actually bode well for Rivera. Why fire two coaches now if the entire staff is gone next year? Only other explanation would be these coaches behavior behind the scenes. I think Rivetboat Ron might get another shot. Whatever you think of him as a coach, he is an impressive guy; new owner might want to see more.
actually bode well for Rivera. Why fire two coaches now if the entire staff is gone next year? Only other explanation would be these coaches behavior behind the scenes. I think Rivetboat Ron might get another shot. Whatever you think of him as a coach, he is an impressive guy; new owner might want to see more.
Rivera is a lame duck. The fan base has completely soured on him, and new owners will be happy to make their mark and bring in their guy.
Gary, normally, you might have a point, but agree with JB here... I think ownership is simply signaling to the fan base that massive changes are coming.
If they are going to go QB in the first round, we want them to start winning some games.
In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
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Problem is that the OC probably has the inside track on the HC job. He has only been there for a short time and has a top passing offense. Nothing will change on offense.
In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
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Problem is that the OC probably has the inside track on the HC job. He has only been there for a short time and has a top passing offense. Nothing will change on offense.
I think if that was true they would have fired Rivera too and taken him for a test drive before the season ends.
Lemieux love on BBI? I am sure it wasn't 100% but I cannot remember anyone recently showing love for Lemieux. In fact, the only people that showed love for Lemieux recently was this coaching staff.
I think the Lemieux love comments are directed at me, as I continually have said, "don't count out Lemieux."
He simply never could stay healthy, in total opposite of the 52 straight games he started in college (hate to say it, but Evan Neal never got hurt in college either).
It wasn't just this coaching staff who tried to start Lemieux. Judge's staff did too.
actually bode well for Rivera. Why fire two coaches now if the entire staff is gone next year? Only other explanation would be these coaches behavior behind the scenes. I think Rivetboat Ron might get another shot. Whatever you think of him as a coach, he is an impressive guy; new owner might want to see more.
Rivera is done. Those fans are completely done with him and while listening to the pulse of your fanbase may not always be the best way to conduct business, that new ownership group has focused on winning back fans and giving them hope for the future. Keeping Rivera would be a strange way to win over the fanbase and give them that hope moving forward
actually bode well for Rivera. Why fire two coaches now if the entire staff is gone next year? Only other explanation would be these coaches behavior behind the scenes. I think Rivetboat Ron might get another shot. Whatever you think of him as a coach, he is an impressive guy; new owner might want to see more.
Id put the chances of Rivera being back next year at about zero. He’s desperate, and trying to make it look like it’s his defensive coaches’ fault. Maybe Ron forgot who hired them.
New owner is going to want to bring in his own guys. The riverboat is sinking.
Rivera but perhaps this is their way of protecting Eric B, ie not interim HC and the team falls apart- makes him look bad. If they truly have an interest in him being the HC next year, they need Rivera to be the fall guy the rest of the way and hope the offense keeps playing well enough..
actually bode well for Rivera. Why fire two coaches now if the entire staff is gone next year? Only other explanation would be these coaches behavior behind the scenes. I think Rivetboat Ron might get another shot. Whatever you think of him as a coach, he is an impressive guy; new owner might want to see more.
Id put the chances of Rivera being back next year at about zero. He’s desperate, and trying to make it look like it’s his defensive coaches’ fault. Maybe Ron forgot who hired them.
New owner is going to want to bring in his own guys. The riverboat is sinking.
Wouldn’t be the first time I read the tea leaves wrong. So long Ron, we’ll miss (beating) you.
I think the Lemieux love comments are directed at me, as I continually have said, "don't count out Lemieux."
He simply never could stay healthy, in total opposite of the 52 straight games he started in college (hate to say it, but Evan Neal never got hurt in college either).
It wasn't just this coaching staff who tried to start Lemieux. Judge's staff did too.
Yep, both staffs loved him but I have never seen him look like anything more than a PS player. He simply cannot pass block. It is like the opposite of Will Hernandez who could pass block but sucked at run blocking. The fact that guys like Hernandez are still playing tells me we at least whiffed so much on our OL over the years. I just don't get how we can continually have arguable the worst OL in the NFL year after year after year and not see improvement.
True, but who knows if the Giants could have got him at a cheaper deal before letting him hit FA? Just speculation on my part, but the Giants have a track record of letting serviceable depth OL leave to keep total dogshit player like Lemieux and Peart clog this roster.
