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NFT: Knicks @ Hornets 6 pm start

larryflower37 : 11/18/2023 4:40 pm
Both teams on a back to back.
Knicks looking for their 3rd straight win. Hornets got crushed last night by the Bucks and have lost 3 straight.

*Barrett is game time decision - warming up now. Fournier and Grimes are out.

This is not a walk over game and the hornets always play us tough.

#LFGK
Fournier finally gets some minutes  
BigBlueShock : 11/18/2023 4:45 pm : link
Now he’s injured? Lol.
Bridges is back for Charlotte too.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2023 4:59 pm : link
He’s outplayed Randle badly at times.
RJ is back  
KevinBBWC : 11/18/2023 5:34 pm : link
Steve Popper
@StevePopper
Barrett will play tonight.
RE: RJ is back  
Ira : 11/18/2023 5:41 pm : link
In comment 16293331 KevinBBWC said:
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Steve Popper
@StevePopper
Barrett will play tonight.


I hope he's not too rusty.
Let's go..  
larryflower37 : 11/18/2023 5:54 pm : link
I wonder who starts at the 2.
Should be IQ but probably Hart
Divincenzo starting  
KevinBBWC : 11/18/2023 5:59 pm : link
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Nice start  
larryflower37 : 11/18/2023 6:19 pm : link
This a different team when you have 3 scorers out there plus them playing unselfish.
Brutal quarter for average fan to watch  
JT039 : 11/18/2023 6:38 pm : link
One made basket by both teams in the last 5 minutes.

Hornets are a joke of a franchise. Watered down league so far this year.
Hart with one of those wait until after the buzzer to shoot  
steve in ky : 11/18/2023 6:38 pm : link
And then he makes it
RE: Fournier finally gets some minutes  
steve in ky : 11/18/2023 6:39 pm : link
In comment 16293267 BigBlueShock said:
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Now he’s injured? Lol.


What happened to Fournier?
Some hideous basketball  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2023 6:42 pm : link
since Brunson went to the bench.
Rj if you arent healthy dont play  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2023 6:45 pm : link
Stop forcing shots please, there was no one back, no need to force over 2 guys taller than you, come on, you have been better than that, dont bring that shit back
RJ can't hit a shot  
larryflower37 : 11/18/2023 6:46 pm : link
Might be smart to limit minutes tonight, he just looks off
RE: RE: Fournier finally gets some minutes  
larryflower37 : 11/18/2023 6:46 pm : link
In comment 16293404 steve in ky said:
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In comment 16293267 BigBlueShock said:


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Now he’s injured? Lol.



What happened to Fournier?


Sore ankle.
Brunson flurry restores order.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2023 7:07 pm : link
Gotta turn this back into a half court game.
Remember when people LOL'd signing DiVincenzo?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/18/2023 8:01 pm : link
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Grimes better get healthy quick  
larryflower37 : 11/18/2023 8:10 pm : link
DiVincenzo looks better and is not afraid to shoot when open plus he did shoot 40% from 3 last year
Great win 8-5  
larryflower37 : 11/18/2023 8:13 pm : link
6-1 in the last 7 and 3-1 on the road trip.
Let's go knock off Minny and get home..
Hoo  
Spider43 : 11/18/2023 8:14 pm : link
We are cooking now!
I always said Grimes was the perfect fit foe the starters  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2023 8:21 pm : link
but man does DDV know how to play off of stars, the way he cuts, he is so active even when he doesnt get the ball and he is not afraid to shoot..

Grimes could learn a thing or two to get more shots in the offense
missed the game but nice box score -  
Del Shofner : 11/18/2023 8:28 pm : link
DDV, jeez. We need someone who can shoot the 3 like that.
DDV signing thread  
shyster : 11/18/2023 8:37 pm : link
I don't see anyone criticizing DDV the player.

The only negative comment is this:

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nygiants16 : 7/2/2023 8:42 am : I think he is a very good addition to this team but there needs to be another move, can not go into this season like they did last season, the rotation was clunky and too packed and the team suffered for it for the first 23 games..


The "clunkiness" of the roster is the perspective from which the current roster overall, DDV included, has been questioned.

It's a cap league; you can't pay everybody and you have to make it a priority to get significant contributions from players getting rookie scale.

Knicks are running out of time on IQ and Grimes, who play the same position as DDV.

Take a look at the Nuggets contract list at Basketball Reference. They only pay 5 guys more than $5M a year. And that's a very conscious strategy.
RE: DDV signing thread  
shyster : 11/18/2023 8:38 pm : link
Link to thread
thread - ( New Window )
RE: DDV signing thread  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2023 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16293500 shyster said:
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I don't see anyone criticizing DDV the player.

The only negative comment is this:



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nygiants16 : 7/2/2023 8:42 am : I think he is a very good addition to this team but there needs to be another move, can not go into this season like they did last season, the rotation was clunky and too packed and the team suffered for it for the first 23 games..



The "clunkiness" of the roster is the perspective from which the current roster overall, DDV included, has been questioned.

It's a cap league; you can't pay everybody and you have to make it a priority to get significant contributions from players getting rookie scale.

Knicks are running out of time on IQ and Grimes, who play the same position as DDV.

Take a look at the Nuggets contract list at Basketball Reference. They only pay 5 guys more than $5M a year. And that's a very conscious strategy.


How is that a negative comment? lol, i was worried about the rotation and wondering if Thibs was going to end up going 10 players again, happy to see he didnt..
and my clunky comment  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2023 8:50 pm : link
was about the beginning of last year where they were 10 guys and they were basiclaly doing hockey shifts and players werent getting into a flow..

