I was asked to post this last night, didn't get a chance
1) Spring Training Schedule: The Mets are preparing for their upcoming spring training games, with matches scheduled against the Nationals on February 26 and the Astros on February 25.
2) Hall of Fame Ballot Newbies: Notable players such as Big Sexy, Wright and Reyes are among the new candidates on the Hall of Fame ballot.
3) MLB Awards Week: Recently, MLB Awards Week took place, with results and analysis highlighting key players and performances in the league. This includes the announcement of Acuna and Ohtani as unanimous MVPs.
4) Management and Coaching Updates: The Mets have been making significant changes in their management and coaching staff, including a new 3-year contract for their manager, Mendoza.
Current State of the Coaching Staff
The Mets are currently grappling with a bench coach vacancy, a critical role for any MLB team. This comes alongside role shifts for Eric Chavez and Jeremy Barnes, who are now sharing hitting coach duties. These changes indicate a strategic reshuffle, aiming to bolster the team's coaching effectiveness.
New Additions and Hires
The introduction of Kris Gross and Andy Green in player development and amateur scouting is a significant move. Their expertise could be pivotal in nurturing the next generation of Mets stars, ensuring a bright future for the team.
Willie Randolph's Consideration
The consideration of Willie Randolph for the bench coach position was intriguing. His connection with Carlos Mendoza and vast experience bring a wealth of knowledge, though questions about his age and ability to connect with younger players remain.
Randolph's Tenure as Mets Manager
Randolph's tenure from 2005 to 2008, including the 2006 NLCS appearance and the 2007 collapse, was a rollercoaster of emotions for fans. His firing and legacy are still topics of discussion among the Mets community.
Other Candidates in the Mix
Phil Nevin and other potential candidates are also in the mix. Each brings unique strengths and perspectives, making the decision a critical one for the Mets' future success.
David Stearns' Leadership and Approach
Under David Stearns' leadership, the Mets are exploring unconventional methods and a collaborative decision-making process in staffing. This innovative approach could be a game-changer for the team.
Collaborative Decision-Making
The Mets' collaborative approach to staffing, blending experience with fresh perspectives, could set the stage for a dynamic and successful coaching team.
As a Mets fan, these developments fill me with both excitement and anticipation. The decisions made in the coming days will shape the future of our beloved team. Here's to hoping for a season of triumphs and a future as bright as the stars in Queens!
Mets' Pitching Strategy in the Wake of Cardinals' Market Moves
As a Mets fan, I've seen our share of ups and downs. The recent developments in our pitching strategy, especially in light of the Cardinals setting the market, have me both intrigued and cautiously optimistic.
The Search for Starting Pitchers
The Mets, under the leadership of David Stearns, are on a quest to fortify their rotation. With Kodai Senga and José Quintana as the only certain starters, the need for additional firepower is clear. Last season's 75-87 record is a stark reminder that to compete with the likes of the Braves and Phillies, we need to up our game. The prospect of adding a high-caliber pitcher is exciting and could be a significant step towards contention.
The Cost of Landing Starting Pitchers
The Cardinals have set a new benchmark by signing Lance Lynn and Kyle Gibson for $10 million and $12 million, respectively. This move has implications for the Mets, who now face the reality of spending significantly to acquire top-tier pitchers. However, the question remains: is it wise to invest heavily in uncertain pitchers?
Comparing Pitchers and Mets' Strategic Moves
Joey Lucchesi and Tylor Megill could offer similar value to Lynn, but the Mets' eyes are on bigger prizes. Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Jordan Montgomery are high on our list, offering a blend of talent and potential without the hefty price tag associated with qualifying offer players like
Blake Snell and Sonny Gray.
The Mets must avoid overpaying for injury-prone pitchers, a lesson perhaps they’ve learned. Yet here comes Luis Severino...
Tyler Glasnow's Career and Potential Trade Partners
Speaking of an injury-prone pitcher… Tyler Glasnow, currently with the Tampa Bay Rays, is a hot topic in the trade rumor mill. His impressive career stats, including a 3.89 ERA and 678 strikeouts, make him an attractive target. However, his injury history, including a recent oblique injury, is a concern.
