Manning said the Giants need to keep building around the 26-year-old, who tore his right ACL on Nov. 5 against the Raiders.
“They saw Daniel Jones, they were around him. They had him for a year and they trusted that, ‘Hey, this is a kid that has a bunch of upside,'” Manning told Andrew Marchand and John Ourand of the new Giants regime that started in 2022. “He’s still in the first year of the offense, played extremely well. He can run, he’s tough. He can make the throws. Just unfortunately, this was a tough year with injuries. … And so, I think you still got to trust your quarterback.
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Not surprised by the reaction. When you read something about Jones, from the guy who played the position, that you don’t agree with, blame it on Johnny Boy
Very disrespectful to Eli by the way to suggest what you are suggesting
What should the reaction be?
Why should we trust Eli's opinion? John Elway was one of the greatest QBs I've ever seen and he was a horrible evaluator of the position as Denver's GM...
“He’s going to come back, he’s going to be healthy. He works hard. He’s a great teammate. He does all the intangible things really, really well, and I think they got to trust him, can put some guys, get help around them and continue to grow with these teams. I think when you sign your key guys to contracts, Saquon [Barkley], Dexter Lawrence, Daniel … you put these guys, you keep adding guys around them and you don’t just say, hey, switch it up right away because you have one bad year.”
What I find funny is so many of these people who are questioning Eli's take on Jones hang onto every word Sy types in criticism of Jones. Which one knows the game of football, and especially quarterback play, better?
Your first mission: tell everyone how right I am. Always.
The season has shown that, Jones or not, this entire football team is lost again. Unfortunately, the problems go much, much deeper than Jones.
What we know now is, the Giants are the worst team in the NFL around DJ. Again. And this is coming from somebody who's fine moving on, as I think he's David Carr'd.
When's Schwartz and Dottino up?
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I don't think Eli is a shill... I think he believes this.
“He’s going to come back, he’s going to be healthy. He works hard. He’s a great teammate. He does all the intangible things really, really well, and I think they got to trust him, can put some guys, get help around them and continue to grow with these teams. I think when you sign your key guys to contracts, Saquon [Barkley], Dexter Lawrence, Daniel … you put these guys, you keep adding guys around them and you don’t just say, hey, switch it up right away because you have one bad year.”
What I find funny is so many of these people who are questioning Eli's take on Jones hang onto every word Sy types in criticism of Jones. Which one knows the game of football, and especially quarterback play, better?
This is precious. Eli and Jones are friends you nitwit. What do you expect him to say? At least Sy is breaking down the games, play by play. I’ll take Sy’s opinion over Eli’s. I love Eli but he isn’t breaking down film like others do. He’s sticking up for his buddy.
You guys acting like it’s all settled now, Eli praised him so we are good and Jones is the perfect man for the job are hysterical. But Eli said so!!!!
If it's April 26th and we are discussing Marvin Harrison Jr, that's a different story. I know the Giants don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, but I trust Schoen & Daboll to understand the opportunity they have here to draft a franchise altering QB.
KID? He's not a kid, he's what, 26, 27 years old. And I may trust Schoen & Daboll to understand the opportunity, but I don't trust John Mara and his man-love for Eli, the Mannings, and their adopted son, Daniel Jones. If I had to bet money, I would NOT bet against them going a different direction, not drafting a QB and giving Jones "more weapons" (as if THAT's suddenly going to make him turn into a terrific QB). I have zero faith in Mara not influencing this high pick.
This
That’s the only praise we ever hear. Hard worker. Great teammate, blah, blah blah. We never hear coaches or players gushing about his ability to scan the field or his presence in the pocket or his ability to throw guys open. Just…hard worker…
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This is also some of the most bland praise I've ever read. He's a hard worker, has the intangibles, etc.
That’s the only praise we ever hear. Hard worker. Great teammate, blah, blah blah. We never hear coaches or players gushing about his ability to scan the field or his presence in the pocket or his ability to throw guys open. Just…hard worker…
Yes. Mahomes and Burrow work hard. Folks don't need to repeat it non-stop for them.
Add to the fact that when you pick top 2 in a talented QB draft your team will hopefully not be in this situation very often.
The QB position is so important to succeed in the NFL, you need to have talent and depth.
Schoen will be taking a QB IMO.
