a few years from now, nobody has any idea now where the best players will have been chosen. none.
we might even be better off taking an OT or an edge rusher. there is no way to know.
go back over the first round drafts for the last 10 years and color each player green (great), orange (good) and red (bust). line 'em up and see what it looks like. i think it will surprise you.
We might not win another game this season. The Rams game at home in Week 17 is a possibility if the Rams are out of it for sure, but the game in 2 weeks at home on MNF against GB is gonna be a toughie. They've got New Orleans on the road after that followed by the Eagles in Philly---a game that will likely wind up like the Dallas game in Dallas.
We sat people, I mean if the Pats weren't actively trying to lose the game I don't know what to say. They literally threw 3 passes straight to us and shanked a 35 yd FG at the gun.
Man, Giants can’t win…lose and people are pissed. Win and people are pissed.
the Giants didn't "win" this game. The pats lost it and we just happened to be on the other end. Can't think of anyone who played well in this game. Can't even evaluate anyone...wasted day.
How many INTs did the get? They caused 2 or 3 fumbles(not recovered.)
Patriots may be the only team with worse QBs than the Giants - oh, and worse WRs.
I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
The same fans would be bitching about Daboll's record next year. The whole myth of tanking makes sport fans so fucking dumb.
The Eagles never needed to tank for a top 3 pick. Plenty of franchises are competitive without needing to hope to lose for a top pick.
Players will always play to win. It's 11/26, stressing about this is a waste of energy. Schoen will need to figure out QB, if he won't he'll be fired. That's his job.
While the big W probably means the Giants draft position forecloses the availability of a quality quarterback.....
Gold Jacket DeVito has sparked a renaissance of a dynamic offensive juggernaut.
is that I don't think Daboll has lost the locker room.
I felt that way about Joe Judge’s last win of his first season. None of that shit mattered in game 1 of the following season when they embarrassed themselves.
RE: Can we all stop with the fire everybody bullshit?
I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Mahomes and Allen were deemed physical freaks coming into draft. Mahomes and Jackson went to ready to win teams that were already sustainably winning.
Giants are a mild dumpster fire of an organization.
And yet they were still drafted outside of the top 3. The quality of the teams they went to is irrelevant. We now know what they are and if the draft were revised they would go much higher. The point remains - we don't know today where the top QBs will actually be picked in this Spring's draft. Maye, Daniels, Williams could all be busts. Nix could be great. We don't know.
Giants sixth. Fell behind Commanders. Would actually be behind Bucs if they had the same number of games (good news is Bucs play Carolina next week, so hopefully they get 5th win). Stay ahead of Tenn. (tied) based on SOS. Be even with Chargers on SOS if they lose (likely). Need Rams to beat Arizona, and Bears to beat Vikings (keeps Giants hopes to get ahead of them alive with a second Bears win).
This logic is terrible. Yea fuck it, no more o line because a few picks didn’t work out. Gotta make sure we load up on useless corners and wide receivers.
Giants sixth. Fell behind Commanders. Would actually be behind Bucs if they had the same number of games (good news is Bucs play Carolina next week, so hopefully they get 5th win). Stay ahead of Tenn. (tied) based on SOS. Be even with Chargers on SOS if they lose (likely). Need Rams to beat Arizona, and Bears to beat Vikings (keeps Giants hopes to get ahead of them alive with a second Bears win).
Forgot the Jets are 4-7 too, the Giants would be close to even with them on SOS if they lose next week.
All you guys celebrating these two wins, enjoy watch Williams, Maye or Daniels in DC for the next 15 years.
Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
So you’ll ignore Eli, Peyton, Elway, Marino, etc. all going #1 as evidence that there’s value in taking a franchise QB #1? Heck use Brady as the sample and we should just wait to find our guy in the late rounds.
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Giants currently slotted to pick No. 7 now with the win
Definitely bottom 3 team
If we pick outside of top 3 we will likely remain close to the bottom
we might even be better off taking an OT or an edge rusher. there is no way to know.
go back over the first round drafts for the last 10 years and color each player green (great), orange (good) and red (bust). line 'em up and see what it looks like. i think it will surprise you.
Imagine what they’re doing with DeVito applied to a real prospect like Shadeur, McCarthy, or Daniels
The team has continued to suck since drafting Thomas. Not his fault, but every crap team has a few good players.
Literally no one outside of one or two people in Chicago thought Mitch should’ve gone that high.
And Mahomes got to step onto a loaded roster.
Pretty much my thoughts.
Mahomes and Allen were deemed physical freaks coming into draft. Mahomes and Jackson went to ready to win teams that were already sustainably winning.
Giants are a mild dumpster fire of an organization.
