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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/19/2023 4:10 pm
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the Commanders  
Giantsfan79 : 11/19/2023 4:11 pm : link
just won't let us have high draft picks
Worst Giants win ever  
Dnew15 : 11/19/2023 4:11 pm : link
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Well  
prdave73 : 11/19/2023 4:11 pm : link
there goes a higher pick in the draft.. Like the Giants didn't need it. smh..
Rivera was probably going to be canned after this year  
JohnF : 11/19/2023 4:11 pm : link
But letting a really bad Giants team beat them this way seals the deal. The question is who are the Commanders going after?
RE: the Commanders  
section125 : 11/19/2023 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16295067 Giantsfan79 said:
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just won't let us have high draft picks


Worked out well last time, didn't it?
Touchdown Tommy!  
AnnapolisMike : 11/19/2023 4:12 pm : link
Gotta be happy for the kid.
 
christian : 11/19/2023 4:12 pm : link
At a minimum, DeVito developing into a viable back up, takes that off the potential list of needs next year.
RE: Rivera was probably going to be canned after this year  
section125 : 11/19/2023 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16295075 JohnF said:
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But letting a really bad Giants team beat them this way seals the deal. The question is who are the Commanders going after?


Maybe today....
so  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/19/2023 4:12 pm : link
we OK with the defense for one more week?
LOL  
BleedBlue : 11/19/2023 4:12 pm : link
The giants can’t even lose properly.

Forget “roster evaluation “ or winning culture. The giants are bad and that starts at QB. We needed a top guy and today hurt our chances. Sucks
DeVito  
MotownGIANTS : 11/19/2023 4:12 pm : link
is a tough kid ... did a really good job. Surprised me.
......  
Route 9 : 11/19/2023 4:13 pm : link
Lol. That was a funny one.

Game thread. 10/10. Pure nonsense.
RE  
Gee Men Fan : 11/19/2023 4:13 pm : link
Lord, this team would F up a bread sandwich
DeVito is gotta be on top of the world  
islander1 : 11/19/2023 4:13 pm : link
congrats to him.
Sorry but I still  
Giantimistic : 11/19/2023 4:13 pm : link
Enjoy a Giants win against a division rival.
RE: so  
Rjanyg : 11/19/2023 4:13 pm : link
In comment 16295088 Eric from BBI said:
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we OK with the defense for one more week?


Just glad they didn’t shut the bed. A little pride.
Giants just have Washington’s number  
jeff57 : 11/19/2023 4:13 pm : link
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RE: so  
Simms11 : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16295088 Eric from BBI said:
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we OK with the defense for one more week?



They did a hell of a job today. Only critique I have today is on the Run D, which kept giving up way too much ground in the middle.
RE: Worst Giants win ever  
BigTymer : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16295072 Dnew15 said:
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Great win. Too early to worry about draft pick position and it’s not like either Caleb or Drake have looked like world beaters. Daboll and team needed a W.
......  
Route 9 : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
The guy who lives at home with his mommy is better than our $160 million QB
RE: RE: the Commanders  
k2tampa : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16295076 section125 said:
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just won't let us have high draft picks



Worked out well last time, didn't it?


Down to 5th now, possibly as low as 12th if they beat the Pats (have to see how many of the 4 win teams play each other).
I hate was  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
They are so friggen bad but only against the Giants
RE: so  
JohnF : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16295088 Eric from BBI said:
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we OK with the defense for one more week?


I know a lot of people on the board won't be happy with this, but with at least adequate play from QB, the Giants may go on a mini win streak. The Patriots are beatable if the defense plays well.
RE: so  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16295088 Eric from BBI said:
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we OK with the defense for one more week?


Haha. Yeah is Wink still getting fired in January?

I’ll tell you who should never sniff another DC job. Jack Del Rio. Woof.
Giants fall from the #2 pick to the #5  
NYerInMA : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
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RE: Rivera was probably going to be canned after this year  
AnnapolisMike : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16295075 JohnF said:
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But letting a really bad Giants team beat them this way seals the deal. The question is who are the Commanders going after?


How are 6 turnovers on the HC? Likely canned after Dallas game Thursday.
Cardinals, Bears and Panthers all lost.  
bceagle05 : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
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Maybe  
g56blue10 : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
tommy is our future back up QB. He does some things pretty well
RE: RE: so  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16295109 JohnF said:
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we OK with the defense for one more week?



I know a lot of people on the board won't be happy with this, but with at least adequate play from QB, the Giants may go on a mini win streak. The Patriots are beatable if the defense plays well.


The Commanders dogged it today. Pats are coming off their bye. I see a loss next week.
No point wasting energy over draft position  
Sean : 11/19/2023 4:15 pm : link
The coaches and players will always play to win. It's just the reality.

My takeaway is DeVito throwing for 3 TD's, that hasn't happened since 2019 - incredible. This defense will feast on bad QB's.
Still 6 more games.  
Simms11 : 11/19/2023 4:16 pm : link
I’d love to see a win against the Eagles. That would make my season. Let the draft fall where it will. We’ll have a very good pick regardless. We need tons of help.
want  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/19/2023 4:16 pm : link
to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.
RE: RE: RE: the Commanders  
section125 : 11/19/2023 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16295106 k2tampa said:
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just won't let us have high draft picks



Worked out well last time, didn't it?



Down to 5th now, possibly as low as 12th if they beat the Pats (have to see how many of the 4 win teams play each other).


Can we say that they could eff up a wet dr#*m?
Saw it coming  
The_Boss : 11/19/2023 4:16 pm : link
Washington lets an awful NYG team sweep them. Magic should fire Rivera tonight…
Washington  
AcidTest : 11/19/2023 4:16 pm : link
literally gave the game away. Six turnovers, and it should have been seven. And despite the first five, they still had a chance to win at the end.

DeVito was decent. Some nice throws, but holds the ball way too long, which I guess is to be expected given his inexperience. The OL was putrid. No running game until the end. Bad play calling with passes that required deep drops.

Defense got gashed, especially when Lawrence was out. But it was opportunistic.
RE  
Gee Men Fan : 11/19/2023 4:17 pm : link
Cmon with Devito. I want to move on from Jones, but he would have cut up this defense today
RE: want  
JT039 : 11/19/2023 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16295124 Eric from BBI said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.


Didn’t you just say last week you were impressed with him?

