NFL offensive coach says the Giants will love Drake Maye

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In comment 16289878 Greg from LI said:

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Haha. I don’t see anything similar in their games, personality is the only trait I’d want him to share any wise.

their personalities.

This one is his call, he's not going to be looking for those traits. How about a guy that can fucking win football games despite his demeanor

In comment 16289878 Greg from LI said:

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I'm fine with the comparisons to Jones WRT attitude, prep, etc. It's on-field comparisons that would scare me away

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but to me, he reminds me more of Josh Allen. That is where I can see Schoen and Daboll really liking him.

In comment 16289886 cjac said:

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This one is his call, he's not going to be looking for those traits. How about a guy that can fucking win football games despite his demeanor

it's going to take two years to find out whether or not he can win games.

In comment 16289907 Section331 said:

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but to me, he reminds me more of Josh Allen. That is where I can see Schoen and Daboll really liking him.

I see some traits of both, really a hybrid of the two in some ways.

In comment 16289890 ThomasG said:

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Where are you getting this?

In comment 16289890 ThomasG said:

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Kafka should be more worried about the Giants moving on from him

Thing is, what seemed to endear Jones so much to the Giants was the comparisons to Eli's demeanor and personality.

I want them to pick the best quarterback, not the QB that most reminds them of Eli or, god help us all, Daniel Jones.

thanks in advance.

Giants will want Williams if I had to bet. He's the slam dunk #1 QB.

Williams probably has a somewhat higher ceiling, but also a lower floor. Maye's throws are effortless. I get the Herbert/Allen comparisons, but his throwing motion actually reminds me a little of Phillip Rivers. It's a little off to the side. It's not quite completely overhead. The way he flicks the ball with his wrist on many throws also reminds me of Dan Marino.

In comment 16289884 robbieballs2003 said:

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their personalities.

You're cheating you took time to read it ...

He has an accurate cannon for an arm and clearly the offense reacts well to him. He has some "adult" WR's who are quiet in the huddle and loud with their athleticism making catches, YACS and extending series'.

I think Maye would be a perfect fit for the Giants IMHO.

But there is a lot of time until the draft and things will happen no doubt.

Call me loco, but I want the best QB. Not a dude who is polite, calls John ‘Mr. Mara’, & looks/acts like a dude you’d want your daughter to bring home. Now I don’t want a nut job or problem child either obviously.

And I like Maye. But enough of this ‘personality’ BS.

the constant comparisons to Eli and now Jones.....

Geez find the best QB in this draft.

...of sudden movement in his game, so it’s interesting to see if there’s a little more quick twitch you can get out of him that Herbert has"

It will be interesting to see if other scouts and Sy speak on this as well and what it means for his projection. If it's about his running ability then I don't really care, but if its referring to a slow release...

maybe i missed it. but has Sy said which qbs he likes so far the best?

This 'offensive coach' is the one saying the Giants will like Maye because of his personality (and game as well) not the Giants. And by the coach saying 'The Giants' they must mean ownership, because obviously Schoen and Daboll weren't here when Eli or Jones was drafted. I don't see any issue with a random offensive coach saying the Giants like Maye's personality. If the Giants want a player with plus physical skills, and a good personality then great.

In comment 16289907 Section331 said:

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but to me, he reminds me more of Josh Allen. That is where I can see Schoen and Daboll really liking him.

Agreed. The Herbert comp is daft. Herbert's distinguishing feature is his brilliant arm talent. Maye doesn't have that gift.

Maye has a very good arm - better than Jones's - and he is a deceptive mover. Very smooth. The best comp, to me, is Burrow.

In comment 16289953 lpdcan28 said:

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maybe i missed it. but has Sy said which qbs he likes so far the best?

Williams, Daniels, Maye.

view the Giants having a prototype for QB, btw.

And they are spot on.

Both Eli and DJ are quiet and humble and they always seem to say the right thing. But that’s not the only trait I’m seeing in Giants QBs.

Since the first part of the 1998 season, not counting cameo starts by backup QBs Palmer, Smith, Glennon, Fromm, Taylor and now DeVito…ALL the Giants starting QBs were 6’ 5”.

This list includes not only DJ, Eli and Collins, but also Kent Graham, who started the last 6 games of ’98 and the first 9 games ’99.

Drake Maye is 6’ 4”. Caleb Williams is listed at 6’ 1”.

You HAVE TO take him.

well there's a comparison to Jones all right.

I’ve actually thought the same exact thing but have been afraid to make that comp (Marino). The way he throws some of his deep balls really reminded me the same. He puts the ball on a rope, with excellent anticipation, timing and ball placement. Can’t wait to see how he does in the NFL.

In comment 16290021 bw in dc said:

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In comment 16289953 lpdcan28 said: Quote: maybe i missed it. but has Sy said which qbs he likes so far the best? Williams, Daniels, Maye.

Slightly off, he has Wiliams, Maye and Daniels, 2, 3 and 19 respectively in his top 96.
Sy's top 96 - ( New Window )

And Johnson’s coaching the kid will be in traction by mid September.

Very mechanical but with a better arm.

I lean to Jayden Daniels right now. He would be exciting to watch.