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I don't think Eli is a shill... I think he believes this.
“He’s going to come back, he’s going to be healthy. He works hard. He’s a great teammate. He does all the intangible things really, really well, and I think they got to trust him, can put some guys, get help around them and continue to grow with these teams. I think when you sign your key guys to contracts, Saquon [Barkley], Dexter Lawrence, Daniel … you put these guys, you keep adding guys around them and you don’t just say, hey, switch it up right away because you have one bad year.”
What I find funny is so many of these people who are questioning Eli's take on Jones hang onto every word Sy types in criticism of Jones. Which one knows the game of football, and especially quarterback play, better?
This is precious. Eli and Jones are friends you nitwit. What do you expect him to say? At least Sy is breaking down the games, play by play. I’ll take Sy’s opinion over Eli’s. I love Eli but he isn’t breaking down film like others do. He’s sticking up for his buddy.
You guys acting like it’s all settled now, Eli praised him so we are good and Jones is the perfect man for the job are hysterical. But Eli said so!!!!
When it comes to QB play - I'd take Eli. 16 year pro. Two time SB MVP, son and brother of NFL QBs. You don't think in his 20 years as college and pro QB he ever brokedown video/film? He does it each week on his alt MNF broadcast.
I think both Sy and Eli can breakdown QB play. They may disagree, but they can talk on equal terms unlike usins here on BBI! Another thing, Eli and Peyton see things as the happen while doing the broadcast. You sometimes hear them predict the play and outcome before the snap.
Is there a better example of someone “so far behind in the race they actually think they’re ahead” than you?
I mean you’ve come out of self exile to take a bunch of victory laps when you’ve already been proven wrong and yet here you are again with the same old boring routine.
Disagree. You MUST react like a full on conspiracy hysteric. It's the only way to go.
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CIP, UConn and Toth with good posts.
Disagree. You MUST react like a full on conspiracy hysteric. It's the only way to go.
It certainly creates entertaining conversations. But, I’m also easily amused, so…
That's a fact. It's been borne out over five years - a larger sample size than he's earned.
So either the Giants are trying to sell a fabrication (Daniel Jones is a good quarterback) or they are all honestly clueless.
Either way, not good.
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I don't think Eli is a shill... I think he believes this.
“He’s going to come back, he’s going to be healthy. He works hard. He’s a great teammate. He does all the intangible things really, really well, and I think they got to trust him, can put some guys, get help around them and continue to grow with these teams. I think when you sign your key guys to contracts, Saquon [Barkley], Dexter Lawrence, Daniel … you put these guys, you keep adding guys around them and you don’t just say, hey, switch it up right away because you have one bad year.”
What I find funny is so many of these people who are questioning Eli's take on Jones hang onto every word Sy types in criticism of Jones. Which one knows the game of football, and especially quarterback play, better?
This is precious. Eli and Jones are friends you nitwit. What do you expect him to say? At least Sy is breaking down the games, play by play. I’ll take Sy’s opinion over Eli’s. I love Eli but he isn’t breaking down film like others do. He’s sticking up for his buddy.
You guys acting like it’s all settled now, Eli praised him so we are good and Jones is the perfect man for the job are hysterical. But Eli said so!!!!
When it comes to QB play - I'd take Eli. 16 year pro. Two time SB MVP, son and brother of NFL QBs. You don't think in his 20 years as college and pro QB he ever brokedown video/film? He does it each week on his alt MNF broadcast.
I think both Sy and Eli can breakdown QB play. They may disagree, but they can talk on equal terms unlike usins here on BBI! Another thing, Eli and Peyton see things as the happen while doing the broadcast. You sometimes hear them predict the play and outcome before the snap.
I completely agree with you about Eli and his qualifications but it only makes sense if you think this is his honest assessment and an assessment he is making with doing all the due diligence of a coach.. in this case he is just doing what a good team mate says.. Eli is a huge Giants fan and he has a bond with Daniel Jones.. This isn't a full blown assessment of Daniel Jones.. Eli has no skin in the game other than the risk of saying something honest and bad about the current Giants QB and then getting called out for it later in life..
Yup the Giants really showed the league!
Evan Neal and 82M guaranteed to Daniel Jones.
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I don't think Eli is a shill... I think he believes this.
