Buster Olney
@Buster_ESPN
Source: Pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto expected to be posted Monday. That means the 45-day negotiating window for MLB teams will start Tuesday.
Even sooner. I heard it as Tuesday. Bad reporting.
gotta think that bodes well for Mauricio being on the roster and being the backup SS. DJ Stewart brought back on a 1 year deal.
New York Mets
@Mets
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5m
We have opted not to tender a contract to right-handed pitchers Jeff Brigham, Sam Coonrod and Trevor Gott as well as infielders Luis Guillorme and Daniel Vogelbach.
that's that. presumably 2024 is indeed highly unlikely and now the question is if he takes a 2 year now or waits. not sure he has anything to gain by waiting.
interesting situation for the mets where they can essentially split his cost over 2 years and get a more valuable asset in 2025. obviously risky though.
gotta think that bodes well for Mauricio being on the roster and being the backup SS. DJ Stewart brought back on a 1 year deal.
New York Mets
@Mets
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5m
We have opted not to tender a contract to right-handed pitchers Jeff Brigham, Sam Coonrod and Trevor Gott as well as infielders Luis Guillorme and Daniel Vogelbach.
Guillorme finally played like he looks last year. Him and Vogelblob must have the same nutritionist.
only makes sense as lotto ticket with pretty low salary and mostly incentives.
Aside from the spend factor involved and likely to fill spots, am curious if Stearns goes trade route for some activity. He showed a penchant for being willing to do that. I’m someone who feels a guy like McNeil might not be as long for the team as others.
if 5 players are signed around the minimum, that's $16m per player for 7 players.
counting short, stearns is going to have changed almost exactly 1/3 of the 40 man in 1 offseason.
They have to sign at least two starters. Likely a middle reliever/setup too. I’m more intrigued if there’s a move out there on position guys. I think they have to sign a solid OF for sure. Sure Stearns wants to add a bench/utility man. Sounds like they want to give Baty/Mauricio shots.
if 5 players are signed around the minimum, that's $16m per player for 7 players.
counting short, stearns is going to have changed almost exactly 1/3 of the 40 man in 1 offseason.
They have to sign at least two starters. Likely a middle reliever/setup too. I’m more intrigued if there’s a move out there on position guys. I think they have to sign a solid OF for sure. Sure Stearns wants to add a bench/utility man. Sounds like they want to give Baty/Mauricio shots.
for pos players i think plan A is soto and pretty much anyone other than jett williams is on table.
pads need CF, 1b, SP so mets best offer is probably something like Gilbert (or Acuna), Vientos, whatever SP pads like best, and id include Marte fully paid for since SD can then slot him into LF as a free replacement. if someone beats that offer it's the biggest return for a rental player i can recall. definitely a bigger return than lindor, and id say a bigger return than betts.
betts brough back verdugo, jeter downs, connor wong. verdugo was ranked as a consensus top 50 predebut, which is roughly where gilbert is right now, though he was post-debut and coming off a strong 817 ops season w lad.
if no soto then i think the move is signing 1 of the 20+ homer LF/DH guys on market (gurriel, soler, hernandez, etc). and probably redistributing the $ to signing a better 2nd SP.
unless an extension is baked in and agreed to right away and there’s no way Stearns makes the trade without it. As of now Boras is adamant he’s going to FA.
As for pitchers I can’t devote 30m to Lugo, Robertson, Severino. I’d go or a Lugo reunion but I’m not interested in the other two at those price points.
I don't think that Seth Lugo is going to go back to the Bullpen, after putting so much effort into his Starting role.
I confess to only recently distinguishing between the Verlander Outfielders and Drew "The Gun" Gilbert has the arm for RF. I think he's a keeper.
Ryan Clifford "The Big Red Dog" seems like a Lucas Duda type and he's the tradeable guy between the two players.
“ Sources: The New York Mets are hiring Houston Astros Scouting Director Kris Gross to oversee their amateur scouting. It is believed his title will be VP of Amateur Scouting.
Gross has spent the last 12 years w/Houston, including the last 5 as their scouting director.”
I don't think that Seth Lugo is going to go back to the Bullpen, after putting so much effort into his Starting role.
I confess to only recently distinguishing between the Verlander Outfielders and Drew "The Gun" Gilbert has the arm for RF. I think he's a keeper.
