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What do we think of Devito?

armstead98 : 11/16/2023 8:14 am
We obviously haven’t been competitive when he’s played and the coaching staff doesn’t seem to trust him, but he’s made some plays with his feet and will take shots downfield. Does he have a future as a backup or will he be out of the league soon?
I think he's good enough  
logman : 11/16/2023 8:16 am : link
to lose them as many games as he starts, and that has utility in their present state
I am not sure  
PaulN : 11/16/2023 8:17 am : link
He is a backup. But it's too early to say. But he does not have a good arm, that is not good because what are the talents to overcome that? I don't see any yet.
RE: I am not sure  
nochance : 11/16/2023 8:18 am : link
In comment 16290851 PaulN said:
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He is a backup. But it's too early to say. But he does not have a good arm, that is not good because what are the talents to overcome that? I don't see any yet.



He's an XFL talent
He has a pretty strong arm.  
section125 : 11/16/2023 8:18 am : link
I would like to see what he can do in a few more games before declaring him #2 QB material.

Part of me wants him to finish the year as the QB, but TT is coming back and will have to be put back in the games - well until he gets hurt again.
Possible back up  
Rick in Dallas : 11/16/2023 8:21 am : link
…..
He’s a rookie PS QB  
BillT : 11/16/2023 8:23 am : link
He might be as good as any other rookie PS QB but that’s not saying very much. There isn’t much to think about. I don’t think he’s capable of winning a game at this point but who knows. Stranger things have happened.
Tank Commander  
BrianLeonard23 : 11/16/2023 8:24 am : link
Even after a few weeks they don’t trust him to throw a forward pass.
RE: Tank Commander  
section125 : 11/16/2023 8:25 am : link
In comment 16290861 BrianLeonard23 said:
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Even after a few weeks they don’t trust him to throw a forward pass.


Huh?
He will probably be starting…  
Chris in Philly : 11/16/2023 8:29 am : link
his coaching career next year.
RE: RE: Tank Commander  
BrianLeonard23 : 11/16/2023 8:34 am : link
In comment 16290863 section125 said:
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Even after a few weeks they don’t trust him to throw a forward pass.



Huh?


Did you watch the Dallas game? They weren’t even trying from the first possession.
He  
Ron Johnson : 11/16/2023 8:36 am : link
Gives you absolutely no chance to win. Which is why he is playing.
He wasn't good enough for Syracuse  
Sean : 11/16/2023 8:40 am : link
But, apparently he was good enough to be on the Giants practice squad.
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ThomasG : 11/16/2023 8:41 am : link





Sorry, can't let that one go.
RE: He  
SirLoinOfBeef : 11/16/2023 8:48 am : link
In comment 16290868 Ron Johnson said:
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Gives you absolutely no chance to win. Which is why he is playing.


100%
RE: I think he's good enough  
SirLoinOfBeef : 11/16/2023 8:48 am : link
In comment 16290850 logman said:
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to lose them as many games as he starts, and that has utility in their present state


100%
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/16/2023 8:48 am : link
There’s a reason he’s a 3rd string QB.
I give him a 50/50  
RetroJint : 11/16/2023 8:49 am : link
shot of being a guy who can hold a number # 2 job in the league . To date, since he left high school , he’s been placed in difficult circumstances except last season at Illinois . How did he do? He almost beat Michigan in An. Arbor , losing 17-19 , in a game that featured a couple of very questionable DPI calls against a sold Illini defensive backfield on , like, third and seventeen plays . He was 21-30 for 178, which is the quintessential “ game manager” tag.

It’s not easy finding quality back-up QBs that don’t occupy what Louis Riddick says is the 8th highest salary-slot priority on the team.

There is a guy playing right now from Shepherd College these dates , right ? Bagent . Well who profiles as more of an XFL player , Devito or Bagent?

During these hapless remaining games , seeing what Devito can do is on my checklist .

RE: RE: RE: Tank Commander  
section125 : 11/16/2023 8:50 am : link
In comment 16290867 BrianLeonard23 said:
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Even after a few weeks they don’t trust him to throw a forward pass.