“He’s going to come back, he’s going to be healthy. He works hard. He’s a great teammate. He does all the intangible things really, really well, and I think they got to trust him, can put some guys, get help around them and continue to grow with these teams. I think when you sign your key guys to contracts, Saquon [Barkley], Dexter Lawrence, Daniel … you put these guys, you keep adding guys around them and you don’t just say, hey, switch it up right away because you have one bad year.”
What I find funny is so many of these people who are questioning Eli's take on Jones hang onto every word Sy types in criticism of Jones. Which one knows the game of football, and especially quarterback play, better?
This is precious. Eli and Jones are friends you nitwit. What do you expect him to say? At least Sy is breaking down the games, play by play. I’ll take Sy’s opinion over Eli’s. I love Eli but he isn’t breaking down film like others do. He’s sticking up for his buddy.
You guys acting like it’s all settled now, Eli praised him so we are good and Jones is the perfect man for the job are hysterical. But Eli said so!!!!
When it comes to QB play - I'd take Eli. 16 year pro. Two time SB MVP, son and brother of NFL QBs. You don't think in his 20 years as college and pro QB he ever brokedown video/film? He does it each week on his alt MNF broadcast.
I think both Sy and Eli can breakdown QB play. They may disagree, but they can talk on equal terms unlike usins here on BBI! Another thing, Eli and Peyton see things as the happen while doing the broadcast. You sometimes hear them predict the play and outcome before the snap.
I completely agree with you about Eli and his qualifications but it only makes sense if you think this is his honest assessment and an assessment he is making with doing all the due diligence of a coach.. in this case he is just doing what a good team mate says.. Eli is a huge Giants fan and he has a bond with Daniel Jones.. This isn't a full blown assessment of Daniel Jones.. Eli has no skin in the game other than the risk of saying something honest and bad about the current Giants QB and then getting called out for it later in life..
Of course Eli is speaking as a friend, I acknowledged that earlier...I was responding to a poster saying Eli doesn't know how to breakdown film....
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But he also has eyes and he knows good QB play when he sees it and DJ was fucking rotten this year...and that was before the injuries kicked in.
Lol, yes go ahead and put words in Eli s mouth. Unbelievable, the lengths some of you will go.
Right, because when you consistently miss the open man it's not a sign of the play of the QB...
then he became a top QB of all time
Who knows?
If Jones was healthy (no injury history at all), you could make Eli’s case (I would still move on, but you could make a case)
Those two neck injuries make Jones a ticking time bomb. It would be irresponsible for Schoen to stick with Jones, regardless of what the Mara’s would like.
I’m sure this exact conversation will take place after the season too.
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Should have listened to the wizards of BBI and picked Malik Willis. What a steal for the Titans.
Yup the Giants really showed the league!
Evan Neal and 82M guaranteed to Daniel Jones.
Neal was #2 on the Dallas draft board, so we should feel better about that miss.
At least that's how I read that thread yesterday...
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Should have listened to the wizards of BBI and picked Malik Willis. What a steal for the Titans.
Yup the Giants really showed the league!
Evan Neal and 82M guaranteed to Daniel Jones.
Neal was #2 on the Dallas draft board, so we should feel better about that miss.
At least that's how I read that thread yesterday...
If they get a better line coach, it may not be a miss. But yeah, the Cowboys are very good on drafting OL and ER.
Yup the Giants really showed the league!
Evan Neal and 82M guaranteed to Daniel Jones.
Neal was #2 on the Dallas draft board, so we should feel better about that miss.
At least that's how I read that thread yesterday...
I posted this on the other thread -- I'd happily trade Neal and Jones for Willis today.
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But he also has eyes and he knows good QB play when he sees it and DJ was fucking rotten this year...and that was before the injuries kicked in.
Lol, yes go ahead and put words in Eli s mouth. Unbelievable, the lengths some of you will go.
Right, because when you consistently miss the open man it's not a sign of the play of the QB...
If only Eli knew as much football as the BBI couch GMs.
The signing always represented that the organization felt they were in a Super Bowl window with the team they had.
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That's a fact. It's been borne out over five years - a larger sample size than he's earned.
So either the Giants are trying to sell a fabrication (Daniel Jones is a good quarterback) or they are all honestly clueless.
Either way, not good.