The dude is terrible. We want Washington to keep him. Lol
RE: Giants fall from the #2 pick to the #5  
jnoble : 11/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16295111 NYerInMA said:
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YOU PLAY. TO WIN. THE GAME!!!
RE: Giants fall from the #2 pick to the #5  
prdave73 : 11/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16295111 NYerInMA said:
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I don't like when my Giants lose, but they need to this season in order to improve this teams talent. Unfortunately, the Giants Org are special and somehow keep putting themselves in bad positions.
I want the hig pick....BUT  
edavisiii : 11/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
I cant sit there hoping they lose. Good win.... Washington cant beat us. There young QB made too many mistake!
Rivera  
Gee Men Fan : 11/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
Rivera is dead man walking
Only good news draftwise today  
redwhiteandbigblue : 11/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
was Packers won. We also need Rams to lose today.
Thibodeaux is turning into a legit force.  
bceagle05 : 11/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
Biggest positive from this entire shitty season.
RE: want  
Sean : 11/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16295124 Eric from BBI said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.

Yep. WSH goes to Dallas on Thanksgiving while the Giants host the Pats. Good chance the Giants are in 3rd next week.

Schoen better be prepared to trade up.
We might own WSH just as much as Philly owns us,  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
which is really sayimg something.
You still want to fire Wink  
Beef Wellington : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
you assholes!!
Don't bemoan our drop in the Tankathon standings too much.  
BigBlueNH : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
We don't get to play the Commanders again, I doubt any of our remaining opponents turn over the ball 6 times, and we'll still have problems winning games with this OL without a big turnover margin.
Nice win  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
Quite the lopsided turnover battle. UDFA QB gets a win. Nice moment for DeVito and the team.
Giants  
Archer : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
The Giants are at their best in meaningless games.
Sorry,  
redwhiteandbigblue : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
We need a Rams WIN
It  
Toth029 : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
Isn't a one QB draft. Some need to relax.
RE: Maybe  
jnoble : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16295115 g56blue10 said:
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tommy is our future back up QB. He does some things pretty well


What I like about him and we saw it in preseason is even for an undrafted walk on he has the demeanor and attitude of someone who's been around for a while he doesn't look scared or have that deer in the headlights look or make panic throws
*saying  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
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RE: want  
prdave73 : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16295124 Eric from BBI said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.


Exactly.. 100% I just feel this Org will screw this up too.. smh
Can we please not bring  
cjac : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
The fighting to this thread
Love the win  
JerseyCityJoe : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
Can't bring myself not to root for them to win. Draft position be dammed.
RE: Rivera  
Dnew15 : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16295136 Gee Men Fan said:
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Rivera is dead man walking


Yikes…
RE: No point wasting energy over draft position  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16295119 Sean said:
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The coaches and players will always play to win. It's just the reality.

My takeaway is DeVito throwing for 3 TD's, that hasn't happened since 2019 - incredible. This defense will feast on bad QB's.


Schoen picking up that 2nd and a 5th for Leo will open up flexibility to either us it to trade up or take the next tier guy. We are going to take a QB just a question of whom and when.

It is what it is. There’s some ER and WR talent we desperately could use. And can’t rule out an OT like Alt.
RE: Can we please not bring  
Route 9 : 11/19/2023 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16295154 cjac said:
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The fighting to this thread


Fuck that lol
RE: RE: want  
section125 : 11/19/2023 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16295141 Sean said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.


Yep. WSH goes to Dallas on Thanksgiving while the Giants host the Pats. Good chance the Giants are in 3rd next week.

Schoen better be prepared to trade up.


There will be better QBs in the later 1st or 2nd round than Jones..even if it is Bo Nix.
Things happen for a reason. Trust the process!
RE: It  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/19/2023 4:21 pm : link
In comment 16295150 Toth029 said:
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Isn't a one QB draft. Some need to relax.


Problem is there are teams currently in front of us who aren’t trading out of those picks for any package.

Sy has gotten me on the Jayden Daniels bandwagon, but beyond that it begins to look like variations of Sam Howell.
No offense to Tyrod  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 4:22 pm : link
But DeVito deserves to play after the bye.
RE: RE: want  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/19/2023 4:22 pm : link
In comment 16295132 JT039 said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.



Didn’t you just say last week you were impressed with him?

The dude is terrible. We want Washington to keep him. Lol


Howell's worst two games in the past 5-6 weeks were against the Giants. He's been pretty darn good otherwise. Pay attention.
Does this mean the Giants won't be drafting a good QB  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 4:23 pm : link
next year? If so this win does not really feel good.
Also, if you want Daboll to work here  
Sean : 11/19/2023 4:23 pm : link
Wins like this are important. Not sure he could withstand a 2-15 season.
RE: RE: RE: want  
section125 : 11/19/2023 4:23 pm : link
In comment 16295174 Eric from BBI said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.



Didn’t you just say last week you were impressed with him?

The dude is terrible. We want Washington to keep him. Lol



Howell's worst two games in the past 5-6 weeks were against the Giants. He's been pretty darn good otherwise. Pay attention.


Is it Howell, or is it Rivera who doesn't seem able to beat the Giants.
RE: RE: RE: want  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/19/2023 4:24 pm : link
In comment 16295174 Eric from BBI said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.



Didn’t you just say last week you were impressed with him?

The dude is terrible. We want Washington to keep him. Lol



Howell's worst two games in the past 5-6 weeks were against the Giants. He's been pretty darn good otherwise. Pay attention.


You’re correct, but he’s so bad against the Giants that it’s difficult to believe that he’d be good against anyone.
Congratulations Tommy DeVito  
Rick in Dallas : 11/19/2023 4:24 pm : link
Don’t you wish we could play Washington every week…
The Cards and Bears are showing signs of life  
cosmicj : 11/19/2023 4:24 pm : link
It’s still mid November. Relax.
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Banks : 11/19/2023 4:24 pm : link
A win feels good. Plus I'm having fun talking tash to commie fans right now
RE: Also, if you want Daboll to work here  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/19/2023 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16295179 Sean said:
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Wins like this are important. Not sure he could withstand a 2-15 season.


I don’t think he was getting fired at all. The effort was more the issue than the results.
RE: want  
k2tampa : 11/19/2023 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16295124 Eric from BBI said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.


Yep, think of the QBs in the division if Washington gets Williams, Maye or Daniels.
RE: Also, if you want Daboll to work here  
Costy16 : 11/19/2023 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16295179 Sean said:
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Wins like this are important. Not sure he could withstand a 2-15 season.


It's important to see the team not quitting on the coach.
RE: want  
Giants86 : 11/19/2023 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16295124 Eric from BBI said:
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to win, but I also don't want Washington moving ahead of us for the QB.


By next Sunday night they will be
RE: Also, if you want Daboll to work here  
BigTymer : 11/19/2023 4:27 pm : link
In comment 16295179 Sean said:
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Wins like this are important. Not sure he could withstand a 2-15 season.


+1
We did a great job on McLaurin today.  
BigBlueNH : 11/19/2023 4:27 pm : link
5 catches for just 43 yards. Not sure if it was Banks all day. Looked like we played a fair bit of zone. Banks has been a big plus this year.
Next week has some big tankathon atchupd  
cosmicj : 11/19/2023 4:27 pm : link
Patriots v Giants
Panthers v Titans
Cardinals v Rams
RE: Does this mean the Giants won't be drafting a good QB  
k2tampa : 11/19/2023 4:29 pm : link
In comment 16295178 Arcade_Games said:
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next year? If so this win does not really feel good.


