It hung up forever. An NFL GM is going to get fired taking Nix
agreed with all of this. Not sure anyone ever questions his arm strength or ability to make the throws. But its the decision to make that throw, which makes him a questionable nfl starting QB.
It hung up forever. An NFL GM is going to get fired taking Nix
He found an open space to place the ball on the opposite side of the field for a big play while scrambling. I’d say that is impressive awareness and a good play.
All QBs get an opportunity to fine tune their games
It's one of the unknowns when drafting a QB. How will he respond to the increased speed and athleticism. The greats figure it out. Maybe Bo Nix makes the adjustment.
ability he doesn't have what teams are looking for in a top pick. Doesn't have a big arm. He's not big. The offense he plays in is not an NFL type offense. He's barely ever even hit. And he's going to be 23 in February.
Someone will take him in the late first or early 2nd but he wont be in the discussion with the top guys
It hung up forever. An NFL GM is going to get fired taking Nix
agreed with all of this. Not sure anyone ever questions his arm strength or ability to make the throws. But its the decision to make that throw, which makes him a questionable nfl starting QB.
Could one argue the decision was based on how open the receiver was? And that he wouldn't have let it fly against an NFL defense where the receiver would've been less open?
Most fans don’t have a clue about QB evaluation. Everyone buys into the big arm at the big program. People forget that QB play is about the big picture and the ability to play to the situation.
Nix has all the arm needed to play in the NFL. Even though he hasn’t been subjected to pressures, he shows he has a clock in his head and when to get rid of the ball. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and wait for the rush to get him- he gets out and gets rid of the ball. He is decisive with his throws- and anticipates the coverage better than some of his receivers.
Just in tonight’s game, he has had several perfect throws in tight coverage. He makes rapid decisions based on the matchup. That throw that many are trying to use against him was actually a master class in understanding the matchup- he had a much bigger WR who could outmuscle the DB- and threw the ball to allow him to high point it. The throw is not dissimilar to those Hurts makes for AJ Brown.
People get so hung up on what they THINK they know that they lose sight of when a QB is showing them HOW to play the position. Brock Purdy is making a LOT of teams look silly for overlooking how well he understood the position just because he doesn’t have a big arm or the prototypical measurements. Nix will do the same.
Could see someone trading into the late 1st for the extra year on him but ultimately probably a second round pick.
I think some of the concerns listed are correct but to throw 37 TD’s to 2 int’s on a 78% completion percentage is very impressive.
Jayden Daniels is the guy who is in tier 1 but hasn’t been discussed enough. He’ll go top 10, probably right where the Giants pick. I think he can be every bit as good as Williams & Maye. My understanding is he already makes full field progressions in Brian Kelly’s offense.
I still like Penix but he needs a team with a stout OL. If you give him time he’s surgical.
Good year for QB’s, hopefully Schoen & Daboll have the ability to get their guy.
If the Giants win a few more games, Williams, Maye, and Daniels will likely not be available. Nix, Penix, McCarthy, and Rattler will be. Link - ( New Window )
Rattler?
Take him off the radar. Substitute Cam Ward, Ewers, Beck.
Jayden Daniels is the guy who is in tier 1 but hasn’t been discussed enough. He’ll go top 10, probably right where the Giants pick. I think he can be every bit as good as Williams & Maye. My understanding is he already makes full field progressions in Brian Kelly’s offense.
Daniels has been discussed extensively here for the last six weeks.
Most fans don’t have a clue about QB evaluation. Everyone buys into the big arm at the big program. People forget that QB play is about the big picture and the ability to play to the situation.
Nix has all the arm needed to play in the NFL. Even though he hasn’t been subjected to pressures, he shows he has a clock in his head and when to get rid of the ball. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and wait for the rush to get him- he gets out and gets rid of the ball. He is decisive with his throws- and anticipates the coverage better than some of his receivers.
Just in tonight’s game, he has had several perfect throws in tight coverage. He makes rapid decisions based on the matchup. That throw that many are trying to use against him was actually a master class in understanding the matchup- he had a much bigger WR who could outmuscle the DB- and threw the ball to allow him to high point it. The throw is not dissimilar to those Hurts makes for AJ Brown.
