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Route 9 : 11/15/2023 11:18 am
No Patrick Kane. Hey that's something? Next game is in 1,000 days. Better than discussing the garbage Giants. Devils on Saturday night. I am still angry about last year's exit.
Rangers look good so far  
bluesince56 : 11/15/2023 11:21 am : link
Seems that Laffy has found his game. All this without Fox,Igor and others
What’s this I’m hearing about Brennan Othmann  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/15/2023 11:21 am : link
getting a call up relatively soon?
Hopefully the long gap doesn't affect our momentum  
Anakim : 11/15/2023 11:21 am : link
Whoever created our schedule was drunk. I'm convinced of it.
RE: What’s this I’m hearing about Brennan Othmann  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/15/2023 11:25 am : link
In comment 16290023 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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getting a call up relatively soon?


I would be shocked if he was. Just fans wanting to throw him up on the line before he's ready because they think Wheeler is a sled out there.

Hey, Brett.  
Route 9 : 11/15/2023 11:36 am : link
I hope you are doing well!
Quick has been a difference maker  
larryflower37 : 11/15/2023 11:39 am : link
This year, Halak drove me crazy last year.
The line combination have been working Laviolette seems to have it all together.
I think Gus has been  
Will Shine : 11/15/2023 11:46 am : link
steal of the year.

Apparently, Jones has looked good when he is out there.

Schneider is quietly producing a quality year. I think our D is looking quite solid.

As well, so far one can argue:

1. Preseason means diddly-squat

2. Coaching matters
At least Wheeler is producing...somewhat  
Anakim : 11/15/2023 11:47 am : link
Kakko is a complete hole on offense.



And Zibanejad has been pretty poor in 5v5. But I'm nitpicking. We're second in the fucking conference...
RE: At least Wheeler is producing...somewhat  
Route 9 : 11/15/2023 11:58 am : link
In comment 16290077 Anakim said:
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Kakko is a complete hole on offense.



And Zibanejad has been pretty poor in 5v5. But I'm nitpicking. We're second in the fucking conference...


You should come to the Philly game
RE: RE: At least Wheeler is producing...somewhat  
Anakim : 11/15/2023 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16290095 Route 9 said:
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In comment 16290077 Anakim said:


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Kakko is a complete hole on offense.



And Zibanejad has been pretty poor in 5v5. But I'm nitpicking. We're second in the fucking conference...



You should come to the Philly game


Why's that?
The fact the Rangers are doing well without much from top line  
George from PA : 11/15/2023 12:14 pm : link
And with current injuries is a great sign.

You know the 1st line will eventually start ticking....Fox & Co will be back (I hope)...

If Laf stays hot....it will be a nice year
IDK  
Route 9 : 11/15/2023 12:26 pm : link
Load up the arena with more Rangers fans
RE: What’s this I’m hearing about Brennan Othmann  
BC Eagles94 : 11/15/2023 12:28 pm : link
In comment 16290023 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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getting a call up relatively soon?


Not happening.

1. He isn't dominating in AHL yet, so they are not rushing him. He has 2 goals in 12 games.

2. There is nowhere in the top 9 for him on a wing. We have two wings that are not producing in top 9. Kakko and Wheeler. Kakko is not going anywhere. And they are going to keep trying to get Wheeler going for now. Wheeler was a point per game player for 7 years leading up to last season, and even last season he still had 55 points. If he is healthy there is still enough in there for him to be a top 9 contributor.
RE: IDK  
Anakim : 11/15/2023 12:39 pm : link
In comment 16290126 Route 9 said:
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Load up the arena with more Rangers fans


Philly is usually loaded with Rangers fans. Actually, most arenas are.
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Route 9 : 11/15/2023 12:44 pm : link
Right so we can have more
RE: At least Wheeler is producing...somewhat  
Gman11 : 11/15/2023 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16290077 Anakim said:
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Kakko is a complete hole on offense.


Wheeler has 1 goal and 2 assists in 14 games. Playing in the top 6 that is not producing, even somewhat. That is what you'd expect from someone like Pitlick.

