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NFT: 11/22: Mets Offseason

Shecky : 11/22/2023 11:58 am
I was asked to post this last night, didn't get a chance

1) Spring Training Schedule: The Mets are preparing for their upcoming spring training games, with matches scheduled against the Nationals on February 26 and the Astros on February 25.

2) Hall of Fame Ballot Newbies: Notable players such as Big Sexy, Wright and Reyes are among the new candidates on the Hall of Fame ballot.

3) MLB Awards Week: Recently, MLB Awards Week took place, with results and analysis highlighting key players and performances in the league. This includes the announcement of Acuna and Ohtani as unanimous MVPs.

4) Management and Coaching Updates: The Mets have been making significant changes in their management and coaching staff, including a new 3-year contract for their manager, Mendoza.


Current State of the Coaching Staff
The Mets are currently grappling with a bench coach vacancy, a critical role for any MLB team. This comes alongside role shifts for Eric Chavez and Jeremy Barnes, who are now sharing hitting coach duties. These changes indicate a strategic reshuffle, aiming to bolster the team's coaching effectiveness.

New Additions and Hires
The introduction of Kris Gross and Andy Green in player development and amateur scouting is a significant move. Their expertise could be pivotal in nurturing the next generation of Mets stars, ensuring a bright future for the team.

Willie Randolph's Consideration
The consideration of Willie Randolph for the bench coach position was intriguing. His connection with Carlos Mendoza and vast experience bring a wealth of knowledge, though questions about his age and ability to connect with younger players remain.

Randolph's Tenure as Mets Manager
Randolph's tenure from 2005 to 2008, including the 2006 NLCS appearance and the 2007 collapse, was a rollercoaster of emotions for fans. His firing and legacy are still topics of discussion among the Mets community.

Other Candidates in the Mix
Phil Nevin and other potential candidates are also in the mix. Each brings unique strengths and perspectives, making the decision a critical one for the Mets' future success.

David Stearns' Leadership and Approach
Under David Stearns' leadership, the Mets are exploring unconventional methods and a collaborative decision-making process in staffing. This innovative approach could be a game-changer for the team.

Collaborative Decision-Making
The Mets' collaborative approach to staffing, blending experience with fresh perspectives, could set the stage for a dynamic and successful coaching team.

As a Mets fan, these developments fill me with both excitement and anticipation. The decisions made in the coming days will shape the future of our beloved team. Here's to hoping for a season of triumphs and a future as bright as the stars in Queens!

Mets' Pitching Strategy in the Wake of Cardinals' Market Moves
As a Mets fan, I've seen our share of ups and downs. The recent developments in our pitching strategy, especially in light of the Cardinals setting the market, have me both intrigued and cautiously optimistic.

The Search for Starting Pitchers
The Mets, under the leadership of David Stearns, are on a quest to fortify their rotation. With Kodai Senga and José Quintana as the only certain starters, the need for additional firepower is clear. Last season's 75-87 record is a stark reminder that to compete with the likes of the Braves and Phillies, we need to up our game. The prospect of adding a high-caliber pitcher is exciting and could be a significant step towards contention.

The Cost of Landing Starting Pitchers
The Cardinals have set a new benchmark by signing Lance Lynn and Kyle Gibson for $10 million and $12 million, respectively. This move has implications for the Mets, who now face the reality of spending significantly to acquire top-tier pitchers. However, the question remains: is it wise to invest heavily in uncertain pitchers?

Comparing Pitchers and Mets' Strategic Moves
Joey Lucchesi and Tylor Megill could offer similar value to Lynn, but the Mets' eyes are on bigger prizes. Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Jordan Montgomery are high on our list, offering a blend of talent and potential without the hefty price tag associated with qualifying offer players like
Blake Snell and Sonny Gray.

The Mets must avoid overpaying for injury-prone pitchers, a lesson perhaps they’ve learned. Yet here comes Luis Severino...

Tyler Glasnow's Career and Potential Trade Partners
Speaking of an injury-prone pitcher… Tyler Glasnow, currently with the Tampa Bay Rays, is a hot topic in the trade rumor mill. His impressive career stats, including a 3.89 ERA and 678 strikeouts, make him an attractive target. However, his injury history, including a recent oblique injury, is a concern.

