Following up on the active debate about whether Purdy is a product of a great environment, I vote for him being simply a good QB.
He’s very accurate. His timing is excellent. There were repeated passes against the Seahawks where Purdy got the ball to the receiver the moment they got open. There was one important first down conversion in the 2nd quarter where Purdy was under intense pressure but Deebo broke open at the first down market. Purdy who was scrambling immediately saw Deebo, stopped and within a fraction of a second had the ball out perfectly placed to Deebo for a first down.
Meanwhile Purdy has entirely stopped throwing INTs. He went through a slump in early October but last night’s INT marked his first pick in 6 games.
Accuracy. Timing. Field vision. I think he’s turning into a solution at QB for the 9ers.
I am really impressed with his decision making and accuracy
2 or 3 touchdowns against the Pats
or come back to earth? I am rooting for
DeVito. He won’t have Waller and probably not
Slayton. BB will take Saqoun out of the game.
So he will have to work with a poor line Hodgins
Wandale and Bellinger.
I am really impressed with his decision making and accuracy
The plays may help Purdy out but the overall system is anything but friendly for QBs. Remember Matt Ryan in Atlanta? The first year was nothing short of a disaster yet the 2md yeqr they went to the SB. He puts a ton on the QB with the motions, getting all the players lined up correctly, doing it in a timely manner, and knowing where to go with the ball. Purdy's best attribute is a tie between his composure and his processing speed. Yes, I think the system helps him out but he has earned where he is right now especially seeing where a guy like Lance failed.
There is a lot that goes into a QB being successful. I think there is a lot to building confidence young.
Not saying he is anywhere close to a Tom Brady but Brady lucked into similar circumstances. He got to have success over time while learning to be great and having a tremendous team to rely on.
Put Purdy on another team he still might be good, but he may not be seen as the franchise QB early on without having everything else in play.
There is a lot that goes into a QB being successful. I think there is a lot to building confidence young.
Not saying he is anywhere close to a Tom Brady but Brady lucked into similar circumstances. He got to have success over time while learning to be great and having a tremendous team to rely on.
Put Purdy on another team he still might be good, but he may not be seen as the franchise QB early on without having everything else in play.
Great points.
I'd like to see what SFs average starting field position is.
At least the Niner’s FO realized their mistake and traded him to the Cowboys.
At least the Niner’s FO realized their mistake and traded him to the Cowboys.
What do you mean by tool set because the reason he was drafted so high was because of his tools. He didn't succeed because of what is between his ears.
Purdy can only succeed in a handful of situations, whereas Jones can succeed in virtually none.
Yeah, oline or ER or CB.
If DeVito could do what he did last week on two full weeks as #1 QB, think what Purdy could do. True he has better weapons at SF. But he'd make Barkley a lot better, would actually throw to Hyatt and probably find Bellinger while getting the ball out quickly to Robinson.
I think with Purdy the Giants are 6-5 (Jets, Buffalo, LV).
If we have to say, “He didn’t have Trent Williams and Deebo Samuels” when Purdy plays poorly, well 99% of the league doesn’t have those guys. Purdy is playing well, but he has all of the infinity stones with him.
If we have to say, “He didn’t have Trent Williams and Deebo Samuels” when Purdy plays poorly, well 99% of the league doesn’t have those guys. Purdy is playing well, but he has all of the infinity stones with him.
Purdy didn’t play near as badly without Williams and Deebo as people believe. He threw some uncharacteristic interceptions during the 3 game losing streak but aside from the Cleveland game he was still very productive. Against Cincinnati he was 22-31 365 yards and a TD. He also rushed for 57 yards. People are making a bigger deal of his performance because he’s been fairly flawless otherwise. I’d take a QB on my team any day that we bemoan a performance like that as being a poor one…
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His arm is special. The ball coming out is easier to see, react to and catch, than those QBs who throw a rocket.
If he turns back into a pumpkin there....