Let's face it, Kakko is a bust. He's been in the league long enough where he should be showing improvement and he isn't. It looks like he competes, but he just doesn't get any results. I can see him getting traded at the deadline.
I am very impressed  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2023 2:16 pm : link
with Jones when he has the puck in the o-zone. I did not remember him being so deceptive and skilled with the puck. Looks like a PP QB. So smooth and confident.

however, defensively he is beyond a liability IMO. he looks small, not physical enough, and not positionally sound.

He can improve all that and the skills he does have aren't easily taught, but I think right now he's an AHL D or he needs to play sheltered minutes.

I'm also not as impressed with Schneider as some of you. He is a 1st round pick. He should be further along by now in his development. He seems to have the tools, but lacks the IQ/decision making and that's not a good sign. He makes some of the most boneheaded pinches I have seen. and seems to get crossed up on switches in the D-zone. Also correctable but not usually while you're playing top 6 minutes. What is frustrating is he goes through really good stretches and then some bad ones, maybe consistency is an issue because sometimes we (me) forget he's 22 years old.

While Fox is out that 3rd pair is a train wreck though IMO.

I think the Rangers need to look at Zadorov or Hanifin if an opportunity presents itself.



RE: RE: At least Wheeler is producing...somewhat  
Anakim : 11/15/2023 2:20 pm : link
In comment 16290180 Gman11 said:
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In comment 16290077 Anakim said:


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Kakko is a complete hole on offense.



Wheeler has 1 goal and 2 assists in 14 games. Playing in the top 6 that is not producing, even somewhat. That is what you'd expect from someone like Pitlick.

Let's face it, Kakko is a bust. He's been in the league long enough where he should be showing improvement and he isn't. It looks like he competes, but he just doesn't get any results. I can see him getting traded at the deadline.


Yes, but at least Wheeler has gotten it going as of late...somewhat. He was a net zero for a good part of the year up until recently.

Kakko is simply a third-line defense-first F. That's who he is and probably who he will always be.
RE: I am very impressed  
Anakim : 11/15/2023 2:21 pm : link
In comment 16290303 pjcas18 said:
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I think the Rangers need to look at Zadorov or Hanifin if an opportunity presents itself.





Who would either of them replace? Schneider?
Wheeler/Kakko  
ShockNRoll : 11/15/2023 2:25 pm : link
I still don't know what to make of Kakko. It's obviously been a very disappointing start to the season for him, but are we really resigning the fact to him being a bust? I'm not sure it's fair to do that, but at the same time, he's in his 5th year and his offensive production is at an all time low right now. He's still only 22 years old, plays solid defensively, but he does look like a glorified 4th liner right now.

Wheeler has showed signs of life and has points in 3 of his past 4 games now. I think he's going to be a plus player for us going forward. I don't think the Rangers should go big game hunting for a RW, personally. I think a few bottom 6/depth forwards, maybe a 7D should be their targets. If they did want to go get a top 6 RW, a Tarasenko reunion could be possible, or a reunion with Anthony Duclair from San Jose. He scored 31 goals two years ago and is on the last year of a 3 year contract.
RE: RE: I am very impressed  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2023 2:29 pm : link
In comment 16290307 Anakim said:
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In comment 16290303 pjcas18 said:


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I think the Rangers need to look at Zadorov or Hanifin if an opportunity presents itself.







Who would either of them replace? Schneider?


Hanifin would.

But they're not giving him away. he turned down a $6M per year long-term extension in September (smartly IMO).

little known tidbit if the Rangers do get Hanifin...Hanifin and Fox were trade for each other in the deal that sent Hanifin and Lindholm from Carolina to Calgary for Hamilton.
Kaako has been disappointing this year  
ciggy : 11/15/2023 2:42 pm : link
But I do not believe it is fair to call him a bust. He has shown flashes in prior years. I remember his production with kid line in 2022 playoffs.

Be patient. People were callin Laf a bust and he looks great right now.