The Mets, known for their deep pockets, could be a perfect landing spot for Glasnow. The Rays and the Phillies are potential trade partners, but the complexity of trade negotiations means anything could happen.

Avoiding Risky Investments
The Mets should steer clear of unreliable options. Investing in pitchers who offer quality and reliability, especially if they command a lower salary than the likes of Lynn and Gibson, is a smarter strategy.

The Fifth Starter Conundrum
Lucchesi, while not the most glamorous option, could be a reasonable gamble as a fifth starter. The ideal scenario? Signing Yamamoto and trading for a young, controllable arm, aligning with the Cardinals' approach but tailored to our needs.

The Disappointing 2023 Season and Rebuilding
After a disappointing 2023 season, where we saw the departure of key players like Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer, signing a player of Yamamoto's caliber is not just desirable but necessary. His ability to electrify the mound could be the catalyst for a much-needed turnaround.

The focus should be on securing Yamamoto and a young arm through trade, emphasizing smart financial decisions. His familiarity with Kodai Senga could be a significant advantage, potentially creating a formidable rotation duo.

The Pursuit of Yamamoto and Other Options
The Mets' aggressiveness in pursuing Yamamoto will be telling. If we fail to secure him, alternatives like Blake Snell (doubtful since he received a qualifying offer) and Jordan Montgomery are still on the table. However, the Mets' approach to free agency this season will be critical in shaping our future.

Mets Sign Bullpen Arm to Bolster Depth
In a strategic move, the Mets signed Cole Sulser to a minor league contract. Sulser, with a mixed performance in MLB, could become a valuable piece in the Mets' bullpen. This low-risk move shows the Mets' intent to address their bullpen issues, which was a key reason for their struggles last season.

Ronny Mauricio's Performance Review
Minor and Major League Breakdown
In the minors, Mauricio's stats were impressive: a .292 batting average, 23 homers, and 24 stolen bases over 116 games. But when he stepped up to the majors, we saw a dip - a .248 average with 2 home runs in 26 games. Despite this, his potential shines through.

Evaluating Mauricio's Future
Mauricio's journey has been a rollercoaster. Starting strong in winter ball, he faced a setback being sent down to AAA Syracuse due to Lindor's presence. However, his performance there - especially those highlight-worthy homers - was nothing short of impressive. His delayed promotion might have been a misstep by the Mets, but once he got his shot in September, boy, did he show flashes of brilliance!

Coleman Crow's Breakout Potential
Now, let's talk about Coleman Crow. This kid has skills that could make him a star, but there's a risk we might lose him in the Rule 5 draft. Keeping an eye on his development is crucial for the Mets' future strategy.

Coleman Crow, a promising Mets prospect, is at risk of being plucked from the organization due to the Rule 5 draft. His impressive performance in Double-A, including a 1.88 ERA and 31 strikeouts, makes him a valuable asset. The Mets face the challenge of balancing their roster while protecting their prospects.

LFGM
As a die-hard Mets fan and someone who's lived through the rollercoaster of emotions that comes with following this team, the latest developments in our pitching lineup have me on the edge of my seat.

From last Mets thread:
- The New York Mets are introduced Carlos Mendoza as their new manager.
- Deadline to add players to the 40-man roster.
- Some fans have expressed their opinions about potential coaching staff changes and candidates.
- Speculation about who the Mets might add to their 40-man roster.
- The Yankees are mentioned in trade discussions for players like Nick Senzel and Soto.
- The agent representing Yamamoto and Senga, Joel Wolfe, is also involved with Stanton and Diaz.

Calling on all the BBI Met threads old posters, for a good Royal Rumble of days past...


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Bieber  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 11:26 am : link
"Nothing seems out of place. I wonder how much of the perceived drop in talent was because he was no longer beating up on the other AL Central teams. He took a major step back in 2022 and having to face average or better teams in 2023 made his decline look even worse.