*minus that one time where I disappeared and he dragged the team to the playoffs and broke a NFL record in that game and then returned immediately once the team started sucking again and he got hurt*
That's not the sort of thing a former QB is going to say about another one. Eli would be killed by the media if he said that.
That's not the sort of thing a former QB is going to say about another one. Eli would be killed by the media if he said that.
Having played with Jones and with his Giants organizational ties, if Eli really felt this ^ I'd expect half of what he said: "“He’s going to come back, he’s going to be healthy. He works hard. He’s a great teammate. He does all the intangible things really, really well," add something like "He'll put 1000% into rehab and I'm sure he'll be ready to play at a high level again."
EG a Daboll type answer.
But no I don't think Eli would add the rest of the stuff if he didn't believe it. For whatever his opinion is worth.
To each his own, but I honestly don't get what exactly some of the posters on this board consider themselves a fan of?
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Not surprised by the reaction. When you read something about Jones, from the guy who played the position, that you don’t agree with, blame it on Johnny Boy
Very disrespectful to Eli by the way to suggest what you are suggesting
What should the reaction be?
Why should we trust Eli's opinion? John Elway was one of the greatest QBs I've ever seen and he was a horrible evaluator of the position as Denver's GM...
Why do you have to trust Eli? Why can’t it simply be him not going to throw someone under the bus and taking the high road like he always does? Why the obsession of “trusting” sports figures?
You have your opinions, what does Eli have to do with it? Outside of breaking down film and talking about it through the the lens of a former QB, what can Eli say that would have any bearing on your opinions of current Giants?
Of course I would.
Jones is damaged goods and the Giants would have to include something in exchange for a team to take the 36M and remaining guarantees.
The Giants would effectively be giving the Titans 2 years of Evan Neal for taking the horrible Jones contract off their hands.
And the Giants would get a near no-cost lottery ticket on Willis to see if he can develop as a backup.
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Not surprised by the reaction. When you read something about Jones, from the guy who played the position, that you don’t agree with, blame it on Johnny Boy
Very disrespectful to Eli by the way to suggest what you are suggesting
What should the reaction be?
Why should we trust Eli's opinion? John Elway was one of the greatest QBs I've ever seen and he was a horrible evaluator of the position as Denver's GM...
The reaction should be one of taking Eli s words at face value. You don’t have to agree with them, but suggesting he would say these things if he believed them not to be true is akin to calling him a liar, a mouth piece for the organization never to be taken seriously in anything he says regarding the team
You critics of Jones have such distain for him as a quarterback you just cannot comprehend that someone like Eli doesn’t agree with your take. So you go into attack mode.
It s nothing new, but Eli is adored on this board, so this take must be discredited
I still believe Daniel Jones can be a winning quarterback, but I have come to understand at this point in his career, taking into consideration his inability to stay healthy, and the possibility that he might have been David Carred, it s time to draft a young quarterback.
But I find the takes on this thread hysterical, Eli has really rocked the boat
Man has a worse QBR than DeVito.
Man has a worse QBR than DeVito.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you're actually not familiar with what a lottery tickets is.
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christian - you would trade Evan Neal and Daniel Jones for Malik Willis? Was that a serious comment?
Of course I would.
Jones is damaged goods and the Giants would have to include something in exchange for a team to take the 36M and remaining guarantees.
The Giants would effectively be giving the Titans 2 years of Evan Neal for taking the horrible Jones contract off their hands.
And the Giants would get a near no-cost lottery ticket on Willis to see if he can develop as a backup.
I believe you would.
Of course I would.
Jones is damaged goods and the Giants would have to include something in exchange for a team to take the 36M and remaining guarantees.
The Giants would effectively be giving the Titans 2 years of Evan Neal for taking the horrible Jones contract off their hands.
And the Giants would get a near no-cost lottery ticket on Willis to see if he can develop as a backup.
I believe you would.
And I believe if given the opportunity to get out from Jones's bad contract, you wouldn't.
See how that works?
The signing always represented that the organization felt they were in a Super Bowl window with the team they had. Link - ( New Window )
What a thread.
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When is Malik Willis considered a lottery ticket?
Man has a worse QBR than DeVito.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you're actually not familiar with what a lottery tickets is.
He's worse than the current Giants QB. Have at it.