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Glowinski should start

bigbluewillrise : 11/19/2023 10:43 pm
i would start playing him right away.

we might want to keep him with a restructured lower contract.
we have nothing at G for 2024.

he started out slow, they benched him.
he came back at LG and played well. Moved to RG played well.

Then had a personal issue this past week and didnt play today today. didnt play last week too.

ive seen Pugh, Ezedeu, McKethan, Bredeson, Lemeueix, Mayfield.

hes better than all of them, not saying much, but hes heads and shoulder better.

give bredeson one more start at LG and if he doesnt improve continue to play pugh after the bye.

Bredeson and Pugh are both FA. (so is Lemieux).

I'd like to know  
Bill in UT : 11/19/2023 11:59 pm : link
what the personal reason stuff was about. He'll cost $7M next year. That's a lot of money for a guy they don't seem to have much respect for
RE: I'd like to know  
bigbluewillrise : 11/20/2023 12:14 am : link
In comment 16296077 Bill in UT said:
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what the personal reason stuff was about. He'll cost $7M next year. That's a lot of money for a guy they don't seem to have much respect for


get it down to 4.5 ill bring him back.
I’d prioritize  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/20/2023 6:03 am : link
Keeping Bredeson on a marginal deal over Glowinski. Bredeson is better, younger, more versatile (could play center).
Until the Giants fix  
AnnapolisMike : 11/20/2023 6:23 am : link
the OL, nothing else matters. The Giants can't run a functioning offense. It's not the QB, it is the OL.
RE: Until the Giants fix  
RCPhoenix : 11/20/2023 6:45 am : link
In comment 16296138 AnnapolisMike said:
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the OL, nothing else matters. The Giants can't run a functioning offense. It's not the QB, it is the OL.


It is 100% the QB. DeVito was sacked 9 times and was 18-26 for 246 for 3 TDs. Daniel Jones hasn’t done that in the past 4 years.

I agree the O line needs improvement but the data on Stroud and Burrow suggest otherwise.

In terms of Glowinski, we don’t know what’s happening with him and even before the latest personal issue he seems to have fallen out of favor with the coaching staff.

As to how to improve the OL, I’d look to draft Zinter or Keegan from Michigan with one of the 2nd round picks next year.

And I’d fire Bobby Johnson.
Correct me  
bronxboy : 11/20/2023 6:53 am : link
if I am mistaken, this is a terrible year for free agent OG.
guard  
Hilary : 11/20/2023 7:01 am : link
Giants will draft a guard in round 2 and Neal will be a guard.
RE: I’d prioritize  
section125 : 11/20/2023 7:06 am : link
In comment 16296128 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Keeping Bredeson on a marginal deal over Glowinski. Bredeson is better, younger, more versatile (could play center).


Glowinski is already signed for next year. Bredesen has not improved at all that I can see. At this point I would look elsewhere.
But Bobby J has to go. Not one OL on this team has improved in two years of his coaching.
Glowinski  
Sammo85 : 11/20/2023 7:13 am : link
is likely cut this offseason. I suspect Giants bring in a younger G in FA
RE: Glowinski  
section125 : 11/20/2023 7:21 am : link
In comment 16296163 Sammo85 said:
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is likely cut this offseason. I suspect Giants bring in a younger G in FA


He'd be a $1.5 dead money hit, but $5.7 mill cap savings...they should be able to negotiate that down if they want to keep him.
RE: RE: Glowinski  
Sammo85 : 11/20/2023 7:37 am : link
In comment 16296165 section125 said:
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In comment 16296163 Sammo85 said:


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is likely cut this offseason. I suspect Giants bring in a younger G in FA



He'd be a $1.5 dead money hit, but $5.7 mill cap savings...they should be able to negotiate that down if they want to keep him.


I don’t think they do. It’s structured as an easy cut. That 4.2m variable savings is useful. I suspect they’d keep Bredeson as a utility man in the middle and as depth reserve.
I can't imagine they want to keep him.  
mfjmfj : 11/20/2023 7:40 am : link
He has definitely been part of the problem.

Right now we have a left tackle and hopefully a center.

Evan Neal and Ezedu will be on the team next year, but not sure how much contribution we expect from either.

We potentially need 3 new starters. Yuck.

And a new OL coach.
Giants need consistent and reliable o-line play. They don’t need  
Ivan15 : 11/20/2023 7:51 am : link
Great although it would be nice to have. They haven’t gotten that yet and it doesn’t appear that they will get that from anyone on the team. Too many injuries, too many games where one solid game/one terrible game.

Bredeson may have been harmed by having to be ready for 3 positions. Same with Ezeudu. Both could stay next year until they are beaten out. McKethan too. Glowinski is just an up and down player.

I would be okay with Glowinski finishing the year as a starter but the Giants need to move on from him for sure. The cap saving alone might be worth cuttting him.
Devito  
Giants : 11/20/2023 7:53 am : link
Typical Giants fans over reacting. Yes, when you look at nine sacks and how much he accomplished. Great game for Devito. Now let reasonable reality set in. This was against one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Which traded away its two best pass rushers. So love Devito this week then pay attention to coming weeks. Things for Giants are not going to change until this OL is fixed. Who ever the QB is going to be. He will need a OL that can compete with good defenses. Clearly they cannot do that now
RE: Until the Giants fix  
logman : 11/20/2023 8:13 am : link
In comment 16296138 AnnapolisMike said:
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the OL, nothing else matters. The Giants can't run a functioning offense. It's not the QB, it is the OL.


Yes, the OL still needs work, but it is absolutely also the QB.
Glowinski is awful plus he's ripe for a straight cut with zero  
GMen Fan in NashVegas : 11/20/2023 12:46 pm : link
guaranteed salary in 2024. Bredeson is bad, too, but he's better than Glowinski and he's more versatile, plus he's six years younger. There's zero chance Schoen brings Glowinski back . . lol.

And for someone to say the problem with the Giants' offense is 100% QB and not on the recurring lousy OLine is laughable. Giants do need a new OLine coach who can get something functional out of Evan Neal and the two UNC guards.
Glow must go  
Paulie Walnuts : 11/20/2023 2:19 pm : link
Neal to guard
RE: Until the Giants fix  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/20/2023 2:31 pm : link
In comment 16296138 AnnapolisMike said:
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the OL, nothing else matters. The Giants can't run a functioning offense. It's not the QB, it is the OL.

I don't understand how fans can claim this with absolute certainty but have an allergic reaction to the counterpoint being state with equal certainty.

I suspect it's a matter of having different burdens of proof.

Personally, I look at DJ and I think he has not done enough to prove to me that he is good enough to win a championship. I see flaws and weaknesses that can't sufficiently be covered up simply by building the supporting cast to a level that would allow DJ (or the Giants) to consistently succeed, and I think that near-perfect roster approach is almost impossible to maintain (due to injuries, free agency, retirement, roster churn, etc.) even if a team is lucky enough to nail it.

It seems to me that other fans (maybe you fall into this group, I won't assume that) feel that the surrounding circumstances are such that they can't blame DJ enough to justify replacing him.

But that's fundamentally the disconnect. Some fans are looking for definitive proof that DJ is the answer. And other fans are looking for definitive proof that DJ is NOT the answer. And none of the proof is definitive enough, so round and round we go. Does that seem like a fair assessment of the situation from your viewpoint?
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