True, but who knows if the Giants could have got him at a cheaper deal before letting him hit FA? Just speculation on my part, but the Giants have a track record of letting serviceable depth OL leave to keep total dogshit player like Lemieux and Peart clog this roster.
In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
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Problem is that the OC probably has the inside track on the HC job. He has only been there for a short time and has a top passing offense. Nothing will change on offense.
Their offense outside of 3-4 games where they tacked on yardage has been poor.
Their D shouldn't be so bad, and Rivera's only chance to stay -- slim as it is -- is shaking things up. Bienemy has a highly functional offense, and if Rivera is gone, he is going to at least get interviewed.
Was credited with fixing the Bills OL in a season. Good players and good situations make good coaches and visca versa.
As Eric said the Skins defense has been excellent under Del Rio in recent years. Sometimes good coaches get bad results.
This. But I'm merely pointing out if they fire Bobby Johnson right now, there is no one to replace him except an assistant who was coaching at Holy Cross last season. (And Johnson likely had a say in his hiring).
The Giants also lost their veteran assistant ST coach this offseason. The guys who are assistants don't have a lot of ST experience.
on getting Jim Harbaugh to come in, after all that's happened at Michigan.
I wouldn't be shocked if they gave him full control on getting his own GM as well. It would be the best way to get their fan base back...but is JH interested?
I think the Lemieux love comments are directed at me, as I continually have said, "don't count out Lemieux."
He simply never could stay healthy, in total opposite of the 52 straight games he started in college (hate to say it, but Evan Neal never got hurt in college either).
It wasn't just this coaching staff who tried to start Lemieux. Judge's staff did too.
If he had had a healthy career, he'd be the starting center right now. It was always the position he was best suited for and was getting practice reps there during his rookie camp. It mitigates his athletic limitations while his leadership, toughness, and intelligence shine.
He played well at C before the injury. But, no way could we sign him to the contract he signed with Washington.
Just as our history with the Eagles has been horrible I terms of wins and losses and players we have gotten from them
Washington has been where we can count on a W and over-pay our players.
I guess the 2 are connected - if they always beat us - let’s get their players….
In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
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Problem is that the OC probably has the inside track on the HC job. He has only been there for a short time and has a top passing offense. Nothing will change on offense.
I think if that was true they would have fired Rivera too and taken him for a test drive before the season ends.
IMV, if you are going to give a guy a shot at HC, you need to give him an offseason, pre-season and a complete season to see what kind of coach he might be.
A mid-season changing of the guard isn't going to tell you whether or not he can handle the job.
Not the theme of this thread but nobody should be worrying
pretty well after that, getting 9 sacks last week and then fire the DC?
Del Rio has underachieved wherever he has gone. He is one of the mediocrities among the coaching fraternity that Brady talked about the other day. The mystery is never why he got fired; the mystery is always how did he last as long as he did.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
Those lamenting the loss of Gates... SMH.
Washington's defense before this year is the one thing that kept them competitive.
Rivera is a lame duck. The fan base has completely soured on him, and new owners will be happy to make their mark and bring in their guy.
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In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
Those lamenting the loss of Gates... SMH.
There were people on here actually missing Gates. It was...astonishing.
If they are going to go QB in the first round, we want them to start winning some games.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
Problem is that the OC probably has the inside track on the HC job. He has only been there for a short time and has a top passing offense. Nothing will change on offense.
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In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
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Problem is that the OC probably has the inside track on the HC job. He has only been there for a short time and has a top passing offense. Nothing will change on offense.
I think if that was true they would have fired Rivera too and taken him for a test drive before the season ends.
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In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
Those lamenting the loss of Gates... SMH.
Would have been better depth than freakin Lemieux though.
Lemieux love on BBI? I am sure it wasn't 100% but I cannot remember anyone recently showing love for Lemieux. In fact, the only people that showed love for Lemieux recently was this coaching staff.
He simply never could stay healthy, in total opposite of the 52 straight games he started in college (hate to say it, but Evan Neal never got hurt in college either).
It wasn't just this coaching staff who tried to start Lemieux. Judge's staff did too.