People get so hung up on what they THINK they know that they lose sight of when a QB is showing them HOW to play the position. Brock Purdy is making a LOT of teams look silly for overlooking how well he understood the position just because he doesn’t have a big arm or the prototypical measurements. Nix will do the same.
Brock Purdy took whats called an “S2” Test which doesn’t measure intelligence but how quickly you process information. Its becoming increasingly popular. This year 800 prospects are taking it. He scored in the mid 90’s which apparently was comparable to Drew Brees. Very elite
There’s an article on The Athletic about it, I’m not subscribed though. I’m gonna keep an eye out for how these QB’s grade out on it, I hope that info will be readily available.
right in face and throws a perfect strike 15 yards down the field just now
That was very impressive.
He’s done it several times on this drive.
What boggles the mind is how many people repeat until they are blue in the face that Jones is not a good QB- but can’t put their finger on WHY. it is because he has no anticipation or understanding of the big picture. No matter how hard he works or says the right things, because he does not have those things, he can only achieve moderate success.
Nix has proven over and over that not only does he know where to go, but he knows the match-up and coverage. He also has that all-critical clock in his head and doesn’t panic when the rush is in his face- he just makes a decisive throw to where the receiver WILL be- not waiting for him to get open.
It should be obvious to everyone here that arm strength is an over-rated quality when the QB has a 10 cent understanding of what is happening around them. No amount of “work” or “preparation” will cure that flaw. A QB who knows where to go and where they mismatches are- and stays cool and calm, knowing what will happen, even with a pass rush coming will outplay that big-armed QB that fans love.
Jayden Daniels is the guy who is in tier 1 but hasn’t been discussed enough. He’ll go top 10, probably right where the Giants pick. I think he can be every bit as good as Williams & Maye. My understanding is he already makes full field progressions in Brian Kelly’s offense.
Daniels has been discussed extensively here for the last six weeks.
I haven’t been as active on here but I haven’t seen him mentioned with Maye and Williams. Even the media mostly mentions those 2 names right now. Local radio keeps talking as if missing out on either guy is essentially game over. I think by draft time he’ll be discussed top 5.
If the Giants win a few more games, Williams, Maye, and Daniels will likely not be available. Nix, Penix, McCarthy, and Rattler will be. Link - ( New Window )
Daniels has been discussed extensively here for the last six weeks.
I haven’t been as active on here but I haven’t seen him mentioned with Maye and Williams. Even the media mostly mentions those 2 names right now. Local radio keeps talking as if missing out on either guy is essentially game over. I think by draft time he’ll be discussed top 5.
I think JD should be in the discussion as the top pick. He's the most dynamic player in the draft who just happens to play QB.
If the Giants win a few more games, Williams, Maye, and Daniels will likely not be available. Nix, Penix, McCarthy, and Rattler will be. Link - ( New Window )
Good catch Acid. He’s a name to watch
I will say that I have NOT AT ALL been impressed with Penix. He might have the strongest arm in the draft- but his accuracy is WELL below average. He also does not have that “clock” in his head or a good understanding of what he is seeing on the field. In many ways, he reminds me of Jones.
With that said, I DO like Daniel’s quite a bit. However, he needs more development. With Daboll, he might be a good candidate to watch Jones for about half a season while doing a NFL weight program. The one concern I have is that he appears to be a one-read and run guy right now. He needs to have a MUCH better understanding of what he is seeing in front of him and be more decisive on where to go. On the other hand, that speed gets him out of some jams that other QB would fail in.
I think Penix is a late 1st/early 2nd round guy. Daniels is a first rounder- but I worry that he will go to a team that does not develop him and gets him pounded like Indy did with Richardson.
Jayden Daniels is the guy who is in tier 1 but hasn’t been discussed enough. He’ll go top 10, probably right where the Giants pick. I think he can be every bit as good as Williams & Maye. My understanding is he already makes full field progressions in Brian Kelly’s offense.
