And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid.
Lol. Drafting a QB in round 1 would show they realized they made a mistake and are trying to fix it.
All you’re doing is bitching for the sake of bitching. You’re going to whine if they run it back with Jones and take a WR (or whatever non QB) and you’ll also whine if they take a QB.
And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid.
Lol. Drafting a QB in round 1 would show they realized they made a mistake and are trying to fix it.
All you’re doing is bitching for the sake of bitching. You’re going to whine if they run it back with Jones and take a WR (or whatever non QB) and you’ll also whine if they take a QB.
You’re ridiculous.
I'm going to keep bitching about the mistake they made because it was that stupid. You had to be a moron to think paying Jones was a good idea, and the cost of that error will impact next year and the year after if they decide to move on. If they don't decide to move on, it impacts them as well.
They deserve to have their feet continually held to the fire for paying a backup level player $160M over 4 years.
Any reporter with their salt will blowtorch ownership and the front office for this all offseason.
The Giants pick too low to get Williams, Maye, or Daniels, so Schoen trades up for Bo Nix. BBI would just explode.
Schoen is going to zero in on a particular QB, one that he really believes in. I don't believe it will be Bo Nix, but I could be mistaken.
Having a high draft pick reduces the draft cost of getting that QB, i.e. not having to trade picks to move up the board.
We’ve seen time and time again that draft picks or players are not guaranteed to be good. Everyone was pissed about Chase Young and then some were pissed we passed on Darnold or Rosen.
So draft position doesn’t matter? I wonder why teams trade up? Are all teams, including the Giants, dumber than you because they think draft position matters?
Two things can be true at once, Ryan. Draft picks bust, and it is better to be able to pick who you want as opposed to who is left when it is your pick.
Obviously drafting higher is better. Point is - I’d rather see development of the team and the young guys play well vs us be a complete laughingstock. It doesn’t guarantee you anything.
He played well today . More turnovers from the D. I don’t root for losses . But others can. That’s their decision as fans. DeVito is trying to win a game for his team and you. He’s shown he belongs in the league .
As far as the draft. 5-12 is going to give you a chance to get a very good player . The extra second might get the QB you desire . But word of caution : every college QB that you mention, has to date played against minor league football . DeVito has been playing against major league and in my opinion he’s done just as well as the number 1 pick in last year’s draft . In similar circumstances .
Mike - you continue to not understand my point. Have a nice night.
And you continue to tell everyone how to think and feel. I don’t know why you can’t understand how offensive and stupid that is, but I guess you can’t learn that.
If you look at mock drafts, there's 5-6 QB's going in the first round. This idea that we're doomed and can't still get a QB is stupid. NFL teams have no clue how to draft QB's too so we don't need the 1st or 2nd overall to get a good one. Obviously it'd be most ideal to guarantee ourselves the QB of choice but not sure that was ever realistic.
It’s not getting A QB. It’s getting THE QB. And again, if Schoen sees it as I do, it’s Maye/Williams, then everybody else. We now likely need to trade the farm to get either of those 2.
Because he’s hoping they don’t find Jones’ replacement so he can still be right
Again, missing the point completely and still being a complete asshole everything.
Pot meet kettle.
Who doesn’t remember you mocking posters less than a year ago with “Jones is going to be the QB for a long time, deal with it”. Only for them to be looking for his replacement. Notice there was no denial. Your point is you don’t want a QB so you’re actively rooting against the betterment of the franchise so that you can hope to be right about Daniel Jones. Being a Daniel Jones fan first and a Giants fan second makes you a shitty fan. See how it can work both ways?
ajr - your obsession with everything I say or do has gotten to the point of absurdity and you bring nothing to these conversations.
The fact that you think I’m a Daniel Jones fan first and then a Giants fan not only makes you a complete idiot but it just makes you look so petty. Just stop. Shut the fuck up about it.
And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid.
Lol. Drafting a QB in round 1 would show they realized they made a mistake and are trying to fix it.
All you’re doing is bitching for the sake of bitching. You’re going to whine if they run it back with Jones and take a WR (or whatever non QB) and you’ll also whine if they take a QB.
You’re ridiculous.