I don’t see a way for him to improve unless he increases his declining fastball velocity (94.2 to 92.8 to 91.3 to 91.4) since he is already limiting his fastball usage to 35%. Three of his secondaries have a 13% or better swinging-strike rate. Just expect a ton of innings with an 8.0 K/9 and a near 4.00 ERA."
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RE: Reese  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 11:28 am : link
In comment 16306010 DanMetroMan said:
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Olson for Daniel Norris was not one of Stearns better deals. Honestly, didn't even remember Olson was with the Brewers.


dont want to say im nervous, but im anxious for him to get his first big deal.

maybe it's just as easy as opening up cohen's checkbook but for all his issues eppler knew how to win an offseason and get big deals done.

the rangers dont win the WS if they hadnt made a lot of big deals in the past few offseasons.
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DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 11:31 am : link
Las Vegas/Oakland's rotation isn't awful/has some real upside....Miller, Sears, Medina, Waldichuk, Boyle, Blackburn

Sears is a personal favorite trade target and Blackburn would be worth calling about as well
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DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 11:32 am : link
Rays Metrics
@RaysMetrics
Glasnow trade chatter is running wild and Cubs seem to be very involved. Their deep farm system + ML ready talent makes them an intriguing partner.

One player I’d target in return from them is Keegan Thompson. He’s got a wide arsenal that I think can reach another level
Didn't Bauer retire?  
Pete in MD : 11/28/2023 11:56 am : link
Or has that changed?
RE: Didn't Bauer retire?  
pjcas18 : 11/28/2023 11:58 am : link
In comment 16306050 Pete in MD said:
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Or has that changed?


he was suspended and went to Japan as far as I know
Bauer  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 12:00 pm : link
is free to sign with an MLB team.
RE: Bauer  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 12:01 pm : link
In comment 16306054 DanMetroMan said:
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is free to sign with an MLB team.


And no he hasn't retired, his agent just shot down a report he was going to pitch in Venezuela and confirmed he's looking to sign with an MLB team. He came out and gave Cole (his former enemy) praise for winning CY, some took that to be a move to garner some interest from NYY.
Martino  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 12:20 pm : link
What’s in a uniform number?

In the case of the New York Yankees and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, it’s a small but potentially meaningful part of a courtship.

According to league sources, the Yanks have purposefully held the number 18 for Yamamoto over the past year. That is not only Yamamoto’s number with the Orix Buffaloes, but is traditionally considered the "ace" number in Japan.

Hiroki Kuroda, a onetime NPB ace, wore 18 with the Yankees. Masahiro Tanaka wore number 18 as an ace for the NPB’s Rakuten Golden Eagles before signing with the Yankees, but took 19 in New York out of respect for Kuroda, who was still on the team.
Marino  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 12:56 pm : link
says they really like Montgomery.
RE: Marino  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16306142 DanMetroMan said:
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says they really like Montgomery.


That's Mike Marino, not the aforementioned Andy Martino to be clear.
RE: Mets  
Shecky : 11/28/2023 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16305960 pjcas18 said:
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may get stuck with Bauer and Shecky will need to pick a new team, lol.


HAAAAAAAAAA

He checks all the boxes, except the douche box 😂

I vow to not follow, nor contribute here while he wears orange and blue.
RE: RE: Marino  
Named Later : 11/28/2023 1:07 pm : link
In comment 16306143 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16306142 DanMetroMan said:


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says they really like Montgomery.



That's Mike Marino, not the aforementioned Andy Martino to be clear.


Not sure who Marino is talking about in the above quote. I like Montgomery too.

Oh, and Darryl.....do you mind if we 'unretire' number 18 for the next few years ?
RE: RE: Bauer  
Pete in MD : 11/28/2023 1:24 pm : link
In comment 16306055 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16306054 DanMetroMan said:


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is free to sign with an MLB team.



And no he hasn't retired, his agent just shot down a report he was going to pitch in Venezuela and confirmed he's looking to sign with an MLB team. He came out and gave Cole (his former enemy) praise for winning CY, some took that to be a move to garner some interest from NYY.

Lol, I was thinking of Trevor May. I thought it was weird but maybe Bauer said "fuck it, I'm done."
It's like the one  
pjcas18 : 11/28/2023 1:35 pm : link
number under 20 not retired by the Yankees, lol.

Unrelated to this, but as a Habs fan too, I hate retiring jersey numbers.

Get a ring of honor or team hall of fame, or whatever. Retiring numbers is stupid.

RE: RE: RE: Marino  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 1:39 pm : link
In comment 16306150 Named Later said:
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In comment 16306143 DanMetroMan said:


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In comment 16306142 DanMetroMan said:


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says they really like Montgomery.