Not one of the top 3 anyway.
Saquon is a guy I'd like to see re-signed.  
Optimus-NY : 11/19/2023 4:31 pm : link
He's a vet now that these young guys can lean on. Just gotta manage his carries/touches so as not to burn him out in this lost season as well as going forward (hopefully).
RE: Next week has some big tankathon atchupd  
Optimus-NY : 11/19/2023 4:32 pm : link
In comment 16295212 cosmicj said:
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Patriots v Giants
Panthers v Titans
Cardinals v Rams


*THIS*
RE: RE: Does this mean the Giants won't be drafting a good QB  
UConn4523 : 11/19/2023 4:33 pm : link
In comment 16295216 k2tampa said:
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next year? If so this win does not really feel good.



Not one of the top 3 anyway.


Are you going to just keep doing this incessantly? We aren’t going to forfeit games, what are you expecting here? And other teams will play and win games too, you have no idea where we will be picking.

Oh and trades happen to move up in drafts, not sure if you knew that but now you do.
RE: Next week has some big tankathon atchupd  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/19/2023 4:33 pm : link
In comment 16295212 cosmicj said:
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Patriots v Giants
Panthers v Titans
Cardinals v Rams


I’m confident in a loss to the Pats.

Our ownership of the Commanders was just too strong of a force to be denied.
A fan threw a Bud Light at Isaiah Simmons  
bluefin : 11/19/2023 4:33 pm : link
not cool
RE: RE: Does this mean the Giants won't be drafting a good QB  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 4:34 pm : link
In comment 16295216 k2tampa said:
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next year? If so this win does not really feel good.



Not one of the top 3 anyway.

We're going to be stuck w Daniel Jones them . I am sure Mara is happry because he didn't want to draft a QB anyway and, this is the perfect excuse to run it back againw Daniel jones who throws for less yards than Danny devito.



RE: We did a great job on McLaurin today.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/19/2023 4:34 pm : link
In comment 16295209 BigBlueNH said:
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5 catches for just 43 yards. Not sure if it was Banks all day. Looked like we played a fair bit of zone. Banks has been a big plus this year.


Oddest thing. He cooks the Eagles every time and doesn’t seem to make much of a difference against the Giants, even when his numbers aren’t bad.
RE: The Cards and Bears are showing signs of life  
Optimus-NY : 11/19/2023 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16295191 cosmicj said:
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It’s still mid November. Relax.



Agreed. The Bears got their QB back today too.
RE: RE: RE: RE: want  
Banks : 11/19/2023 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16295182 section125 said:
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Is it Howell, or is it Rivera who doesn't seem able to beat the Giants.

We are 15-6-1 in the past decade. 32-15-1 since 2000. They just struggle against us like we do against the eagles
RE: RE: Next week has some big tankathon atchupd  
Sammo85 : 11/19/2023 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16295235 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Patriots v Giants
Panthers v Titans
Cardinals v Rams



I’m confident in a loss to the Pats.

Our ownership of the Commanders was just too strong of a force to be denied.


As am I. Belichick defense with 2 weeks to prepare. Mac Jones might legit be playing for his NFL life also.

And as nice as this felt I can see a let down game from DeVito and the defense both.
 
ryanmkeane : 11/19/2023 4:35 pm : link
I can’t imagine being a Washington fan.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/19/2023 4:36 pm : link

Charlotte Carroll
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Breaking lol: #giants locker room has no water for showers
Giants will be ok as long as they finish in the top 2.  
Optimus-NY : 11/19/2023 4:36 pm : link
Williams or Maye will be improvements over DJ at QB (Maye is my preference though). Lots of season left to play yet.
RE: Worst Giants win ever  
ryanmkeane : 11/19/2023 4:37 pm : link
In comment 16295072 Dnew15 said:
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People said that when we “lost out” on Chase Young.
RE: ...  
Optimus-NY : 11/19/2023 4:37 pm : link
In comment 16295252 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll
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Breaking lol: #giants locker room has no water for showers


LMAO!
RE: A fan threw a Bud Light at Isaiah Simmons  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/19/2023 4:39 pm : link
In comment 16295236 bluefin said:
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not cool


Also the most accurate pass thrown by someone in a Commander’s uniform today.
RE: RE: Worst Giants win ever  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 4:40 pm : link
In comment 16295256 ryanmkeane said:
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People said that when we “lost out” on Chase Young.



People say dumb shit all the time. You are comparing Apples to Oranges.

People think Daniel Jones will wina SB like Eli did even though we;re already past that point. People think Daniel Jones wil right the ship like Phil Simms did -- we are past that point also.
Good to win  
bc4life : 11/19/2023 4:41 pm : link
Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.
I will never apologize for reveling in beating the Skins  
Greg from LI : 11/19/2023 4:41 pm : link
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If they fall back far enough  
bc4life : 11/19/2023 4:43 pm : link
so they cannot get their guy - wonder how many picks they could add with a trade back.
Divito 3 TD, no INT and a 137.7 Quarterback Rating  
US1 Giants : 11/19/2023 4:44 pm : link
Is this a dream?
RE: Good to win  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 4:45 pm : link
In comment 16295277 bc4life said:
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.


I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.
RE: RE: Good to win  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 4:46 pm : link
In comment 16295298 Arcade_Games said:
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.



I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.


They absolutely should have beat the Jets. They almost did with a 3rd string rookie QB.
Scary thing?  
redwhiteandbigblue : 11/19/2023 4:46 pm : link
There are currently (4) teams with 3 wins and (7) teams with 4 wins.

We are 1 win away from possibly picking as low as 14th!
RE: RE  
joeinpa : 11/19/2023 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16295094 Gee Men Fan said:
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Lord, this team would F up a bread sandwich


What did you expect? That they would lose their las 7 games! That s on you not the team. These guys showed today they haven’t stopped competing.

This is what happens when you begin depending on losses with 40’some % of a season left.

Don’t be mad at the team
 
ryanmkeane : 11/19/2023 4:48 pm : link
Daboll should be 2-2 with a third string QB who basically didn’t throw a pass in his first game
RE: …  
cjac : 11/19/2023 4:49 pm : link
In comment 16295248 ryanmkeane said:
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I can’t imagine being a Washington fan.


Or Cleveland, or the Lions
RE: RE: Worst Giants win ever  
Eman11 : 11/19/2023 4:49 pm : link
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People said that when we “lost out” on Chase Young.


Haha, said that earlier in the other thread.

What if the NYG fell out of the top 3-4 and ended up with a stud like the TE Bowers? Sure he’s not as impactful as a top QB but he might be the closest thing to 89 as ever entered the draft. He’d look great in Blue .

