What are realistic expectations for the o-line in 2024?

and use one of the 2nd round picks on a versatile OL that can play T, but could also shift into G. Best between rookie and Neal at RT wins that job. Other one is favorite to play G

Starters: Thomas, Neal, JMS, FA G, rookie RT

backups: top 4-5 of McKethan, Ezuedu, Phillips, Bredeson, Pugh, Harlow, whatever else they bring in

In comment 16298026 KDavies said:

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and use one of the 2nd round picks on a versatile OL that can play T, but could also shift into G. Best between rookie and Neal at RT wins that job. Other one is favorite to play G Starters: Thomas, Neal, JMS, FA G, rookie RT backups: top 4-5 of McKethan, Ezuedu, Phillips, Bredeson, Pugh, Harlow, whatever else they bring in

This is a reasonable approach. It would be nice to turn that Seattle second rounder into a starting guard or tackle.

He has played a very good LT for Washington but may even be better at LG in the NFL
I have watched several Huskies games this year and Fautanu is rock solid.

In comment 16298026 KDavies said:

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and use one of the 2nd round picks on a versatile OL that can play T, but could also shift into G. Best between rookie and Neal at RT wins that job. Other one is favorite to play G Starters: Thomas, Neal, JMS, FA G, rookie RT backups: top 4-5 of McKethan, Ezuedu, Phillips, Bredeson, Pugh, Harlow, whatever else they bring in

I agree with the starters but I think we’ve seen enough of both McKethan and Ezeudu to know they aren’t the answer… and they should be able to upgrade over Phillips.

One of the second rounders and a legit FA. Guessing they give Neal one more year to figure it out.

In comment 16298045 bceagle05 said:

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One of the second rounders and a legit FA. Guessing they give Neal one more year to figure it out.

This seems pretty reasonable as to a plan.

Would probably put another swing Tackle on roster too if able.

Draft the best DL, WR, LB available. Hopefully the Giants get lucky and draft at least 2 olinemen that are in the same class with Thomas and JMS.

In comment 16298026 KDavies said:

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and use one of the 2nd round picks on a versatile OL that can play T, but could also shift into G. Best between rookie and Neal at RT wins that job. Other one is favorite to play G Starters: Thomas, Neal, JMS, FA G, rookie RT backups: top 4-5 of McKethan, Ezuedu, Phillips, Bredeson, Pugh, Harlow, whatever else they bring in

You can either move Neal inside to G or let him compete at RT but cant do both. Decision needs to be made after the draft.

before his injury. No way do they move him off RT yet.

However putting a solid veteran RG next to him like FA Mike Onwenu from NE to give him a reliable veteran partner to lean on will help his development

I think LG goes to winner of Ezeudu/Mckethan/Rookie.

I think we need a veteran swing tackle though behind AT.

In comment 16298119 Rory said:

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However putting a solid veteran RG next to him like FA Mike Onwenu from NE to give him a reliable veteran partner to lean on will help his development

I’ve brought him up a couple of times. I think he’ll be at the top of our FA priority list. Hopefully he performs well this weekend, like Okereke did against us last year for Indy.

Good linemen are in short supply so they don't make it to FA. You have to overpay for a mediocre one.

If you are lucky you can add a starter in round 2. Of course that'll be a rookie undergoing the growing pains. Best chance for improvement is coaching up what we have ..... which hasn't gone well of late.

Draft a player in the second who has flexibility and can play both tackle and guard. Sign at least one guard.
Then let them compete to see who wins the battle to start.

I don't think that you can speculate that Neal will be the starting tackle and for that matter he may not be a suitable guard. His foot speed is so slow. I don't know if he can pull.

The only absolutes are Neal and Schmitz.

I don't trust any if the reserves and I think that the Giants need to have competition at all of the positions.

-Sign competent guards to compete for starting jobs
-Try to identify good OL talent in draft
-Value adds at OT in FA
-Neal improvement

This team and particularly the OLine, have performed, how can you have expectations other then bad feelings. Until we have a good or at least consistent OLine for at least 2 consecutive years, there is no way to even ask anyone, what thier expectations are, unless you like hearing us spout off bullshit. That we all do with expertise and precision. Particularly myself.