Ryan Clifford "The Big Red Dog" seems like a Lucas Duda type and he's the tradeable guy between the two players.
Lugo has said he views himself as a SP so you’re almost certainly correct
“ Sources: The New York Mets are hiring Houston Astros Scouting Director Kris Gross to oversee their amateur scouting. It is believed his title will be VP of Amateur Scouting.
Gross has spent the last 12 years w/Houston, including the last 5 as their scouting director.”
"Meanwhile, Tanous, a longtime fixture in Mets’ front offices, seems in line for a move into a large advisory role as a lead evaluator, a person familiar with the club’s thinking said."
lugo wanted to start so he could get paid - which he now will
im pretty sure if you give him the most money he'll pitch wherever he needs to pitch. if he's pitching great out of the rotation and you can't shift him to the BP that's a great "problem" to have, but if he's just mediocre it's a great flexibility to know he can shift to pen if say vasil or tidwell is ready for a call up.
the hires today (and the others they made) seem really encouraging. Brewer guy had a good track record of promotions in a good org, same with Astros guy, Green brings a lot of things to table.
with all the open roster spots it's hard to envision this being anything other than a crazy offseason. the open roster spots don't necessarily mean they are going to spend like crazy, but obviously they will spend where they think guys are fits. they have a lot of smart guys in the room. feels reminiscent of the early sandy/depo days of moneyball with money (except this time actually with money).
soto $30m ($41m extension starting next year)
yamamoto $30m
lugo $10m
lopez $10m (or another hard thrower)
robertson $10m
severino $10m (or another 1 year SP)
suter $5m (or another low velocity rp)
(+105m)
trade drew smith for anything (-$2.3m)
lugo starts year as your #3/4 starter but hopefully moves to the BP midseason/down the stretch.
$7m to spend on 6 minimum salary depth players players likely destined for cuse, $300k to spend at the new citi field casino.
What do you think about Chapman over Robertson?
Both past their prime, but Chapman is the type that pitching coaches think they can fix IMO.
i thought Robertson showed a lot of craftiness last year handling different situations well. i think each of the last 2 years he got burned out by bad teams who had him as their highest leverage player (40 innings in both 2023 as met closer and 2022 w/ cubs) when really he should be a 7th/8th inning guy who gets some easy outings and never gets pushed beyond 1 inning. post-trade deadline both years his walks went up by big margins, as did his babip which is probably in part an adjustment to a new team/new positioning. his FIPs didnt change either year pre or post trade.
havent seen as much of chapman recently, but the way id construct the bullpen id be looking for guys with experience in high leverage and with different types of stuff and good walk rates. id want 1 hard thrower, 1 softer thrower with 3 or 4 different pitches, and another guy somewhere in between. I think Robertson is a good in between guy with a lot of high leverage experience and i like some of the other younger hard thrower options better than chapman (like lopez).
unless an extension is baked in and agreed to right away and there’s no way Stearns makes the trade without it. As of now Boras is adamant he’s going to FA.
As for pitchers I can’t devote 30m to Lugo, Robertson, Severino. I’d go or a Lugo reunion but I’m not interested in the other two at those price points.
agree on the extension. i dont think it needs to happen day 1 but it has to be like lindor where you know they are open to it and the 2 sides are in the ballpark. judge got $40m per year. soto on $41 x 13 years is $533m and it pays him through his age 38. the total money on that may exceed what ohtani gets since he's 5 years older. id find it hard to imagine soto turning down anything $500m+.
@Buster_ESPN
Source: Pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto expected to be posted Monday. That means the 45-day negotiating window for MLB teams will start Tuesday.
Even sooner. I heard it as Tuesday. Bad reporting.
@anne__rogers
Source: #Royals have acquired RHP Kyle Wright from the Braves for RHP Jackson Kowar.
Guillorme
Brigham
Gotta
Coonrod
DJ Stewart signed to a 1 year deal.
New York Mets
@Mets
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5m
We have opted not to tender a contract to right-handed pitchers Jeff Brigham, Sam Coonrod and Trevor Gott as well as infielders Luis Guillorme and Daniel Vogelbach.
that's that. presumably 2024 is indeed highly unlikely and now the question is if he takes a 2 year now or waits. not sure he has anything to gain by waiting.
interesting situation for the mets where they can essentially split his cost over 2 years and get a more valuable asset in 2025. obviously risky though.
