Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
So you’ll ignore Eli, Peyton, Elway, Marino, etc. all going #1 as evidence that there’s value in taking a franchise QB #1? Heck use Brady as the sample and we should just wait to find our guy in the late rounds.
Marino was drafted in the 20s. The Jets drafted Ken O’Brien instead of him.
RE: So, the Patriot postgame is completely lamenting
Who has changed their POV because of something someone else said in this thread. There’s no debate. People will root for the outcome they want and that’s it. There’s no point in trying to convince anyone that their position is wrong. It’s not.
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Brian Daboll said the biggest argument he’s had with #giants defensive coordinator Wink Martindale is over the last slice of pizza. Daboll credited his scheming today.
“I’ve got a lot of respect for Wink. Glad he’s on the staff.”
I laid down on the couch on a cold nasty November day and got a win. And the defense led the way. The qb showed once again he belongs. I will take today and run. Daboll and the giants are showing some stuff and I for one will take that silver lining.
Get to 5-8. Keep this going ,why the hell cant we orchestrate a little late season magic and salvage things. It happens all the time. Why not nyg. Keep it going.
I said it 10 times all week, even if you do believe in dabol before these last two wins, you really needed to see this team pick itself off the mat this season. And they have. This bodes well for the future.
Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
So you’ll ignore Eli, Peyton, Elway, Marino, etc. all going #1 as evidence that there’s value in taking a franchise QB #1? Heck use Brady as the sample and we should just wait to find our guy in the late rounds.
I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Allen went 7th overall. Which is where we are slated, at the moment.
Sure, but the top 6 teams in that draft were not looking for QBs. The Bears will or trade the pick to someone who is. The Cardinals will. The Patriots will. The Commanders will. The Jets will. So right now four of the five teams in front of the Giants will want a QB. And the fifth is the Bears, who might want one. The Bucs will, but they have the Jets and Carolina, so they would likely have to jump the Giants.
Then you have the Saints, Raiders, Falcons and maybe Broncos who will all likely be interested in trading up for a QB. There are a lot more teams desperate for QBs this year than in 2018.
That’s the craziest part of that nonsense. It doesn’t mean shit the following year. Heck, what the Giants did last season didn’t mean shit this year.
I can understand players and coaches wanting to win, but fans should be able to see the bigger picture.
We can play this debate all day long. You’re right these wins don’t apply to next season, but if you’re gonna sit here and tell me that going 3-14 or 2-15 isn’t concerning or isn’t a bad sign that the staff in place is overmatched, I don’t know what to tell you.
If you wanna believe in dabol, you need to see wins here. Don’t tell me that you’d be a firm believer in the staff if they went 2-15 this season and lost to the dregs of the nfl along the way. That’s just insane.
Also, the season isn’t over yet. You telling me if this team gets the six and eight, and you have a faint glimmer of playoff hope, you’re gonna be mad?
Win next week.
I want to be able to get our QB as much as anyone..
but the idea that the team (owners, coaches and players) are going to intentionally lose the rest of the games so we can get a high pick is absolutely ridiculous.
The players and coaches are going to do everything they can to keep their jobs.
Fans who think that Daboll and Schoen are talking behind a closed door about losing so they can get a QB are just fucking stupid.
If we end up picking 7th, then we will just have to give up more to move up and get our guy. That's it..
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
Doesn't matter. Today's win was the key to the draft possibilities. Which of the five teams ahead of the Giants will get to 5 wins? Maybe the Bears. And the Jets could jump ahead based on strength of schedule.
I laid down on the couch on a cold nasty November day and got a win. And the defense led the way. The qb showed once again he belongs. I will take today and run. Daboll and the giants are showing some stuff and I for one will take that silver lining.
Get to 5-8. Keep this going ,why the hell cant we orchestrate a little late season magic and salvage things. It happens all the time. Why not nyg. Keep it going.
I said it 10 times all week, even if you do believe in dabol before these last two wins, you really needed to see this team pick itself off the mat this season. And they have. This bodes well for the future.
Well said. The Giants need a coach who can have some stability. Going 2-15 would have gotten him fired.
Great win? Outgained by a 2-win team that missed a 35 yard field goal at the end to send it to overtime? Yeah, it's right up there with upsetting the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl.
