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Coaching staff changes would you like Daboll to make in 24?

NYG27 : 11/24/2023 1:30 pm
If Daboll is returning for the 2024 season, what coaching staff changes would you like to see made?

Here would be some of my choices...

Offensive Coordinator - Mike Kafka
Offensive Line Coach - Bobby Johnson
Special Teams Coordinator - Thomas McGaughey
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/24/2023 1:33 pm : link
Both Johnson & T-Mac need to be shown the door.
I could see giving Kafka a mulligan  
Giantsfan79 : 11/24/2023 1:35 pm : link
In the name of continuity but absolutely want a new coach at special teams and oline
Outside  
BigBlueinDE : 11/24/2023 1:37 pm : link
of normal turnover, I'd expect to see a new OL coaching staff and ST staff as well. Possibly S&C as well.
The OP nailed it  
BigBlueNH : 11/24/2023 1:40 pm : link
I think those 3 are gone. Not sure about others.
Im not sold on Kafka leaving just yet  
bigbluewillrise : 11/24/2023 1:56 pm : link
i want a new OL coach and ST coach for sure.

The harder part of the question  
gary_from_chester : 11/24/2023 2:06 pm : link
Is who do you want to replace them?

A young up and comer? A seasoned pro with a track record of success? Who is or might be available?

I have a feeling Ken Dorsey might be in the running; not sure how to feel about that. Need to think about which head coaches and staffs are on the hot seat and who might shake loose. I’d love us to get OL guru, someone with a long and proven track record.
OL & ST for sure  
Daniel in Kentucky : 11/24/2023 2:06 pm : link
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OL and ST for sure  
5BowlsSoon : 11/24/2023 2:15 pm : link
OC is still on trial. Let’s see how the remaining season plays out.
Seems the consensus  
Bleedin Blue : 11/24/2023 2:50 pm : link
Is for Definitely firing Johnson, McGauhey, with Kafka on the bubble. Couldn’t agree more! Especially Johnson, Thomas is a stud, so Johnson shouldn’t get ALL the credit for his turnaround! What has he done with the others, NADA! McGauhey’s Special Teams have floundered, he may have been retained due to Mara’s loyalty and the fact the guy was dealing with cancer, but he’s got to go.
Kafka, he’s a horse of a different color, seemed to be restrictive in his play calling the first two years, but with our line play you gotta be somewhat conservative; I say 24 is his prove it year.
JMHO
at least they have dorsey as an option for daboll  
bigbluewillrise : 11/24/2023 2:52 pm : link
munchak has to be atop the list for OL coach.

need to find out if any veteran ST coach is avaialble.
RE: ...  
BrettNYG10 : 11/24/2023 2:55 pm : link
In comment 16300110 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Both Johnson & T-Mac need to be shown the door.


Yeah, agreed.

I don't see the point of retaining the HC and swapping out every other coordinator.
If you can give Daboll a mulligan for Jones  
widmerseyebrow : 11/24/2023 3:09 pm : link
then I think you have to extend that to Kafka as well.

Johnson though...not encouraging that our young linemen seem to be regressing under his tutelage.
If the blocking is as bad as has been made out  
Gruber : 11/24/2023 3:11 pm : link
in another thred, then what responsibility, if any, does Kafka have for that?
Bobby Johnson has to go … keeping him would be huge mistake.  
Spider56 : 11/24/2023 3:25 pm : link
The OC question is interesting. If Kafka goes, then Ken Dorsey would probably be Dabs’ next choice … but would he be better? The teams performance over the remaining games will tell the story.
I wouldn’t count on Dorsey  
dancing blue bear : 11/24/2023 3:38 pm : link
Dabs loves shea teirney. He’s been with dabs since bama getting groomed.

That said Kafka was good last year. We saw it. It happened. It’s in there.
The team is as not ready to start the season. They tried to force the evolution on offense when no body was ready for it. And then injuries.

The whole staff and team couldn’t stop the bleeding for a month and a half

The offense has been improving since. as has the blocking. Just very slowly.


I like tmac but there is far too many mistakes with assignments and numbers on the field. The returners are not his decision or fault. Coverage has been good and the hammer did develop but too many mistakes to ignore.


It’s hard to judge the OL coach but the 1st month or so it was like nobody knew their assignment. It was disgracefully bad. Overall no one has shown significant improvement in a 1.5+ years. V
They need to write munchak  
Mattman : 11/24/2023 4:28 pm : link
A blank check
We need an OLINE coach….  
BigGnNC : 11/24/2023 4:58 pm : link
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Surprised no one  
Bill in UT : 11/24/2023 6:57 pm : link
has mentioned Wink. Personally, I'd like to see a more normal defensive alignment, I don't really care for the 2 man DL.
RE: The harder part of the question  
BigBlueinDE : 11/25/2023 11:27 am : link
In comment 16300142 gary_from_chester said:
Quote:
Is who do you want to replace them?

A young up and comer? A seasoned pro with a track record of success? Who is or might be available?

I have a feeling Ken Dorsey might be in the running; not sure how to feel about that. Need to think about which head coaches and staffs are on the hot seat and who might shake loose. I’d love us to get OL guru, someone with a long and proven track record.


Seasoned pro with a track record of success.
Johnson and McGaughy  
logman : 11/25/2023 7:10 pm : link
Kafka can stay. If you watch the All 22, you'll see his scheming is actually working, but there's not a QB on the roster that can capitalize on it consistently.
On what basis to you think Johnson should be shown the door?  
fanoftheteam : 11/25/2023 10:54 pm : link
Does anyone even have one tangible thing they can point to that he does wrong that has led to poor play?

Theres not a lot of talent in case you missed it.
Kafka should not be gone  
ElitoCanton : 11/25/2023 11:17 pm : link
every single week, he schemes guys open all over the field. But the QB play has been shit, so people are blaming him. It is such nonsense.
I'd  
Torn Tendon : 11/26/2023 3:05 am : link
Like to see someone from the Shanghai tree be added as QB coach or offensive assistant if not OC. Need online coaches with a history of developing linemen.
fanoftheteam  
bronxboy : 11/26/2023 7:46 am : link
Real simple. Not one OL has improved play under Johnson.
McGaughey should go  
HBart : 11/26/2023 8:28 am : link
STs don't look well coached, and there's been repeated FG/EP blocking issues.

I hope we retain Kafka, as I suspect anyone who watches tape does. Giants receivers are wide open running amok. As Randy Mueller said, you can't outperform your OL. If the OL stays healthy, I feel like Kafka/Daboll can scheme as well as anyone.

I hope Johnson stays too, as of now anyway. The OL needs continuity, and I think 4/5ths of a solid 2024 OL is probably on the roster. Some things just take time.
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