The Mets, known for their deep pockets, could be a perfect landing spot for Glasnow. The Rays and the Phillies are potential trade partners, but the complexity of trade negotiations means anything could happen.
Avoiding Risky Investments
The Mets should steer clear of unreliable options. Investing in pitchers who offer quality and reliability, especially if they command a lower salary than the likes of Lynn and Gibson, is a smarter strategy.
The Fifth Starter Conundrum
Lucchesi, while not the most glamorous option, could be a reasonable gamble as a fifth starter. The ideal scenario? Signing Yamamoto and trading for a young, controllable arm, aligning with the Cardinals' approach but tailored to our needs.
The Disappointing 2023 Season and Rebuilding
After a disappointing 2023 season, where we saw the departure of key players like Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer, signing a player of Yamamoto's caliber is not just desirable but necessary. His ability to electrify the mound could be the catalyst for a much-needed turnaround.
The focus should be on securing Yamamoto and a young arm through trade, emphasizing smart financial decisions. His familiarity with Kodai Senga could be a significant advantage, potentially creating a formidable rotation duo.
The Pursuit of Yamamoto and Other Options
The Mets' aggressiveness in pursuing Yamamoto will be telling. If we fail to secure him, alternatives like Blake Snell (doubtful since he received a qualifying offer) and Jordan Montgomery are still on the table. However, the Mets' approach to free agency this season will be critical in shaping our future.
Mets Sign Bullpen Arm to Bolster Depth
In a strategic move, the Mets signed Cole Sulser to a minor league contract. Sulser, with a mixed performance in MLB, could become a valuable piece in the Mets' bullpen. This low-risk move shows the Mets' intent to address their bullpen issues, which was a key reason for their struggles last season.
Ronny Mauricio's Performance Review
Minor and Major League Breakdown
In the minors, Mauricio's stats were impressive: a .292 batting average, 23 homers, and 24 stolen bases over 116 games. But when he stepped up to the majors, we saw a dip - a .248 average with 2 home runs in 26 games. Despite this, his potential shines through.
Evaluating Mauricio's Future
Mauricio's journey has been a rollercoaster. Starting strong in winter ball, he faced a setback being sent down to AAA Syracuse due to Lindor's presence. However, his performance there - especially those highlight-worthy homers - was nothing short of impressive. His delayed promotion might have been a misstep by the Mets, but once he got his shot in September, boy, did he show flashes of brilliance!
Coleman Crow's Breakout Potential
Now, let's talk about Coleman Crow. This kid has skills that could make him a star, but there's a risk we might lose him in the Rule 5 draft. Keeping an eye on his development is crucial for the Mets' future strategy.
Coleman Crow, a promising Mets prospect, is at risk of being plucked from the organization due to the Rule 5 draft. His impressive performance in Double-A, including a 1.88 ERA and 31 strikeouts, makes him a valuable asset. The Mets face the challenge of balancing their roster while protecting their prospects.
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As a die-hard Mets fan and someone who's lived through the rollercoaster of emotions that comes with following this team, the latest developments in our pitching lineup have me on the edge of my seat.
From last Mets thread:
- The New York Mets are introduced Carlos Mendoza as their new manager.
- Deadline to add players to the 40-man roster.
- Some fans have expressed their opinions about potential coaching staff changes and candidates.
- Speculation about who the Mets might add to their 40-man roster.
- The Yankees are mentioned in trade discussions for players like Nick Senzel and Soto.
- The agent representing Yamamoto and Senga, Joel Wolfe, is also involved with Stanton and Diaz.
Calling on all the BBI Met threads old posters, for a good Royal Rumble of days past...
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So updated @mets have 30 on their 40 man (once these 2 moves are finalized) and yet still have multiple players on the 40 man who could be removed if need be. Plenty of holes but also plenty of room for adds. Guys like Zack Short, Reed Garrett, SRF, Phil Bickford remain so if Stearns wants to go wild with smaller deals he can.