That's Mike Marino, not the aforementioned Andy Martino to be clear.



Not sure who Marino is talking about in the above quote. I like Montgomery too.

Oh, and Darryl.....do you mind if we 'unretire' number 18 for the next few years ?


Marino says the Mets like Montgomery
Mets + Montgomery make sense  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 1:44 pm : link
he and mendoza were on bench together for a half decade, in the yankee system for longer than that, and he is the type of pitcher they need.

is he good enough to be a true top of the rotation guy?
if not can they afford him as the 2nd SP they get?

only need to answer yes to 1 of the above.
here is the marino tweet + his informed predictions  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 1:47 pm : link
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Michael Marino
@MarinoMLB
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1h
Sources: Mets have identified Jordan Montgomery as a pitcher they really like. Yoshinobu Yamamoto is someone they are also very interested in, but far more teams are interested in him which could make it more difficult to acquire him. Both pitchers on Mets wishlist.


Michael Marino
@MarinoMLB
Inspired by
@MLBNerds
(these are educated guesses):

Soto: Yankees
Glasnow: Cardinals
Montgomery: Mets
Yamamoto: a team in NY
Ohtani: Dodgers
Bieber: Reds
Burnes: No Trade
Alonso: No Trade
Torres: No Trade
India: Blue Jays
Cease: Orioles
Robert: No Trade (but they should)


a Yamamoto + Montgomery offseason would be a home run.
here's a little math on yamamoto and montgomery  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 1:52 pm : link
mets were scheduled to spend $43.3m x 2 = $86.6m in 2024 on Scherzer/Verlander. (that's money cohen says he considers "already spent")

they retained ~$21m each and thereby saved $22m each in 2024.

those amounts will obviously go a pretty long way toward paying down 2 top of the rotation arms if they like the players/price tags enough.

with senga a likely opt out in 2 years and Quintana up next year, there is certainly room for 2 long term SP deals. i expect 1 long term and 1 short term just knowing the market is competitive for the top guys, but yamamoto and montgomery would be an A offseason and just what dr ordered.
RE: Mets + Montgomery make sense  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 2:03 pm : link
In comment 16306208 Eric on Li said:
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he and mendoza were on bench together for a half decade, in the yankee system for longer than that, and he is the type of pitcher they need.

is he good enough to be a true top of the rotation guy?
if not can they afford him as the 2nd SP they get?

only need to answer yes to 1 of the above.


I don't see much of an argument for him being a top of the rotation starter, nor will his contract come in at that range. He has a career 3.68 era/3.75 FIP and will be 31. I'd love to add Montgomery but I don't even think the most optimistic of views projects him to suddenly become an ace. Steamer projects him for 3.2 fWAR, 3.94 era/4.01 FIP and those projects sound about right to me. Puts his "value" around where Gray's is, but younger with no QO attached. So he probably gets more years than you'd like (guessing 6) at about 26 million per season


6x26 = 156 million is about where I expect his contract to come in.
Fangraphs  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 2:05 pm : link
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Montgomery doesn’t light up radar guns or miss a ton of bats; in fact, his 21.4% strikeout rate was a full-season low. That said, he does a lot of things pretty well, such as getting hitters to chase, limiting hard contact, and avoiding walks. His emergence has been aided by his adding 1.6 mph to his sinker since his 2017 rookie season. The pitch has become his go-to fastball, deceiving hitters thanks to its seam-shifted wake; it ranked among the game’s most valuable sinkers in both 2022 (seventh at 10 runs prevented) and 2023 (fifth at 16 runs prevented), and was 20th among all offerings this year.

Mentality aside, Montgomery may not be an ace or net a contract befitting one. That said, practically any rotation could benefit from his addition, and he should cross into nine-figure territory with his upcoming deal. – JJ



Law

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I wrote about Montgomery at some length in early October, as he has gone way beyond my original projections for him to become a back-end starter. He’s a strike thrower who gets substantial deception from the difference in movement between his sinker and four-seamer, while his stuff across the board has improved by 2-3 mph over the past four seasons. Montgomery leads with the sinker, throwing it for more than half of his pitches, but has a real four-pitch mix with the four-seamer, changeup, and curveball, dominating left-handed batters across the board — he’s allowed just two homers to lefties in the past two seasons combined and held them to a .251 OBP. He’s effective enough against right-handers, limiting them to a .295 OBP over that same span, but they’ve tagged him for 37 homers since the start of 2022, a function of his arm slot and the fact that most of the pitches he throws move in towards a righty’s bat.