Trade up with future picks and the 2’s if a QB is a must but don’t ever turn down a top talent, no matter the position. You can never have enough really good players.
RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 4:49 pm : link
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.



I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.



They absolutely should have beat the Jets. They almost did with a 3rd string rookie QB.


You know you go on with your weird hard-on for the Jets I have better things to do. I am sorry that there are some really obnoxious Jets fans in your particular area ; I know some that I consider to be decent people. And that 3rd string rookie does not look that much different than our overdrafted, overpaid #6 overall draft pick.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 4:50 pm : link
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.



I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.



They absolutely should have beat the Jets. They almost did with a 3rd string rookie QB.



You know you go on with your weird hard-on for the Jets I have better things to do. I am sorry that there are some really obnoxious Jets fans in your particular area ; I know some that I consider to be decent people. And that 3rd string rookie does not look that much different than our overdrafted, overpaid #6 overall draft pick.


Exactly, and they had them beat with a 3rd string rookie QB. Says it all, really.
TDV sustained those sacks without too much  
Stephen in Sofla : 11/19/2023 4:51 pm : link
damage. Gotta think DJFC would have taken at least 1 severe blow.

TDFC scrambled and got caught, not sacked/drilled/annihilated, for many of them.

So, good?
The hand wringing over draft position  
M.S. : 11/19/2023 4:51 pm : link

is way, way too precious.

Hey, here's an idea: celebrate the win.
It’s a very good sign for Daboll  
PetesHereNow : 11/19/2023 4:51 pm : link
That they kept fighting. Would have been very easy to lose this game 31-10 as most of us thought 4 hours ago.
RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
blink667 : 11/19/2023 4:52 pm : link
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.



I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.



They absolutely should have beat the Jets. They almost did with a 3rd string rookie QB.


The Giants aren’t picking a QB in the draft considering the state of their O line.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 4:54 pm : link
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.



I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.



They absolutely should have beat the Jets. They almost did with a 3rd string rookie QB.



The Giants aren’t picking a QB in the draft considering the state of their O line.


The Gaints are not picking one because Mara loves Daniel jones like a son -- despite not being a good QB.

Here is a concept: draft a QB and draft some O line players as well! Wow mind blowing stuff right there!
RE: Divito 3 TD, no INT and a 137.7 Quarterback Rating  
widmerseyebrow : 11/19/2023 4:56 pm : link
In comment 16295294 US1 Giants said:
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Is this a dream?


It's definitely a dream for Daniel Jones.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 4:57 pm : link
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Exactly, and they had them beat with a 3rd string rookie QB. Says it all, really.


The fact that DEvito just threw over 250 yards and 3 TDs against the Redskins -- same as Daniel jones does -- which is like the only time Jones ever does throw for 250+ yards and more than 1 TD a game -- should tell you all you need to know about your woulda coulda arguments.;
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
cjac : 11/19/2023 4:57 pm : link
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.



I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.



They absolutely should have beat the Jets. They almost did with a 3rd string rookie QB.



The Giants aren’t picking a QB in the draft considering the state of their O line.



The Gaints are not picking one because Mara loves Daniel jones like a son -- despite not being a good QB.

Here is a concept: draft a QB and draft some O line players as well! Wow mind blowing stuff right there!


The Giants really need to draft some o lineman. Besides, Thomas Neal Schmidts Mekethan Peart Edzudu they haven’t drafted anyone.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
Jay on the Island : 11/19/2023 4:58 pm : link
In comment 16295334 Arcade_Games said:
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The Gaints are not picking one because Mara loves Daniel jones like a son -- despite not being a good QB.

Here is a concept: draft a QB and draft some O line players as well! Wow mind blowing stuff right there!

I would laugh my ass off at this comment in April when the Giants draft a QB but I won't remember who wrote it nor will you joke about how wrong you were.
RE: TDV sustained those sacks without too much  
Thunderstruck27 : 11/19/2023 4:58 pm : link
In comment 16295326 Stephen in Sofla said:
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damage. Gotta think DJFC would have taken at least 1 severe blow.

TDFC scrambled and got caught, not sacked/drilled/annihilated, for many of them.

So, good?


are we just typing DJFC to mean anything now?
RE: The hand wringing over draft position  
jnoble : 11/19/2023 4:58 pm : link
In comment 16295327 M.S. said:
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is way, way too precious.

Hey, here's an idea: celebrate the win.


Hello? Exactly!!!
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 4:59 pm : link
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The Giants really need to draft some o lineman. Besides, Thomas Neal Schmidts Mekethan Peart Edzudu they haven’t drafted anyone.


Oh you are trying to be cute now. Then sign some free agent fucking lineman then.

Tyrod Taylor already showed you that passing behind this line is highly possible. His only problem is getting hurt when running with the football.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
blink667 : 11/19/2023 5:01 pm : link
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.



I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.



They absolutely should have beat the Jets. They almost did with a 3rd string rookie QB.



The Giants aren’t picking a QB in the draft considering the state of their O line.



The Gaints are not picking one because Mara loves Daniel jones like a son -- despite not being a good QB.

Here is a concept: draft a QB and draft some O line players as well! Wow mind blowing stuff right there!


The Giants have 3 QBs and all 3 would be serviceable to above average behind a decent Oline. If you do draft a QB do it in the second round.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 5:04 pm : link
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The Giants have 3 QBs and all 3 would be serviceable to above average behind a decent Oline. If you do draft a QB do it in the second round.


The hell are you talking about?

Daniel Jones is a BELOW AVG. QB.

Tyrod is a journeyman back-up.

DEvito is an undrafted free agent who is a rookie at lie age 25. Who so far is the only real question mark at what we have in a QB. WTF is the point of drafting a QB at all then unless someone like Levis slips late. You might as well play Daniel jones then in week 3 when he is ready then and let him play here for 3 years.
RE: RE: TDV sustained those sacks without too much  
Stephen in Sofla : 11/19/2023 5:06 pm : link
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damage. Gotta think DJFC would have taken at least 1 severe blow.

TDFC scrambled and got caught, not sacked/drilled/annihilated, for many of them.

So, good?



are we just typing DJFC to mean anything now?


In a word, yes.
Sometimes using a word incessantly robs it  
Stephen in Sofla : 11/19/2023 5:08 pm : link
of it meaning, imho.
Eric  
AROCK1000 : 11/19/2023 5:11 pm : link
In comment 16295088 Eric from BBI said:
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we OK with the defense for one more week?

im wuth ya on this...why all the hate towards Wink and our D?
RE: Sometimes using a word incessantly robs it  
section125 : 11/19/2023 5:12 pm : link
In comment 16295375 Stephen in Sofla said:
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of it meaning, imho.