Wouldn’t hurt to overpay by a few dollars on a ton of AAAA, minor league deals. Without taking up off-season slots too ;)
anyone in particular you like that would fit that mold?
nick senzel-ecki
might be well... short. With the addition of Wendle @mets
have Lindor, Mauricio, Wendle + Acuña (who is on the 40 man) all of whom have extensive SS experience. Short is pushing 30 with a career 58 wRC+ as a big leaguer
Met with Steinbrenner, “we had a good conversation, we hugged in the end, Steinbrenner told me he understood my position, my situation, it was a tough decision to go to Mets, the Yankees were dealing with a luxury tax issue, Steinbrenner offered me a 1-year deal, but I passed since Mets had presented a multi-year contract.”
“At first, I did not understand New York. I was told not to go to the Mets. Mets were not a priority. Yankees were ‘by far’ a priority. In New York it didn’t matter who you were, you’ll get your boo’s like if it was a shower after a game.”
“I didn’t understand, these guys sign me for 7 years, and these fans will boo you, I didn’t understand why. My wife told me It wasn’t personal. The same fan who boos you wants a photo after the game. My wife told me it’s not personal, it’s part of the culture. I thought this is some culture.”
Hit a homerun one day, didn’t want to come out for the curtain call. “Julio Franco told me to go out, I said no. I’m loyal, if you’re with me and I’m with you, I’m with you during the good and the bad. They’re with me now but what about later when I strike out? More boos? No, I’m not going out. I was upset, Julio told me ‘Carlito go out, go out, it’s going to change’ then he forced me out, and I took a quick curtain call, looking down, and came back in. Reporters asked me why and I said why, you have to support me during the bad and the good, you can’t support me during the good and not the bad, I don’t think that’s right.”
Difference between Mets and Yanks … “during my time with the Mets, not comparing them to now, but when I played with them. They currently have a new ownership and are trying to change the culture. When I played with the Mets, I felt they didn’t have an identity. We were a team that was looking to compete with the Yankees, I felt like that was a lack of focus, the Yankees didn’t play in the National League, they played in the American League. Why do we want to compete with the Yankees when we should be competing with the Dodgers? Understand? We didn’t have that focus. That came from the top to the bottom. We were a team that reacted too much to negative news. For example, I would get to the stadium and I had to answer a question about gossip that had nothing to do with baseball. I had to focus on whoever was on the mound, Kevin Brown, or whoever. But now I have to respond to rumors and gossip. It was an organization very much into gossip. Gossip would make it to the clubhouse and it became a distraction. For example, you go to a meeting with the manager, general manager, team owner, and the person in charge of the media, and you. And you have a private meeting, and the next day the meeting is in the papers. It wasn’t me, then who leaked it? How do you trust that circle? You get to a point where you want to get away from that. Only to find out it was an ‘anonymous source,’ when reporters would come to me with an ‘anonymous source’ I would ask them for names. No name? Then you get no comment or response from me. The gossip just never ends. There were no issues in the clubhouse between the players, it was something that would come from above. I had to be very careful how I spoke and answered questions.”
“If I was asked about Reyes, I would say, ‘Reyes plays with injuries, with pain, in good and bad, when he’s sick, I appreciate his effort, his effort is what’s important. You know where reporters are going with their line of questions and you get tired of it.”
On Willie Randolph… “Willie was our manager, Willie had a philosophy where he told us, ‘If you guys need a day off, just come to my office, talk to me, and no problem, you’ll have your day off.’ Carlos Delgado was at the hospital one night, his wife had given birth, Carlos spent a complicated night in the hospital, he got no sleep, we have a day game and he tells me, ‘brother I’m dead’ I told him to go speak to Willie. Willie takes him out of the lineup, after the game he’s asked why Delgado was not in the lineup, Willie says, ‘Oh he came to me and asked me for the day off’ So I didn’t understand why Willie would say that. If you’re asked that question, just say ‘he deserves a day off, he plays every day’ instead it was ‘he came, and asked me for a day off’ then the reporters started to look at the pitcher that day and his numbers against Delgado, Delgado’s numbers weren’t good against him, and they tried to create a negative story on Delgado. After that, practically no player went to Willie’s office to ask for a day off. We could be dead tired, we saw it as a breach of trust. I told him, Willie don’t worry about me, I’ll play every day, until the day you want to give me a day off because you want to, things changed after that, everything changed.”
