The wins last season are likely to be more costly than any win this season down the stretch.
This a great point. The wins at the end of last year ended up blinding the front office to what this team was, and lead to some very bad decisions. Wins are good as long as you understand every win is not the same, and you are not lead to a false sense of security like last year.
I don’t think anyone is overvaluing these wins like the team did last year. At least I hope not.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
We gave up a huge ransom for Eli and nobody was complaining about it after the 2007 Superbowl.
That’s the craziest part of that nonsense. It doesn’t mean shit the following year. Heck, what the Giants did last season didn’t mean shit this year.
I can understand players and coaches wanting to win, but fans should be able to see the bigger picture.
We can play this debate all day long. You’re right these wins don’t apply to next season, but if you’re gonna sit here and tell me that going 3-14 or 2-15 isn’t concerning or isn’t a bad sign that the staff in place is overmatched, I don’t know what to tell you.
If you wanna believe in dabol, you need to see wins here. Don’t tell me that you’d be a firm believer in the staff if they went 2-15 this season and lost to the dregs of the nfl along the way. That’s just insane.
Also, the season isn’t over yet. You telling me if this team gets the six and eight, and you have a faint glimmer of playoff hope, you’re gonna be mad?
Win next week.
Yes. The dopamine hit 6-8 will give you isn’t worth it
Do you think none of them will get picked in the top 7, or you think none of them is worthy of being picked that high?
The first statement will almost certainly be proven wrong. Not sure what the second one would be based on other than not having watched any of them play.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
I'm not convinced right now the Cardinals or Bears will pick a QB. Patriots? Perhaps. They have four top 100 picks. They have ammo to move up, if necessary. Maye, Williams and Daniels aren't going 1 thru 3.
This team needed 9 turnovers and horrendous QB play to win their last two games against dregs of the league.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
And the Giants could have just as easily beat the Bills and Jets. Could have lost to the Cardinals. They are where they should be. They'll have a high pick. I could see them finishing 4-13. It'll be fine.
This team needed 9 turnovers and horrendous QB play to win their last two games against dregs of the league.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
My goodness. It’s one thing if they were playing well, but they were outgained and had half as many first downs as a team using Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe as it’s quarterbacks.
I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Allen went 7th overall. Which is where we are slated, at the moment.
Sure, but the top 6 teams in that draft were not looking for QBs.
Two of those six teams did draft a QB (Mayfield and Darnold) What do you mean that they were not looking for a QB?
Two of the six did. This year ALL five teams currently ahead of the Giants (4 for sure) will be looking for QBs, not two. Plus a few more right behind the Giants will too, which will drive up the package needed to trade up. If only two teams ahead of the Giants wanted a QB it wouln't matter. That's not the case this year. That is my point.
This team needed 9 turnovers and horrendous QB play to win their last two games against dregs of the league.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
And the Giants could have just as easily beat the Bills and Jets. Could have lost to the Cardinals. They are where they should be. They'll have a high pick. I could see them finishing 4-13. It'll be fine.
This team needed 9 turnovers and horrendous QB play to win their last two games against dregs of the league.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
My goodness. It’s one thing if they were playing well, but they were outgained and had half as many first downs as a team using Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe as it’s quarterbacks.
What you just said is completely different than what I asked about. Did you think Allen was the first QB selected in 2018?
The Giants gave up a ransom to get Eli and it was well worth it. If Schoen and Daboll see a guy they want then you package what you need and you don’t look back. QB is the most important position on the field. The last few years have shown us the consequences what happens when you just wait and take who is still around.
I laid down on the couch on a cold nasty November day and got a win. And the defense led the way. The qb showed once again he belongs. I will take today and run. Daboll and the giants are showing some stuff and I for one will take that silver lining.
Get to 5-8. Keep this going ,why the hell cant we orchestrate a little late season magic and salvage things. It happens all the time. Why not nyg. Keep it going.
I said it 10 times all week, even if you do believe in dabol before these last two wins, you really needed to see this team pick itself off the mat this season. And they have. This bodes well for the future.
So how do you correlate last year’s playoff season to this year’s debacle thus far as it relates to the future of this team? I’m struggling with how these last two wins when the season has long been over are good signs for the future; especially given that the playoff team from last year has better players and this team has been really bad.