IMHO, using it should be a two week suspension. It is only used to stir up animosity and get under peoples' skins.
I've only got one question...  
BillKo : 11/19/2023 5:16 pm : link
...is that football going to be encased in glass in DeVito's bedroom? :)
The Giants  
Carson53 : 11/19/2023 5:17 pm : link
found their quarterback, Super Bowl next year baby!
All kidding aside, he's a better passer than the backup QB,
and he was running for his life most of the game. They had five sacks in the first quarter alone, he hung in there, give him credit.
RE: A fan threw a Bud Light at Isaiah Simmons  
BillKo : 11/19/2023 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16295236 bluefin said:
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not cool


NYG or WSH? LOL
This team needs a stud  
Mayo2JZ : 11/19/2023 5:18 pm : link
on offense or defense. Just draft BPA
Jones vs Washington  
HardTruth : 11/19/2023 5:20 pm : link
Last year

160 yds 0 TD 0 Int
200 yds 1 TD 0 Int in 5Q

2021

249 yds 1 TD 0 int

2020

112 yds 1 TD 1 int
212 yds 1 TD 0 int

2019

352 yds 5 TD 0 int in 5Q
225 yds 1 TD 2 int

Jones is 5-1-1 in his career vs. Washington. Jones' record against the rest of the NFL: 17-34








RE: This team needs a stud  
bw in dc : 11/19/2023 5:22 pm : link
In comment 16295405 Mayo2JZ said:
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on offense or defense. Just draft BPA


What exactly does that mean anymore? Are BPAs less risky than need picks?

Let me answer for you - no.

If the BPA approach was such a good system, more teams would have better drafts. But they don't because drafting is hard.
First time in my life that I actually was hoping for a Giants loss...  
200711 : 11/19/2023 5:23 pm : link
And this happens.
RE: Giants just have Washington’s number  
Carson53 : 11/19/2023 5:23 pm : link
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It's kinda like the Yanks vs. the Twins, okay back to the late games now...more talk tom.
RE: The Giants  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/19/2023 5:23 pm : link
In comment 16295399 Carson53 said:
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All kidding aside, he's a better passer than the backup QB,


Might be a bit strong. There were plenty of explosive plays when Tyrod was in there.
RE: Giants will be ok as long as they finish in the top 2.  
Rjanyg : 11/19/2023 5:25 pm : link
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Williams or Maye will be improvements over DJ at QB (Maye is my preference though). Lots of season left to play yet.


I really like Maye as well.
DeVito is definitely gonna get laid  
SirLoinOfBeef : 11/19/2023 5:26 pm : link
in this parent's basement tonight!!

RE: RE: The Giants  
Carson53 : 11/19/2023 5:28 pm : link
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All kidding aside, he's a better passer than the backup QB,



Might be a bit strong. There were plenty of explosive plays when Tyrod was in there.
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Not really, I felt that way in the preseason. Taylor is not very accurate. This kid throws a nice ball with time to throw. I rather see DeVito finish the season out.
DeVito  
AcidTest : 11/19/2023 5:30 pm : link
was fine, especially given the porous OL. But as HardTruth said, the Commanders are the one team Jones has owned. He likely therefore would have been just as successful today.

The Giants might win another few games, which if doing so, means we don't get Williams, Maye, or Daniels will make many here furious. I won't be one of them. I root for the Giants to win every game.
At this point  
Carson53 : 11/19/2023 5:30 pm : link
everybody knows what Tyrod Taylor is, he's been in the league a longgg time.
RE: DeVito  
jnoble : 11/19/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16295439 AcidTest said:
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was fine, especially given the porous OL. But as HardTruth said, the Commanders are the one team Jones has owned. He likely therefore would have been just as successful today.

The Giants might win another few games, which if doing so, means we don't get Williams, Maye, or Daniels will make many here furious. I won't be one of them. I root for the Giants to win every game.


Exactly. Try to win every game like you're supposed to do as a professional with any sense of pride and then let the chips fall where they may with the draft months later
It would be cool to get the #1 pick  
mittenedman : 11/19/2023 5:34 pm : link
but there's still 6 games left. I'd much rather the coaches show they are the right people for the job. They had a God awful first 10 games.

We keep hearing Daboll's coming back. I'd like to see evidence that's a good idea.
I like the idea of DeVito finishing out the year  
Matt M. : 11/19/2023 5:34 pm : link
to get as much time as possible. I wouldn't mind him being QB3 again.
RE: RE: RE: The Giants  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/19/2023 5:34 pm : link
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All kidding aside, he's a better passer than the backup QB,



Might be a bit strong. There were plenty of explosive plays when Tyrod was in there.

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Taylor is not very accurate.


This is an "eye test" thing. He completed 65% of his passes this year.

Last time he was a full-time starter (2017) he completed 63%. Accuracy's one of his strengths.
So, this team can't even tank correctly.  
Matt M. : 11/19/2023 5:35 pm : link
Seriously, though, we're still fine. I don't see us falling too far back by the end of the season. We should still be in play for Daniels or McCarthy and possibly still even have a shot at Maye.
RE: It would be cool to get the #1 pick  
jnoble : 11/19/2023 5:36 pm : link
In comment 16295453 mittenedman said:
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but there's still 6 games left. I'd much rather the coaches show they are the right people for the job. They had a God awful first 10 games.

We keep hearing Daboll's coming back. I'd like to see evidence that's a good idea.


The Patriot and Packer games are winnable
RE: So, this team can't even tank correctly.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/19/2023 5:38 pm : link
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Seriously, though, we're still fine. I don't see us falling too far back by the end of the season. We should still be in play for Daniels or McCarthy and possibly still even have a shot at Maye.



Lot of season left. They were gifted 6 turnovers. Hard to lose.
Player acquisition is not responsibility of the team  
Rjanyg : 11/19/2023 5:38 pm : link
But the scouts and the GM.

I want Maye and feel we need to be in the top 2 in order to get him but you need to let the season play out and see where you end up.

Thinking back to 2004, we were drafting 4th and then we’re still able to get the QB they wanted.

It may cost draft picks but that is how it works. I can see Chicago trading back with one of their picks.
Hope this quiets the "Fire Daboll  
SirLoinOfBeef : 11/19/2023 5:39 pm : link
Schoen/Wink/Kafka" crowd.

Enjoy this win.
RE: RE: So, this team can't even tank correctly.  
BillKo : 11/19/2023 5:40 pm : link
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Seriously, though, we're still fine. I don't see us falling too far back by the end of the season. We should still be in play for Daniels or McCarthy and possibly still even have a shot at Maye.




Lot of season left. They were gifted 6 turnovers. Hard to lose.


Did we turn the ball over?