Daniels has been discussed extensively here for the last six weeks.
I haven’t been as active on here but I haven’t seen him mentioned with Maye and Williams. Even the media mostly mentions those 2 names right now. Local radio keeps talking as if missing out on either guy is essentially game over. I think by draft time he’ll be discussed top 5.
I would be thrilled to miss out on those two and yet land on Daniels.
I think I like McCarthy more than Nix as #4 on my list.
is a very good college QB with a ton of experience having tremendous last campaign.
Decent size, decent arm, good athleticism, good mobility.
Why do those attributes sound like a lottery pick or even first round material?
I wouldn't touch this guy until maybe day two. And that may be stretch.
Literally my write up as well and I have seen him a lot. Older prospect also. It feels like he has played for 10 years. Saying that I wouldn’t be opposed to getting into pick 30-32 to take a chance if the cost isn’t to much. He has talent.
I can see him dropping to the 3rd and 4th though.
RE: RE: I think I like McCarthy more than Nix as #4 on my list.
Daniels is moving up quickly. I think he is the guy I would be most excited to draft.
This I don’t get. But again, I’m no expert.
Tomorrow is going to be telling but if you watch McCarthy he progresses so well and keeps his eyes down field while scrambling. I am really high on McCarthy.
Most fans don’t have a clue about QB evaluation. Everyone buys into the big arm at the big program. People forget that QB play is about the big picture and the ability to play to the situation.
Nix has all the arm needed to play in the NFL. Even though he hasn’t been subjected to pressures, he shows he has a clock in his head and when to get rid of the ball. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and wait for the rush to get him- he gets out and gets rid of the ball. He is decisive with his throws- and anticipates the coverage better than some of his receivers.
Just in tonight’s game, he has had several perfect throws in tight coverage. He makes rapid decisions based on the matchup. That throw that many are trying to use against him was actually a master class in understanding the matchup- he had a much bigger WR who could outmuscle the DB- and threw the ball to allow him to high point it. The throw is not dissimilar to those Hurts makes for AJ Brown.
People get so hung up on what they THINK they know that they lose sight of when a QB is showing them HOW to play the position. Brock Purdy is making a LOT of teams look silly for overlooking how well he understood the position just because he doesn’t have a big arm or the prototypical measurements. Nix will do the same.
Good post. I agree with you that we have people here who post often and seem to have acquired the mantle of QB expert. They never show up on other threads. One such expert wants do whatever it takes to get that guy or draft 3 QBs this year.
Daniels is moving up quickly. I think he is the guy I would be most excited to draft.
I have no idea how anyone could compare McCarthy and nix and could think McCarthy comes out ahead.
Mind boggling….
Better arm. Better mobility. He’s only 20. More accurate downfield.
More to the game than just stats.
Also - rumor has it that McCarthy is playing on a sprained MCL. Hurt it during Penn state game which is why he hasn’t been used in the run game and they have been very conservative.
If he isn’t 100% today - they’ll get beat pretty easily cause OSU’s ends will terrorize Michigans tackles.
complex question.
We know that Brock Purdy was the last player drafted. But now he looks like he should have gone much higher. If Bo Nix had come out last year would he have been drafted ahead of Purdy?
I am now absolutely certain that processing speed is far more important than arm strength. Watching Purdy carve up defenses with his middling arm strength(not saying he is a noodle arm at all) is impressive.
IMV, that he is 23 y/o is unimportant - 24 at draft. If he plays 12 years that gets him to 36. 12 years is a lot of NFL time for anyone.
A lot of Giants fans who want to take a QB this year seem to be against the prospect of Nix due to his lack of superior physical traits. I’ve seen some people call him the Daniel Jones of this QB class.
The Jones comparison is ridiculous since Nix is elite at processing and short/intermediate accuracy. I would feel 1000 percent confident with Daboll utilizing a system that maximizes Nix’s strengths and immediately provides a high floor of QB production. Is he a future top-5 guy? Maybe not, but a Purdy or Tua level standard of play can get you to contender level pretty fast if you build a good team.