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Man, Giants can’t win…lose and people are pissed. Win and people are pissed.
the Giants didn't "win" this game. The pats lost it and we just happened to be on the other end. Can't think of anyone who played well in this game. Can't even evaluate anyone...wasted day.
How many INTs did the get? They caused 2 or 3 fumbles(not recovered.)
Patriots may be the only team with worse QBs than the Giants - oh, and worse WRs.
The same fans would be bitching about Daboll's record next year. The whole myth of tanking makes sport fans so fucking dumb.
The Eagles never needed to tank for a top 3 pick. Plenty of franchises are competitive without needing to hope to lose for a top pick.
Players will always play to win. It's 11/26, stressing about this is a waste of energy. Schoen will need to figure out QB, if he won't he'll be fired. That's his job.
Gold Jacket DeVito has sparked a renaissance of a dynamic offensive juggernaut.
Best thing it happened was it ended in regulations.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
In every round for the next decade.
Allen went 7th overall. Which is where we are slated, at the moment.
Josh Allen went 7th.
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I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Mahomes and Allen were deemed physical freaks coming into draft. Mahomes and Jackson went to ready to win teams that were already sustainably winning.
Giants are a mild dumpster fire of an organization.
Agree with everything you said except for “mild”.
two back to back going into the bye
I guess
But we are clearly not a good football team
Fair point.
I felt that way about Joe Judge’s last win of his first season. None of that shit mattered in game 1 of the following season when they embarrassed themselves.
Makes the draft more challenging for sure. Very well may cost us picks to move up.
Two points here Beef;
1) It wasn't meaningless, as you yourself stated with your closing comment.
2) How could you possibly have enjoyed that mess?
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I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Mahomes and Allen were deemed physical freaks coming into draft. Mahomes and Jackson went to ready to win teams that were already sustainably winning.
Giants are a mild dumpster fire of an organization.
And yet they were still drafted outside of the top 3. The quality of the teams they went to is irrelevant. We now know what they are and if the draft were revised they would go much higher. The point remains - we don't know today where the top QBs will actually be picked in this Spring's draft. Maye, Daniels, Williams could all be busts. Nix could be great. We don't know.
Giants sixth. Fell behind Commanders. Would actually be behind Bucs if they had the same number of games (good news is Bucs play Carolina next week, so hopefully they get 5th win). Stay ahead of Tenn. (tied) based on SOS. Be even with Chargers on SOS if they lose (likely). Need Rams to beat Arizona, and Bears to beat Vikings (keeps Giants hopes to get ahead of them alive with a second Bears win).
In every round for the next decade.
You mean like Evan Neal and Josh Ezeudu?
Also, we need to fix our coaching issues.
Giants need a lot of work.
At the very least - Daboll is keeping this team afloat and they'll have something to play for after the bye.
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I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Allen went 7th overall. Which is where we are slated, at the moment.
Yeah, so did Evan Neal
at Saints
at Eagles
vs Rams
vs Eagles
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
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is that I don't think Daboll has lost the locker room.
Fair point.
Very important.
Maybe we should hang a “Chase Young Bowl” banner next to the Super Bowl ones, given how much that game is celebrated around here.
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In every round for the next decade.
You mean like Evan Neal and Josh Ezeudu?
This logic is terrible. Yea fuck it, no more o line because a few picks didn’t work out. Gotta make sure we load up on useless corners and wide receivers.
In every round for the next decade.
The sacks today were on DeVito. He doesn’t get the ball on out fast enough and utilize the crossing routes that are open.
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We won a meaningless game. Enjoy it.
Makes the draft more challenging for sure. Very well may cost us picks to move up.
Two points here Beef;
1) It wasn't meaningless, as you yourself stated with your closing comment.
2) How could you possibly have enjoyed that mess?
Quite right Vincent. Quite right.
Some here are just dying for any wins. I'm rooting for the bigger picture I suppose.
Doesn't make me right.
The point is Jayden Daniels isn’t dropping to 7.
Philatelists rejoice!
Giants sixth. Fell behind Commanders. Would actually be behind Bucs if they had the same number of games (good news is Bucs play Carolina next week, so hopefully they get 5th win). Stay ahead of Tenn. (tied) based on SOS. Be even with Chargers on SOS if they lose (likely). Need Rams to beat Arizona, and Bears to beat Vikings (keeps Giants hopes to get ahead of them alive with a second Bears win).
Forgot the Jets are 4-7 too, the Giants would be close to even with them on SOS if they lose next week.
All you guys celebrating these two wins, enjoy watch Williams, Maye or Daniels in DC for the next 15 years.
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Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
So you’ll ignore Eli, Peyton, Elway, Marino, etc. all going #1 as evidence that there’s value in taking a franchise QB #1? Heck use Brady as the sample and we should just wait to find our guy in the late rounds.