Some notable games today with playoff seeding implications.
Ohio State at Michigan 12PM
Kentucky at Louisville 12PM
Alabama at Auburn 3:30
Washington St at Washington 4:00
Florida State at Florida 7:00
Georgia at Georgia Tech 7:30
So, you think a guy who is 10-1, after playing in two of the last three FBS playoffs, should be fired because they lost to the better team?
I didn’t say he should be fired. I said I think he’ll be fired, or asked to leave.
No chance he's getting fired or asked to leave after this year. If they lose again next year then its possible, but no fricking way they are canning him this off-season.
I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.
Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.
There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.
Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.
I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot
I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.
Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.
There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.
Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.
I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot
Again, its not as simple as them firing him. A&M has oil money and is again desperate to make a splash.
If they offer Ryan Day $100m to leave is OSU gonna match? More likely they say "thanks for everything, good luck"
If the A&M rumor wasn't out there then this is less of a conversation but he also has to consider leaving a year too soon compared to a year too late.
Similar situation to Kiffin at Ole Miss, if he can find ways to consistently win 9-10 games then they won't even bother him. That gets him fired at Ohio State. Factor in the money and its enticing.
I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.
Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.
There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.
Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.
I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot
FWIW, OSU should have lost to ND and the only reason is stupidity by ND's DC...
Coach of the year imo. Incredibly impressive what he's done at Arizona. McMillan looks like a very good WR, only a sophmore.
Fun fact - from Livingston, he went to Hanover Park and never even played football. Was college roommates with Howie Roseman, went there with the purpose of working under Spurrier. Eventually became a GA under him.
I think Oregon can beat anyone in the country, including Georgia. Very good on both sides of the ball. Cristobal started to toughen that program up and Lanning has brought it to the next level.
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
RE: RE: RE: I still think Williams is the top QB prospect
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame
I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
I agree with you that William has a better arm talent than Daniels; however, I really question Williams’ antics. He acts like a child. If the Giants are going to consider him as their pick, they’re going to have to get into his head to see if he can handle the New York media. As of now, I’m not convinced he can take the heat.
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
I agree with you that William has a better arm talent than Daniels; however, I really question Williams’ antics. He acts like a child. If the Giants are going to consider him as their pick, they’re going to have to get into his head to see if he can handle the New York media. As of now, I’m not convinced he can take the heat.
You are going to be very surprised Re what scouts and teams think of Daniels arm talent compared to Williams leading up to the draft. Daniels has a cannon and his release is the best I have seen in awhile. Word is getting out on Daniels arm and more specifically his lightning release. Even Sy has indicated there is a lot more to Daniels that will come out leading to the draft as his arrow is pointed north in a big way.
are having a rough game in Bama-Auburn. How on earth was that 4th down play not offsetting? They snapped the ball with 3 guys moving at the time of the snap. It should have been offsetting and replay 4th down.
are having a rough game in Bama-Auburn. How on earth was that 4th down play not offsetting? They snapped the ball with 3 guys moving at the time of the snap. It should have been offsetting and replay 4th down.
I guess the only possible explanation is the refs were confused by the motion and took it as the offsides cause the oline to move. Terrible call.
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
Well, we disagree.
RE: RE: Crazy part is McCarthy and Daniels are basically
The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame
I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments
I am a Michigan fan, was at the game against Maryland, and noted on this board that McCarthy played poorly. If you don’t believe me check last week’s thread. He played much better today, which I think is a bit obvious to an unbiased observer.
I’ve also said I believe McCarthy is in the 2nd tier after Williams/Maye/Daniels. The second tier to me is Penix Jr, McCarthy, Nix, Ward, Sanders.
I know people love to hate on Michigan fans but I’m really tired of it. Hate on the team fine. But please try to use facts to support your argument.
Coach of the year imo. Incredibly impressive what he's done at Arizona. McMillan looks like a very good WR, only a sophmore.
Fun fact - from Livingston, he went to Hanover Park and never even played football. Was college roommates with Howie Roseman, went there with the purpose of working under Spurrier. Eventually became a GA under him.
Cool story.
Didn’t he coach under Harbaugh too?
RE: RE: RE: Crazy part is McCarthy and Daniels are basically
The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame
I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments
I am a Michigan fan, was at the game against Maryland, and noted on this board that McCarthy played poorly. If you don’t believe me check last week’s thread. He played much better today, which I think is a bit obvious to an unbiased observer.
I’ve also said I believe McCarthy is in the 2nd tier after Williams/Maye/Daniels. The second tier to me is Penix Jr, McCarthy, Nix, Ward, Sanders.
I know people love to hate on Michigan fans but I’m really tired of it. Hate on the team fine. But please try to use facts to support your argument.
Yes, you did say McCarthy played poorly against Maryland. But let’s not pretend that you haven’t also followed that up with mentioning he was playing injured every chance you get.
I also never mentioned you or said that YOU were letting your emotions get in the way of your evaluations. Must be that guilty conscience kicking in here.
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B/c he has lost three straight to Michigan
So, you think a guy who is 10-1, after playing in two of the last three FBS playoffs, should be fired because they lost to the better team?
I didn’t say he should be fired. I said I think he’ll be fired, or asked to leave.
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B/c he has lost three straight to Michigan
So, you think a guy who is 10-1, after playing in two of the last three FBS playoffs, should be fired because they lost to the better team?
I didn’t say he should be fired. I said I think he’ll be fired, or asked to leave.
No chance he's getting fired or asked to leave after this year. If they lose again next year then its possible, but no fricking way they are canning him this off-season.
Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.