And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid. There's a good chance these wins are just costing them the chance to draft a WR or OL.
It's going to be interesting what the media message is with Jones's post-surgery recovery. If we start hearing how strong he's looking in January/February it could be a look into the front office mindset to run it back with Daniel.
And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid. There's a good chance these wins are just costing them the chance to draft a WR or OL.
It's going to be interesting what the media message is with Jones's post-surgery recovery. If we start hearing how strong he's looking in January/February it could be a look into the front office mindset to run it back with Daniel.
This is silly. There will be stories about how hard he is working and well he is recovering because he is the QB of this team and it is a story. What would you expect them to report…Jones took another day off from rehab to binge Real Housewives?
We will absolutely hear Jones is recovering well and working hard. That will tell us nothing about their plans for the draft. Why would you expect them to broadcast their plans for the draft several months in advance?
And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid. There's a good chance these wins are just costing them the chance to draft a WR or OL.
It's going to be interesting what the media message is with Jones's post-surgery recovery. If we start hearing how strong he's looking in January/February it could be a look into the front office mindset to run it back with Daniel.
Schoen and Daboll will be cleaning out their offices in January 2025 if they stupidly stick with Jones. I may be wrong, but I would like to think they are smarter than that.
Daboll. If the Giants start off poorly next year is a 10-7 win against the patriots going to keep his seat from getting hot?
I for one, would love to stop having to think about if losing is best for the franchise. The best way to do that is to get a franchise QB. The best chance of that is picking as high as possible so you can get your top guy. Sure they can trade up, but someone has to want to trade up and that’s using resources that could go toward other positions.
Sitting through this disaster of a season not coming away with a franchise QB would be an abject disaster.
Always want to chat about worst case scenarios like firing coaches. Those guys are so stupid and classless that two of them hung up on Carl Banks a few weeks ago, I'll never forgive them for that.
Daboll is not getting sacked, if there is some adjustments to be made within the coaching staff they will address that after the final game of the season.
Joe Schoen and Barndon Brown are also not getting sacked, although Brandon may be considered for a GM position elsewhere in the league (I want him to stay with Big Blue, but if he gets a chance to excel on his own he should take it).
What needs to be done is that the co-owners need to stay out of the front office. Their only job is to pay the salaries. Gettleman also needs to be dismissed as an advisor of any sort!
For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
Doesn't matter. Today's win was the key to the draft possibilities. Which of the five teams ahead of the Giants will get to 5 wins? Maybe the Bears. And the Jets could jump ahead based on strength of schedule.
I had the Giants at 4-13 after the first Dallas game, do I get a prize?
Any shot at a top 3 pick is gone. It’s a 3 player draft the way I see it: Williams, Harrison, and Maye. Should Schoen and Daboll want one of those 2 QB’s in particular, it’s pretty much assured they will need to surrender future 1’s to get them. That’s the damage these last 2 meaningless wins have done.
probably one winnable game the rest of the way and even then that’s 50/50.
Those who want to tank will likely get it
Why would it be hard for Schoen to tell Mara he believed the exact same thing as Mara did? I can promise you John Mara’s view when the season is over will not be “only an idiot would have thought Daniel Jones could be an NFL QB.”
The conspiracy theories are starting to get out of hand around here.
Again, you guys are out of your minds if you think Daboll is going anywhere soon or that his seat would be warm.
He’s winning games with a third string QB and should probably have the Giants in the playoff picture if not for one of those weird Bills/Jets outcomes.
Daboll is a really good coach. They need better players. They won’t be tanking or trying to lose games in order to do that. GTFO with that nonsense.
And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid. There's a good chance these wins are just costing them the chance to draft a WR or OL.
It's going to be interesting what the media message is with Jones's post-surgery recovery. If we start hearing how strong he's looking in January/February it could be a look into the front office mindset to run it back with Daniel.
This is silly. There will be stories about how hard he is working and well he is recovering because he is the QB of this team and it is a story. What would you expect them to report…Jones took another day off from rehab to binge Real Housewives?