“When I had my accident in center field with Mike Cameron. I called my wife and told her I had an accident while playing the outfield, I was going to the hospital, but I was ok. I made that same phone call about 30 times, so my wife went crazy and called the trainer. At the hospital they asked me questions like my name, if I’m married, address, date of birth, age. I didn’t know my date of birth. They asked me my age and I took off a couple of years. The trainer told the doctor my real age. Until I answered correctly, they wouldn’t release me. So, I started looking up my date of birth and address, I started to memorize the answers until I answered the questions correctly and was released. Under current concussion protocol, I wouldn’t have played the rest of the year. The rest of the year I played with headaches, dizziness, I would wake up and lose my balance. I missed three days because of my desire to play, my desire to be there.”
“I had pain in my knees, when I would walk it was like a spike in my knee. In spring training, I was looking at the rookies run the field, and I had doubts if I would ever be able to do that again. After my surgery I had to shop around for knee braces, I tried several until I found one that worked for me. I would feel less pain. From 2009 to 2017 I played with pain in my knees. Every game there was a moment where I would feel slight pain my knee. You know when I stopped feeling that pain? When I retired. I would wake up looking for that pain and it was simply gone.”
Asked about going above the Mets to have surgery… “bro it wasn’t like that, that’s the gossip I told you about. As a player if you get hurt, you have the right to look for second opinion. The Met doctor told me to my face, and my wife, ‘Carlos, I don’t know what else I can do for your knee’ So I go see Steadman, the knee specialist in Colorado. The Met doctor gave Steadman permission to perform my operation. If they don’t give permission, I can’t have the operation. They all signed off on the documents. I wake up in the hospital, I turn to ESPN, and I hear, ‘Carlos Beltran is suspended without pay’ it was a disaster. I get to Spring training, the press, the owner, the owner’s son. I was frustrated. I did what I had to do which was have surgery. The Met doctor had given me permission, I didn’t understand, I was frustrated. The whole thing was unfair. I rehabbed, came back, and when I was told I was going to be traded I didn’t think twice about it. I didn’t feel good at all about being there. I was fed up of being there, fed up of the gossip, I wanted out of that atmosphere. I was traded to San Francisco.”
“When I got to the Yankees there was never any gossip like with the Mets. It was an organization with a lot of championships. More structure. They don’t respond much to the press. They are after a mission. They’re not distracted. Us as Mets would get distracted. We would be doing ok, then something would happen, and we would go off course to solve this issue, and while you’re solving that issue everyone else is heading forward. With the Yankees there’s no loss of focus.”
So glad those owners are gone, not sure the culture has completely changed yet. I wish Beltran was manager.
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Spoke to Bernie Williams about signing with the Yankees and taking his center field spot. “Bernie was a professional, Bernie was at the end of his career.”
Met with Steinbrenner, “we had a good conversation, we hugged in the end, Steinbrenner told me he understood my position, my situation, it was a tough decision to go to Mets, the Yankees were dealing with a luxury tax issue, Steinbrenner offered me a 1-year deal, but I passed since Mets had presented a multi-year contract.”
“At first, I did not understand New York. I was told not to go to the Mets. Mets were not a priority. Yankees were ‘by far’ a priority. In New York it didn’t matter who you were, you’ll get your boo’s like if it was a shower after a game.”
“I didn’t understand, these guys sign me for 7 years, and these fans will boo you, I didn’t understand why. My wife told me It wasn’t personal. The same fan who boos you wants a photo after the game. My wife told me it’s not personal, it’s part of the culture. I thought this is some culture.”
Hit a homerun one day, didn’t want to come out for the curtain call. “Julio Franco told me to go out, I said no. I’m loyal, if you’re with me and I’m with you, I’m with you during the good and the bad. They’re with me now but what about later when I strike out? More boos? No, I’m not going out. I was upset, Julio told me ‘Carlito go out, go out, it’s going to change’ then he forced me out, and I took a quick curtain call, looking down, and came back in. Reporters asked me why and I said why, you have to support me during the bad and the good, you can’t support me during the good and not the bad, I don’t think that’s right.”