Huh?



Did you watch the Dallas game? They weren’t even trying from the first possession.


Yeah ok....nothing to do with the right side collapsing on the snap.
If he dropped back to pass then they were looking to throw. He probably has a limited playbook becuase he doesn't know all the plays as he ran the scout squad for 7/8 weeks.
When Devito was starting at Illinois, the team was bottomfeeders  
GiantBlue : 11/16/2023 8:53 am : link
to Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, etc.

He wasn't mentioned seriously with any QB's that were draftable last year and clearly 31 other teams beside the Giants did not feel he was worth a pick.

He seems like a nice guy and certainly is taking one for the team, but to be an undrafted free agent in his rookie season and being asked to start for an NFL franchise; the Giants no less....is absolutely insane.

This is a pure case of being set up to fail. Daboll says they are working with him, etc, etc, etc.....but he is a sacrificial lamb on the runway to a new and better team....hopefully.

He will be out of league soon  
ZogZerg : 11/16/2023 8:55 am : link
He is terrible
All hail our Tank Commander!  
Optimus-NY : 11/16/2023 9:00 am : link


This kid deserves a ring one day after Drake Maye leads the giants to their next Super Bowl title in a few years!
Don’t know him personally  
newjerseygiants : 11/16/2023 9:04 am : link
but he’s from Jersey so probably a pretty cool guy.
.  
Banks : 11/16/2023 9:07 am : link
After the season he's gonna go home and get his shine box
He has a good arm and throws a nice ball,  
Section331 : 11/16/2023 9:10 am : link
even if some shorter throws are lacking in accuracy. He is also a decent athlete and able to make plays with his feet. That said, his pocket presence is downright awful, he’s going to need to improve markedly before I’d be willing to see him as the primary backup.
He might be better than Jake Fromm State Farm,  
Mad Mike : 11/16/2023 9:13 am : link
so he's go that going for him, which is nice.
It will come down to how much  
Dankbeerman : 11/16/2023 9:20 am : link
He can handle between the ears. He will be the #3 QB for at least another year, probably on the PS. If he picks this offense up and can play faster by that point he could challenge for the #2 spot.
He should get the same treatment as Jones  
Metnut : 11/16/2023 9:26 am : link
It's impossible to judge him until we get 4 more all-pros on the OL to join Thomas, and a few stud WRs too. Even then, it wouldn't be fair to judge him since Waller is out.
He  
Toth029 : 11/16/2023 9:26 am : link
Is better than Malik Willis.
RE: I give him a 50/50  
rsjem1979 : 11/16/2023 9:27 am : link
In comment 16290880 RetroJint said:
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shot of being a guy who can hold a number # 2 job in the league . To date, since he left high school , he’s been placed in difficult circumstances except last season at Illinois . How did he do? He almost beat Michigan in An. Arbor , losing 17-19 , in a game that featured a couple of very questionable DPI calls against a sold Illini defensive backfield on , like, third and seventeen plays . He was 21-30 for 178, which is the quintessential “ game manager” tag.


That must have been a nice moment for him, but if I had to guess Michigan watched more film that week on CJ Stroud than they did on Tommy DeVito.
RE: He should get the same treatment as Jones  
Metnut : 11/16/2023 9:27 am : link
In comment 16290928 Metnut said:
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It's impossible to judge him until we get 4 more all-pros on the OL to join Thomas, and a few stud WRs too. Even then, it wouldn't be fair to judge him since Waller is out.


Sarcasm aside, he needs to show that the offense can run at something approaching the Tyrod Taylor level when he's the QB to get an NFL backup job. It seems unlikely in either event that there's room for him outside of the practice squad next year given that we're likely taking a QB with a top pick and Jones ridiculous contract makes him impossible to cut.
RE: Don’t know him personally  
mfjmfj : 11/16/2023 9:47 am : link
In comment 16290901 newjerseygiants said:
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but he’s from Jersey so probably a pretty cool guy.