Had a team ever with a +6 ever lost.....but we were in position to do so. Keep that in mind.
Eric’s daughter  
PepperJ52 : 11/19/2023 5:51 pm : link
Glad she got to see a win after making the effort to go to the game! At home on TV, it sounded like at least half a Giants crowd in the stands. CN BBIers who went to the game weigh in on the crowd?
RE: Eric’s daughter  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/19/2023 5:58 pm : link
In comment 16295502 PepperJ52 said:
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Glad she got to see a win after making the effort to go to the game! At home on TV, it sounded like at least half a Giants crowd in the stands. CN BBIers who went to the game weigh in on the crowd?


She's not back yet, but she was pretty stoked. (She went with her Commanders boy friend... so you can tell she was extra motivated too).
Look, Mahomes was a #10 selection......  
Simms11 : 11/19/2023 6:02 pm : link
and there’s plenty others who have excelled picked much later, Lamar Jackson, etc. You have to scout and do research well and have the conviction that you’re picking the right guy. Maye and Williams both have great attributes, but a guy like Daniels also looks like a tremendous QB. Never can tell. We selected Barkley instead of Darnold in that draft and how’d that work out for the Jets who picked him at #3. Let the season play out first and then we can talk draft and who’s available. In the mean time, enjoy the win and that your team played with a desire today. They could have just given up. Will they win another game this year? Who knows, but let it play out and enjoy this win for once in a while.
RE: DeVito is definitely gonna get laid  
cjac : 11/19/2023 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16295432 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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in this parent's basement tonight!!


Does he live with his Mom or his Stepmom?
Worsts  
Josh in MD : 11/19/2023 6:26 pm : link
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Worst Giants win ever
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Worst BBI post ever -- and that's saying a lot.
I thought blocking  
M.S. : 11/19/2023 6:33 pm : link
was Daniel Bellinger’s strength in college.

What happened?
RE: ...  
JoeSchoens11 : 11/19/2023 6:38 pm : link
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Charlotte Carroll
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Breaking lol: #giants locker room has no water for showers
RE: RE: DeVito is definitely gonna get laid  
section125 : 11/19/2023 6:40 pm : link
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in this parent's basement tonight!!




Does he live with his Mom or his Stepmom?


Should be with Zach Wilson's mom's friend
Agree that DeVito should start all remaining games  
Rick in Dallas : 11/19/2023 6:45 pm : link
He needs the reps.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to win  
Wiggy : 11/19/2023 6:49 pm : link
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Glad to see that they are still competing.

We should have beat Bills & Jets. So, Giants should be at at least 5 wins. The draft is the draft. If they fall out of position to get the guy they want, there are plenty of other holes to fill.

Keep in mind, if they get anything other than 1st 2 picks, any team could trade up and grab their guy.



I am so sick of reading this stuff.

A. The Giants should nto be a 5 win team. They should NOT have beat the Jets or the Bills. They are better teams than the Gaints.
B. This is a rare opportunity to get out from Daniel Jone and that horrible contract of which wh'll be stuck with permanaent medicrity. An undrafted free agent just threw for over 250 yards and 3 TDs vs the Washington Commanders like Daniel jones usually does. If that was Daniel jones there would be posters here anoointing this guy a top QB in the NFL.



They absolutely should have beat the Jets. They almost did with a 3rd string rookie QB.



The Giants aren’t picking a QB in the draft considering the state of their O line.



The Gaints are not picking one because Mara loves Daniel jones like a son -- despite not being a good QB.

!
omg show me a shred of proof this is true. People are delusional
RE: Look, Mahomes was a #10 selection......  
Mayo2JZ : 11/19/2023 6:54 pm : link
In comment 16295523 Simms11 said:
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and there’s plenty others who have excelled picked much later, Lamar Jackson, etc. You have to scout and do research well and have the conviction that you’re picking the right guy. Maye and Williams both have great attributes, but a guy like Daniels also looks like a tremendous QB. Never can tell. We selected Barkley instead of Darnold in that draft and how’d that work out for the Jets who picked him at #3. Let the season play out first and then we can talk draft and who’s available. In the mean time, enjoy the win and that your team played with a desire today. They could have just given up. Will they win another game this year? Who knows, but let it play out and enjoy this win for once in a while.


THIS!!
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St. Jimmy : 11/19/2023 6:55 pm : link
New York Giants:Philadelphia Eagles::New York Giants:Washington Whatever Name You Want
Won't be surprised if Washington's Ron Rivera is canned  
GFAN52 : 11/19/2023 6:55 pm : link
before the season ends.
RE: RE: ...  
Blue21 : 11/19/2023 6:59 pm : link
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Charlotte Carroll
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Breaking lol: #giants locker room has no water for showers

Coaching staff is thankful. They are in enough hot water already.
RE: RE: RE: DeVito is definitely gonna get laid  
SomeFan : 11/19/2023 7:12 pm : link
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in this parent's basement tonight!!




Does he live with his Mom or his Stepmom?



Should be with Zach Wilson's mom's friend
haha! But isn’t Zach Wilson’s mom’s friend like 26 years old!
can't worry about draft position.  
kelly : 11/19/2023 7:18 pm : link
We have a lot of holes that need filling.
Your brain says lose but the heart says win.  
St. Jimmy : 11/19/2023 7:21 pm : link
I was happy with the outcome. Not so much with some of the other games.
I never  
g56blue10 : 11/19/2023 7:31 pm : link
Hope for loses so I’ve been conflicted. I want one of the top QB’s but a win always feels good. Even we can’t land one of the top 3 guys though I don’t see any of the other ones worth a top 10 pick.
RE: I never  
Mike in NY : 11/19/2023 7:47 pm : link
In comment 16295697 g56blue10 said:
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Hope for loses so I’ve been conflicted. I want one of the top QB’s but a win always feels good. Even we can’t land one of the top 3 guys though I don’t see any of the other ones worth a top 10 pick.


You hope for a win, but are not disappointed if they lose unless it is on some glaringly bonehead call.
All reports are  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 7:47 pm : link
The Bears won’t take a QB. Giants will get one of the 3
RE: RE: Eric’s daughter  
PepperJ52 : 11/19/2023 7:49 pm : link
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Glad she got to see a win after making the effort to go to the game! At home on TV, it sounded like at least half a Giants crowd in the stands. CN BBIers who went to the game weigh in on the crowd?



She's not back yet, but she was pretty stoked. (She went with her Commanders boy friend... so you can tell she was extra motivated too).

Ha! Better yet. At least he’s not a Cowboys or Eagles fan.
RE: RE: Worst Giants win ever  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 11/19/2023 7:57 pm : link
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Great win. Too early to worry about draft pick position and it’s not like either Caleb or Drake have looked like world beaters. Daboll and team needed a W.



Agree.

That was a weird game.
RE: All reports are  
Sean : 11/19/2023 7:58 pm : link
In comment 16295736 ajr2456 said:
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The Bears won’t take a QB. Giants will get one of the 3

Still so long to go, but Bears and Cardinals could stick with their guys. I definitely think the Cardinals do.