Difference between Mets and Yanks … “during my time with the Mets, not comparing them to now, but when I played with them. They currently have a new ownership and are trying to change the culture. When I played with the Mets, I felt they didn’t have an identity. We were a team that was looking to compete with the Yankees, I felt like that was a lack of focus, the Yankees didn’t play in the National League, they played in the American League. Why do we want to compete with the Yankees when we should be competing with the Dodgers? Understand? We didn’t have that focus. That came from the top to the bottom. We were a team that reacted too much to negative news. For example, I would get to the stadium and I had to answer a question about gossip that had nothing to do with baseball. I had to focus on whoever was on the mound, Kevin Brown, or whoever. But now I have to respond to rumors and gossip. It was an organization very much into gossip. Gossip would make it to the clubhouse and it became a distraction. For example, you go to a meeting with the manager, general manager, team owner, and the person in charge of the media, and you. And you have a private meeting, and the next day the meeting is in the papers. It wasn’t me, then who leaked it? How do you trust that circle? You get to a point where you want to get away from that. Only to find out it was an ‘anonymous source,’ when reporters would come to me with an ‘anonymous source’ I would ask them for names. No name? Then you get no comment or response from me. The gossip just never ends. There were no issues in the clubhouse between the players, it was something that would come from above. I had to be very careful how I spoke and answered questions.”
“If I was asked about Reyes, I would say, ‘Reyes plays with injuries, with pain, in good and bad, when he’s sick, I appreciate his effort, his effort is what’s important. You know where reporters are going with their line of questions and you get tired of it.”
On Willie Randolph… “Willie was our manager, Willie had a philosophy where he told us, ‘If you guys need a day off, just come to my office, talk to me, and no problem, you’ll have your day off.’ Carlos Delgado was at the hospital one night, his wife had given birth, Carlos spent a complicated night in the hospital, he got no sleep, we have a day game and he tells me, ‘brother I’m dead’ I told him to go speak to Willie. Willie takes him out of the lineup, after the game he’s asked why Delgado was not in the lineup, Willie says, ‘Oh he came to me and asked me for the day off’ So I didn’t understand why Willie would say that. If you’re asked that question, just say ‘he deserves a day off, he plays every day’ instead it was ‘he came, and asked me for a day off’ then the reporters started to look at the pitcher that day and his numbers against Delgado, Delgado’s numbers weren’t good against him, and they tried to create a negative story on Delgado. After that, practically no player went to Willie’s office to ask for a day off. We could be dead tired, we saw it as a breach of trust. I told him, Willie don’t worry about me, I’ll play every day, until the day you want to give me a day off because you want to, things changed after that, everything changed.”
“When I had my accident in center field with Mike Cameron. I called my wife and told her I had an accident while playing the outfield, I was going to the hospital, but I was ok. I made that same phone call about 30 times, so my wife went crazy and called the trainer. At the hospital they asked me questions like my name, if I’m married, address, date of birth, age. I didn’t know my date of birth. They asked me my age and I took off a couple of years. The trainer told the doctor my real age. Until I answered correctly, they wouldn’t release me. So, I started looking up my date of birth and address, I started to memorize the answers until I answered the questions correctly and was released. Under current concussion protocol, I wouldn’t have played the rest of the year. The rest of the year I played with headaches, dizziness, I would wake up and lose my balance. I missed three days because of my desire to play, my desire to be there.”
“I had pain in my knees, when I would walk it was like a spike in my knee. In spring training, I was looking at the rookies run the field, and I had doubts if I would ever be able to do that again. After my surgery I had to shop around for knee braces, I tried several until I found one that worked for me. I would feel less pain. From 2009 to 2017 I played with pain in my knees. Every game there was a moment where I would feel slight pain my knee. You know when I stopped feeling that pain? When I retired. I would wake up looking for that pain and it was simply gone.”