I see a lot of him because my daughter attends. This man moves people.

Based on a decade of results, more of the same, just pure crap in 2024.

The entire team is a non-entity until this miserable unit gets fixed.

We've got Andrew Thomas at LT, a developing Center in John Michael Schmidt and then nothing else to hang our hat on. We've got 3 positions to fill and no one certain on this current roster to fill them. Hoping Evan Neal can be an answer at one of the Guard positions.

This is still a pretty desperate situation.

can it?

Shift Neal inside, draft a natural right tackle and add some depth in free agency.

Unfortunately there's only 1 good OG available in free agency and that's Onwenu, he might be too expensive for Schoen's liking.

In comment 16298080 Jack Stroud said:

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Draft the best DL, WR, LB available. Hopefully the Giants get lucky and draft at least 2 olinemen that are in the same class with Thomas and JMS.

JMS is not in the same class as Thomas

Expect the same crap next year. Our 2 biggest needs are a qb and a competent o line coach

In comment 16298026 KDavies said:

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and use one of the 2nd round picks on a versatile OL that can play T, but could also shift into G. Best between rookie and Neal at RT wins that job. Other one is favorite to play G Starters: Thomas, Neal, JMS, FA G, rookie RT backups: top 4-5 of McKethan, Ezuedu, Phillips, Bredeson, Pugh, Harlow, whatever else they bring in

Sign me up.

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good OL players normally doing hit FA You have to find
that " Gem " a second tier guy who is good but blocked by a guy who is better.

In comment 16298045 bceagle05 said:

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One of the second rounders and a legit FA. Guessing they give Neal one more year to figure it out.

This sounds reasonable.

Maybe Willie Anderson would consider coming in for that job! He was a pro bowl tackle who also has a relationship with Neal! I think he would b potentially a huge upgrade over Johnson!

In comment 16298504 blueblood said:

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good OL players normally doing hit FA You have to find that " Gem " a second tier guy who is good but blocked by a guy who is better.

This is something i think people don't consider, or maybe see past too quickly. I see people all the time that get giddy about hoarding money, cap dollars etc, but I often think for whom. Good players don't get to FA anymore. they may get traded, and that is a use for that money if you choose to go that route. That does take 2 to tango, tho.

as far as OL, WE got Glowinski for 7 million. He's not even starting. I feel like a plus guard - should you even have a chance at 1 is going to be 15 + mil..

We have taken care of some of our own (2 vital cogs in sexy and AT) and will still have a surplus.

I would be all for spending the money on OL if they found a worthwhile player. I just think that is increasingly rare.

OTOH there should be no hesitation to spend whatever it takes for a great OL coach. While that is uncapped, i think the ROI on that is much better. I know munchak is a FA, but i would also poach the hell out of other staffs. Solve the problem

Has given up on Ezeudu already. He should be one of the starters at Guard next season. He will be a solid player.

They either suck or are constantly injured.

His career has been a wild ride of position changes. Wikipedia:

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During the early portion of his rookie season, Onwenu played across the offensive line after injuries affected the normal lineup; Onwenu took snaps as a sixth offensive lineman/jumbo tight end, at right tackle, and at both guard positions... Onwenu made his first career start at left guard against the Las Vegas Raiders... Despite alternating between guard and tackle, Onwenu finished the year ranked as one of the best offensive linemen in the NFL and started all 16 Patriots games. Onwenu moved to left guard for the 2021 season, however Onwenu struggled and was benched... and finished the season as a backup guard The 2022 season was a bounce back season for Onwenu as he moved to right guard... Onwenu impressed at the position, being PFF's No. 4 ranked guard.

He's currently the Patriots right tackle. He would certainly offer flexibility with what they do with Neal.

In comment 16298647 JoeyBigBlue said:

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Has given up on Ezeudu already. He should be one of the starters at Guard next season. He will be a solid player.

What have you seen that makes you think this ?

think Neal will play much better inside. so 3 out of 5 spots are good. T don't think they're that far away. Just need to start the same guys and let them gel. and figure out a way to stay healthy.

Not qualified to opine on the OL Coach but I wonder...

or TE who is a good blocker.