I laid down on the couch on a cold nasty November day and got a win. And the defense led the way. The qb showed once again he belongs. I will take today and run. Daboll and the giants are showing some stuff and I for one will take that silver lining.
Get to 5-8. Keep this going ,why the hell cant we orchestrate a little late season magic and salvage things. It happens all the time. Why not nyg. Keep it going.
I said it 10 times all week, even if you do believe in dabol before these last two wins, you really needed to see this team pick itself off the mat this season. And they have. This bodes well for the future.
Well said. The Giants need a coach who can have some stability. Going 2-15 would have gotten him fired.
Same people rooting for a loss would be lambasting Daboll for losing the game. They were also probably the same people saying it would be an ugly loss because of BB against DeVito.
We can play this debate all day long. You’re right these wins don’t apply to next season, but if you’re gonna sit here and tell me that going 3-14 or 2-15 isn’t concerning or isn’t a bad sign that the staff in place is overmatched, I don’t know what to tell you.
If you wanna believe in dabol, you need to see wins here. Don’t tell me that you’d be a firm believer in the staff if they went 2-15 this season and lost to the dregs of the nfl along the way. That’s just insane.
Also, the season isn’t over yet. You telling me if this team gets the six and eight, and you have a faint glimmer of playoff hope, you’re gonna be mad?
Win next week.
Playoffs??!?!!!!!!!!! [Jim Mora GIF/] You can’t be serious. The Giants were outgained today by those two horrendous quarterbacks.
So people believe in the staff because the trio of Sam Howell, Mac Jones, and Bailey Zappe spent 8 quarters handing the Giants the football? These games aren’t indicative of anything. The Giants just made less mistakes and won against atrocious opponents. That’s it.
Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
So you’ll ignore Eli, Peyton, Elway, Marino, etc. all going #1 as evidence that there’s value in taking a franchise QB #1? Heck use Brady as the sample and we should just wait to find our guy in the late rounds.
Dan Marino was drafted #27.
This gets really old. Lets go through the last 30 years of NFL drafts and see how many QBs picked in the top 5 have become franchise QBs compared to guys picked in the last 15 picks of the first round or later. Heck, Bart Star was drafted in the 17th round, so let's just keep signing undrafted free agents.
Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
Great post
Why is wanting a QB wailing, while wanting Oline help isn’t? Both positions are well below NFL average. Both need to be fixed immediately before this team can win consistently.
You aren’t a hero for wanting the team to draft a different position.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
the team actually showed some type of sustainable improvement that could carry on to next year. Instead, they’ve won two awful games versus two other awful teams. The Giants we’ve seen the past two weeks will still likely get obliterated versus any good team.
We’ve lost very valuable draft position and gained nothing of value.
at Saints
at Eagles
vs Rams
vs Eagles
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
idk outside of the eagles, anything's with possible the other 3 middling teams
The #1 pick means jack squat otherwise.
at Saints
at Eagles
vs Rams
vs Eagles
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
If Phillie doesn’t need a win in the last week, yeah, the NYG will get another great “win”. Guaranteed.
at Saints
at Eagles
vs Rams
vs Eagles
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
Damage has already been done. If daboll and Schoen want Maye or Williams, it’s virtually assured they’ll need to surrender future 1’s to get them.
That’s the craziest part of that nonsense. It doesn’t mean shit the following year. Heck, what the Giants did last season didn’t mean shit this year.
I can understand players and coaches wanting to win, but fans should be able to see the bigger picture.
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Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
So you’ll ignore Eli, Peyton, Elway, Marino, etc. all going #1 as evidence that there’s value in taking a franchise QB #1? Heck use Brady as the sample and we should just wait to find our guy in the late rounds.
Marino was drafted in the 20s. The Jets drafted Ken O’Brien instead of him.
If they don't find a QB for next season, then they had better get used to it.
The #1 pick means jack squat otherwise.
Can we stop using the word tank. Tank means intentionally trying to lose. That is not what anyone here is looking for.
Wasting energy over where the Giants draft in November must be exhausting. It'll be on the regime to figure it out. If they won't, they'll be fired.
The good news? Daboll has not lost the locker room.