Asked about going above the Mets to have surgery… “bro it wasn’t like that, that’s the gossip I told you about. As a player if you get hurt, you have the right to look for second opinion. The Met doctor told me to my face, and my wife, ‘Carlos, I don’t know what else I can do for your knee’ So I go see Steadman, the knee specialist in Colorado. The Met doctor gave Steadman permission to perform my operation. If they don’t give permission, I can’t have the operation. They all signed off on the documents. I wake up in the hospital, I turn to ESPN, and I hear, ‘Carlos Beltran is suspended without pay’ it was a disaster. I get to Spring training, the press, the owner, the owner’s son. I was frustrated. I did what I had to do which was have surgery. The Met doctor had given me permission, I didn’t understand, I was frustrated. The whole thing was unfair. I rehabbed, came back, and when I was told I was going to be traded I didn’t think twice about it. I didn’t feel good at all about being there. I was fed up of being there, fed up of the gossip, I wanted out of that atmosphere. I was traded to San Francisco.”
“When I got to the Yankees there was never any gossip like with the Mets. It was an organization with a lot of championships. More structure. They don’t respond much to the press. They are after a mission. They’re not distracted. Us as Mets would get distracted. We would be doing ok, then something would happen, and we would go off course to solve this issue, and while you’re solving that issue everyone else is heading forward. With the Yankees there’s no loss of focus.”
wow that is amazing. i feel somewhat compelled to say theres stuff in there ive never really heard an athlete admit, or maybe only very rarely?
the wilponzi stuff we all knew but hearing him articulate the "gossip culture" is so dead on. that was the jeff wilpon nelson doubleday warned of from start to end (w/ the jlo/arod nonsense).
the willie randolph story and concussion/knee surgery are next level though.
thank you for sharing that dan. if anyone ever compares cohen as an owner to wilponzis again they should have to write out that entire story on a blackboard 1000000x.
-Nick Senzel career vs. lefties .287/.334/.460 (for example) is probably a better use of a roster spot than Short
That f'ing ownership pisses me off. However didn't Beltran agree to manage the Mets when they were still owned by the Wilpons? Or was the Steve Cohen purchase already rumored.
In any event, it's disappointing and eye opening to read that. I am wondering if this was the same attitude in the late 80s when Doubleday was part owner.
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https://nypost.com/2023/11/30/sports/where-yankees-stand-in-juan-soto-yoshinobu-yamamoto-pursuit/. Yankees feel pretty decent about their chances for Yamamoto and Soto but here’s why the odds for them should be better for Soto
soto is estimated to get 33m in arb.
yamamoto is probably getting close to 30m per.
so yankees are basically saying they are all in on a $300m+ payroll (which is +20m over their previous high) before they even fill out the rest of their roster.
from the article:
But they could talk about pitchers Michael King and Clarke Schmidt, and/or pitching prospect Drew Thorpe (they prefer to keep King and Thorpe).
@dan - am i crazy or does a king/schmidt/thorpe return seem unfathomably low for soto? i know the pads want pitchers, but wouldnt something like mauricio + gilbert or acuna + any pitcher in met system + megill blow that offer out of the water?
https://nypost.com/2023/11/30/sports/where-yankees-stand-in-juan-soto-yoshinobu-yamamoto-pursuit/ - ( New Window )
if they get him for a song it's a failure by mets to not at least get the price up.
if competing is what pads want (and i agree it's probably a big factor) pay down marte to free and that's all of a sudden a great free lotto ticket to that end. i have no idea what his odds are of being healthy again, but they aren't zero so if he's free why not?
we've heard before the marlins like baty a ton and have offered some of their pitching for him before - send them baty (or mauricio, or vientos) for some pitching SD can plug in now.
Soto is only 1 year older than Baty. if you can get soto for Baty + some other prospects you do it every single time.
But
When Yankees are going hard this offseason started to bubble a week or two ago. I was told with an eye roll. “Here we go again”
Wrap up was Yanks will be in on Soto, and won’t be willing to give up X, Y, and Z. But secondary names will float that aren’t even fathomable in a Soto trade. Apparently that’s their MO to bump up their prospects in trades 3-9 months down the line.
This doesn’t come from me, and have no clue how true it is. But hearing these names, I did have to laugh.
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So updated @mets have 30 on their 40 man (once these 2 moves are finalized) and yet still have multiple players on the 40 man who could be removed if need be. Plenty of holes but also plenty of room for adds. Guys like Zack Short, Reed Garrett, SRF, Phil Bickford remain so if Stearns wants to go wild with smaller deals he can.