He did undergo Tommy John surgery in 2018 but hasn’t missed a start since the beginning of the 2020 season, including 32 starts each of the past two years. Montgomery is definitely at his peak right now, with his best velocity and results, but I like this formula — strikes, deception, changing speeds, without reliance on huge velocity — to age well, so he’s one of the few starting pitchers on this market I’d be willing to go four years for, and I think he’ll probably end up with five-year offers.



MLBTR
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Montgomery looks like a safe bet for upper mid-rotation production. He fits as a #2 or high-end #3 starter on a contender. The midseason trade adds to the appeal. Not only did he demonstrate he can pitch in the postseason, but changing teams rendered him ineligible for the qualifying offer. Aside from Yamamoto, he’s the clear best pitcher available who wouldn’t cost a signing team a draft pick.
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DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 2:17 pm : link
I'd love for the Mets to add Montgomery but I remain confused as to why (just using MLBTR for example) has him landing 150 over 6 vs. E-Rod at 82 over 4. Nearly TWICE the guaranteed money? They are the same age, both lefty, big market tested.

Steamer projects E-Rod at 2.9 fWAR, 4.08 FIP, 3.97 era
Montgomery 3.2 fWAR, 4.01 FIP, 3.94 era


2023 E-Rod 152.2 innings 3.66 FIP 3.0 fWAR 3.30 era
2023 Montgomery 188.2 innings 3.56 FIP, 4.3 fWAR 3.20 era

Just doesn't look like a double the money, 2 more years level gap (and I'd happily take both of them).
Again  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 2:18 pm : link
I would have liked this for the Mets

Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
Kenta Maeda contract with the Detroit Tigers is now official:
2024: $14 million.
2025: $10 million.
6x156m ($26m per year) would be the 8th highest paid SP in MLB  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 2:30 pm : link
behind Carlos Rodon's 6x162m.

any team giving out that contract is only doing it if they think Montgomery is a top of the rotation pitcher. judging by marino's report, the mets may think that.

the last 3 full years 2021-2023 montgomery is the 17th most productive SP in mlb - which if you go by the basic math that there are 30 teams and each has 2 top of the rotation starters means he was comfortably performing to that level (on playoff teams no less). so he has a legitimate argument at being considered 'top of the rotation' even if as law said for a long time his stuff was projected more middle/back of the rotation.



and I do agree with you Dan it's a valid question whether or not he has just overachieved or if he's legitimately that good despite not having high end stuff. obviously that's what the NYY thought when they dealt him for Bader. his numbers are good enough to warrant categorizing him as good as Snell, but the stuff holds me back to thinking it'd be better if he was the 2nd best SP they add despite the price tag.
To  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 2:41 pm : link
be fair, most "top" SP don't hit the open market (that's why Cole got such a monstrous deal). I mean a guy like Jesus Luzardo would get a huge contract if he hit FA now, Kyle Bradish? Framber Valdez has posted 8.7 fWAR over the past 2 seasons (7th in baseball) but... not a FA. So I don't really think it's an accurate representation to say "Montgomery is being paid like a TOR starter" because most of these guys aren't getting "market rates". Would you want Montgomery or Gallen? Sandy Alcantara is hurt, but signed an extension before he hit FA. Logan Webb 4.1, 4.2 and 4.9 fWAR the past 3 seasons, no real argument for Montgomery being more valuable than him and yet his next contract will blow Webb's away because Webb signed before he hit FA. I think Montgomery is closer to a Chris Bassitt than a burgeoning ace. That's not a knock.
Lets  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 2:43 pm : link
put it this way, if your team adds a true TOR SP you probably pump your fist and fantasize about this guy pitching game 7 of the WS against another teams best. I don't feel that way at all about Montgomery. I think he's very solid/good and he'd be a nice addition to a rotation that needs help.
Heyman  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 2:45 pm : link
again repeating the Yankees are being VERY aggressive. In on Soto, Yamamoto and Bellinger.
The  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 3:00 pm : link
hot stove is cooking!