This rotation is anything but clunky..

and if you think Iq, Grimes and DDV cant all play together than i dont know what you are watching
My fear from the DDV signing  
larryflower37 : 11/18/2023 8:52 pm : link
Was minutes not the player and were would they get the minutes to keep everyone happy.

I said a couple weeks ago DDV need to start over Grimes but only because he is a more win now player and Grimes needs to develop confidence with the 2nd unit.
McBride is the best player that doesn't get minutes it's rough.

Last bullet-
RJ again lead in +/- again and leads the team on the season. Big step for him
and Shyster i love how you dont post my full comment  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2023 8:57 pm : link
where i clarified and said the move is their big move for another star and dont post any of my other comments where i say this makes the Knicks more versatile and Obi wasnt really a fit anymore..

If you want to call me out, fine but at leaat quote my full comment not half
RE: and Shyster i love how you dont post my full comment  
shyster : 11/18/2023 9:00 pm : link
In comment 16293517 nygiants16 said:
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where i clarified and said the move is their big move for another star and dont post any of my other comments where i say this makes the Knicks more versatile and Obi wasnt really a fit anymore..

If you want to call me out, fine but at leaat quote my full comment not half


I do apologize. That was not all my intention. And I was about to post that I don't pretend to know what exactly was in your mind when you made the comment.

Only wanted to make the point that DDV the player has not been criticized, only the state of the roster, and the need for another move.
RE: and my clunky comment  
shyster : 11/18/2023 9:04 pm : link
In comment 16293512 nygiants16 said:
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was about the beginning of last year where they were 10 guys and they were basiclaly doing hockey shifts and players werent getting into a flow..

This rotation is anything but clunky..

and if you think Iq, Grimes and DDV cant all play together than i dont know what you are watching


It's not that they can't play together, but that the cap dictates a strategy of getting bench contributions from players making rookie scale. And Knicks are running out of time to make use of Grimes as a trade asset before he would need to get paid. And they have a need to fill in the front court.
RE: RE: and my clunky comment  
shyster : 11/18/2023 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16293524 shyster said:

That should say "IQ and Grimes." And the cap theory of roster construction isn't mine; it's Calvin Booth's, Nuggets GM.
Dont worry about it  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2023 9:08 pm : link
I got plenty of shit i say that i should get criticized for, no need to misquote me lol
Really mature weekend for the Knicks  
Stu11 : 11/19/2023 9:06 am : link
2 lousy teams on the road and they jumped on both early and never trailed in either game. Brunson is the best signing in my lifetime for the Knicks since the late 70's. He calms everything down when we struggle and can get his shot almost Amy time he wants. DD is a better fit as a starter than Grimes. He knows how to play off the other 4 better and is aggressive enough to look for his shot. Grimes has some more length to defend lengthier scorers but team defense is far from a problem with this team. They are just relentless on the glass. It's a team effort from 1-10. Mitch with 11 more offensive rebounds last night. Insane.
I really like how Randle is playing  
nygiants16 : 11/19/2023 11:31 am : link
I know it is slow and methodical, but i like he is attacking the rim and right now he is making the right read and he is getting guys wide open looks for 3s. It is also allowing Brunson to play more off the ball and he is cashing in..

As for Grimes i wonder if its in his nature to be agressive like we saw from DDV tonight, if the Knicks decided to bring him off the bench to play with Quick and Rj, would he be more agressive shooting the ball??
RE: I really like how Randle is playing  
larryflower37 : 11/19/2023 11:39 am : link
In comment 16293921 nygiants16 said:
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I know it is slow and methodical, but i like he is attacking the rim and right now he is making the right read and he is getting guys wide open looks for 3s. It is also allowing Brunson to play more off the ball and he is cashing in..

As for Grimes i wonder if its in his nature to be agressive like we saw from DDV tonight, if the Knicks decided to bring him off the bench to play with Quick and Rj, would he be more agressive shooting the ball??

He has shown in summer league, rookie game, etc. To have the aggression needed I think maybe playing with 2nd unit he turns into the 2nd or 3rd option..
Grimes is averaging 7 shots with the first unit but DDV took 12 shots yesterday. With Randle, Brunson, and RJ taking their normal amount of shots.
Maybe a reset for Grimes is needed.
Can DDV harass the likes of Trae Young and Donovan Mitchell  
bceagle05 : 11/19/2023 11:50 am : link
on the defensive end the way Grimes can? I’m not against a switch but I wonder if we’ll get diminishing returns on DDV with more playing time, like we have with Hart at times.
RE: Can DDV harass the likes of Trae Young and Donovan Mitchell  
nygiants16 : 11/19/2023 12:26 pm : link
In comment 16293948 bceagle05 said:
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on the defensive end the way Grimes can? I’m not against a switch but I wonder if we’ll get diminishing returns on DDV with more playing time, like we have with Hart at times.


I think he can but he takes more chances than Grimes, i think straight up 1 on 1 Grimes is better but playing passing lanes and being able to get steals DDV is better..
Grimes better find his shot fast  
Mondo : 11/19/2023 12:47 pm : link
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RE: Can DDV harass the likes of Trae Young and Donovan Mitchell  
larryflower37 : 11/19/2023 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16293948 bceagle05 said:
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on the defensive end the way Grimes can? I’m not against a switch but I wonder if we’ll get diminishing returns on DDV with more playing time, like we have with Hart at times.

I don't think the gap defensively is as big as what DDV brings offensively.
RE: Grimes better find his shot fast  
ElitoCanton : 11/19/2023 1:08 pm : link
Grimes is shooting 40 percent from 3. Problem is he isn't aggressive enough.

In comment 16294035 Mondo said:
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