I'm going to keep bitching about the mistake they made because it was that stupid. You had to be a moron to think paying Jones was a good idea, and the cost of that error will impact next year and the year after if they decide to move on. If they don't decide to move on, it impacts them as well.
They deserve to have their feet continually held to the fire for paying a backup level player $160M over 4 years.
Any reporter with their salt will blowtorch ownership and the front office for this all offseason.
JFC! You think the mistake was THAT stupid and you’ll “continue to bitch about it”. yet a few weeks ago you also said daboll/schoen were “part of the solution”.
If they made such a bad decision about the guy who plays the most important position on the field, how on earth could you possibly trust them to be part of the solution?
And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid.
Lol. Drafting a QB in round 1 would show they realized they made a mistake and are trying to fix it.
All you’re doing is bitching for the sake of bitching. You’re going to whine if they run it back with Jones and take a WR (or whatever non QB) and you’ll also whine if they take a QB.
You’re ridiculous.
I'm going to keep bitching about the mistake they made because it was that stupid. You had to be a moron to think paying Jones was a good idea, and the cost of that error will impact next year and the year after if they decide to move on. If they don't decide to move on, it impacts them as well.
They deserve to have their feet continually held to the fire for paying a backup level player $160M over 4 years.
Any reporter with their salt will blowtorch ownership and the front office for this all offseason.
JFC! You think the mistake was THAT stupid and you’ll “continue to bitch about it”. yet a few weeks ago you also said daboll/schoen were “part of the solution”.
If they made such a bad decision about the guy who plays the most important position on the field, how on earth could you possibly trust them to be part of the solution?
You’re the one obsessed with me. You’ve made up that I’m not a real Giants fan, and that I’ve disappeared from the board when the Giants are winning.
So you can call people shitty fans but saying you’re a Daniel Jones fan first makes me the idiot?
Do you see how stupid and hypocritical you sound? Youre everything you accuse everyone else of being. You’ve spent the better part of 5 years telling people how they should feel and acting like you’re some superior fan. You’re too dense to even realize most of the time I’m just flipping around how you act towards people and throwing it back on you. You constantly make shit up and then claim everyone is obsessed with you when they point out you’re wrong.
For the betterment of the board, get a fucking mirror and pull your head out of your ass.
Dnew. I’m talking about fans rooting for losses. Not teams actively tanking.
So you think that Jets and Browns fans are the only two teams that have a fan base that rooted for their teams to lose to improve their draft slot being that the season was shot?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A reality check is indeed needed
I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Zach Wilson went #2.
Literally nobody is suggesting what SFGF said. Picking 2nd means only that Schoen and Daboll have a great shot at getting exactly who they want without trading away a haul of draft picks. It doesn’t mean that guy will be a superstar.
It’s not about the fact that if you’re top 5 or top 3 or top 1 you get a slam dunk, grand slam franchise altering QB… the draft (especially at the QB position) always comes with risk.
It’s about the fact that since the Giants will be presumably in the draft QB market they control their own fate sitting as close to the top of the draft as possible. They get to take “their guy” and not gamble more assets to get him.
I like that option a lot more than HOPING he falls to them.
We all seem to agree that this team has lots of holes - wouldn’t you rather keep those added draft picks AND give Schoen/Daboll their pick of the QBs???
I am surprised how many people here only watch the Giants and have no idea what happens in football outside of whether the Giants won or lost.
I have seen some posters suggest that the percentage of top 5 QB selections who were not good suggest you should therefore never select a QB in the top 5. We also have posters who suggest you should just pick offensive linemen because that is a safe pick who will solve the line problems, despite our own experiences with that. There are even a few who (seriously)don’t want to draft certain positions from certain college programs because other players at that position 30 years ago were not good, as if a witch put a hex on it.
This site needs an ignore feature so you can block out the emotional football shut ins from people who want to talk football.
I am now very glad we won…..I’m not going to fret over what slot we pick in the draft any longer…..besides, we are hit or miss picking in round one, so let the chips fall where they may…..
I’m more excited watching our Italian Stallion, Tommy DeVito, grow as a QB. He knows how to use Jalin Hyatt. I’m sure he will learn how to get rid of the ball faster with experience. I want to see all our young players grow and have success like Banks and McFadden.