Wouldn’t hurt to overpay by a few dollars on a ton of AAAA, minor league deals. Without taking up off-season slots too ;)
anyone in particular you like that would fit that mold?
nick senzel-ecki
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That f'ing ownership pisses me off. However didn't Beltran agree to manage the Mets when they were still owned by the Wilpons? Or was the Steve Cohen purchase already rumored.
In any event, it's disappointing and eye opening to read that. I am wondering if this was the same attitude in the late 80s when Doubleday was part owner.
Man. That Beltran hiring/firing fiasco stings even more now after reading that. The fact he dealt with all of that and gave it one more chance and he got burned again. Awful.
Really hope to see him on the sidelines again down the road.
yamamoto 💰💰💰
montgomery > e-rod/snell
the rest:
if they really want him it's not hard to envison something like 10x275m for yamamoto.
https://sny.tv/articles/what-about-the-mets-yoshinobu-yamamoto-juan-soto - ( New Window )
But
When Yankees are going hard this offseason started to bubble a week or two ago. I was told with an eye roll. “Here we go again”
Wrap up was Yanks will be in on Soto, and won’t be willing to give up X, Y, and Z. But secondary names will float that aren’t even fathomable in a Soto trade. Apparently that’s their MO to bump up their prospects in trades 3-9 months down the line.
This doesn’t come from me, and have no clue how true it is. But hearing these names, I did have to laugh.
it's funny, id been trying to think of reasons to be so vocal about a pursuit and that's as good as any ive come up with.
If Padres want MLB ready pitching as reported, I try to get pitchers from the Marlins to flip for Soto. Agreed the Mets could put together a better deal than that.
Very wild. 2021: 52 innings, 35 walks, 24 HBP. 2022 injured. Last year: 17 innings, 8 walks and 5 HBP. In other words, the perfect pitcher for when the Mets are up or down big vs the Braves. Plunk a few without even trying
He will be on the 40 man. Major league deal. One year.
@SotoC803
Mauricio at DH and batting 2nd in his 1st LIDOM game of the season.
@AdamRubinMedia
I’m not privy to where this came from and cannot validate every assertion (like the Mets doctor knowing about the Steadman knee surgery). But reading that generally sounds like how things operated.
says for a long time he had a well known tip on his pitches the whole league knew. he knew about it and knows he needs to clean it up but habits are hard to break.
says his fb lost some rise and his slider is down a few mph, but he still did a lot of things well last year. first pitch strikes and mechanics good. just couldnt put people away with 2 strikes and gave up too much hard contact on the FB since it didnt have the rise. thinks its a good signing though.
https://x.com/SNYtv/status/1730391265416798365?s=20 - ( New Window )
@SotoC803
Mauricio at DH and batting 2nd in his 1st LIDOM game of the season.
0-4 with a walk.
This is reminding me of the A-Rod 2000-01 off season
I remember exactly where I was when Ed Coleman told Mike & the Mad Dog the Mets were out on A-Rod!
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Have “moved on” from pursuing Ohtani per Passan
This is reminding me of the A-Rod 2000-01 off season
I remember exactly where I was when Ed Coleman told Mike & the Mad Dog the Mets were out on A-Rod!
a-rod was 25 and wanted to play for mets, they were cheap so instead they criticized him in public (24+1). there hasnt been any speculation ohtani wants to be in ny (either team) so moving on isnt the same as not trying.
there isnt an writer who hasnt speculated the mets to being willing to spend the most on this year's 25 year old star who is open to playing in ny.
I refuse to comment on this any further because you seem like a good dude, but that is one of the most moronic things I've read a Mets fan say on here it's a pretty high bar.
no offense.
Mets aren't exactly in what I would call a clear "win" window.
Mets can allocate their dollars elsewhere.
I've always felt Ohtani would be a weird fit after his injury.
How many things have you heard leak FROM the Mets this offseason. So, why would this be the first leak?
And PJ - your comment "it's a pretty high bar" is absolutely hysterical!!
I refuse to comment on this any further because you seem like a good dude, but that is one of the most moronic things I've read a Mets fan say on here it's a pretty high bar.
no offense.