Most fans don’t have a clue about QB evaluation. Everyone buys into the big arm at the big program. People forget that QB play is about the big picture and the ability to play to the situation.
Nix has all the arm needed to play in the NFL. Even though he hasn’t been subjected to pressures, he shows he has a clock in his head and when to get rid of the ball. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and wait for the rush to get him- he gets out and gets rid of the ball. He is decisive with his throws- and anticipates the coverage better than some of his receivers.
Just in tonight’s game, he has had several perfect throws in tight coverage. He makes rapid decisions based on the matchup. That throw that many are trying to use against him was actually a master class in understanding the matchup- he had a much bigger WR who could outmuscle the DB- and threw the ball to allow him to high point it. The throw is not dissimilar to those Hurts makes for AJ Brown.
People get so hung up on what they THINK they know that they lose sight of when a QB is showing them HOW to play the position. Brock Purdy is making a LOT of teams look silly for overlooking how well he understood the position just because he doesn’t have a big arm or the prototypical measurements. Nix will do the same.
Good post. I agree with you that we have people here who post often and seem to have acquired the mantle of QB expert. They never show up on other threads. One such expert wants do whatever it takes to get that guy or draft 3 QBs this year.
You guys get so upset with opinions
I never thought of Bo Nix as ELITE in any aspect of the QB position
And playing good defenses. Where Daniels turned into an elite college QB while going to the SEC. I don’t think there’s anything that Nix does at an elite level that is going to translate to elite at the NFL level. He gets happy feet when his first read is taken away. Also keep in mind he gets all his pre snap reads from the sideline. That’s not going to happen in the NFL. NFL teams aren’t going to be able to replicate everything that has made him a drastically different QB than the one we saw at Auburn.
is a very good college QB with a ton of experience having tremendous last campaign.
Decent size, decent arm, good athleticism, good mobility.
Why do those attributes sound like a lottery pick or even first round material?
I wouldn't touch this guy until maybe day two. And that may be stretch.
In answer to your question, because teams are desperate for QBs. There are not 32 quarterbacks you can reasonably expect to lead a team to a Super Bowl. At any given time there are between 5 and 20 depending who you ask. I lean towards 20, but still any guy who has even a small, but decent chance to be in that 20, is in the discussion for first round and "lottery" picks. There is no other position in football (in sports?) with this situation.
agreed with all of this. Not sure anyone ever questions his arm strength or ability to make the throws. But its the decision to make that throw, which makes him a questionable nfl starting QB.
He strikes me as Sam Howell with better teammates. I’m not remotely interested.
It's one of the unknowns when drafting a QB. How will he respond to the increased speed and athleticism. The greats figure it out. Maybe Bo Nix makes the adjustment.
Someone will take him in the late first or early 2nd but he wont be in the discussion with the top guys
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It hung up forever. An NFL GM is going to get fired taking Nix
agreed with all of this. Not sure anyone ever questions his arm strength or ability to make the throws. But its the decision to make that throw, which makes him a questionable nfl starting QB.
Could one argue the decision was based on how open the receiver was? And that he wouldn't have let it fly against an NFL defense where the receiver would've been less open?
Decent size, decent arm, good athleticism, good mobility.
Why do those attributes sound like a lottery pick or even first round material?
I wouldn't touch this guy until maybe day two. And that may be stretch.
Decent size, decent arm, good athleticism, good mobility.
Why do those attributes sound like a lottery pick or even first round material?
I wouldn't touch this guy until maybe day two. And that may be stretch.
^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^
Shouldn’t be considered for us.
Nix has all the arm needed to play in the NFL. Even though he hasn’t been subjected to pressures, he shows he has a clock in his head and when to get rid of the ball. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and wait for the rush to get him- he gets out and gets rid of the ball. He is decisive with his throws- and anticipates the coverage better than some of his receivers.
Just in tonight’s game, he has had several perfect throws in tight coverage. He makes rapid decisions based on the matchup. That throw that many are trying to use against him was actually a master class in understanding the matchup- he had a much bigger WR who could outmuscle the DB- and threw the ball to allow him to high point it. The throw is not dissimilar to those Hurts makes for AJ Brown.