I am surprised how many people here only watch the Giants and have no idea what happens in football outside of whether the Giants won or lost.
I have seen some posters suggest that the percentage of top 5 QB selections who were not good suggest you should therefore never select a QB in the top 5. We also have posters who suggest you should just pick offensive linemen because that is a safe pick who will solve the line problems, despite our own experiences with that. There are even a few who (seriously)don’t want to draft certain positions from certain college programs because other players at that position 30 years ago were not good, as if a witch put a hex on it.
This site needs an ignore feature so you can block out the emotional football shut ins from people who want to talk football.
One of my All-Time favourites, and that’s favorites with the U
RE: Nobody is suggesting that the team is trying to lose games
Yet we keep getting people jump in here every week saying “The Giants will not purposely throw games.” Duh. Literally everybody knows that.
The argument is that wins don’t help. Agree or disagree with that, but stop purposefully misstating what people are saying so you can come in and play voice of reason with you silly posts.
never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.
Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.
Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.
never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.
Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.
Every position busts at the top of the draft. Do you want to take a tackle in the top 10 to replace Evan Neal who we took at #7? Does Ereck Flowers ring a bell?
What position at the top of the draft is safe from busts?
never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.
Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.
Every position busts at the top of the draft. Do you want to take a tackle in the top 10 to replace Evan Neal who we took at #7? Does Ereck Flowers ring a bell?
What position at the top of the draft is safe from busts?
No position is safe. What I am getting at is that we should not overdraft a QB just because he is a QB. Bo Nix isn’t a first round talent yet people had us taking him at #5 because Giants need a QB. That type of thinking only increases the likelihood of drafting a bust.
I don't think anyone is suggesting the Giants just take the best QB left on the board when they pick, regardless of what grade they have on them. If people have posted that I have not seen that suggestion made.
We have seen QBs like Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen all get drafted between 7 and 22. You don't need a top 3 pick to take a QB.
Lol. Drafting a QB in round 1 would show they realized they made a mistake and are trying to fix it.
All you’re doing is bitching for the sake of bitching. You’re going to whine if they run it back with Jones and take a WR (or whatever non QB) and you’ll also whine if they take a QB.
You’re ridiculous.
The Giants pick too low to get Williams, Maye, or Daniels, so Schoen trades up for Bo Nix. BBI would just explode.
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I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Pretty much my thoughts.
If by Allen, you mean Josh Allen, he was drafted seventh. And he should have been drafted by us, and instead DG drafted Barkley.
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And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid.
Lol. Drafting a QB in round 1 would show they realized they made a mistake and are trying to fix it.
All you’re doing is bitching for the sake of bitching. You’re going to whine if they run it back with Jones and take a WR (or whatever non QB) and you’ll also whine if they take a QB.
You’re ridiculous.
I'm going to keep bitching about the mistake they made because it was that stupid. You had to be a moron to think paying Jones was a good idea, and the cost of that error will impact next year and the year after if they decide to move on. If they don't decide to move on, it impacts them as well.
They deserve to have their feet continually held to the fire for paying a backup level player $160M over 4 years.
Any reporter with their salt will blowtorch ownership and the front office for this all offseason.
The Giants pick too low to get Williams, Maye, or Daniels, so Schoen trades up for Bo Nix. BBI would just explode.
Schoen is going to zero in on a particular QB, one that he really believes in. I don't believe it will be Bo Nix, but I could be mistaken.
Having a high draft pick reduces the draft cost of getting that QB, i.e. not having to trade picks to move up the board.
So draft position doesn’t matter? I wonder why teams trade up? Are all teams, including the Giants, dumber than you because they think draft position matters?
Two things can be true at once, Ryan. Draft picks bust, and it is better to be able to pick who you want as opposed to who is left when it is your pick.
I think some fans would be miserable no matter what. Why these fans choose to watch the Giants now is beyond me.
As far as the draft. 5-12 is going to give you a chance to get a very good player . The extra second might get the QB you desire . But word of caution : every college QB that you mention, has to date played against minor league football . DeVito has been playing against major league and in my opinion he’s done just as well as the number 1 pick in last year’s draft . In similar circumstances .
