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PS Official Elevations Bullock/Jackson

bigbluewillrise : 11/18/2023 4:54 pm
I know it doesnt matter in this crazy season...

but we signed York and we burned a roster spot for 3 weeks.

we signed a K to the active roster to not kick.

i really hope schoen learns from this disastrous offseason.


Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
ROSTER MOVES 11/18

Activated from Practice Squad:
▪️ K Randy Bullock
▪️ TE Tyree Jackson


Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
This is Bullock’s third and final elevation. That leaves the Giants with three options next week:

1. Sign Bullock to the active roster, cut York.

2. Sign Bullock to the active roster, keep York.

3. Don’t sign Bullock to the active roster, make York the kicker going forward.

No. 1 seems like the obvious outcome, but I’m ready for whatever twist and turns comes next in this saga.
id like to see jackson play a lot of snaps  
bigbluewillrise : 11/18/2023 4:56 pm : link
i wish theyd go heavy two TE sets a lot and run a lot and play action and throw to these two ahteltic/big TE.
My reaction to anything with this team concerning this season is  
Chris684 : 11/18/2023 4:59 pm : link
Who cares?

And that’s with 7 games left.

Unbelievable.
McCain was added to injury report  
bigbluewillrise : 11/18/2023 5:02 pm : link
maybe owens finally plays!!!
but he is traveling so maybe he does.


we know York, Adoree, Neal are inactive for sure.
mccain might be inactive.

need 7 inactives, thats 4 above.

probably Riley, Owens, and a 4th RB and a 9th OL are the possible remaining inactives.

Also shepard we wait for every week to be inactive.

would love to see Riley, Owens, Corbin active and get snaps over a 9th OL, Jackson (RB), Shepard.
why can't  
BigBlueCane : 11/18/2023 5:06 pm : link
they pick a Kicker for God's sake?

This is one of those coaching decisions that raises questions about Daboll and his staff.
RE: why can't  
k2tampa : 11/18/2023 5:37 pm : link
In comment 16293302 BigBlueCane said:
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they pick a Kicker for God's sake?

This is one of those coaching decisions that raises questions about Daboll and his staff.


York was signed for his future potential. Who would you rather have on the active roster and deactivated? I have no problem with this. You guys act like the guy in the 53rd spot would be a pro bowler if York wasn't there.

It's a different world than even 6 years ago. Eight guys not active for each game. Expanded PS, and two PS squad elevation every week. The 53rd guy on the roster is essentially a PS guy who can't be poached.

How much will we save next year if York can be our kicker instead of Gano? I think Gano has a salary of $3 million next year with a $2 million roster bonus. It's well worth the 'gamble.' In fact, it's smart.
RE: why can't  
Optimus-NY : 11/18/2023 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16293302 BigBlueCane said:
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they pick a Kicker for God's sake?

This is one of those coaching decisions that raises questions about Daboll and his staff.


The Special Teams Coach gotsta go.
What  
AcidTest : 11/18/2023 5:49 pm : link
the hell is going on with these kickers? It's comical. Shepard and Lemieux on the roster. Phillips cut at the end of camp.
I get it that York was signed for the future  
Gman11 : 11/18/2023 5:54 pm : link
but why can't he be for the present? Just tell Bullock thanks for the memories and let York kick for the remainder of the season. Unless York has some sort of injury this doesn't make sense, but if he did, he would show up on the injury report.
RE: RE: why can't  
shyster : 11/18/2023 6:06 pm : link
In comment 16293333 k2tampa said:
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How much will we save next year if York can be our kicker instead of Gano? I think Gano has a salary of $3 million next year with a $2 million roster bonus. It's well worth the 'gamble.' In fact, it's smart.


That's guaranteed money; Giants can't avoid it by cutting Gano.