People get so hung up on what they THINK they know that they lose sight of when a QB is showing them HOW to play the position. Brock Purdy is making a LOT of teams look silly for overlooking how well he understood the position just because he doesn’t have a big arm or the prototypical measurements. Nix will do the same.
If the Giants win a few more games, Williams, Maye, and Daniels will likely not be available. Nix, Penix, McCarthy, and Rattler will be.
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I think some of the concerns listed are correct but to throw 37 TD’s to 2 int’s on a 78% completion percentage is very impressive.
Jayden Daniels is the guy who is in tier 1 but hasn’t been discussed enough. He’ll go top 10, probably right where the Giants pick. I think he can be every bit as good as Williams & Maye. My understanding is he already makes full field progressions in Brian Kelly’s offense.
I still like Penix but he needs a team with a stout OL. If you give him time he’s surgical.
Good year for QB’s, hopefully Schoen & Daboll have the ability to get their guy.
That was very impressive.
If the Giants win a few more games, Williams, Maye, and Daniels will likely not be available. Nix, Penix, McCarthy, and Rattler will be. Link - ( New Window )
Rattler?
Take him off the radar. Substitute Cam Ward, Ewers, Beck.
Jayden Daniels is the guy who is in tier 1 but hasn’t been discussed enough. He’ll go top 10, probably right where the Giants pick. I think he can be every bit as good as Williams & Maye. My understanding is he already makes full field progressions in Brian Kelly’s offense.
Daniels has been discussed extensively here for the last six weeks.
Nix has all the arm needed to play in the NFL. Even though he hasn’t been subjected to pressures, he shows he has a clock in his head and when to get rid of the ball. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and wait for the rush to get him- he gets out and gets rid of the ball. He is decisive with his throws- and anticipates the coverage better than some of his receivers.
Just in tonight’s game, he has had several perfect throws in tight coverage. He makes rapid decisions based on the matchup. That throw that many are trying to use against him was actually a master class in understanding the matchup- he had a much bigger WR who could outmuscle the DB- and threw the ball to allow him to high point it. The throw is not dissimilar to those Hurts makes for AJ Brown.
People get so hung up on what they THINK they know that they lose sight of when a QB is showing them HOW to play the position. Brock Purdy is making a LOT of teams look silly for overlooking how well he understood the position just because he doesn’t have a big arm or the prototypical measurements. Nix will do the same.
Brock Purdy took whats called an “S2” Test which doesn’t measure intelligence but how quickly you process information. Its becoming increasingly popular. This year 800 prospects are taking it. He scored in the mid 90’s which apparently was comparable to Drew Brees. Very elite
There’s an article on The Athletic about it, I’m not subscribed though. I’m gonna keep an eye out for how these QB’s grade out on it, I hope that info will be readily available.
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right in face and throws a perfect strike 15 yards down the field just now
That was very impressive.
He’s done it several times on this drive.
What boggles the mind is how many people repeat until they are blue in the face that Jones is not a good QB- but can’t put their finger on WHY. it is because he has no anticipation or understanding of the big picture. No matter how hard he works or says the right things, because he does not have those things, he can only achieve moderate success.
Nix has proven over and over that not only does he know where to go, but he knows the match-up and coverage. He also has that all-critical clock in his head and doesn’t panic when the rush is in his face- he just makes a decisive throw to where the receiver WILL be- not waiting for him to get open.
It should be obvious to everyone here that arm strength is an over-rated quality when the QB has a 10 cent understanding of what is happening around them. No amount of “work” or “preparation” will cure that flaw. A QB who knows where to go and where they mismatches are- and stays cool and calm, knowing what will happen, even with a pass rush coming will outplay that big-armed QB that fans love.
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Jayden Daniels is the guy who is in tier 1 but hasn’t been discussed enough. He’ll go top 10, probably right where the Giants pick. I think he can be every bit as good as Williams & Maye. My understanding is he already makes full field progressions in Brian Kelly’s offense.
