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What if TD Tommy looks good the rest of the way?

Jerz44 : 11/26/2023 8:42 am
Big if I know.

BUT- what if he looks like a serviceable QB (say 12-20 range) and they win 6-7 games total?
Then he becomes our #2 next year  
DefenseWins : 11/26/2023 8:43 am : link
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RE: Then he becomes our #2 next year  
4xchamps : 11/26/2023 8:50 am : link
In comment 16301367 DefenseWins said:
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Exactly.
If he’s our #2  
Jerz44 : 11/26/2023 8:51 am : link
Does that mean we’re going with Jones?

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2023 8:51 am : link
Well he's looked better than Jones did when DJ was behind center.
Or we trade him  
armstead98 : 11/26/2023 8:52 am : link
Definitely a good thing if Devito develops into a quality QB, gives us many options.
what should happen?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/26/2023 8:52 am : link
He should compete for the starting job with Daniel Jones and whomever is drafted.
If we draft at 7-10 record  
Jerz44 : 11/26/2023 9:05 am : link
We’re not going to be in a position to get a top prospect.

Will they still trade assets to move up to get one or shoot for a 2nd rounder?
If he continues to improve  
johnnyb : 11/26/2023 9:06 am : link
he becomes a solid option for backup QB. I am not so sure you can win consistently with him as the starter.
We should call him  
JALAPEN0 : 11/26/2023 9:07 am : link
Tommy Tickles
RE: ...  
Toth029 : 11/26/2023 9:23 am : link
In comment 16301377 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Well he's looked better than Jones did when DJ was behind center.


He's looked better than Bryce Young.

The draft sure is funny.
Yes it means they  
section125 : 11/26/2023 9:25 am : link
won't likely need TT next year.
The OP is asking what if he plays like the #12 QB in football.  
jinkies : 11/26/2023 9:30 am : link
And you guys are saying, then he's a backup.

If he plays like the #12 QB in the NFL, then he's an absolute starting QB, but...

He's not going to, because he's not that good, and best case for DeVito is, he's a backuo.
You still draft a QB  
Rick in Dallas : 11/26/2023 9:49 am : link
He can be a backup QB.
Which would help our salary cap as Taylor would no longer be needed.
DCs will have a half season  
Blueworm : 11/26/2023 9:57 am : link
Of video to break down.

How he changes in response will be key.

I guess he determines if he has that opportunity.
RE: The OP is asking what if he plays like the #12 QB in football.  
nochance : 11/26/2023 10:04 am : link
In comment 16301407 jinkies said:
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And you guys are saying, then he's a backup.

If he plays like the #12 QB in the NFL, then he's an absolute starting QB, but...

He's not going to, because he's not that good, and best case for DeVito is, he's a backuo.



Wait till all the DC's have game film on him. I don't see him as a Tom Brady
He currently holds the ball too long....  
Simms11 : 11/26/2023 10:05 am : link
which apparently was one of his issues coming out of college. That will lead to sacks. He also cannot read defenses that well yet. Good thing is he can scan the field and find the open receiver, but probably is a work in progress pre-snap still. He seems to be developing, but he’s got to play to gain that experience too. To me he looks like a solid back up QB. He’s like another Kent Graham with better wheels.
He'll compete for a '24 job  
HBart : 11/26/2023 10:11 am : link
If Jones is healed in time for camp, he'll enter as the Game 1 starter. DeVito and whoever is drafted will compete for QB2, and if nothing unexpected happens Jones will start with all bets off if the offense isn't humming after a few games.

If Jones isn't healthy by camp he gets PUP'd. Then see above except substitute QB1 for QB2.
If we draft a QB early  
Jolly Blue Giant : 11/26/2023 10:20 am : link
The only way he is the backup is if we cut jones (tons of dead cap), IR Jones, or carry three QBs.
No matter what  
Pete in MD : 11/26/2023 10:21 am : link
happens the rest of the way, he will be on the team next year and should be given every opportunity to compete for any spot on the depth chart, including QB1.

Nobody on this team should be given a starting job because of their name or where they were drafted.
LOL  
ZogZerg : 11/26/2023 10:22 am : link
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RE: If we draft at 7-10 record  
Lambuth_Special : 11/26/2023 10:29 am : link
In comment 16301384 Jerz44 said:
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We’re not going to be in a position to get a top prospect.

Will they still trade assets to move up to get one or shoot for a 2nd rounder?


At 7-10, they would be in ideal position to grab one of Daniels, Shadeur, or JJ and get decent value since the non-QB top prospects (MHJ, Nabors, Alt) are likely to be gone.
If he plays like he is a middle-range starting QB in the NFL  
ThomasG : 11/26/2023 10:31 am : link
then he is clearly the best QB on the Giants. So you keep Devito and let him compete with a rookie you draft and Jones, if he is recovered.

Imv though, Jones will not be able to compete in camp and preseason as his rehab will not be done, so this is kind of TBD with him anyway.

Devito continuing to play at a relatively decent level (if it happens) would be great news for the Giants. Probably the best thing in an otherwise awful season. He could provide good competition for a rookie we draft, and be a reliable QB2 as needed.

Also  
Lambuth_Special : 11/26/2023 10:32 am : link
If DeVito looks good we should be even more excited at whoever the Giants draft at QB, as Daboll will have shown excellent QB development skills with both Jones in 22’ and DeVito in 23’. And we chalk up Jones’ 23 performance to him being out to lunch (as some have speculated).
RE: what should happen?  
averagejoe : 11/26/2023 10:32 am : link
In comment 16301379 Eric from BBI said:
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He should compete for the starting job with Daniel Jones and whomever is drafted.


Absolutely. Schoen needs to make sure he drafts his QB in 1st round. Then open completion in camp. Right now I'm thinking TD wins job easily and rookie shows promise leaving generationally wealthy DJ at #3 where he belongs.

Five years of No TD Jones is enough.
He should compete for the starting job.  
GiantTuff1 : 11/26/2023 12:34 pm : link
RE: Then he becomes our #2 next year  
Jack Stroud : 11/26/2023 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16301367 DefenseWins said:
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Yup, the Gants have their back up qb questioned answered.
If he looks good against the Eagles  
US1 Giants : 11/26/2023 1:36 pm : link
twice, I would support to be the Giants #1 QB. Expecting him to struggle in those Eagles games if not before.
He's fun to watch so far  
arniefez : 11/26/2023 3:02 pm : link
Hopefully he plays all of the rest of the games and gets some experience. He throws with some touch and he seems to be pretty accurate. Right now the game is too fast for him to be an NFL starter. But that's nothing new for the Giants starting QB's since Eli retired.
Daniel has lost his scholarship, finally  
HomerJones45 : 11/26/2023 4:22 pm : link
he's competing for the #1 job next season.
If GOOD  
Joe Beckwith : 11/26/2023 5:17 pm : link
is his NFL ceiling, then drafting for need positions may allow forgoing a QB early, and building the team JS/DB want..
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