RHP Jose Guevara assigned to DSL Mets Orange.
RE: To  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16306300 DanMetroMan said:
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be fair, most "top" SP don't hit the open market (that's why Cole got such a monstrous deal). I mean a guy like Jesus Luzardo would get a huge contract if he hit FA now, Kyle Bradish? Framber Valdez has posted 8.7 fWAR over the past 2 seasons (7th in baseball) but... not a FA. So I don't really think it's an accurate representation to say "Montgomery is being paid like a TOR starter" because most of these guys aren't getting "market rates". Would you want Montgomery or Gallen? Sandy Alcantara is hurt, but signed an extension before he hit FA. Logan Webb 4.1, 4.2 and 4.9 fWAR the past 3 seasons, no real argument for Montgomery being more valuable than him and yet his next contract will blow Webb's away because Webb signed before he hit FA. I think Montgomery is closer to a Chris Bassitt than a burgeoning ace. That's not a knock.


bassitt got 21m at age 34 with QO depressing market, after crapping the bed in his 2 biggest starts of the year.

a younger player of exactly the same skill level, without a QO and off a good postseason, is going to get more because the demand is going to be higher, and obviously a longer deal as well since he's got more prime years left. montgomery's contract projections range between 22m-26m and i think that's reasonable (esp since those numbers net out to similar take home $ depending on taxes in different markets).

end of the day i think all of these guys are going to get comparable AAVs (Nola got 24.5m, e-rod opted out of 16m, gray got 25m, snell and montgomery likely to get in that 25m range). the years are the bigger differentiator w/r/t the demand. younger and without QO should be in higher demand, along with more reliable innings projections.
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DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 3:18 pm : link
Mark Brubaker has left his roles as chief technology officer at Point72 Asset Management and the New York Mets, both owned by billionaire Steve Cohen.

Brubaker departed Point72 after four years to “pursue other opportunities,” according to an internal memo seen by Bloomberg, which didn’t give further details.
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Kodai  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 3:23 pm : link
Senga is actually older than both Montgomery and E-Rod. Montgomery by a month, E-Rod by 5
Eno  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 3:29 pm : link
doesn't seem too high on Jung-hoo Lee
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DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 4:20 pm : link
Somebody is going to roll the dice on Fujinami (cherry-picking stats forthcoming) final 17 appearances 16.2 innings 14 hits 6 walks 17 k's 3.78 era/2.30 FIP. Hitters hit .219/.286/.328 against during that stretch. Probably just an inconsistent tease-type but still only 29 #Mets
Rosenthal  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 4:22 pm : link
The Milwaukee Brewers are talking with top outfield prospect Jackson Chourio about a landmark contract that could influence the direction of their offseason and the makeup of their 2024 roster.
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DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 4:26 pm : link
Japanese Baseball Discord
@NPBDiscord
The Baltimore Orioles have reported to have offered Naoyuki Uwasawa a multi-year contract with him settling for the 4th to 5th spot in the starting rotation.
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DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 4:44 pm : link
Dodgers have to regret not okaying adding a year to Eduardo Rodriguez's contract at the deadline. 4 years 69 million? Unless of course... they expect to land much bigger fish
yankees seem to be ratcheting up expectations to unmanageable levels  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 4:54 pm : link
or at least not doing much to tamp things down. they are either going full evil empire and upping their payroll to like $350m+ or something is going to have to give in their status as favorites for yamamoto, soto, bellinger, etc.

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@snyyankees
The Yankees purposefully did not issue #18 last year and have been saving it for Yoshinobu Yamamoto to possibly claim, per
@martinonyc


Yamamoto wore #18, which is traditionally considered the "ace" number in Japan, with the Orix Buffaloes


btw #18 is also available for mets.
yankees have 36 on their 40 man roster and payroll at $235m  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 4:57 pm : link
so Bellinger + ~$25m SP would take them right up to the cohen tax threshold.
RE: yankees seem to be ratcheting up expectations to unmanageable levels  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 5:03 pm : link
In comment 16306564 Eric on Li said:
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or at least not doing much to tamp things down. they are either going full evil empire and upping their payroll to like $350m+ or something is going to have to give in their status as favorites for yamamoto, soto, bellinger, etc.