Daniels has been discussed extensively here for the last six weeks.
I haven’t been as active on here but I haven’t seen him mentioned with Maye and Williams. Even the media mostly mentions those 2 names right now. Local radio keeps talking as if missing out on either guy is essentially game over. I think by draft time he’ll be discussed top 5.
If the Giants win a few more games, Williams, Maye, and Daniels will likely not be available. Nix, Penix, McCarthy, and Rattler will be. Link - ( New Window )
Good catch Acid. He’s a name to watch
Daniels has been discussed extensively here for the last six weeks.
I haven’t been as active on here but I haven’t seen him mentioned with Maye and Williams. Even the media mostly mentions those 2 names right now. Local radio keeps talking as if missing out on either guy is essentially game over. I think by draft time he’ll be discussed top 5.
I think JD should be in the discussion as the top pick. He's the most dynamic player in the draft who just happens to play QB.
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Giants have scouts at the game.
If the Giants win a few more games, Williams, Maye, and Daniels will likely not be available. Nix, Penix, McCarthy, and Rattler will be. Link - ( New Window )
Good catch Acid. He’s a name to watch
I will say that I have NOT AT ALL been impressed with Penix. He might have the strongest arm in the draft- but his accuracy is WELL below average. He also does not have that “clock” in his head or a good understanding of what he is seeing on the field. In many ways, he reminds me of Jones.
With that said, I DO like Daniel’s quite a bit. However, he needs more development. With Daboll, he might be a good candidate to watch Jones for about half a season while doing a NFL weight program. The one concern I have is that he appears to be a one-read and run guy right now. He needs to have a MUCH better understanding of what he is seeing in front of him and be more decisive on where to go. On the other hand, that speed gets him out of some jams that other QB would fail in.
I think Penix is a late 1st/early 2nd round guy. Daniels is a first rounder- but I worry that he will go to a team that does not develop him and gets him pounded like Indy did with Richardson.
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Jayden Daniels is the guy who is in tier 1 but hasn’t been discussed enough. He’ll go top 10, probably right where the Giants pick. I think he can be every bit as good as Williams & Maye. My understanding is he already makes full field progressions in Brian Kelly’s offense.
Daniels has been discussed extensively here for the last six weeks.
I haven’t been as active on here but I haven’t seen him mentioned with Maye and Williams. Even the media mostly mentions those 2 names right now. Local radio keeps talking as if missing out on either guy is essentially game over. I think by draft time he’ll be discussed top 5.
This I don’t get. But again, I’m no expert.
I have no idea how anyone could compare McCarthy and nix and could think McCarthy comes out ahead.
Mind boggling….
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Daniels is moving up quickly. I think he is the guy I would be most excited to draft.
This I don’t get. But again, I’m no expert.
In regards to McCarthy
Decent size, decent arm, good athleticism, good mobility.
Why do those attributes sound like a lottery pick or even first round material?
I wouldn't touch this guy until maybe day two. And that may be stretch.
Literally my write up as well and I have seen him a lot. Older prospect also. It feels like he has played for 10 years. Saying that I wouldn’t be opposed to getting into pick 30-32 to take a chance if the cost isn’t to much. He has talent.
I can see him dropping to the 3rd and 4th though.
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Daniels is moving up quickly. I think he is the guy I would be most excited to draft.
This I don’t get. But again, I’m no expert.
Tomorrow is going to be telling but if you watch McCarthy he progresses so well and keeps his eyes down field while scrambling. I am really high on McCarthy.
To my eye there are three exceptional qualities in this QB class: Daniels's mobility, Williams's off schedule talent, and Penix's accuracy.
Nix has all the arm needed to play in the NFL. Even though he hasn’t been subjected to pressures, he shows he has a clock in his head and when to get rid of the ball. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and wait for the rush to get him- he gets out and gets rid of the ball. He is decisive with his throws- and anticipates the coverage better than some of his receivers.
Just in tonight’s game, he has had several perfect throws in tight coverage. He makes rapid decisions based on the matchup. That throw that many are trying to use against him was actually a master class in understanding the matchup- he had a much bigger WR who could outmuscle the DB- and threw the ball to allow him to high point it. The throw is not dissimilar to those Hurts makes for AJ Brown.
