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Costy16 : 11/20/2023 9:39 am
Road trip continues in Dallas. Stars are first in the central with 23 points. Another good road test for the Rangers tonight.
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Great test  
Anakim : 11/20/2023 9:50 am : link
Stars are one of the top teams in the NHL.


BTW, who the hell created our schedule? We were out west what? 2 weeks ago.. and then again for one game against the Wild? And now we're back out west/south? Da fuck, man...
High points for me last  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/20/2023 10:22 am : link
year was when the Rangers were getting shutout 1-0, and K'Andre Miller ties it up in the 3rd with 1 second left on the clock. Rangers go into OT and Fox seals it on a scattered play.

I'd really like to see Mika get going. I'm having concerns about him being a true 1C. It's early, but he's not doing much out there 5v5.

Hope Laf keeps it up and continues to improve his stellar play. Also would like to see Kakko doing more than just cardio out there.
Stars are a quality team  
The_Boss : 11/20/2023 10:33 am : link
I put a future’s bet on them winning the Cup in August. Looking forward to this one.
I too am worried  
bluesince56 : 11/20/2023 10:40 am : link
about Mika. He seems lost for some reason
Mika is a very streaky player  
Anakim : 11/20/2023 10:43 am : link
He'll come around
I'm not worried at all about Mika  
ShockNRoll : 11/20/2023 11:54 am : link
In 2020 he had something like 4 points through 20 games, and finished with 50 points in 56 games. He is a notoriously slow starter. I feel like he's doing a lot of good things out there, just seems like his shot is off right now. He will still finish the season around a point a game with 30+ goals while being one of the better two way centers in the game.

I would imagine Igor is in again tonight but no word yet. Stars are very good, my preseason pick to win the West. I expect this game to be one of those games people describe as a "playoff type game". These are two exceptional defensive teams with arguably the two best goalies in the league. Really looking forward to this one.
I know people  
pjcas18 : 11/20/2023 12:01 pm : link
are worried about 5v5, I wouldn't be, but also if you notice on the PP, under Gallant it was all about setting up the Mika one-timer from weak side dot.

Now, under Lavy, that is still an option but I notice Panarin in that spot a lot too but more often they are looking for the point shot from Fox or Miller (or Panarin from up high).

The one-timer is hard to defend when you get the goalie moving, but by creating options (and it's worked so far, Kreider leads the NHL in 6 PPG) you make the PP harder to defend.

Mika is the epitome of a team player and he's near the bottom of the list of things I'd worry about.
RE: Great test  
Victor in CT : 11/20/2023 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16296441 Anakim said:
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Stars are one of the top teams in the NHL.


BTW, who the hell created our schedule? We were out west what? 2 weeks ago.. and then again for one game against the Wild? And now we're back out west/south? Da fuck, man...


True, but for the first time in decades, and one of the few times ever, the Rangers will have backloaded home games in the 2nd half.
Rangers have a shot  
PaulN : 11/20/2023 12:56 pm : link
This team has all the ingredients. First, they have the coach.

Second, they have a tried and true system the coach implemented that works in the NHL, particularly great for slowing down real fast teams, it's roughly a 1-3-1 system. The best news is that the team has taken to it. It's sort of a counter punching type system. It's best for players that think fast or think ahead rather turn players that just skate fast. I think it's a perfect system for these players.

Third we are strong at all 3 levels, we have the forwards, we have the defense, we have the goaltending. We are also proving to have the depth.

When you put all this together, it's a great combination. If you are the type that looks from purely a player talent level. Do we have real stars. We have 3 real stars. Panarin, Fox, and Shesterkin. One for each level. Tge strength of the team is our defensive core. When healthy, Fox/Lindgren is one of the top pairings, the Trouba/Miller pair is one of the best second pairing in the league, and now the Schneider/Gustafsson pairing, which is the biggest surprise, due to the addition of Gustafsson and Schneiders development, we now have 3 very good pairings. Plus Jones has also looked pretty good as a 7th defenseman.
Igor vs. Wedgewood tonight  
ShockNRoll : 11/20/2023 1:42 pm : link
Too bad, but should increase the Rangers chances of getting a win tonight. I was looking forward to an Igor/Oettinger match-up. Curious why DeBoer would decide to hold Oettinger out of this one. I guess they wanted to have him fresh for their game against Vegas Wednesday night.
RE: Rangers have a shot  
Costy16 : 11/20/2023 1:53 pm : link
In comment 16296897 PaulN said:
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This team has all the ingredients. First, they have the coach.