I don't think Day will be fired but this was a really bad loss imv with JH being out and all the other stuff Michigan had to deal with.
Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.
There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.
Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.
I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot
I was just thinking man Ward is off then boom! Two very nice plays.
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I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.
Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.
There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.
Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.
I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot
Again, its not as simple as them firing him. A&M has oil money and is again desperate to make a splash.
If they offer Ryan Day $100m to leave is OSU gonna match? More likely they say "thanks for everything, good luck"
If the A&M rumor wasn't out there then this is less of a conversation but he also has to consider leaving a year too soon compared to a year too late.
Similar situation to Kiffin at Ole Miss, if he can find ways to consistently win 9-10 games then they won't even bother him. That gets him fired at Ohio State. Factor in the money and its enticing.
That was blatant a Facemask as you can see in CFB.
Even the announcers, Nessler and Daniels called it as such.
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I think some of you are underestimating how angry Ohio State fans are at him.
Michigan hadn’t won three straight on Ohio State since 1995-1997.
There isnt a no brainer hire out there. That's the only way I would see them doing it this year.
Ohio State fans are dumb but they're not that dumb. He out coached Kirby last year in the semifinal badly. If Harrison doesn't get hurt or the kicker makes the field goal they win a national championship.
I absolutely hate the guy, but he's not getting canned this off-season. If Ohio State fired him you would have some schools considering canning their own coach to get him. If he got canned and I'm PSU i'd fire franklin and hire him on the spot
FWIW, OSU should have lost to ND and the only reason is stupidity by ND's DC...
Fun fact - from Livingston, he went to Hanover Park and never even played football. Was college roommates with Howie Roseman, went there with the purpose of working under Spurrier. Eventually became a GA under him.
Cool story.
I think Oregon can beat anyone in the country, including Georgia. Very good on both sides of the ball. Cristobal started to toughen that program up and Lanning has brought it to the next level.
How people see this guy as a first round talent doesn’t make sense.
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments
I believe so
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
I agree with you that William has a better arm talent than Daniels; however, I really question Williams’ antics. He acts like a child. If the Giants are going to consider him as their pick, they’re going to have to get into his head to see if he can handle the New York media. As of now, I’m not convinced he can take the heat.
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
I agree with you that William has a better arm talent than Daniels; however, I really question Williams’ antics. He acts like a child. If the Giants are going to consider him as their pick, they’re going to have to get into his head to see if he can handle the New York media. As of now, I’m not convinced he can take the heat.
You are going to be very surprised Re what scouts and teams think of Daniels arm talent compared to Williams leading up to the draft. Daniels has a cannon and his release is the best I have seen in awhile. Word is getting out on Daniels arm and more specifically his lightning release. Even Sy has indicated there is a lot more to Daniels that will come out leading to the draft as his arrow is pointed north in a big way.
I guess the only possible explanation is the refs were confused by the motion and took it as the offsides cause the oline to move. Terrible call.
He was at the Florida St./LSU game earlier this season
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But I’d put Daniels a clear second.
The lead up to the draft is a funny and real thing. Williams will be dissected mentally and physically. Only knock on Daniels is his slender frame but everyone knows that is addressed by a nfl weight and strength program. Will add 10-15 pounds easily.
Something to think about…look at what Jackson is doing for Baltimore this year. Daniels is a much better passer at this stage and his release time is off the charts. Daniels has a legit chance to go #1. Remember, it only takes one team to be smitten with him….
I'll take Daniels. More accurate, better arm. More explosive and dynamic. Makes reads through all progressions. Never looks rattled. My bet is he will weigh 220 by the combine and be QB 1. 4 TD passes against that defense is impressive. Better than anything Williams or Maye has done. He'll be gone when the Giants pick.
Daniels doesn't have a better arm than Williams. That's absurd. Williams has established he can throw with incredible accuracy and power on the run, from different arm angles, into tight windows. Williams has the best overall arm talent in the class.
Well, we disagree.
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The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame
I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments
I am a Michigan fan, was at the game against Maryland, and noted on this board that McCarthy played poorly. If you don’t believe me check last week’s thread. He played much better today, which I think is a bit obvious to an unbiased observer.
I’ve also said I believe McCarthy is in the 2nd tier after Williams/Maye/Daniels. The second tier to me is Penix Jr, McCarthy, Nix, Ward, Sanders.
I know people love to hate on Michigan fans but I’m really tired of it. Hate on the team fine. But please try to use facts to support your argument.
Fun fact - from Livingston, he went to Hanover Park and never even played football. Was college roommates with Howie Roseman, went there with the purpose of working under Spurrier. Eventually became a GA under him.
Cool story.
Didn’t he coach under Harbaugh too?
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The same size, but only one gets questions about their frame
I believe most of the McCarthy fanfare is coming from Michigan fans on this site. Most unbiased observers aren’t near as high on him. Michigan fans are letting their hearts get in the way of honest assessments
I am a Michigan fan, was at the game against Maryland, and noted on this board that McCarthy played poorly. If you don’t believe me check last week’s thread. He played much better today, which I think is a bit obvious to an unbiased observer.
I’ve also said I believe McCarthy is in the 2nd tier after Williams/Maye/Daniels. The second tier to me is Penix Jr, McCarthy, Nix, Ward, Sanders.
I know people love to hate on Michigan fans but I’m really tired of it. Hate on the team fine. But please try to use facts to support your argument.
Yes, you did say McCarthy played poorly against Maryland. But let’s not pretend that you haven’t also followed that up with mentioning he was playing injured every chance you get.
I also never mentioned you or said that YOU were letting your emotions get in the way of your evaluations. Must be that guilty conscience kicking in here.
Holy fuck