We will absolutely hear Jones is recovering well and working hard. That will tell us nothing about their plans for the draft. Why would you expect them to broadcast their plans for the draft several months in advance?
Because they care a lot about getting fan buy in and seeing the stage for what they think the fans want to see. Why would the owner come out and speak well of Jones during a contract negotiation, for example?
Conversely, maybe we start hearing that they "want to take it slow with Jones", or that the neck continues to be a concern. I would interpret that as laying the foundation for a pivot away from him: "We still believe in Daniel as the franchise QB, but the injuries forced our hand."
It was also a miserable day for them to play, but thank goodness Tommy D and the Giants got their second dub in a row. Stack 'em up boys!
Dexy needs to rest up during the bye, and X doesn't need to go back to Mexico like last season. Chill, heal up, then come back to beat Green Bay!
This whole “damage is done” is such dramatic bullshit.
Getting a quarterback (which they might still do) is something they’ll have to discuss as a front office after the season depending on where their draft slot is.
Tanking and purposely losing games is something the Giants will never do.
The last time you guys all cried about it, it turned out that the player you wanted was not nearly as good as they one we got.
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How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
We gave up a huge ransom for Eli and nobody was complaining about it after the 2007 Superbowl.
You don't think Rivers or Big Ben could have won the SB with those teams?
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
We gave up a huge ransom for Eli and nobody was complaining about it after the 2007 Superbowl.
You don't think Rivers or Big Ben could have won the SB with those teams?
Those Steeler and Charger teams were better than what Eli played with. Look how many HOFers Rivers played with or how many top 5 defenses Ben had.
Yet we keep getting people jump in here every week saying “The Giants will not purposely throw games.” Duh. Literally everybody knows that.
The argument is that wins don’t help. Agree or disagree with that, but stop purposefully misstating what people are saying so you can come in and play voice of reason with you silly posts.
I am now very glad we won…..I’m not going to fret over what slot we pick in the draft any longer…..besides, we are hit or miss picking in round one, so let the chips fall where they may…..
I’m more excited watching our Italian Stallion, Tommy DeVito, grow as a QB. He knows how to use Jalin Hyatt. I’m sure he will learn how to get rid of the ball faster with experience. I want to see all our young players grow and have success like Banks and McFadden.
Play that out. The Giants would purposefully put out information that would tell the public what they plan to do in the draft just to get fan “buy-in?”
Mara came out and said what he said during negotiations because he through he was helping. Same thing as when he thought he was helping when he publicly called out the coaches for not seeing the brilliance of Jerrel Jernigan, or claimed the team was fixed after last season.
John Mara says stupid things because he doesn’t understand football and he is not a football guy. He is not an evil genius running a Machiavellian scheme behind the scenes. Nothing in his history with this franchise would suggest that.
RE: RE: If the Giants aren’t able to get a franchise QB
This draft, Schoen and Daboll won’t be here past 2025.
Again, speculative bullshit.
So is what you’re posting. So was your Jayden Daniels scouting report.
It’s speculative, but it’s certainly not bullshit. If the Giants start off 0-3 next year, their seats get hot. If they finish with 6 wins or less next year they’re not going to keep their jobs absent the safety net of having a rookie QB.
probably one winnable game the rest of the way and even then that’s 50/50.
Those who want to tank will likely get it
Again, the damage is already done.
These quarterbacks aren't going 1-3.
They have all shown much more as a QB than Richardson had last year. Where did he go? QBs going 1, 2, 3 has, I think, only happened once. But this year is a perfect storm where need (desperation) matches up with talent. It could very easily happen.
They have all shown much more as a QB than Richardson had last year. Where did he go? QBs going 1, 2, 3 has, I think, only happened once. But this year is a perfect storm where need (desperation) matches up with talent. It could very easily happen.
This. At the minimum three of them are going in the top 4 or 5 barring a serious injury or getting arrested between now and April.
This a great point. The wins at the end of last year ended up blinding the front office to what this team was, and lead to some very bad decisions. Wins are good as long as you understand every win is not the same, and you are not lead to a false sense of security like last year.
I don’t think anyone is overvaluing these wins like the team did last year. At least I hope not.