I was thinking exactly the opposite.
He was not a good college QB  
larryflower37 : 11/16/2023 9:59 am : link
He was only brought in for a look because he was a local kid.
I am happy he is getting his moment in the sun, it makes for a good story but he is not a strong backup QB candidate.
He was keeping around to run the scout team and never see the field.
Great story  
Simms : 11/16/2023 10:10 am : link
Wish him the best do not see him being the answer or challenge a serious starter. Nor a viable backup long term.
Replaceable  
Anakim : 11/16/2023 10:14 am : link
JAG
Game management  
budman88 : 11/16/2023 10:31 am : link
I have read several articles about DeVito, because he unfortunately for me, was my starting QB in fantasy lge I am in. My original QB’s were Aaron Rodgers (we all know what happened to him) and Stafford, who also got hurt,but , hopefully will be back this week. When Rodgers got hurt, we picked up TT, and, we know what happened to him also.

Now, I know there are restrictions in practicing during the week. But, the team needs to do things differently. I can only think of what may be within the confines of league rules. But , standing behind the team during these practices, is worthless! The coaches should, if reasonable, leave him the film room to watch and rewatch films of the QB’s who are similarly built. I.e. Mahomes, Stroud, and probably others, who have competed with success. No use standing behind the other players spinning the football in your hands.

I do not think that he is only “ allowed to practice “ a handful of plays? I would grateful if someone could embellish the types of things a 3rd string/practice squad player is involved in during their practices!
...  
ryanmkeane : 11/16/2023 10:33 am : link
Likely does not belong on a NFL game roster
FYI  
HardTruth : 11/16/2023 10:34 am : link
DeVito has 2 TDs on 54 passing attempts and a total of 3 TDs one in each game he played in

Daniel Jones has 2 TDs on 160 attempts (the worst such ratio since 1933 topping only himself in NFL history- his 2021 season) and 3 total TDs, all coming in same half of same game.

Jones averages a TD pass per 30.6 pass attempts for his career. DeVito is currently at a TD per 27 pass attempt
RE: When Devito was starting at Illinois, the team was bottomfeeders  
k2tampa : 11/16/2023 10:37 am : link
In comment 16290884 GiantBlue said:
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to Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, etc.

He wasn't mentioned seriously with any QB's that were draftable last year and clearly 31 other teams beside the Giants did not feel he was worth a pick.

He seems like a nice guy and certainly is taking one for the team, but to be an undrafted free agent in his rookie season and being asked to start for an NFL franchise; the Giants no less....is absolutely insane.

This is a pure case of being set up to fail. Daboll says they are working with him, etc, etc, etc.....but he is a sacrificial lamb on the runway to a new and better team....hopefully.


The first thing I think is who knows what his career will be. But Illinois was 5-4 in the conference and 8-5 overall last year. It was their first winning record overall since 2010 and in the Big Ten since 2007, when he was maybe 8 years old. DeVito completed 70 percent of his passes last year with 15 TDs and 4 INTs. He definitely helped improve the team. But maybe, using your logic, we should dismissed Williams because his team is 5-3 in the Pac 12 and 7-4 overall? He's "helped" USC fall from last year's 11-3 overall and 8-1 in the conference. They're bottom feeders to the best teams in that league.

Before you jump, no, I'm not comparing DeVito to Williams. I'm pointing out the QB isn't the only one responsible for a team's record. Texas Tech was 5-7 overall and 3-6 in the conference in Mahomes' last year. Why would KC draft a QB from such a bottom feeder?

As far as your bottom feeders claim, yeah, they didn't beat OSU, PSU and Mich. But it's pretty ridiculous to blame DeVito for not beating OSU, and Penn St. since they didn't play them. They did play Michigan and lost to them by 2 points in Ann Arbor. Maybe a better QB could have gotten the win. But the only other teams to stay within 20 points of Michigan in the regular season were Iowa (by 13 points) in Iowa City and Maryland (7 points) in Ann Arbor. By the way, Ohio State lost to Michigan by 22 points - at home. Why would anyone pick Stroud no. 2 overall when OSU was such a bottom feeder to Michigan? Michigan beat Penn St. by 24. Sort of makes losing by 2 in Ann Arbor against last year's Michigan team seem pretty impressive.