@NYPost_Schwartz
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Brian Daboll says the only disagreement he has had with Wink Martindale is who gets the last piece of pizza.
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In every round for the next decade.
Es but how many were him just playing it safe. We watched 3 awful Patriots interceptions by QBs doing dumb throws.
The sacks today were on DeVito. He doesn’t get the ball on out fast enough and utilize the crossing routes that are open.
@charlottecrrll
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Brian Daboll said the biggest argument he’s had with #giants defensive coordinator Wink Martindale is over the last slice of pizza. Daboll credited his scheming today.
“I’ve got a lot of respect for Wink. Glad he’s on the staff.”
Get to 5-8. Keep this going ,why the hell cant we orchestrate a little late season magic and salvage things. It happens all the time. Why not nyg. Keep it going.
I said it 10 times all week, even if you do believe in dabol before these last two wins, you really needed to see this team pick itself off the mat this season. And they have. This bodes well for the future.
if you do not... then this was not good.
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In every round for the next decade.
You mean like Evan Neal and Josh Ezeudu?
Right.
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In comment 16302589 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
So you’ll ignore Eli, Peyton, Elway, Marino, etc. all going #1 as evidence that there’s value in taking a franchise QB #1? Heck use Brady as the sample and we should just wait to find our guy in the late rounds.
Dan Marino was drafted #27.
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I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Allen went 7th overall. Which is where we are slated, at the moment.
Sure, but the top 6 teams in that draft were not looking for QBs. The Bears will or trade the pick to someone who is. The Cardinals will. The Patriots will. The Commanders will. The Jets will. So right now four of the five teams in front of the Giants will want a QB. And the fifth is the Bears, who might want one. The Bucs will, but they have the Jets and Carolina, so they would likely have to jump the Giants.
Then you have the Saints, Raiders, Falcons and maybe Broncos who will all likely be interested in trading up for a QB. There are a lot more teams desperate for QBs this year than in 2018.
if you do not... then this was not good.
I’d rather trust them with Caleb than trust them with Bo Nix.
at Saints
at Eagles
vs Rams
vs Eagles
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
Exactly ....
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Carrying over to next year
That’s the craziest part of that nonsense. It doesn’t mean shit the following year. Heck, what the Giants did last season didn’t mean shit this year.
I can understand players and coaches wanting to win, but fans should be able to see the bigger picture.
We can play this debate all day long. You’re right these wins don’t apply to next season, but if you’re gonna sit here and tell me that going 3-14 or 2-15 isn’t concerning or isn’t a bad sign that the staff in place is overmatched, I don’t know what to tell you.
If you wanna believe in dabol, you need to see wins here. Don’t tell me that you’d be a firm believer in the staff if they went 2-15 this season and lost to the dregs of the nfl along the way. That’s just insane.
Also, the season isn’t over yet. You telling me if this team gets the six and eight, and you have a faint glimmer of playoff hope, you’re gonna be mad?
Win next week.
The players and coaches are going to do everything they can to keep their jobs.
Fans who think that Daboll and Schoen are talking behind a closed door about losing so they can get a QB are just fucking stupid.
If we end up picking 7th, then we will just have to give up more to move up and get our guy. That's it..
at Saints
at Eagles
vs Rams
vs Eagles
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
Doesn't matter. Today's win was the key to the draft possibilities. Which of the five teams ahead of the Giants will get to 5 wins? Maybe the Bears. And the Jets could jump ahead based on strength of schedule.
Get to 5-8. Keep this going ,why the hell cant we orchestrate a little late season magic and salvage things. It happens all the time. Why not nyg. Keep it going.
I said it 10 times all week, even if you do believe in dabol before these last two wins, you really needed to see this team pick itself off the mat this season. And they have. This bodes well for the future.
Well said. The Giants need a coach who can have some stability. Going 2-15 would have gotten him fired.
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vs Packers
at Saints
at Eagles
vs Rams
vs Eagles
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
Exactly ....
Yep…. Giants will be top five pick. The only chance they have in winning is the Rams game and that is stretching it.
It rarely happens. Why? Because going 3-14 usually means you (HC) fucking blow.