Second, they have a tried and true system the coach implemented that works in the NHL, particularly great for slowing down real fast teams, it's roughly a 1-3-1 system. The best news is that the team has taken to it. It's sort of a counter punching type system. It's best for players that think fast or think ahead rather turn players that just skate fast. I think it's a perfect system for these players.

Third we are strong at all 3 levels, we have the forwards, we have the defense, we have the goaltending. We are also proving to have the depth.

When you put all this together, it's a great combination. If you are the type that looks from purely a player talent level. Do we have real stars. We have 3 real stars. Panarin, Fox, and Shesterkin. One for each level. Tge strength of the team is our defensive core. When healthy, Fox/Lindgren is one of the top pairings, the Trouba/Miller pair is one of the best second pairing in the league, and now the Schneider/Gustafsson pairing, which is the biggest surprise, due to the addition of Gustafsson and Schneiders development, we now have 3 very good pairings. Plus Jones has also looked pretty good as a 7th defenseman.


Agree with alot of this. Especially the part about having a system. There is finally structure, and that is something they didn't have with Gallant. Don't discount either that this is probably one of the most complete coaching staffs they've ever had.
RE: Igor vs. Wedgewood tonight  
Anakim : 11/20/2023 1:56 pm : link
In comment 16296963 ShockNRoll said:
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Too bad, but should increase the Rangers chances of getting a win tonight. I was looking forward to an Igor/Oettinger match-up. Curious why DeBoer would decide to hold Oettinger out of this one. I guess they wanted to have him fresh for their game against Vegas Wednesday night.


That's exactly what it is. Vegas is a more important game to them than tonight's.
FYI, Ben Harpur is out for the season.  
Anakim : 11/20/2023 1:57 pm : link
Got injured in Hartford.
RE: FYI, Ben Harpur is out for the season.  
ShockNRoll : 11/20/2023 4:00 pm : link
In comment 16296999 Anakim said:
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Got injured in Hartford.


This is too bad, I like Harpur and thought he filled in admirably when called upon last year. Hope he can make a fast and full recovery, he's a solid depth option.
RE: RE: FYI, Ben Harpur is out for the season.  
Stufftherun : 11/20/2023 5:42 pm : link
In comment 16297249 ShockNRoll said:
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In comment 16296999 Anakim said:


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Got injured in Hartford.



This is too bad, I like Harpur and thought he filled in admirably when called upon last year. Hope he can make a fast and full recovery, he's a solid depth option.


Couldn’t agree mor.

In particular I enjoyed him jackhammering Corey Perry last season!
My God...  
Rob in Rockaway : 11/20/2023 8:20 pm : link
Like Dragline said - "Lord don't strike me blind now"
....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/20/2023 8:44 pm : link
That was a dominant period. Laf had three great chances.
RE: ....  
Greg from LI : 11/20/2023 8:54 pm : link
In comment 16297584 BrettNYG10 said:
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That was a dominant period. Laf had three great chances.


Yep. One of the best periods they played this season, considering the strength of the opponent.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/20/2023 8:58 pm : link
I'm really impressed with the forecheck.
Bah  
Greg from LI : 11/20/2023 9:26 pm : link
Ill advised pass by Vesey gets the Stars on the board with a 3 on 1.
Kakko  
Costy16 : 11/20/2023 9:40 pm : link
Nice to see him get on the score sheet.
Another sloppy second period  
Rick in Dallas : 11/20/2023 9:50 pm : link
Hope they play a stronger faster third period
It wasn’t a bad period  
Greg from LI : 11/20/2023 9:51 pm : link
Not as strong as the first, no, but they played the Stars pretty even in that one
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/20/2023 10:08 pm : link
That should be a goal.
No way we end  
Stufftherun : 11/20/2023 10:10 pm : link
up on the right end of that call.
I didn't even understand the initial call.  
Mad Mike : 11/20/2023 10:10 pm : link
Seemed pretty clean.
Yup  
ciggy : 11/20/2023 10:10 pm : link
That’s a goal for sure
RE: .....  
Servo 2.0 : 11/20/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16297672 BrettNYG10 said:
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That should be a goal.