Second, I think it would be good if, when discussing a player, Giant fans could type his name correctly. It doesn't take a lot of effort. DeVito.
RE: Tank Commander  
Blue21 : 11/16/2023 10:37 am : link
In comment 16290861 BrianLeonard23 said:
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Even after a few weeks they don’t trust him to throw a forward pass.
lol. Whatever it takes
He has the physical ability  
Biteymax22 : 11/16/2023 10:46 am : link
Moves well, good enough arm.

He processes slowly and needs a ton of refinement. Very clearly there was never an intention for him to get in a game as I'd guess the plan was to spend a full year on the practice squad developing.

If he progresses, his ceiling is a mid level back up.

I hope I'm wrong and he surprises us and turns into a better player than that, but I'm not counting on it.
Unless you're a proffesional scout  
JOrthman : 11/16/2023 10:56 am : link
I don't know how you could form any solid opinion on him. This offense has been a dumpster fire no matter who was playing QB this year. Sadly, he's put up just as decent of numbers as Jones and Taylor with nowhere near the experience.
Tommy Devito  
Paulie Walnuts : 11/16/2023 11:02 am : link
He's a funny guy
Probably  
AcidTest : 11/16/2023 1:09 pm : link
a camp body and at best a PS player. He did look good in the preseason, but that was against third stringers and future PS players. And if the Giants draft a QB high next year, then since Jones has to stay on the roster because of his contract, DeVito would likely go back to the PS. But if he plays well the rest of the season, he has an outside chance of convincing the league he could be a viable #2. The problem is that not surprisingly he's taking too much time to make decisions. The game is just too fast for him right now.
Food for thought?  
HardTruth : 11/16/2023 1:13 pm : link
If “no one” can operate behind this line and therefore we cant evaluate their performance then shouldn’t that apply to DeVito?

And if DeVito can be evaluated and clearly isnt very good then what does that tell us about Daniel Jones who has less TDs in more games and more passing attempts?
he should start the rest of the year  
ElitoCanton : 11/16/2023 1:20 pm : link
to earn us a top pick. After that, he should not be on an NFL roster. He's not an NFL caliber player.
RE: Probably  
k2tampa : 11/16/2023 1:31 pm : link
In comment 16291284 AcidTest said:
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a camp body and at best a PS player. He did look good in the preseason, but that was against third stringers and future PS players. And if the Giants draft a QB high next year, then since Jones has to stay on the roster because of his contract, DeVito would likely go back to the PS. But if he plays well the rest of the season, he has an outside chance of convincing the league he could be a viable #2. The problem is that not surprisingly he's taking too much time to make decisions. The game is just too fast for him right now.


Which is why he and other young guys need to be playing - to gain experience.
RE: he should start the rest of the year  
Optimus-NY : 11/17/2023 9:13 am : link
In comment 16291309 ElitoCanton said:
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to earn us a top pick. After that, he should not be on an NFL roster. He's not an NFL caliber player.


Pretty much.

All hail Tank Commander DeVito!
Loved him in The Rainmaker  
jeff57 : 11/17/2023 11:05 am : link
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RE: Food for thought?  
Thunderstruck27 : 11/17/2023 3:10 pm : link
In comment 16291296 HardTruth said:
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If “no one” can operate behind this line and therefore we cant evaluate their performance then shouldn’t that apply to DeVito?

And if DeVito can be evaluated and clearly isnt very good then what does that tell us about Daniel Jones who has less TDs in more games and more passing attempts?


Um..the same does apply. Which one of our playmakers balled out under DeVito or Taylor? Bellinger? Shepard? Waller? Slayton? Robinson? This offense stinks.
Do we want to talk about the Oline.
hopefully he will develop  
bc4life : 11/18/2023 11:34 am : link
into a solid backup
he's getting a lot of valuable playing time  
fkap : 11/18/2023 1:12 pm : link
I doubt anyone is expecting him to be the starter next year, but he does have an excellent opportunity to get the experience to have a shot at being the backup.

Sy say's he improving. All you can ask.
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