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At 7 or Penix than tank
The point is Jayden Daniels isn’t dropping to 7.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
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Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
Great post
Daniels and McCarthy are the wild cards.
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at Saints
at Eagles
vs Rams
vs Eagles
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
Exactly ....
Rams currently have 4 wins. They easily could be out of it Week 17 and flying across the country for a game they don't care about.
As for the Eagles, unless they lose two of their next three games, they're most likely not going to be playing starters Week 18.
They nearly beat Buffalo who is better.
Giants are home and playing halfway decent. They can win next week. Sorry guys. Hate to give you bad news..
if you do not... then this was not good.
Great win? Outgained by a 2-win team that missed a 35 yard field goal at the end to send it to overtime? Yeah, it's right up there with upsetting the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Dude is coming off a season where he was named NFL coach of the year and is down to his 3rd string QB.
He isn’t / wasn’t going anywhere.
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Brian Daboll says the only disagreement he has had with Wink Martindale is who gets the last piece of pizza.
That is funny, lmao.
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I laid down on the couch on a cold nasty November day and got a win. And the defense led the way. The qb showed once again he belongs. I will take today and run. Daboll and the giants are showing some stuff and I for one will take that silver lining.
Get to 5-8. Keep this going ,why the hell cant we orchestrate a little late season magic and salvage things. It happens all the time. Why not nyg. Keep it going.
I said it 10 times all week, even if you do believe in dabol before these last two wins, you really needed to see this team pick itself off the mat this season. And they have. This bodes well for the future.
Well said. The Giants need a coach who can have some stability. Going 2-15 would have gotten him fired.
Same people rooting for a loss would be lambasting Daboll for losing the game. They were also probably the same people saying it would be an ugly loss because of BB against DeVito.
We can play this debate all day long. You’re right these wins don’t apply to next season, but if you’re gonna sit here and tell me that going 3-14 or 2-15 isn’t concerning or isn’t a bad sign that the staff in place is overmatched, I don’t know what to tell you.
If you wanna believe in dabol, you need to see wins here. Don’t tell me that you’d be a firm believer in the staff if they went 2-15 this season and lost to the dregs of the nfl along the way. That’s just insane.
Also, the season isn’t over yet. You telling me if this team gets the six and eight, and you have a faint glimmer of playoff hope, you’re gonna be mad?
Win next week.
Playoffs??!?!!!!!!!!! [Jim Mora GIF/] You can’t be serious. The Giants were outgained today by those two horrendous quarterbacks.
So people believe in the staff because the trio of Sam Howell, Mac Jones, and Bailey Zappe spent 8 quarters handing the Giants the football? These games aren’t indicative of anything. The Giants just made less mistakes and won against atrocious opponents. That’s it.
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In comment 16302589 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
So you’ll ignore Eli, Peyton, Elway, Marino, etc. all going #1 as evidence that there’s value in taking a franchise QB #1? Heck use Brady as the sample and we should just wait to find our guy in the late rounds.
Dan Marino was drafted #27.
This gets really old. Lets go through the last 30 years of NFL drafts and see how many QBs picked in the top 5 have become franchise QBs compared to guys picked in the last 15 picks of the first round or later. Heck, Bart Star was drafted in the 17th round, so let's just keep signing undrafted free agents.
Dude is coming off a season where he was named NFL coach of the year and is down to his 3rd string QB.
He isn’t / wasn’t going anywhere.
Going 2-15 would show Daboll is incompetent and lost the locker room. I'd want him fired if he went 2-15.
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In comment 16302589 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Mahomes was drafted 10th overall after Mitch. Remember that.
Drew Brees (2nd round 32)
Aaron Rodgers (1st round 24)
Russell Wilson (3rd round 75)
Nick Foles (3rd round 88)
Caleb Williams will bust.
Maye might be good.
NYG have lots of needs. This QB wailing is pathetic.
Great post
Why is wanting a QB wailing, while wanting Oline help isn’t? Both positions are well below NFL average. Both need to be fixed immediately before this team can win consistently.
You aren’t a hero for wanting the team to draft a different position.
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At 7 or Penix than tank
The point is Jayden Daniels isn’t dropping to 7.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
We’ve lost very valuable draft position and gained nothing of value.