Rest assured they will get this one right.
What a stupid penalty for Goodrow to take, too  
Greg from LI : 11/20/2023 10:11 pm : link
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RE: What a stupid penalty for Goodrow to take, too  
Servo 2.0 : 11/20/2023 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16297677 Greg from LI said:
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Yup, completely careless.
RE: I didn't even understand the initial call.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/20/2023 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16297674 Mad Mike said:
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Seemed pretty clean.


I think the ref thought he had it under his glove and that Marchment hit his glove to knock it in.
Good test  
ciggy : 11/20/2023 10:15 pm : link
To see how they deal with a little adversity
Jones and Schneider are atrocious.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/20/2023 10:16 pm : link
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I guess we had  
Stufftherun : 11/20/2023 10:16 pm : link
this slop coming eventually.
Very frustrating game  
Anakim : 11/20/2023 10:16 pm : link
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Good lord that was a Keystone Kops effort by Schneider  
Greg from LI : 11/20/2023 10:17 pm : link
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Weird game  
ciggy : 11/20/2023 10:26 pm : link
Rangers had so many grade A chances that they could not convert
Stars skating much faster with  
Rick in Dallas : 11/20/2023 10:28 pm : link
A lot of congestion in front of Igor
IMV, they took the game over in second period
Agree  
ciggy : 11/20/2023 10:33 pm : link
And that Vesey turnover really completely changed the momentum.

Tough break. But I guess they were due to lose one.
Say good night Gracie  
ciggy : 11/20/2023 10:35 pm : link
..
Very frustrating game that was similar to the Wild game except  
Anakim : 11/20/2023 10:35 pm : link
that we're not getting a point out of this one.


Alright, regroup and focus on Wednesday
Somehow Rangers need to get this first line producing  
Rick in Dallas : 11/20/2023 10:39 pm : link
Very frustrating watching Zibanejad this season.
He’s a different player imv.
Defensive positioning was poor tonight
We had our chances. We had some really good chances.  
Anakim : 11/20/2023 10:39 pm : link
And we had a two-goal lead. Just couldn't maintain it.
Really starting to think that PJ is right  
Greg from LI : 11/20/2023 10:53 pm : link
Replacing Schneider with a steady vet damn is critical. He’s just so erratic.
Dman not damn obviously  
Greg from LI : 11/20/2023 10:54 pm : link
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Greg  
bronxboy : 11/21/2023 5:40 am : link
What is the story with Matthew Robertson. Ever going to be even a third pair Dman?
I’m really trying hard to like Jones  
Rick in Dallas : 11/21/2023 6:05 am : link
He is playing with more confidence but last night his size was an issue.
Stars took advantage of his size when he was on the ice.
Robertson just hasn’t developed the way they expected  
Greg from LI : 11/21/2023 7:27 am : link
He’s a big kid but doesn’t play physical and he doesn’t contribute much offensively either. I have no idea how he’s been playing in Hartford this year, but this is his third go-round in the A. Never a good sign.
luckily I fell asleep during the 2nd intermission  
Victor in CT : 11/21/2023 8:02 am : link
thought they had a win.
Frustrating loss  
ShockNRoll : 11/21/2023 9:06 am : link
but they were not going to get a point in every game the rest of the year. To me this game came down to 3 things. 1. Igor letting pucks squeak through him (which he allowed 2 last game too). 2. Rangers had 3 breakaway chances and didn't score on any. In fact, I don't think they've scored on a breakaway all season. 3. They missed the net on a number of opportunities.

I'm definitely not freaking out about Zibanejad, he generally starts the year slowly, but basically they lost this game because the Stars big guns finished on their chances and ours didn't. The Rangers played a pretty good game in my opinion, until the wheels fell off in the 3rd period. Jones and Schneider had another really rough night. Either way, it's hard to be mad at a team who hadn't lost a game in regulation in over a month. No shame in losing on the road to one of the best teams in the league. Go take care of the Pens and it's all good.
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