I don’t find that surprising at all. You have been a big supporter of this team remaining mediocre if it means never admitting they made a mistake.
And you continue to tell everyone how to think and feel. I don’t know why you can’t understand how offensive and stupid that is, but I guess you can’t learn that.
Have a good night.
It’s not getting A QB. It’s getting THE QB. And again, if Schoen sees it as I do, it’s Maye/Williams, then everybody else. We now likely need to trade the farm to get either of those 2.
I’m saying that rooting for losses is loser type shit. That’s my opinion. And that opinion is shared by a lot on this board.
If you root for losses, that makes you a shitty fan. That’s my opinion. Get over it already
Again, missing the point completely and still being a complete asshole everything.
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Because he’s hoping they don’t find Jones’ replacement so he can still be right
Again, missing the point completely and still being a complete asshole everything.
Pot meet kettle.
Who doesn’t remember you mocking posters less than a year ago with “Jones is going to be the QB for a long time, deal with it”. Only for them to be looking for his replacement. Notice there was no denial. Your point is you don’t want a QB so you’re actively rooting against the betterment of the franchise so that you can hope to be right about Daniel Jones. Being a Daniel Jones fan first and a Giants fan second makes you a shitty fan. See how it can work both ways?
The fact that you think I’m a Daniel Jones fan first and then a Giants fan not only makes you a complete idiot but it just makes you look so petty. Just stop. Shut the fuck up about it.
I’m saying that rooting for losses is loser type shit. That’s my opinion. And that opinion is shared by a lot on this board.
If you root for losses, that makes you a shitty fan. That’s my opinion. Get over it already
And telling people how to be a fan makes you a shitty fan. I guess this board has a lot of really shitty fans, including you. Just my opinion.
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And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid.
Lol. Drafting a QB in round 1 would show they realized they made a mistake and are trying to fix it.
All you’re doing is bitching for the sake of bitching. You’re going to whine if they run it back with Jones and take a WR (or whatever non QB) and you’ll also whine if they take a QB.
You’re ridiculous.
I'm going to keep bitching about the mistake they made because it was that stupid. You had to be a moron to think paying Jones was a good idea, and the cost of that error will impact next year and the year after if they decide to move on. If they don't decide to move on, it impacts them as well.
They deserve to have their feet continually held to the fire for paying a backup level player $160M over 4 years.
Any reporter with their salt will blowtorch ownership and the front office for this all offseason.
JFC! You think the mistake was THAT stupid and you’ll “continue to bitch about it”. yet a few weeks ago you also said daboll/schoen were “part of the solution”.
If they made such a bad decision about the guy who plays the most important position on the field, how on earth could you possibly trust them to be part of the solution?
Wait …
When did this happen - I don’t remember either of these franchises purposely losing games … did I miss something???
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And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid.
Lol. Drafting a QB in round 1 would show they realized they made a mistake and are trying to fix it.
All you’re doing is bitching for the sake of bitching. You’re going to whine if they run it back with Jones and take a WR (or whatever non QB) and you’ll also whine if they take a QB.
You’re ridiculous.
I'm going to keep bitching about the mistake they made because it was that stupid. You had to be a moron to think paying Jones was a good idea, and the cost of that error will impact next year and the year after if they decide to move on. If they don't decide to move on, it impacts them as well.
They deserve to have their feet continually held to the fire for paying a backup level player $160M over 4 years.
Any reporter with their salt will blowtorch ownership and the front office for this all offseason.
JFC! You think the mistake was THAT stupid and you’ll “continue to bitch about it”. yet a few weeks ago you also said daboll/schoen were “part of the solution”.
If they made such a bad decision about the guy who plays the most important position on the field, how on earth could you possibly trust them to be part of the solution?
I'll admit my trust is eroding.
So you can call people shitty fans but saying you’re a Daniel Jones fan first makes me the idiot?
Do you see how stupid and hypocritical you sound? Youre everything you accuse everyone else of being. You’ve spent the better part of 5 years telling people how they should feel and acting like you’re some superior fan. You’re too dense to even realize most of the time I’m just flipping around how you act towards people and throwing it back on you. You constantly make shit up and then claim everyone is obsessed with you when they point out you’re wrong.