Pj - ouch!!!
Again I post nonsense - even I don’t compare the situations - it did remind me of being on Udalll road in west Islip in the car when the Mets announced they were out - that’s where it ended. My posts have been missing a lot lately I get it. Today, Dec 1 is my birthday so I ask for a bit of slack from my BBI Mets brothers.
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on Ohtani reminds you of missing out on Arod?
I refuse to comment on this any further because you seem like a good dude, but that is one of the most moronic things I've read a Mets fan say on here it's a pretty high bar.
no offense.
Pj - ouch!!!
Again I post nonsense - even I don’t compare the situations - it did remind me of being on Udalll road in west Islip in the car when the Mets announced they were out - that’s where it ended. My posts have been missing a lot lately I get it. Today, Dec 1 is my birthday so I ask for a bit of slack from my BBI Mets brothers.
Happy Birthday man.
remember when Yanks signed Arod in 04 Mets signed Beltran in 05, and that was the wilpon era. Gotta Have faith
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on Ohtani reminds you of missing out on Arod?
I refuse to comment on this any further because you seem like a good dude, but that is one of the most moronic things I've read a Mets fan say on here it's a pretty high bar.
no offense.
Pj - ouch!!!
Again I post nonsense - even I don’t compare the situations - it did remind me of being on Udalll road in west Islip in the car when the Mets announced they were out - that’s where it ended. My posts have been missing a lot lately I get it. Today, Dec 1 is my birthday so I ask for a bit of slack from my BBI Mets brothers.
lol, no slack even needed.
I was crushed with the way Arod happened.
To me this off-season hinges on Yamamoto who is probably even less ten 50/50 right now. and if the Mets miss on Yamamoto I'd probably find a way to get under the luxury tax and reset. there just aren't enough ways to build a contender IMO - and I'm one who thinks you don't need an ace, you can win with 5 2's/3's if you know what I mean and a really strong bullpen with timely hitting and a good defense.
thankfully we can be pretty confident it will be better than whatever the wilponzis would have delivered. they probably would have offered some gratis nosebleeds against the A's in return for holding your grandma's birthday check "for safe keeping".
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In comment 16309586 pjcas18 said:
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on Ohtani reminds you of missing out on Arod?
I refuse to comment on this any further because you seem like a good dude, but that is one of the most moronic things I've read a Mets fan say on here it's a pretty high bar.
no offense.
Pj - ouch!!!
Again I post nonsense - even I don’t compare the situations - it did remind me of being on Udalll road in west Islip in the car when the Mets announced they were out - that’s where it ended. My posts have been missing a lot lately I get it. Today, Dec 1 is my birthday so I ask for a bit of slack from my BBI Mets brothers.
lol, no slack even needed.
I was crushed with the way Arod happened.
To me this off-season hinges on Yamamoto who is probably even less ten 50/50 right now. and if the Mets miss on Yamamoto I'd probably find a way to get under the luxury tax and reset. there just aren't enough ways to build a contender IMO - and I'm one who thinks you don't need an ace, you can win with 5 2's/3's if you know what I mean and a really strong bullpen with timely hitting and a good defense.
I want Yamamoto. Hell, I'd go 10 years, $300 million for him. But other pitchers out there. They could sign two other SP and have a nice rotation. Say one of Montgomery/Rodriguez, Senga, Quintana, Giolito, Severino
If he gets 10-12 years, I could easily see his contract approaching $300 million. You don't see 25 year old aces come on the market ever. Risk of that long a contract for any pitcher, but wouldn't be shocked with the competition if that's what it took
Quintana, Giolito (6.94 FIP), Severino (6.14 FIP)
are not reliable even as back of the rotation pitchers.
that's like bubble gum and duct tape and you'll still have a $300M payroll or whatever.
So, it's a domino effect for me. Yamamoto makes everyone better and also suggests to me it makes sense to go all in.
with those three as the back 3 of the rotation I feel like better off tearing it down - just my opinion
if i was guess right now it would be mets doing a 10x27m or something like that. and if you are willing to do that what's the different to cohen if it's 10x28, 10x29, or 10x30 if it wins the player?