New York Mets
@Mets
·
5m
We have opted not to tender a contract to right-handed pitchers Jeff Brigham, Sam Coonrod and Trevor Gott as well as infielders Luis Guillorme and Daniel Vogelbach.
Guillorme finally played like he looks last year. Him and Vogelblob must have the same nutritionist.
Mets have tons of open room now.
13. Believe we're at 27.
Should be 14 with Zack Short on the roster that's a waste.
Ks down. BBs up. HRs way up.
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i have the met active roster payroll currently about $110m lower than last year's OD (which then increased with the Gott trade).
13. Believe we're at 27.
Should be 14 with Zack Short on the roster that's a waste.
28. SRF was removed on the website by mistake remains on the 40 man
that's literally almost $10m per slot.
if 5 players are signed around the minimum, that's $16m per player for 7 players.
counting short, stearns is going to have changed almost exactly 1/3 of the 40 man in 1 offseason.
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In comment 16292790 Eric on Li said:
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i have the met active roster payroll currently about $110m lower than last year's OD (which then increased with the Gott trade).
13. Believe we're at 27.
Should be 14 with Zack Short on the roster that's a waste.
28. SRF was removed on the website by mistake remains on the 40 man
That's what I get for using Mets official site.
Aside from the spend factor involved and likely to fill spots, am curious if Stearns goes trade route for some activity. He showed a penchant for being willing to do that. I’m someone who feels a guy like McNeil might not be as long for the team as others.
that's literally almost $10m per slot.
if 5 players are signed around the minimum, that's $16m per player for 7 players.
counting short, stearns is going to have changed almost exactly 1/3 of the 40 man in 1 offseason.
They have to sign at least two starters. Likely a middle reliever/setup too. I’m more intrigued if there’s a move out there on position guys. I think they have to sign a solid OF for sure. Sure Stearns wants to add a bench/utility man. Sounds like they want to give Baty/Mauricio shots.
yamamoto $30m
lugo $10m
lopez $10m (or another hard thrower)
robertson $10m
severino $10m (or another 1 year SP)
suter $5m (or another low velocity rp)
(+105m)
trade drew smith for anything (-$2.3m)
lugo starts year as your #3/4 starter but hopefully moves to the BP midseason/down the stretch.
$7m to spend on 6 minimum salary depth players players likely destined for cuse, $300k to spend at the new citi field casino.
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how's everyone spending it?
that's literally almost $10m per slot.
if 5 players are signed around the minimum, that's $16m per player for 7 players.
counting short, stearns is going to have changed almost exactly 1/3 of the 40 man in 1 offseason.
They have to sign at least two starters. Likely a middle reliever/setup too. I’m more intrigued if there’s a move out there on position guys. I think they have to sign a solid OF for sure. Sure Stearns wants to add a bench/utility man. Sounds like they want to give Baty/Mauricio shots.
for pos players i think plan A is soto and pretty much anyone other than jett williams is on table.
pads need CF, 1b, SP so mets best offer is probably something like Gilbert (or Acuna), Vientos, whatever SP pads like best, and id include Marte fully paid for since SD can then slot him into LF as a free replacement. if someone beats that offer it's the biggest return for a rental player i can recall. definitely a bigger return than lindor, and id say a bigger return than betts.
betts brough back verdugo, jeter downs, connor wong. verdugo was ranked as a consensus top 50 predebut, which is roughly where gilbert is right now, though he was post-debut and coming off a strong 817 ops season w lad.
if no soto then i think the move is signing 1 of the 20+ homer LF/DH guys on market (gurriel, soler, hernandez, etc). and probably redistributing the $ to signing a better 2nd SP.
As for pitchers I can’t devote 30m to Lugo, Robertson, Severino. I’d go or a Lugo reunion but I’m not interested in the other two at those price points.
I confess to only recently distinguishing between the Verlander Outfielders and Drew "The Gun" Gilbert has the arm for RF. I think he's a keeper.
Ryan Clifford "The Big Red Dog" seems like a Lucas Duda type and he's the tradeable guy between the two players.
Gross has spent the last 12 years w/Houston, including the last 5 as their scouting director.”
I confess to only recently distinguishing between the Verlander Outfielders and Drew "The Gun" Gilbert has the arm for RF. I think he's a keeper.