Gano has a $9m dead cap for '24. He's not getting cut.
They signed York off another teams' practice squad  
HBart : 11/18/2023 6:42 pm : link
They had to sign him to the active roster for at least 3 games
RE: They signed York off another teams' practice squad  
bigbluewillrise : 11/18/2023 7:08 pm : link
In comment 16293410 HBart said:
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They had to sign him to the active roster for at least 3 games


we know that, whyd u sign him if he wasnt going to kick?
People arguing over  
section125 : 11/18/2023 7:14 pm : link
a freaking kicker?
With All the Problems  
Samiam : 11/18/2023 7:54 pm : link
And with the season we’re having, some of you have really zeroed in on the critical fix (except for the ST coach having to go).
Not  
Toth029 : 11/18/2023 8:02 pm : link
So much the K but it's the questionable roster structure and choices.
They should see what York can do in games.  
Since1965 : 11/18/2023 8:06 pm : link
At this point, what difference does it make?
RE: RE: They signed York off another teams' practice squad  
HBart : 11/18/2023 8:59 pm : link
In comment 16293431 bigbluewillrise said:
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They had to sign him to the active roster for at least 3 games



we know that, whyd u sign him if he wasnt going to kick?

Because we needed a kicker on days notice.
RE: RE: RE: They signed York off another teams' practice squad  
bigbluewillrise : 11/18/2023 9:11 pm : link
In comment 16293520 HBart said:
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In comment 16293431 bigbluewillrise said:


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In comment 16293410 HBart said:


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They had to sign him to the active roster for at least 3 games



we know that, whyd u sign him if he wasnt going to kick?


Because we needed a kicker on days notice.


so why isnt he kicking if hes on the roster?
RE: RE: They signed York off another teams' practice squad  
k2tampa : 11/18/2023 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16293431 bigbluewillrise said:
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They had to sign him to the active roster for at least 3 games



we know that, whyd u sign him if he wasnt going to kick?


For. The. Future.
RE: RE: RE: why can't  
jvm52106 : 11/19/2023 3:09 am : link
In comment 16293368 shyster said:
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In comment 16293333 k2tampa said:


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How much will we save next year if York can be our kicker instead of Gano? I think Gano has a salary of $3 million next year with a $2 million roster bonus. It's well worth the 'gamble.' In fact, it's smart.



That's guaranteed money; Giants can't avoid it by cutting Gano.

Gano has a $9m dead cap for '24. He's not getting cut.


Dead money means nothing- cap space does...
RE: RE: RE: RE: why can't  
shyster : 11/19/2023 8:10 am : link
In comment 16293680 jvm52106 said:
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Dead money means nothing- cap space does...


Gano's dead cap for 2024 ($9.7M) is more than his live cap ($7.2M). Giants would lose $2.5M in cap space by cutting him, and still have to pay another kicker. Not happening.

I tend to believe Giants were interested in York for 2023. He has a big leg and the Giants' offense often needs to be bailed out with long FGs.

They could only get a close look at him by poaching him and putting him on the active list. They evidently haven't been impressed by his accuracy/consistency. Roster positions are not at a premium right now, so all that stands to be lost is about $150k.
This would be a concern if the 53rd spot  
logman : 11/19/2023 8:55 am : link
mattered this year. It doesn't.
RE: This would be a concern if the 53rd spot  
HBart : 11/19/2023 9:02 am : link
In comment 16293752 logman said:
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mattered this year. It doesn't.

Exactly. It's nuts how people bitch about meaningless (actually positive) shit.

The Giants lost Gano. They tried out 3 retreads. They couldn't try out York because he's on another team's squad. They have no shortage of roster spots. They signed York. Now they get 3 weeks to evaluate a one time coveted kicker prospect while also having a proven vet who can't be poached.

After this game they decide if he's worth keeping as a current and/or future alternative since, due to Gano's injury, we now need one.

Great move. Kind of thing good management does.
Most here aren't complaining  
Gman11 : 11/19/2023 11:04 am : link
they are wondering why they have 2 kickers on the roster. It's not a usual occurrence. How many other teams in the league have 2 kickers on the roster?
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