Schoen will have to maneuver the draft as needed. That's just the reality of the NFL. I don't care how shitty any team is, you can't go 2-15 on demand.

-Chiefs moved up for Mahomes
-Bills moved up for Allen

It'll be on Schoen to figure it out. But, I think the Jones train left the station if there was any doubt. The 3 passing TD's in a game stat is just unbelievable.
If anything today was big indictment  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 8:03 pm : link
On Jones. First 3 td game in 4 years is wild
RE: RE: All reports are  
wahl35 : 11/19/2023 8:07 pm : link
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The Bears won’t take a QB. Giants will get one of the 3


Still so long to go, but Bears and Cardinals could stick with their guys. I definitely think the Cardinals do.



Even if the Bears keep Fields, they will get some nice offers for that #1 pick and that will be a team going for a QB. Will the Cards go for Harrison Jr if they sick with Murray? Or will they also trade back? As you said, a long way to go
Let's see if Devito can lead this team to a road playoff win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 8:08 pm : link
Oh, wait.
I don’t think the Bears  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 8:11 pm : link
Trade #1 lower than a spot where they can get Harrison.
RE: Won't be surprised if Washington's Ron Rivera is canned  
St. Jimmy : 11/19/2023 8:14 pm : link
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before the season ends.
New ownership isn't keeping him. He really hasn't shown anything as a coach against the "Commanders" play well against the Eagles
RE: Let's see if Devito can lead this team to a road playoff win.  
BigBlueShock : 11/19/2023 8:17 pm : link
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Oh, wait.

Well, in only 2 games he’s got 1/3 of the passing TDs your boy Jones had last season so I’m guessing beating a historically bad defense like the Vikings isn’t impossible.

You literally hate everything. It is so freaking odd that you constantly defend a bad QB that has been heavily involved in one of the darkest periods of Giants football in its history. But again, nobody has ever accused you of being very bright
RE: Let's see if Devito can lead this team to a road playoff win.  
Sean : 11/19/2023 8:19 pm : link
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Oh, wait.

Barkley gets no credit for that win?
RE: RE: Let's see if Devito can lead this team to a road playoff win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 8:20 pm : link
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Barkley gets no credit for that win?


Sure, but Jones gets most of it. He was the best player on the field that day.

Devito has Barkley. Let's see if he can do it.
RE: RE: Let's see if Devito can lead this team to a road playoff win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 8:21 pm : link
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Well, in only 2 games he’s got 1/3 of the passing TDs your boy Jones had last season so I’m guessing beating a historically bad defense like the Vikings isn’t impossible.

You literally hate everything. It is so freaking odd that you constantly defend a bad QB that has been heavily involved in one of the darkest periods of Giants football in its history. But again, nobody has ever accused you of being very bright


Okay, let's see Devito do it, then.

I wouldn't really accuse others of being "angry" or "not very bright", though.

Talk about a lack of self-awareness.
RE: RE: RE: Let's see if Devito can lead this team to a road playoff win.  
BigBlueShock : 11/19/2023 8:23 pm : link
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Barkley gets no credit for that win?



Sure, but Jones gets most of it. He was the best player on the field that day.

Devito has Barkley. Let's see if he can do it.

This is why nobody takes you Jones fan boys seriously. Jones gets all the credit for the wins, as incredibly rare as they’ve been through this career, but when they lose it’s everyone else’s fault. Congratulations to Jones for playing a decent game against a laughable defense. Then got his fucking teeth kicked in the very next week. Once again in embarrassing fashion
RE: RE: RE: RE: Let's see if Devito can lead this team to a road playoff win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/19/2023 8:25 pm : link
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Sure, but Jones gets most of it. He was the best player on the field that day.

Devito has Barkley. Let's see if he can do it.


This is why nobody takes you Jones fan boys seriously. Jones gets all the credit for the wins, as incredibly rare as they’ve been through this career, but when they lose it’s everyone else’s fault. Congratulations to Jones for playing a decent game against a laughable defense. Then got his fucking teeth kicked in the very next week. Once again in embarrassing fashion


I'm more then ready to move on from Jones. Again, with the anger and not being very bright. Now, the road playoff win means nothing, despite the fact that you and others weren't saying that in the offseason and the fact that it's only time this team has looked good in a decade.
RE: RE: RE: Let's see if Devito can lead this team to a road playoff win.  
BigBlueShock : 11/19/2023 8:27 pm : link
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Well, in only 2 games he’s got 1/3 of the passing TDs your boy Jones had last season so I’m guessing beating a historically bad defense like the Vikings isn’t impossible.

You literally hate everything. It is so freaking odd that you constantly defend a bad QB that has been heavily involved in one of the darkest periods of Giants football in its history. But again, nobody has ever accused you of being very bright



Okay, let's see Devito do it, then.

I wouldn't really accuse others of being "angry" or "not very bright", though.

Talk about a lack of self-awareness.

It is amazing that one win against a terrible defense completely wipes away 5 years of mostly complete ineptitude in your mind. It’s almost as if you’re trolling. There’s nothing you don’t bitch about. But you draw the line at….Daniel Jones? Holy shit balls….
RE: If anything today was big indictment  
Walker Gillette : 11/19/2023 8:28 pm : link
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On Jones. First 3 td game in 4 years is wild


10 years from now are you stil going to be
taking every chance you get to denigrate Daniel Jones. The Giants won, Jones is out for the year, give it a rest, please!
RE: RE: If anything today was big indictment  
Arcade_Games : 11/19/2023 9:04 pm : link
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On Jones. First 3 td game in 4 years is wild



10 years from now are you stil going to be
taking every chance you get to denigrate Daniel Jones. The Giants won, Jones is out for the year, give it a rest, please!


oh no no no. You Jonsers are not getting off that easy. Phil Simms / Eli Manning my ass.
RE: RE: If anything today was big indictment  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 9:12 pm : link
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On Jones. First 3 td game in 4 years is wild



10 years from now are you stil going to be
taking every chance you get to denigrate Daniel Jones. The Giants won, Jones is out for the year, give it a rest, please!


You don’t have to read.

The narrative spun on here by the Jones supporters is “why draft a QB, nobody could perform behind this line”. Meanwhile an undrafted rookie did it while getting sacked 9 times.
it was a rare fun one today  
Dankbeerman : 11/19/2023 9:17 pm : link
but the Commanders looked like the team that was tanking. We got embaressed twice by Dallas come in not even limping but dragging broken legs and gave them a beating without playing the best game we could.

Everyone of their supporters were looking to pounce on us and get them back on track. Feels good to shut them up.

Glad Devito got to get 1, I would like to know how the game plan went because we looked so lost on so many plays and then then so well designed on others. was it a mix of old and new? Was it Devito specific scheme that was working or failing?