Purdy didn’t play near as badly without Williams and Deebo as people believe. He threw some uncharacteristic interceptions during the 3 game losing streak but aside from the Cleveland game he was still very productive. Against Cincinnati he was 22-31 365 yards and a TD. He also rushed for 57 yards. People are making a bigger deal of his performance because he’s been fairly flawless otherwise. I’d take a QB on my team any day that we bemoan a performance like that as being a poor one…
The numbers look good when you don’t mention he turned the ball over three times in four drives. People are making a big deal of his performance in those games because that’s when he wasn’t playing with all of the infinity stones. Yet he still had McCaffrey, Kittle, Aiyuk, and Juszczyk, but was turning the ball over precipitously.
If he turns back into a pumpkin there....
He can beat anyone when he’s playing with a full deck.
IMO, that just says more about the “deck” than it does about him.
If he turns back into a pumpkin there....
He has every intangible you could want in a QB, Cane. And Collingsworth’s observation that he’s faster running than he appears is telling . He can’t drive the deep out , which is the signature throw in evaluating arm strength . But he needn’t do so for them to win a championship .
He’s also centered and humble . The story about him spending the bye week at his girlfriend’s family farm should be contrasted with the ass-clown behavior Dak Prescott exhibited yesterday .
I’m not sure either can win a conference championship game in Philadelphis . But I know who can handle adversity better .
Love watching their offense operate . Hey they’ve had better nights . The crowd noise factor in Seattle is unique to the league . But it is so intricate , physical and nasty . And , contrary to what you read on this board , letting Feliciano get away was a terrible mistake by the Giants . He gives you reliable depth at 3 positions . He filled in well for Banks, who along with Martin, are the 2 best guards in the game . Now he’s put the starting right guard on the bench . And he would have helped Michael -Schmidt transition into the NFL. But such is to digress . Count me in on Purdy .
Except we wouldn’t be drafting a QB.
You see, I don’t understand this comment. Aren’t accuracy, anticipation and field vision QB skills?
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Purdy didn’t play near as badly without Williams and Deebo as people believe. He threw some uncharacteristic interceptions during the 3 game losing streak but aside from the Cleveland game he was still very productive. Against Cincinnati he was 22-31 365 yards and a TD. He also rushed for 57 yards. People are making a bigger deal of his performance because he’s been fairly flawless otherwise. I’d take a QB on my team any day that we bemoan a performance like that as being a poor one…
The numbers look good when you don’t mention he turned the ball over three times in four drives. People are making a big deal of his performance in those games because that’s when he wasn’t playing with all of the infinity stones. Yet he still had McCaffrey, Kittle, Aiyuk, and Juszczyk, but was turning the ball over precipitously.
Oh please. If Daniel Jones ever put up 22-31 365 and rushed for 57 yards in a close loss to Cincinnati all you Jones fanboys would be ranting on thread after thread about his heroic performance and chalk up the 2 INTs as him just trying to do too much while dragging the team to the finish line all by himself. That game would join the Minnesota game in the folklore for Jones fans forever.
But for a player taken with the very last pick of the draft, you get to sit back and criticize him because he threw a couple of INTs despite the terrific numbers otherwise. It sure would be nice if you clowns had these same expectations for your $40M QB.
Oh please. If Daniel Jones ever put up 22-31 365 and rushed for 57 yards in a close loss to Cincinnati all you Jones fanboys would be ranting on thread after thread about his heroic performance and chalk up the 2 INTs as him just trying to do too much while dragging the team to the finish line all by himself. That game would join the Minnesota game in the folklore for Jones fans forever.
But for a player taken with the very last pick of the draft, you get to sit back and criticize him because he threw a couple of INTs despite the terrific numbers otherwise. It sure would be nice if you clowns had these same expectations for your $40M QB.
Jones fanboys? Are you drunk? I thought we were discussing Brock Purdy.