People get so hung up on what they THINK they know that they lose sight of when a QB is showing them HOW to play the position. Brock Purdy is making a LOT of teams look silly for overlooking how well he understood the position just because he doesn’t have a big arm or the prototypical measurements. Nix will do the same.
Good post. I agree with you that we have people here who post often and seem to have acquired the mantle of QB expert. They never show up on other threads. One such expert wants do whatever it takes to get that guy or draft 3 QBs this year.
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Bears GM Ryan Poles and Giants GM Joe Schoen are credentialed to be at Autzen Stadium
To my eye there are three exceptional qualities in this QB class: Daniels's mobility, Williams's off schedule talent, and Penix's accuracy.
Ahh yes- you never fail to show your true metric when it comes to QB's..
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Daniels is moving up quickly. I think he is the guy I would be most excited to draft.
I have no idea how anyone could compare McCarthy and nix and could think McCarthy comes out ahead.
Mind boggling….
Better arm. Better mobility. He’s only 20. More accurate downfield.
More to the game than just stats.
Also - rumor has it that McCarthy is playing on a sprained MCL. Hurt it during Penn state game which is why he hasn’t been used in the run game and they have been very conservative.
If he isn’t 100% today - they’ll get beat pretty easily cause OSU’s ends will terrorize Michigans tackles.
We know that Brock Purdy was the last player drafted. But now he looks like he should have gone much higher. If Bo Nix had come out last year would he have been drafted ahead of Purdy?
I am now absolutely certain that processing speed is far more important than arm strength. Watching Purdy carve up defenses with his middling arm strength(not saying he is a noodle arm at all) is impressive.
IMV, that he is 23 y/o is unimportant - 24 at draft. If he plays 12 years that gets him to 36. 12 years is a lot of NFL time for anyone.
The Jones comparison is ridiculous since Nix is elite at processing and short/intermediate accuracy. I would feel 1000 percent confident with Daboll utilizing a system that maximizes Nix’s strengths and immediately provides a high floor of QB production. Is he a future top-5 guy? Maybe not, but a Purdy or Tua level standard of play can get you to contender level pretty fast if you build a good team.
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Most fans don’t have a clue about QB evaluation. Everyone buys into the big arm at the big program. People forget that QB play is about the big picture and the ability to play to the situation.
Nix has all the arm needed to play in the NFL. Even though he hasn’t been subjected to pressures, he shows he has a clock in his head and when to get rid of the ball. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and wait for the rush to get him- he gets out and gets rid of the ball. He is decisive with his throws- and anticipates the coverage better than some of his receivers.
Just in tonight’s game, he has had several perfect throws in tight coverage. He makes rapid decisions based on the matchup. That throw that many are trying to use against him was actually a master class in understanding the matchup- he had a much bigger WR who could outmuscle the DB- and threw the ball to allow him to high point it. The throw is not dissimilar to those Hurts makes for AJ Brown.
People get so hung up on what they THINK they know that they lose sight of when a QB is showing them HOW to play the position. Brock Purdy is making a LOT of teams look silly for overlooking how well he understood the position just because he doesn’t have a big arm or the prototypical measurements. Nix will do the same.
Good post. I agree with you that we have people here who post often and seem to have acquired the mantle of QB expert. They never show up on other threads. One such expert wants do whatever it takes to get that guy or draft 3 QBs this year.
You guys get so upset with opinions
Decent size, decent arm, good athleticism, good mobility.
Why do those attributes sound like a lottery pick or even first round material?
I wouldn't touch this guy until maybe day two. And that may be stretch.
In answer to your question, because teams are desperate for QBs. There are not 32 quarterbacks you can reasonably expect to lead a team to a Super Bowl. At any given time there are between 5 and 20 depending who you ask. I lean towards 20, but still any guy who has even a small, but decent chance to be in that 20, is in the discussion for first round and "lottery" picks. There is no other position in football (in sports?) with this situation.