Deffensively there was an obvious messqge to punch the ball. Was that a rectuon to how Washington plays or was it brought up that if the Offense cant score the D needs to force things. Would love the D to be that ball crazy all the time!
RE: RE: RE: If anything today was big indictment  
joeinpa : 11/19/2023 10:08 pm : link
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On Jones. First 3 td game in 4 years is wild



10 years from now are you stil going to be
taking every chance you get to denigrate Daniel Jones. The Giants won, Jones is out for the year, give it a rest, please!



You don’t have to read.

The narrative spun on here by the Jones supporters is “why draft a QB, nobody could perform behind this line”. Meanwhile an undrafted rookie did it while getting sacked 9 times.


How many games did Jones play behind this line, Thomas and Pugh with Barkley on the field. Be more accurate in your observations
More clear in my observation?  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 10:14 pm : link
With Thomas and Barkley DeVito still got sacked NINE times. Yet was still able to throw for 3 TDs. Somehow he wasn’t Derek Carr’d

He has a third of the passing TDs Jones had all of last in two starts with the same line.

Is that clearer for you?
RE: More clear in my observation?  
Walker Gillette : 11/19/2023 10:24 pm : link
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With Thomas and Barkley DeVito still got sacked NINE times. Yet was still able to throw for 3 TDs. Somehow he wasn’t Derek Carr’d

He has a third of the passing TDs Jones had all of last in two starts with the same line.

Is that clearer for you?


And the beat goes on!
RE: RE: More clear in my observation?  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 10:25 pm : link
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With Thomas and Barkley DeVito still got sacked NINE times. Yet was still able to throw for 3 TDs. Somehow he wasn’t Derek Carr’d

He has a third of the passing TDs Jones had all of last in two starts with the same line.

Is that clearer for you?



And the beat goes on!


Sorry all the excuse you guys have made have blown up this year. Tough day for you guys.
I can’t believe that …  
Ralph.C : 11/19/2023 10:47 pm : link
… I will be willing the Giants win next week and every other of this season in order to piss off other Giants fans.

?????

I’d rather win out than lose out. What the hell does a high draft pick guarantee you anyway? Haven’t we seen enough 1st round busts to show that it really doesn’t mean much where you draft. You can find impact players all throughout the draft if your scouting is good or if you get lucky.

Also, how exactly do you expect the New York Giants to “tank?”
How do you expect the organization to intentionally lose? What is that method? What free agent will want to come here if he knows that a poor season will result in his benching so the team can lose? Do you expect John Mara to reach an agreement with Daboll that they lose out? Do you expect players to play under their ability for the greater good of the team?

Even if they lose out and draft high. What if the high draft selections are a bust? Do you go on and on tanking? Tanking is a ridiculous idea that only serves to disillusion your fan base, the current players on the roster and any future players who might consider coming here via free agency.

Winning is everything. You keep trying to win come what may and draft where ever you draft.

Let’s win next week and keep winning. 6 more games to go.
RE: RE: RE: More clear in my observation?  
Walker Gillette : 11/19/2023 10:55 pm : link
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With Thomas and Barkley DeVito still got sacked NINE times. Yet was still able to throw for 3 TDs. Somehow he wasn’t Derek Carr’d

He has a third of the passing TDs Jones had all of last in two starts with the same line.

Is that clearer for you?



And the beat goes on!



Sorry all the excuse you guys have made have blown up this year. Tough day for you guys.


No you fool, the Giants won today and it's never a tough day when they win. It may be for some who have ridiculous agendas, but I care about the team winning. You are right I don't have to read and I didn't want to look at the posters before I read the posts, but to avoid you and you're ridiculous one trick pony campaign to bring Daniel Jones into every discussion I will now do that!
RE: RE: RE: RE: More clear in my observation?  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 11:00 pm : link
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No you fool, the Giants won today and it's never a tough day when they win. It may be for some who have ridiculous agendas, but I care about the team winning. You are right I don't have to read and I didn't want to look at the posters before I read the posts, but to avoid you and you're ridiculous one trick pony campaign to bring Daniel Jones into every discussion I will now do that!


Maybe you don’t read since you don’t see all the other posts I make.

Daniel Jones’ name was mentioned nearly 40 times before I even posted on this thread by the way.
RE: More clear in my observation?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/19/2023 11:31 pm : link
In comment 16296015 ajr2456 said:
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With Thomas and Barkley DeVito still got sacked NINE times. Yet was still able to throw for 3 TDs. Somehow he wasn’t Derek Carr’d

He has a third of the passing TDs Jones had all of last in two starts with the same line.

Is that clearer for you?


The Washington Commanders are currently dead last in the NFL in points allowed per game this season. They somehow trail a team that allowed 70 points earlier this season. Devito’s previous TD passes came with the team trailing by an average of 31 points.

Interestingly, the fewest points the Commanders allowed this season was to Tyrod Taylor and the Giants.
Dismissing Devitos  
ajr2456 : 11/19/2023 11:37 pm : link
Garbage time TDs if you’re going to ignore that Jones was in garbage time a lot this year and still couldn’t score touchdowns.
At this point the attachment some have to Jones is beyond bizarre  
Greg from LI : 11/20/2023 2:12 am : link
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RE: At this point the attachment some have to Jones is beyond bizarre  
JT039 : 11/20/2023 2:55 am : link
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It’s both sides. It’s just crazy at this point.

It’s over for Jones. It didn’t work out and we basically have one year left with him on the team. Shit happens.

They’re about 20 teams right now in the NFL who are stuck in limbo with QBs who will never be perennial winners. Unfortunately we are one of them. But this obsession on every thread saying the same thing is just weird whether you’re a Jones fan or not.
RE: RE: RE: RE: DeVito is definitely gonna get laid  
section125 : 11/20/2023 5:22 am : link
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Does he live with his Mom or his Stepmom?



Should be with Zach Wilson's mom's friend

haha! But isn’t Zach Wilson’s mom’s friend like 26 years old!


Thought she is 42ish. Best kind for young guy....
RE: RE: RE: RE: If anything today was big indictment  
section125 : 11/20/2023 5:32 am : link
In comment 16296007 joeinpa said:
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The narrative spun on here by the Jones supporters is “why draft a QB, nobody could perform behind this line”. Meanwhile an undrafted rookie did it while getting sacked 9 times.



How many games did Jones play behind this line, Thomas and Pugh with Barkley on the field. Be more accurate in your observations


I am with this. Half or more of DeVito's sacks were on him pulling his "inner Jones" and holding the ball too long or running into it.
But I will give DeVito credit. He truly is improving week by week. While still many times holding the ball too long, he is also most times getting it out accurately and with pace to the open guy. I think he sees the field much better than Jones and will trust what he sees more each week, hence the ball will come out quicker meaning fewer sacks.
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