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I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Allen went 7th overall. Which is where we are slated, at the moment.
Sure, but the top 6 teams in that draft were not looking for QBs.
Two of those six teams did draft a QB (Mayfield and Darnold) What do you mean that they were not looking for a QB?
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At 7 or Penix than tank
The point is Jayden Daniels isn’t dropping to 7.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
We gave up a huge ransom for Eli and nobody was complaining about it after the 2007 Superbowl.
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That’s the craziest part of that nonsense. It doesn’t mean shit the following year. Heck, what the Giants did last season didn’t mean shit this year.
I can understand players and coaches wanting to win, but fans should be able to see the bigger picture.
We can play this debate all day long. You’re right these wins don’t apply to next season, but if you’re gonna sit here and tell me that going 3-14 or 2-15 isn’t concerning or isn’t a bad sign that the staff in place is overmatched, I don’t know what to tell you.
If you wanna believe in dabol, you need to see wins here. Don’t tell me that you’d be a firm believer in the staff if they went 2-15 this season and lost to the dregs of the nfl along the way. That’s just insane.
Also, the season isn’t over yet. You telling me if this team gets the six and eight, and you have a faint glimmer of playoff hope, you’re gonna be mad?
Win next week.
Yes. The dopamine hit 6-8 will give you isn’t worth it
Do you think none of them will get picked in the top 7, or you think none of them is worthy of being picked that high?
The first statement will almost certainly be proven wrong. Not sure what the second one would be based on other than not having watched any of them play.
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At 7 or Penix than tank
The point is Jayden Daniels isn’t dropping to 7.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
I'm not convinced right now the Cardinals or Bears will pick a QB. Patriots? Perhaps. They have four top 100 picks. They have ammo to move up, if necessary. Maye, Williams and Daniels aren't going 1 thru 3.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
And the Giants could have just as easily beat the Bills and Jets. Could have lost to the Cardinals. They are where they should be. They'll have a high pick. I could see them finishing 4-13. It'll be fine.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
My goodness. It’s one thing if they were playing well, but they were outgained and had half as many first downs as a team using Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe as it’s quarterbacks.
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I do love how many assume if we draft top 3, we are getting a stud at QB. Mahomes went 10th. Allen & LJax went in the 20s.
Allen went 7th overall. Which is where we are slated, at the moment.
Sure, but the top 6 teams in that draft were not looking for QBs.
Two of those six teams did draft a QB (Mayfield and Darnold) What do you mean that they were not looking for a QB?
Two of the six did. This year ALL five teams currently ahead of the Giants (4 for sure) will be looking for QBs, not two. Plus a few more right behind the Giants will too, which will drive up the package needed to trade up. If only two teams ahead of the Giants wanted a QB it wouln't matter. That's not the case this year. That is my point.
Agree. Win,win...wins are why we are fans, we suck so a loss is tolerable in this situation. We could've been 6-6 with Ws over Buf/Jets
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This team needed 9 turnovers and horrendous QB play to win their last two games against dregs of the league.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
And the Giants could have just as easily beat the Bills and Jets. Could have lost to the Cardinals. They are where they should be. They'll have a high pick. I could see them finishing 4-13. It'll be fine.
This whole season is garbage
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This team needed 9 turnovers and horrendous QB play to win their last two games against dregs of the league.
There really is nothing here besides two garbage wins against garbage teams who have quit on their seasons. The Giants almost lost both these games.
My goodness. It’s one thing if they were playing well, but they were outgained and had half as many first downs as a team using Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe as it’s quarterbacks.
And what qb did the giants play with?
The Giants gave up a ransom to get Eli and it was well worth it. If Schoen and Daboll see a guy they want then you package what you need and you don’t look back. QB is the most important position on the field. The last few years have shown us the consequences what happens when you just wait and take who is still around.
Get to 5-8. Keep this going ,why the hell cant we orchestrate a little late season magic and salvage things. It happens all the time. Why not nyg. Keep it going.
I said it 10 times all week, even if you do believe in dabol before these last two wins, you really needed to see this team pick itself off the mat this season. And they have. This bodes well for the future.