In comment 16289932 Greg from LI said:

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Thing is, what seemed to endear Jones so much to the Giants was the comparisons to Eli's demeanor and personality. I want them to pick the best quarterback, not the QB that most reminds them of Eli or, god help us all, Daniel Jones.

Maybe it's a way to "sell" the pick to Mara? *grin*

Not puppy dog personality, please.

In comment 16290141 bigblue5611 said:

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In comment 16290021 bw in dc said: Quote: In comment 16289953 lpdcan28 said: Quote: maybe i missed it. but has Sy said which qbs he likes so far the best? Williams, Daniels, Maye. Slightly off, he has Wiliams, Maye and Daniels, 2, 3 and 19 respectively in his top 96. Sy's top 96 - ( New Window )

BW was giving his ranking not SY's.

Jones has been a bad passer going back to his college days. I'd take any of these top prospects over Jones coming out of college.

In comment 16290186 jvm52106 said:

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BW was giving his ranking not SY's.

Wasn't he answering the question of asking where Sy had his rankings?

In comment 16289953 lpdcan28 said:

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maybe i missed it. but has Sy said which qbs he likes so far the best?

Sy rated Marvin Harrison, Jr. #1 pick in the draft on 11/6. Caleb Williams is #2. Drake Maye is #3. Sy's commentaries are included. FWIW

2) Caleb Williams – QB/USC
2023 has not been the smooth ride many were expecting and part of that does fall on the quarterback. But the truth is, there is not a player I want on the field more than him down four with two minutes left.


3) Drake Maye – QB/North Carolina
As was the case last season, Maye is the best pure thrower and most consistent passer in this class. The gap between him and Caleb is miniscule, and any team will be lucky to get either.

19) Jayden Daniels – QB/LSU
An ascending player that can threaten a defense in countless ways. Lightning-fast release, lightning-fast burst as a runner.

Cause of the Notre Dame game

as a passer that can 1) read the defense 2) find secondary receivers and 3) deliver balls to receivers that aren't wide open all the time. Those are things the average fan watching games on TV isn't going to be able to provide much insight into so I want to hear it from people that break down tape.

The running ability is a nice to have, but it's his passing that will determine his ceiling and long term success.

There's only one Lamar Jackson and he still misses games to injury and has questions about his ceiling as a passer when it comes to playoff defenses. These guys that need to run beyond the line of scrimmage in order to be effective are future injuries waiting to happen. Richardson broke down earlier than anyone expected.

they are going against their “type of QB”
Historically (and Schoen and Daboll have said) they like big, physical QBs. Maye is 6-4 and 230. He fits the profile.
Williams would have to wow them to the point where they go away from their type. This season is NOT playing out that way.

But more importantly, I want the guy who processes the field quickly and correctly and gets the ball out quickly. That is the name of the game in the NFL now. Guys like brock Purdy are having success by making quick reads and releasing the ball before any pass rush threatens. Short and intermediate passes can be a great formula for winning games.

In comment 16290029 bw in dc said:

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view the Giants having a prototype for QB, btw. And they are spot on.

I don't know that you can overlay what previous regimes looked for to this one. Yes, prior GMs seemed to want a certain "type." We have no idea what Schoen and Daboll want. The key question is whether Daboll really wants a QB who can run or whether he did it so much with Jones because that was one of his best qualities. Clearly, if he wants a running QB, Daniels is the way to go.

Saturday made it basically seem he has Williams/Maye/Daniels in a dead heat.

In comment 16289943 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Call me loco, but I want the best QB. Not a dude who is polite, calls John ‘Mr. Mara’, & looks/acts like a dude you’d want your daughter to bring home. Now I don’t want a nut job or problem child either obviously. And I like Maye. But enough of this ‘personality’ BS.

But we know what Mara would want. It's probably not Caleb Williams.

Talks about his explosive release and arm strength
Compares him to Justin Hebert

In comment 16290604 Now Mike in MD said:

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In comment 16290029 bw in dc said: Quote: view the Giants having a prototype for QB, btw. And they are spot on. I don't know that you can overlay what previous regimes looked for to this one. Yes, prior GMs seemed to want a certain "type." We have no idea what Schoen and Daboll want. The key question is whether Daboll really wants a QB who can run or whether he did it so much with Jones because that was one of his best qualities. Clearly, if he wants a running QB, Daniels is the way to go.

I agree we don't know what Schoen and Daboll prefer in a QB skill set wise.

But I don't think I am out on a limb here that Mara wants a specific personality type to represent the NYG brand.

And those interests may collide at some point.

In comment 16289949 widmerseyebrow said:

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...of sudden movement in his game, so it’s interesting to see if there’s a little more quick twitch you can get out of him that Herbert has" It will be interesting to see if other scouts and Sy speak on this as well and what it means for his projection. If it's about his running ability then I don't really care, but if its referring to a slow release...

Lack of quick twitch, caught my eye because I was expecting to see more of that when I ve watched him play

It s becoming evident that the absolute certainty with which these quarterbacks are drooled over here, is being motivated by the Giants needing a young quarterback, and should be tempered a bit, the drooling part that is.

nonsense. He's a QB not a politician.