I’ll never understand why people think you can automatically transfer what you see in a highly advantageous situation (San Fran is perhaps the highest) to what you would see in a highly disadvantageous situation. Pat Mahomes is putting up the worst numbers of his career nearly across the board. Is it because of “processing speed”? Of course not. His receivers are somehow worse than last year’s and the offensive line isn’t nearly as effective. That’s how Mahomes currently has a YPA better than only the worst starting QBs in the sport. And there are situations clearly worse than that around the sport. That’s how Brock Purdy managed to commit more than half of his fumbles and interceptions in the 3 games he played without Deebo (two of which featured no Trent Williams and one featured a not at full strength McCaffrey). Keep in mind, Purdy still had Aiyuk, Kittle, McCaffrey, and the best fullback (along with one of the best play callers) at his disposal.
Considering the inarguable fall off in Purdy’s play just in the absence of a few of his highly talented teammates, I think it’s fair to question what he would do in a situation that lacked nearly all of these guys.
But Purdy doesn't have idea size, arm talent or athleticism that make him a good long-term candidate for the position. He's at his ceiling as far as I'm concerned and the 9ers should ride him until his contract is up. And not over pay him if they decide on round two.
If I'm Lynch, I'm still looking to draft other QBs somewhere on day three.
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Maybe not superior skills but he can do all the right things.
You see, I don’t understand this comment. Aren’t accuracy, anticipation and field vision QB skills?
I agree with you. People here think athletic traits are just size, strength, speed. But Purdy has other athletic traits. The ones you mention.
Also consistency is an athletic trait.
So is quickness.
Agreed. You have to give Purdy props for sure, BUT it really is the perfect place for him to have landed. Great coach, system, and there's a hell of a lot of talent on that team.
Purdy can only succeed in a handful of situations, whereas Jones can succeed in virtually none.
Purdy had his problems when his key guys got injured. He wasn’t seeing the field or making quick decisions.
But Purdy doesn't have idea size, arm talent or athleticism that make him a good long-term candidate for the position. He's at his ceiling as far as I'm concerned and the 9ers should ride him until his contract is up. And not over pay him if they decide on round two.
If I'm Lynch, I'm still looking to draft other QBs somewhere on day three.
If the Niners are really carrying Purdy so much in your eyes, they've still got Sam Darnold for cheap, likely better than average QB you'd draft.
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who plays for a HC who knows how to develop him to fit his great system with an exceptional supporting cast.
But Purdy doesn't have idea size, arm talent or athleticism that make him a good long-term candidate for the position. He's at his ceiling as far as I'm concerned and the 9ers should ride him until his contract is up. And not over pay him if they decide on round two.
If I'm Lynch, I'm still looking to draft other QBs somewhere on day three.
If the Niners are really carrying Purdy so much in your eyes, they've still got Sam Darnold for cheap, likely better than average QB you'd draft.
Purdy is better than Darnold. So, why would they do that?
Again, Purdy is a good QB and he's executing plays at a fairly high level. He blends in very well with what Shanahan is trying to do.
But I don't view Purdy as the type of player who has the high-level skills to convey to any situation. Players like Allen, Mahomes, Herbert have those skills.
Good for him to overachieve from his draft status but the situation has a lot to do with it.
Too often people fall in love with the big arm or fast athlete but QB is mostly about lightning fast smart decisions, intelligence to read a defense and make calls, quick release and distribution. He can do all that without a cannon for an arm or running like a deer. For some reason that’s confusing to the general population.
Don’t look now but I think Tommy DeVito has a couple of these qualities too. His performance against Washington and style of play reminded me a lot of another UDFA, Tony Romo.
He worked on his mechanics post draft combine and throws with much more velocity than he did at college. He is clocked at 56 mph. Average for an NFL QB is 51 mph.
He pushes the ball down field as seen by his YPA. He has shown lately that he can go outside the numbers.
Athletically he is beyond what scouts recognized initially. His 10 yard split is the same as Lamar Jackson's.
His best attributes are his processing which is superior, vision and anticipation. His footwork and base are very good.
He went to the best situation possible.
Still, they got ridiculously lucky with that pick.