For the betterment of the board, get a fucking mirror and pull your head out of your ass.
So you think that Jets and Browns fans are the only two teams that have a fan base that rooted for their teams to lose to improve their draft slot being that the season was shot?
I'll admit my trust is eroding.
The decision to sign Jones was made in March, so why would your trust only erode in the last few weeks?
Zach Wilson went #2.
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I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Zach Wilson went #2.
Literally nobody is suggesting what SFGF said. Picking 2nd means only that Schoen and Daboll have a great shot at getting exactly who they want without trading away a haul of draft picks. It doesn’t mean that guy will be a superstar.
It’s about the fact that since the Giants will be presumably in the draft QB market they control their own fate sitting as close to the top of the draft as possible. They get to take “their guy” and not gamble more assets to get him.
I like that option a lot more than HOPING he falls to them.
We all seem to agree that this team has lots of holes - wouldn’t you rather keep those added draft picks AND give Schoen/Daboll their pick of the QBs???
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If you trust Schoen to pick the right quarterback, isn't the best outcome to have the highest odds of getting his guy?
And isn't it better he only have to use one pick to be in that position, so that he can use his other picks to get other good players?
+1.
I have seen some posters suggest that the percentage of top 5 QB selections who were not good suggest you should therefore never select a QB in the top 5. We also have posters who suggest you should just pick offensive linemen because that is a safe pick who will solve the line problems, despite our own experiences with that. There are even a few who (seriously)don’t want to draft certain positions from certain college programs because other players at that position 30 years ago were not good, as if a witch put a hex on it.
This site needs an ignore feature so you can block out the emotional football shut ins from people who want to talk football.
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to see some big hits on special teams today. Kudos to Carter Coughlin and Cam Brown.
exactly. Those were my favorite plays of the game.
Yeah. Coughlin's was outstanding. Brown's, I thought was a little too close to a clothes-line tackle penalty. But no flag, so all good.
Did they rule no fumble on the Brown play? It wasn't explained very clearly, or maybe I missed it.
Wasting energy over where the Giants draft in November must be exhausting. It'll be on the regime to figure it out. If they won't, they'll be fired.
The good news? Daboll has not lost the locker room.
+1
I’m more excited watching our Italian Stallion, Tommy DeVito, grow as a QB. He knows how to use Jalin Hyatt. I’m sure he will learn how to get rid of the ball faster with experience. I want to see all our young players grow and have success like Banks and McFadden.
GIANTS WIN, GIANTS WIN, GIANTS WIN!
Amen!
I have seen some posters suggest that the percentage of top 5 QB selections who were not good suggest you should therefore never select a QB in the top 5. We also have posters who suggest you should just pick offensive linemen because that is a safe pick who will solve the line problems, despite our own experiences with that. There are even a few who (seriously)don’t want to draft certain positions from certain college programs because other players at that position 30 years ago were not good, as if a witch put a hex on it.
This site needs an ignore feature so you can block out the emotional football shut ins from people who want to talk football.
One of my All-Time favourites, and that’s favorites with the U
The argument is that wins don’t help. Agree or disagree with that, but stop purposefully misstating what people are saying so you can come in and play voice of reason with you silly posts.
THANK YOU!!!!
Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.
Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
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never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.
Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.
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never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.
Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.
Every position busts at the top of the draft. Do you want to take a tackle in the top 10 to replace Evan Neal who we took at #7? Does Ereck Flowers ring a bell?
What position at the top of the draft is safe from busts?
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never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.
Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.
Every position busts at the top of the draft. Do you want to take a tackle in the top 10 to replace Evan Neal who we took at #7? Does Ereck Flowers ring a bell?
What position at the top of the draft is safe from busts?
No position is safe. What I am getting at is that we should not overdraft a QB just because he is a QB. Bo Nix isn’t a first round talent yet people had us taking him at #5 because Giants need a QB. That type of thinking only increases the likelihood of drafting a bust.
We have seen QBs like Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen all get drafted between 7 and 22. You don't need a top 3 pick to take a QB.