So how do you correlate last year’s playoff season to this year’s debacle thus far as it relates to the future of this team? I’m struggling with how these last two wins when the season has long been over are good signs for the future; especially given that the playoff team from last year has better players and this team has been really bad.
It's going to be interesting what the media message is with Jones's post-surgery recovery. If we start hearing how strong he's looking in January/February it could be a look into the front office mindset to run it back with Daniel.
It's going to be interesting what the media message is with Jones's post-surgery recovery. If we start hearing how strong he's looking in January/February it could be a look into the front office mindset to run it back with Daniel.
This is silly. There will be stories about how hard he is working and well he is recovering because he is the QB of this team and it is a story. What would you expect them to report…Jones took another day off from rehab to binge Real Housewives?
We will absolutely hear Jones is recovering well and working hard. That will tell us nothing about their plans for the draft. Why would you expect them to broadcast their plans for the draft several months in advance?
It's going to be interesting what the media message is with Jones's post-surgery recovery. If we start hearing how strong he's looking in January/February it could be a look into the front office mindset to run it back with Daniel.
Schoen and Daboll will be cleaning out their offices in January 2025 if they stupidly stick with Jones. I may be wrong, but I would like to think they are smarter than that.
Imagine Schoen looking Mara in the face and saying, JK, Jones isn't it.
Those who want to tank will likely get it
Imagine Schoen looking Mara in the face and saying, JK, Jones isn't it.
Good thing that’s what he gets paid for.
I for one, would love to stop having to think about if losing is best for the franchise. The best way to do that is to get a franchise QB. The best chance of that is picking as high as possible so you can get your top guy. Sure they can trade up, but someone has to want to trade up and that’s using resources that could go toward other positions.
Sitting through this disaster of a season not coming away with a franchise QB would be an abject disaster.
Those who want to tank will likely get it
Again, the damage is already done.
Daboll is not getting sacked, if there is some adjustments to be made within the coaching staff they will address that after the final game of the season.
Joe Schoen and Barndon Brown are also not getting sacked, although Brandon may be considered for a GM position elsewhere in the league (I want him to stay with Big Blue, but if he gets a chance to excel on his own he should take it).
What needs to be done is that the co-owners need to stay out of the front office. Their only job is to pay the salaries. Gettleman also needs to be dismissed as an advisor of any sort!
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For all of you bitching and moaning about winning today, they likely aren't beating anyone on the remaining schedule.
Doesn't matter. Today's win was the key to the draft possibilities. Which of the five teams ahead of the Giants will get to 5 wins? Maybe the Bears. And the Jets could jump ahead based on strength of schedule.
I had the Giants at 4-13 after the first Dallas game, do I get a prize?
Any shot at a top 3 pick is gone. It’s a 3 player draft the way I see it: Williams, Harrison, and Maye. Should Schoen and Daboll want one of those 2 QB’s in particular, it’s pretty much assured they will need to surrender future 1’s to get them. That’s the damage these last 2 meaningless wins have done.
Those who want to tank will likely get it
Why would it be hard for Schoen to tell Mara he believed the exact same thing as Mara did? I can promise you John Mara’s view when the season is over will not be “only an idiot would have thought Daniel Jones could be an NFL QB.”
The conspiracy theories are starting to get out of hand around here.
He’s winning games with a third string QB and should probably have the Giants in the playoff picture if not for one of those weird Bills/Jets outcomes.
Daboll is a really good coach. They need better players. They won’t be tanking or trying to lose games in order to do that. GTFO with that nonsense.
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And that is this: they're on the hook for a lot of money to Jones next season. Drafting a QB high in round one would make them look very, very stupid. There's a good chance these wins are just costing them the chance to draft a WR or OL.
It's going to be interesting what the media message is with Jones's post-surgery recovery. If we start hearing how strong he's looking in January/February it could be a look into the front office mindset to run it back with Daniel.
This is silly. There will be stories about how hard he is working and well he is recovering because he is the QB of this team and it is a story. What would you expect them to report…Jones took another day off from rehab to binge Real Housewives?
We will absolutely hear Jones is recovering well and working hard. That will tell us nothing about their plans for the draft. Why would you expect them to broadcast their plans for the draft several months in advance?
