The Giants are so good at losing when they are trying to win… If they can’t lose when they should be trying to lose, the Mara’s are even more inept than my worst nightmares.
I agree with what MookGiants said in
this thread
I would take any of the 3 QB's over any QB drafted in the last 15 years besides Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Andrew Luck and Cam Newton coming out of college without even thinking about it. |
Knifed by someone close to me sounds like a good time compared to year 6 of Daniel Jones and missing out on Williams, Maye and Daniels.
The Giants are bullies, but only in the sense that they enjoy beating losers.
John, don’t let your love of moral victories ruin another 10 years for us.
Love,
Any fan that doesn’t have some weird Daniel Jones Stockholm situation going on.
John Mara will not tank. You see all the hoops the guy in Miami did to tank, trust me Mara will not stand for that. And we will draft like 5 or 6 and out of the QB sweepstakes. It is just who Mara is.
But I absolutely do NOT want a single person associated with the Giants, be he owner, player or coach, to TRY to lose any game, EVER!
But I absolutely do NOT want a single person associated with the Giants, be he owner, player or coach, to TRY to lose any game, EVER!
Really, why is tanking so bad if you have a long-term goal of improvement. If they dont want us to tank, make the draft a lottery.
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so that they'll be in position to take Williams or Maye...
But I absolutely do NOT want a single person associated with the Giants, be he owner, player or coach, to TRY to lose any game, EVER!
Really, why is tanking so bad if you have a long-term goal of improvement. If they dont want us to tank, make the draft a lottery.
The issue with a team openly tanking is that the NFL will sanction them for it by removing draft picks.
It's called Nate Sudfeld-ing
One of the narratives pushed by the commentators during the last game and Daboll was that they were evaluating DeVito and "liked some things they saw."
That might be a bunch of bs, but real tell will be when/if Taylor is brought back.
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so that they'll be in position to take Williams or Maye...
But I absolutely do NOT want a single person associated with the Giants, be he owner, player or coach, to TRY to lose any game, EVER!
Really, why is tanking so bad if you have a long-term goal of improvement. If they dont want us to tank, make the draft a lottery.
The issue with a team openly tanking is that the NFL will sanction them for it by removing draft picks.
Brilliant! Who else do they have to start? Of course DeVito starts until TT returns(kind of hope he stays on IR)
And yes, it is worth a look see to what DeVito can do and if he can be a backup.
The Giants can beat the Washington again and the Pats. Spuld not be shocked if they play the Packers tough and in the cold against the Rams who knows.
Joe Schoen was so preoccupied (thanks to the interference of John Mara and Mara's advisor Dave Gettleman), that all of the post season attention was spent on the Daniel Jones debate. Daboll and Schoen were ready to allow Jones become a FA, yet Mara/Gettleman insisted that the "organisation" should make him their "franchise QB". Unfortunately for the Giants fans, Mara won the argument and now we're stuck with a sub-par QB that the opposing defences easily read. I read a transcript from one of the defensive players for the Seahawks said that they noticed Daniel Jones stares at his projected target before each snap. To think that information like that wasn't released around the league would be wrong, every team knows how to play against DJ. I feel bad for DJ because he's a good person, but his abilities are tremendously limited.
Mara/Gettleman see Jones as an Eli Manning clone, but they're wrong about that too. Eli was a tremendous QB, who was crippled in his final seasons by the stupidity of the front office and their lack of ability to acquire OL personnel who would benefit Eli. So the stupidity within this organisation isn't anything new, but their inability to progress has been stunted by the same person, John Mara.
R we watching the same team? We will have Devito for commanders and Patriots. Rams will have Stafford, Packers are not an awful team and Aaron Jones will be fully healthy most likely (their best offensive player) they will run us out of the stadium, Saints even with Winston are much better, and 2x vs the Eagles. How in the world do u see 2 wins with how injury riddled we are especially?
John Mara will not tank. You see all the hoops the guy in Miami did to tank, trust me Mara will not stand for that. And we will draft like 5 or 6 and out of the QB sweepstakes. It is just who Mara is.
For all the anger about losing, I think people still dont understand how bad this team is.
They've lost both games since getting back Andrew Thomas. There's no bigger addition to the team back from injury. They are still ungodly awful.
There's no 'Press 'x' to win some meaningless games to build a culture'.
I prefer JD to Maye and Caleb, but I agree. If they don't get one of the top 3, I will really take a step back. Ofc I will always be a fan, but I'm not a masochist.
John Mara will not tank. You see all the hoops the guy in Miami did to tank, trust me Mara will not stand for that. And we will draft like 5 or 6 and out of the QB sweepstakes. It is just who Mara is.
lol tank?? This team sucks balls, is anyone really thinking they win another game? I sure don't.
What is the difference if we win 2, 4 or 5 games this year? We've been embarrassed by every good team we've played. Every game that remotely matters. This season is lost.
You don't get it. The idea that players would leave this season proud of themselves is already toast, Tim. Don't mess up future seasons because you think you've done a better job this season if you sneak up on a few bad teams or even a mediocre one.
I watched the Giants suck through the 60’s and 70’s and one thing I’m convinced of, teams can get losing so ingrained into its fabric they forget how to win, and it can go years of repeat cycles. I’m not saying that sometimes with that ultra high pick teams don’t catch lightning in a bottle and turn around the entire organization, we did with LT. I’m just saying that it’s far from any sort of guarantee, and losing badly can be contagious. I prefer winning, and a higher draft position just a consolation prize not a goal.
The bigger favor to Hyatt would be to get him a real QB and we should be doing everything possible to do that.
Absolutely correct. Anyone that would ask their team and coaches to take is a loser of the worst kind.
Have we built a culture at least? No. What was the valor in losing the right way? Hell, they actually won last year. How is it helping them get through the tough times now?
People love to lean on tropes but where's the result?
I honestly don’t see how we win any more games. This team is terrible,
has too many injuries, and the players have mostly checked out. If the players packed up their lockers, tore up their remaining game checks and the team forfeited all remaining games, the team would be only slightly less competitive that it is now.