I agree with pj about Schneider  
Greg from LI : 11/15/2023 2:44 pm : link
He has ability but he is still prone to making really bad decisions. He did OK with Gustafsson but he and Jones are not a good pairing.
Hello Route 9.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/15/2023 2:47 pm : link
Hope you're doing well too!

Want to see Kakko get going--I think he should be on the PK. He has a really good defensive player. I'd have liked to give him a few more games on line one.

Agreed on Schneider... He hasn't really progressed beyond "promising". He's fine as your 6th dman, I guess.

Jones is not very good, either.
Schneider with Gusty  
Gman11 : 11/15/2023 6:59 pm : link
is pretty good for your 3rd pairing. Jones? Eh, not enough defense. Whatever happened to Robertson? He was supposed to be a good prospect.

BTW, Gusty is the best free agent signing they've made in quite a while. Why this guy has bounced around the league I don't know.
Sounds like Chytil may be out for a while with the concussion  
Anakim : 11/17/2023 9:17 am : link
I just hope it isn't a Sauer-like situation
Several comments  
Rick in Dallas : 11/17/2023 9:33 am : link
Not ready to declare Kakko a bust.
I expect to see Othmann beginning of the new year to replace Wheeler.
Jones is a solid number 7 playing with more confidence.
What a revelation Quick has been as our number 2 goalie. He has been awesome. MVP behind Panarin.
Gustafson and Bonino have been solid additions.
Need to see more production from number 1 line on 5v5 play.

Finally, any injury news on Fox and Chytil?
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Route 9 : 11/17/2023 10:13 am : link
Isn't Fox diving into the bagel industry?
RE: Several comments  
Anakim : 11/17/2023 10:15 am : link
In comment 16292023 Rick in Dallas said:
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Not ready to declare Kakko a bust.
I expect to see Othmann beginning of the new year to replace Wheeler.
Jones is a solid number 7 playing with more confidence.
What a revelation Quick has been as our number 2 goalie. He has been awesome. MVP behind Panarin.
Gustafson and Bonino have been solid additions.
Need to see more production from number 1 line on 5v5 play.

Finally, any injury news on Fox and Chytil?


Doesn't sound good with Chytil
if Chytil is moved to LTIR  
bigbluehoya : 11/17/2023 10:26 am : link
(and I'll be the first to say that I'm awful with NHL salary cap stuff particularly as it concerns the LTIR impacts), I really think they should make a hard push sooner than later at Elias Lindholm.

Calgary sucks, he's on the last year of his deal, and I believe he's made it clear he won't re-sign there.

With the way the team is playing, it would be very easy to justify leaning in via moving a valuable prospect/pick or two.
to add  
bigbluehoya : 11/17/2023 10:28 am : link
I hope that any cap slack that would come from an unfortunate Chytil LTIR wouldn't be the justification to bring Kane back into the crosshairs.

I haven't been staunchly against Kane in general, but to me that would strictly be a separate evaluation and dependent on Kane really wanted to be here and taking a sweetheart, short term deal.

If Chytil is LTIR'd, priority 1A becomes a C.
Really starting to get worried about Chytil  
Greg from LI : 11/17/2023 4:23 pm : link
I've read that this is at least his fourth concussion as a pro, and he seems to be making no progress towards coming back. At this point you have to start wondering if this doesn't just affect his season but maybe ends his career.
Kakko is such a black hole on offense  
Anakim : 11/18/2023 8:17 pm : link
Aside from puck possession, there is no offensive skill to his game
LOL  
Anakim : 11/18/2023 8:25 pm : link
All you can do is laugh. The Rangers really never get any calls in their favor. I mean it's actually hilarious. Toronto has had it out for us since the letter.
Having to listen to the  
Stufftherun : 11/18/2023 8:35 pm : link
Devils broadcast team is incredibly excruciating!

What’s the point of having anyone in the booth with the babbling Daneyko who goes on and on?!

That and the female host trying way too hard during the pre/post game and intermission who sounds like she’s just finished snorting an 8-ball!

Shadup and take a breath for the love of God!
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