Rivera is done. Those fans are completely done with him and while listening to the pulse of your fanbase may not always be the best way to conduct business, that new ownership group has focused on winning back fans and giving them hope for the future. Keeping Rivera would be a strange way to win over the fanbase and give them that hope moving forward
You had it right.
Id put the chances of Rivera being back next year at about zero. He’s desperate, and trying to make it look like it’s his defensive coaches’ fault. Maybe Ron forgot who hired them.
New owner is going to want to bring in his own guys. The riverboat is sinking.
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actually bode well for Rivera. Why fire two coaches now if the entire staff is gone next year? Only other explanation would be these coaches behavior behind the scenes. I think Rivetboat Ron might get another shot. Whatever you think of him as a coach, he is an impressive guy; new owner might want to see more.
Id put the chances of Rivera being back next year at about zero. He’s desperate, and trying to make it look like it’s his defensive coaches’ fault. Maybe Ron forgot who hired them.
New owner is going to want to bring in his own guys. The riverboat is sinking.
Wouldn’t be the first time I read the tea leaves wrong. So long Ron, we’ll miss (beating) you.
He simply never could stay healthy, in total opposite of the 52 straight games he started in college (hate to say it, but Evan Neal never got hurt in college either).
It wasn't just this coaching staff who tried to start Lemieux. Judge's staff did too.
Yep, both staffs loved him but I have never seen him look like anything more than a PS player. He simply cannot pass block. It is like the opposite of Will Hernandez who could pass block but sucked at run blocking. The fact that guys like Hernandez are still playing tells me we at least whiffed so much on our OL over the years. I just don't get how we can continually have arguable the worst OL in the NFL year after year after year and not see improvement.
Exactly!
And who replaces them?
True, but who knows if the Giants could have got him at a cheaper deal before letting him hit FA? Just speculation on my part, but the Giants have a track record of letting serviceable depth OL leave to keep total dogshit player like Lemieux and Peart clog this roster.
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for $16.5 million?
True, but who knows if the Giants could have got him at a cheaper deal before letting him hit FA? Just speculation on my part, but the Giants have a track record of letting serviceable depth OL leave to keep total dogshit player like Lemieux and Peart clog this roster.
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NY fires OL and ST and whoever coach but I guess NY doesn’t do that kind of stuff.
And who replaces them?
There are always replacements somewhere. Didnt Buffalo, Wash, and Pitt replace the guys they recently fired?
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In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
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Problem is that the OC probably has the inside track on the HC job. He has only been there for a short time and has a top passing offense. Nothing will change on offense.
Their offense outside of 3-4 games where they tacked on yardage has been poor.
Bienemy has very little chance at the job.
As Eric said the Skins defense has been excellent under Del Rio in recent years. Sometimes good coaches get bad results.
As Eric said the Skins defense has been excellent under Del Rio in recent years. Sometimes good coaches get bad results.
This. But I'm merely pointing out if they fire Bobby Johnson right now, there is no one to replace him except an assistant who was coaching at Holy Cross last season. (And Johnson likely had a say in his hiring).
The Giants also lost their veteran assistant ST coach this offseason. The guys who are assistants don't have a lot of ST experience.
I wouldn't be shocked if they gave him full control on getting his own GM as well. It would be the best way to get their fan base back...but is JH interested?
Makes sense.
New owner same stupid moves. At least we beat these jokers.
That whole staff will be replaced. Fans want a new start, and Harris will give it to them.
He simply never could stay healthy, in total opposite of the 52 straight games he started in college (hate to say it, but Evan Neal never got hurt in college either).
It wasn't just this coaching staff who tried to start Lemieux. Judge's staff did too.
Just as our history with the Eagles has been horrible I terms of wins and losses and players we have gotten from them
Washington has been where we can count on a W and over-pay our players.
I guess the 2 are connected - if they always beat us - let’s get their players….
Before this last two weeks I think someone would have.
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In a rebuild themselves. Biggest hurdle is getting the HC right. They can try Howell again in a better offense and with some upgrades on the line.
Gates was a bad signing by them. He got benched a few weeks ago.
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Problem is that the OC probably has the inside track on the HC job. He has only been there for a short time and has a top passing offense. Nothing will change on offense.
I think if that was true they would have fired Rivera too and taken him for a test drive before the season ends.
A mid-season changing of the guard isn't going to tell you whether or not he can handle the job.