Because they care a lot about getting fan buy in and seeing the stage for what they think the fans want to see. Why would the owner come out and speak well of Jones during a contract negotiation, for example?
Conversely, maybe we start hearing that they "want to take it slow with Jones", or that the neck continues to be a concern. I would interpret that as laying the foundation for a pivot away from him: "We still believe in Daniel as the franchise QB, but the injuries forced our hand."
Dexy needs to rest up during the bye, and X doesn't need to go back to Mexico like last season. Chill, heal up, then come back to beat Green Bay!
Getting a quarterback (which they might still do) is something they’ll have to discuss as a front office after the season depending on where their draft slot is.
Tanking and purposely losing games is something the Giants will never do.
The last time you guys all cried about it, it turned out that the player you wanted was not nearly as good as they one we got.
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At 7 or Penix than tank
The point is Jayden Daniels isn’t dropping to 7.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
We gave up a huge ransom for Eli and nobody was complaining about it after the 2007 Superbowl.
You don't think Rivers or Big Ben could have won the SB with those teams?
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Those who want to tank will likely get it
Again, the damage is already done.
These quarterbacks aren't going 1-3.
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At 7 or Penix than tank
The point is Jayden Daniels isn’t dropping to 7.
How do you know? And why can't the Giants use those four top 100 picks to maneuver up?
No one is going to trade down unless they get this AND next year's firsts - to start. Virtually every team ahead of the Giants is going to be looking for a QB. The asking prices will be extremely high this year.
We gave up a huge ransom for Eli and nobody was complaining about it after the 2007 Superbowl.
You don't think Rivers or Big Ben could have won the SB with those teams?
Those Steeler and Charger teams were better than what Eli played with. Look how many HOFers Rivers played with or how many top 5 defenses Ben had.
The argument is that wins don’t help. Agree or disagree with that, but stop purposefully misstating what people are saying so you can come in and play voice of reason with you silly posts.
Letting two more QB needy/desperate teams jump ahead of them. Neither the Pats nor the Commanders have a likely win in the rest of their games.
Again, speculative bullshit.
I’m more excited watching our Italian Stallion, Tommy DeVito, grow as a QB. He knows how to use Jalin Hyatt. I’m sure he will learn how to get rid of the ball faster with experience. I want to see all our young players grow and have success like Banks and McFadden.
GIANTS WIN, GIANTS WIN, GIANTS WIN!
Go root for another team dude. In all seriousness
Mara came out and said what he said during negotiations because he through he was helping. Same thing as when he thought he was helping when he publicly called out the coaches for not seeing the brilliance of Jerrel Jernigan, or claimed the team was fixed after last season.
John Mara says stupid things because he doesn’t understand football and he is not a football guy. He is not an evil genius running a Machiavellian scheme behind the scenes. Nothing in his history with this franchise would suggest that.
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This draft, Schoen and Daboll won’t be here past 2025.
Again, speculative bullshit.
So is what you’re posting. So was your Jayden Daniels scouting report.
It’s speculative, but it’s certainly not bullshit. If the Giants start off 0-3 next year, their seats get hot. If they finish with 6 wins or less next year they’re not going to keep their jobs absent the safety net of having a rookie QB.
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probably one winnable game the rest of the way and even then that’s 50/50.
Those who want to tank will likely get it
Again, the damage is already done.
These quarterbacks aren't going 1-3.
They have all shown much more as a QB than Richardson had last year. Where did he go? QBs going 1, 2, 3 has, I think, only happened once. But this year is a perfect storm where need (desperation) matches up with talent. It could very easily happen.
You're a bully.
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The sherif of the thought police is back
Go root for another team dude. In all seriousness
I’ll root for the team I spend thousands of dollars on a year. You can eat a dick.
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The sherif of the thought police is back
You're a bully.
Lmao
They have all shown much more as a QB than Richardson had last year. Where did he go? QBs going 1, 2, 3 has, I think, only happened once. But this year is a perfect storm where need (desperation) matches up with talent. It could very easily happen.
This. At the minimum three of them are going in the top 4 or 5 barring a serious injury or getting arrested between now and April.