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@snyyankees
The Yankees purposefully did not issue #18 last year and have been saving it for Yoshinobu Yamamoto to possibly claim, per
@martinonyc


Yamamoto wore #18, which is traditionally considered the "ace" number in Japan, with the Orix Buffaloes



btw #18 is also available for mets.


18 is being retired this season for the Mets so it's not available for Yamamoto.
RE: RE: yankees seem to be ratcheting up expectations to unmanageable levels  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 5:41 pm : link
In comment 16306584 DanMetroMan said:
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or at least not doing much to tamp things down. they are either going full evil empire and upping their payroll to like $350m+ or something is going to have to give in their status as favorites for yamamoto, soto, bellinger, etc.



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@snyyankees
The Yankees purposefully did not issue #18 last year and have been saving it for Yoshinobu Yamamoto to possibly claim, per
@martinonyc


Yamamoto wore #18, which is traditionally considered the "ace" number in Japan, with the Orix Buffaloes



btw #18 is also available for mets.



18 is being retired this season for the Mets so it's not available for Yamamoto.


wow i totally missed that announcement.
Mets  
GF1080 : 11/28/2023 8:36 pm : link
Expected to sign Vladi Miguel Guerrero in the 2024 IFA period per Mayer. Son of Vlad and brother of Vlad Jr.
RE: Mets  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 9:10 pm : link
In comment 16306792 GF1080 said:
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Expected to sign Vladi Miguel Guerrero in the 2024 IFA period per Mayer. Son of Vlad and brother of Vlad Jr.


what level of prospect is he compared to big bro as an IFA?
RE: RE: Mets  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 9:12 pm : link
In comment 16306819 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16306792 GF1080 said:


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Expected to sign Vladi Miguel Guerrero in the 2024 IFA period per Mayer. Son of Vlad and brother of Vlad Jr.



what level of prospect is he compared to big bro as an IFA?


Not a major prospect
Speaking  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 9:15 pm : link
Of which… remember Juan Soto’s brother who backed
Out of a deal
With the Mets…. Yeesh
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RE: RE: RE: Mets  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 9:16 pm : link
In comment 16306820 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16306819 Eric on Li said:


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In comment 16306792 GF1080 said:


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Expected to sign Vladi Miguel Guerrero in the 2024 IFA period per Mayer. Son of Vlad and brother of Vlad Jr.



what level of prospect is he compared to big bro as an IFA?



Not a major prospect


what was vlad jr? i know mets almost got him in wilpon years and i think it was pre-pools so i assume wasnt a huge sb?
Guerrero  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 9:17 pm : link
Is a 1B/DH and “did not receive a large bonus”. Did not crack pipelines top 50 for 2024
Vlad Jr  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 9:18 pm : link
Got one of the largest bonuses in recent memory (3.9 million) (the Mets at one point were expected to sign him)
When Vlad jr signed  
DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 9:20 pm : link
The Blue Jays signed 16-year-old Dominican outfielder Vladimir Guerrero Jr. for $3.9 million. Guerrero is ranked No. 4 on MLB.com's Top 30 International Prospects list.

The son of nine-time All-Star and 2004 American League Most Valuable Player Vladimir Guerrero, the right-handed batter could be the best overall hitter in the class, and some consider him the best overall player this year.

"Those kind of guys don't come across very often," said Blue Jays special assistant of Latin American operations Ismael Cruz on Thursday. "So it was either play all of your marbles on one guy or it was go out and get a couple of players that are fine, but for us, Vladimir is a difference-maker. He has the potential to be a very, very special kid."

Blue Jays stole Cruz from the Mets, he now runs the Dodgers IFA department
RE: Vlad Jr  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 9:25 pm : link
In comment 16306828 DanMetroMan said:
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Got one of the largest bonuses in recent memory (3.9 million) (the Mets at one point were expected to sign him)


the surprising thing is that the mets were that in it in those days. whenever those negotiations were going on had to be peak madoff problems ('12-14?).
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DanMetroMan : 11/28/2023 9:25 pm : link
Mets are taking the “big bonus” approach in 2025 which will be a bit different. 4-5 million for Elian Pena and “the rest” to Cuban OF Yeison Acosta

- my IFA guy on Guerrero “bad body, big power but don’t love the swing, last name is the carrying tool”
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