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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/26/2023 3:56 pm
Not sure that was a win.
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RE: Giants could also be 6-6  
JCassmen : 11/26/2023 8:54 pm : link
In comment 16302758 Sean said:
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Or 5-7. Or 3-9.

Wasting energy over where the Giants draft in November must be exhausting. It'll be on the regime to figure it out. If they won't, they'll be fired.

The good news? Daboll has not lost the locker room.

+1
RE: I’ve changed my stance  
JCassmen : 11/26/2023 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16302985 5BowlsSoon said:
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I am now very glad we won…..I’m not going to fret over what slot we pick in the draft any longer…..besides, we are hit or miss picking in round one, so let the chips fall where they may…..

I’m more excited watching our Italian Stallion, Tommy DeVito, grow as a QB. He knows how to use Jalin Hyatt. I’m sure he will learn how to get rid of the ball faster with experience. I want to see all our young players grow and have success like Banks and McFadden.

GIANTS WIN, GIANTS WIN, GIANTS WIN!


Amen!
Glad we won…  
5BowlsSoon : 11/26/2023 9:20 pm : link
Just to be able to enjoy the bye week better. Hopefully we get a few key players back in two weeks as well.
RE: Dnew  
ChrisRick : 11/26/2023 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16303293 Mike from Ohio said:
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I am surprised how many people here only watch the Giants and have no idea what happens in football outside of whether the Giants won or lost.

I have seen some posters suggest that the percentage of top 5 QB selections who were not good suggest you should therefore never select a QB in the top 5. We also have posters who suggest you should just pick offensive linemen because that is a safe pick who will solve the line problems, despite our own experiences with that. There are even a few who (seriously)don’t want to draft certain positions from certain college programs because other players at that position 30 years ago were not good, as if a witch put a hex on it.

This site needs an ignore feature so you can block out the emotional football shut ins from people who want to talk football.



One of my All-Time favourites, and that’s favorites with the U
RE: Nobody is suggesting that the team is trying to lose games  
BlueVinnie : 11/27/2023 8:17 am : link
In comment 16302978 Mike from Ohio said:
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Yet we keep getting people jump in here every week saying “The Giants will not purposely throw games.” Duh. Literally everybody knows that.

The argument is that wins don’t help. Agree or disagree with that, but stop purposefully misstating what people are saying so you can come in and play voice of reason with you silly posts.

THANK YOU!!!!
congrats on the win  
bc4life : 11/27/2023 8:19 am : link
never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.
RE: congrats on the win  
Mike from Ohio : 11/27/2023 8:52 am : link
In comment 16303884 bc4life said:
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never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.


Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.

Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?
RE: RE: congrats on the win  
Mike in NY : 11/27/2023 8:56 am : link
In comment 16303924 Mike from Ohio said:
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never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.



Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.

Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?


Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.
RE: RE: RE: congrats on the win  
Mike from Ohio : 11/27/2023 9:28 am : link
In comment 16303930 Mike in NY said:
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never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.



Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.

Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?



Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.


Every position busts at the top of the draft. Do you want to take a tackle in the top 10 to replace Evan Neal who we took at #7? Does Ereck Flowers ring a bell?

What position at the top of the draft is safe from busts?
RE: RE: RE: RE: congrats on the win  
Mike in NY : 11/27/2023 9:42 am : link
In comment 16303991 Mike from Ohio said:
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never rooting for losses. anyone thinking a QB is going to take this team past Cowboys & Eagles is kidding themselves. Lot of holes on this roster. Team is playing better, competing.



Saying a QB won't take this team past the Eagles and Cowboys is the same as saying that a RT or Edge won't take this team past the Eagles or Cowboys. Of course one player won't. Nobody is suggesting it will.

Unfortunately, NFL rules only allow teams who are on the clock during the draft to pick one player at a time. Most believe QB is the most important position on the team. Why not prioritize that one with your first pick?



Because of the history of flawed QB’s busting. Even guys who were the top in their class busted because they did not have the proper surrounding talent. Mahomes went 10th and sat for his rookie year behind Alex Smith.



Every position busts at the top of the draft. Do you want to take a tackle in the top 10 to replace Evan Neal who we took at #7? Does Ereck Flowers ring a bell?

What position at the top of the draft is safe from busts?


No position is safe. What I am getting at is that we should not overdraft a QB just because he is a QB. Bo Nix isn’t a first round talent yet people had us taking him at #5 because Giants need a QB. That type of thinking only increases the likelihood of drafting a bust.
Mike in NY  
Mike from Ohio : 11/27/2023 9:48 am : link
I don't think anyone is suggesting the Giants just take the best QB left on the board when they pick, regardless of what grade they have on them. If people have posted that I have not seen that suggestion made.

We have seen QBs like Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen all get drafted between 7 and 22. You don't need a top 3 pick to take a QB.
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