Ryan Clifford "The Big Red Dog" seems like a Lucas Duda type and he's the tradeable guy between the two players.
Lugo has said he views himself as a SP so you’re almost certainly correct
yamamoto $30m
lugo $10m
lopez $10m (or another hard thrower)
robertson $10m
severino $10m (or another 1 year SP)
suter $5m (or another low velocity rp)
(+105m)
trade drew smith for anything (-$2.3m)
lugo starts year as your #3/4 starter but hopefully moves to the BP midseason/down the stretch.
$7m to spend on 6 minimum salary depth players players likely destined for cuse, $300k to spend at the new citi field casino.
Eric doing Lugo dirty lol, the man wants to start ha
I watched DR on Marlins last year, he looks slightly cooked
yamamoto $30m
lugo $10m
lopez $10m (or another hard thrower)
robertson $10m
severino $10m (or another 1 year SP)
suter $5m (or another low velocity rp)
(+105m)
trade drew smith for anything (-$2.3m)
lugo starts year as your #3/4 starter but hopefully moves to the BP midseason/down the stretch.
$7m to spend on 6 minimum salary depth players players likely destined for cuse, $300k to spend at the new citi field casino.
What do you think about Chapman over Robertson?
Both past their prime, but Chapman is the type that pitching coaches think they can fix IMO.
Patrick Sandoval comes off as a SP who needs a fresh start and new coaching to unlock his talent.
I've watched him take over a game from time to time.
Gross has spent the last 12 years w/Houston, including the last 5 as their scouting director.”
Unclear what this means for Tanous at this time.
the hires today (and the others they made) seem really encouraging. Brewer guy had a good track record of promotions in a good org, same with Astros guy, Green brings a lot of things to table.
with all the open roster spots it's hard to envision this being anything other than a crazy offseason. the open roster spots don't necessarily mean they are going to spend like crazy, but obviously they will spend where they think guys are fits. they have a lot of smart guys in the room. feels reminiscent of the early sandy/depo days of moneyball with money (except this time actually with money).
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soto $30m ($41m extension starting next year)
yamamoto $30m
lugo $10m
lopez $10m (or another hard thrower)
robertson $10m
severino $10m (or another 1 year SP)
suter $5m (or another low velocity rp)
(+105m)
trade drew smith for anything (-$2.3m)
lugo starts year as your #3/4 starter but hopefully moves to the BP midseason/down the stretch.
$7m to spend on 6 minimum salary depth players players likely destined for cuse, $300k to spend at the new citi field casino.
What do you think about Chapman over Robertson?
Both past their prime, but Chapman is the type that pitching coaches think they can fix IMO.
i thought Robertson showed a lot of craftiness last year handling different situations well. i think each of the last 2 years he got burned out by bad teams who had him as their highest leverage player (40 innings in both 2023 as met closer and 2022 w/ cubs) when really he should be a 7th/8th inning guy who gets some easy outings and never gets pushed beyond 1 inning. post-trade deadline both years his walks went up by big margins, as did his babip which is probably in part an adjustment to a new team/new positioning. his FIPs didnt change either year pre or post trade.
havent seen as much of chapman recently, but the way id construct the bullpen id be looking for guys with experience in high leverage and with different types of stuff and good walk rates. id want 1 hard thrower, 1 softer thrower with 3 or 4 different pitches, and another guy somewhere in between. I think Robertson is a good in between guy with a lot of high leverage experience and i like some of the other younger hard thrower options better than chapman (like lopez).
As for pitchers I can’t devote 30m to Lugo, Robertson, Severino. I’d go or a Lugo reunion but I’m not interested in the other two at those price points.
agree on the extension. i dont think it needs to happen day 1 but it has to be like lindor where you know they are open to it and the 2 sides are in the ballpark. judge got $40m per year. soto on $41 x 13 years is $533m and it pays him through his age 38. the total money on that may exceed what ohtani gets since he's 5 years older. id find it hard to imagine soto turning down anything $500m+.
-Both Nightengale and Rosenthal have pieces today suggesting the Braves are likely working on something “big”
-Both Nightengale and Rosenthal have pieces today suggesting the Braves are likely working on something “big”
Braves need a reliable veteran SP to frontline their rotation. Burnes would be scary there.
Interesting.
*Yamamoto not Ohtani