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larryflower37 : 11/26/2023 4:13 pm
Durant is a game time decision. Suns have won 6 straight.

#LFGK.
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Aaaand that’s why.  
bceagle05 : 11/26/2023 8:35 pm : link
Could see that coming.
Merry fricken Cbristmas to Booker  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2023 8:35 pm : link
what a chuck
frustrating loss  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2023 8:37 pm : link
Suns Scrubs showed up and Booker makes a chuck to win the game..
Felt like a loss the whole way.  
bceagle05 : 11/26/2023 8:38 pm : link
Down 7-0 before the national anthem ended.
One of those games  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2023 8:40 pm : link
very frustrating because KD was out, but thwir scrubs made shots, and the Knicks just couldnt get any momentum
Free throws continue to kill us too.  
bceagle05 : 11/26/2023 8:41 pm : link
Big miss from Brunson on the take foul, and Mitch being his inept self.
Tough loss.  
larryflower37 : 11/26/2023 8:44 pm : link
Some positives Randle bounced back and Brunson is on fire.
RJ's Defense the last 2 games has been on point..
Next 3 games are winnable.

LFGK.
Quickley needs to start  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2023 8:47 pm : link
enough is enough, Grimes played some good defense tonight but the lineup is so much better with quickley in..

start quick and stagger the rotations so he can still play with the bench..

When you bring in hart for Rj, bring in DDV for Quick, you can let Brunson play most of the 1st and 3rd
Randle couldn’t even be bothered  
bceagle05 : 11/26/2023 8:53 pm : link
to raise his arms to contest the Booker three. So sick of his shit.
RE: Randle couldn’t even be bothered  
Stu11 : 11/26/2023 9:04 pm : link
In comment 16303562 bceagle05 said:
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to raise his arms to contest the Booker three. So sick of his shit.

The Randle derangement syndrome is real. Listen he drives us all nuts but tonight is not the night. He was vintage '21 Randle in the 2nd half and the only times the stopped him were when they fouled the crap out of him with no calls. AND he was the only one who contested the last Shot! It was RJ who never got his hands up. It's an infuriating loss but it's one night you can't blame Randle.
RE: Quickley needs to start  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/26/2023 9:23 pm : link
In comment 16303552 nygiants16 said:
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enough is enough, Grimes played some good defense tonight but the lineup is so much better with quickley in..

start quick and stagger the rotations so he can still play with the bench..

When you bring in hart for Rj, bring in DDV for Quick, you can let Brunson play most of the 1st and 3rd


Quick for sure needs to take the tech free throws when he’s on the floor. I mean damn.
RE: Quickley needs to start  
larryflower37 : 11/26/2023 9:28 pm : link
In comment 16303552 nygiants16 said:
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enough is enough, Grimes played some good defense tonight but the lineup is so much better with quickley in..

start quick and stagger the rotations so he can still play with the bench..

When you bring in hart for Rj, bring in DDV for Quick, you can let Brunson play most of the 1st and 3rd


Its a big difference when you have 4 scores vs 3 on the floor.
Plus RJ is playing defense this year and IQ's defense is on par with Grimes.
Fourth quarter FGAs/FGMs  
shyster : 11/26/2023 9:35 pm : link
Randle 2-6
Brunson 2-5
IQ 1-5
Hartenstein 1-1
RJB 0-2 (both on one possession)
DDV 0-1
Total: 6-20

If you go into the 4Q down by 3 points, and have that shot profile, you'd be very lucky to come out with a W (or get to OT).

And tonight they were not very lucky.
RE: RE: Randle couldn’t even be bothered  
Enzo : 11/26/2023 9:36 pm : link
In comment 16303582 Stu11 said:
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In comment 16303562 bceagle05 said:


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to raise his arms to contest the Booker three. So sick of his shit.


The Randle derangement syndrome is real. Listen he drives us all nuts but tonight is not the night. He was vintage '21 Randle in the 2nd half and the only times the stopped him were when they fouled the crap out of him with no calls. AND he was the only one who contested the last Shot! It was RJ who never got his hands up. It's an infuriating loss but it's one night you can't blame Randle.

watch it again.
RE: RE: RE: Randle couldn’t even be bothered  
Stu11 : 11/26/2023 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16303633 Enzo said:
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In comment 16303582 Stu11 said:


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In comment 16303562 bceagle05 said:


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to raise his arms to contest the Booker three. So sick of his shit.


The Randle derangement syndrome is real. Listen he drives us all nuts but tonight is not the night. He was vintage '21 Randle in the 2nd half and the only times the stopped him were when they fouled the crap out of him with no calls. AND he was the only one who contested the last Shot! It was RJ who never got his hands up. It's an infuriating loss but it's one night you can't blame Randle.


watch it again.

Is that directed at me? Because I watched it when it happened then watched it again about 5 times before I posted to make sure.
Looks like Lamelo will be out Tuesday  
nygiants16 : 11/26/2023 9:58 pm : link
sprained his ankle tonight
RE: Looks like Lamelo will be out Tuesday  
Stu11 : 11/26/2023 10:04 pm : link
In comment 16303669 nygiants16 said:
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sprained his ankle tonight

Yeah it didn't look good at all. He had to be helped to the lockeroom. Seems like he hurts his ankle bad every year.
Barrett had been playing so well before missing time  
Greg from LI : 11/26/2023 10:08 pm : link
Only 16-53 in the four games since he returned
I keep thinking about Zach Lavine  
nygiants16 : 11/27/2023 9:01 am : link
i know i am in the minority on Lavine but lets say Bulls would be willing to take Randle? Say you go Randle, Fournier and Grimes for Lavine and Pat Williams?..maybe a couple of picks involved..

is Brunson, Lavine, Rj, Hart, Mitch with Quick, DDV, Williams, Hartenstein better than what they have now?

Team is faster, better defensive team, you habe Williams for teams who play maybe a bigger front line, better shooting..
Lavine doesn't want to play for the Knicks, I thought?.  
Greg from LI : 11/27/2023 9:06 am : link
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RE: Lavine doesn't want to play for the Knicks, I thought?.  
nygiants16 : 11/27/2023 9:07 am : link
In comment 16303950 Greg from LI said:
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Only person who has ever reported that was Bondy of the post and well you know how good of a reporter he is..
was Randle really not  
Enzo : 11/27/2023 9:36 am : link
lined up for a free throw rebound because he was arguing with a ref? WTF?
Randle episode, 2:45 remaining 4Q  
shyster : 11/27/2023 10:34 am : link
He goes up for shot, misses, Mitch gets the rebound and is fouled attempting put-back.

Randle thinks he was fouled, so he goes wandering outside the key to argue with the ref, leaving Brunson lined up in rebound position.

After Mitch misses the first, Randle realizes he's not where he should be, too late. Mitch's second miss rebounds in Brunson's direction, but he's outmatched in size and Suns get it.

Bigger picture: rest of league knows Randle's act; he's not a desirable trade commodity.


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RE: was Randle really not  
bceagle05 : 11/27/2023 10:57 am : link
In comment 16304001 Enzo said:
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lined up for a free throw rebound because he was arguing with a ref? WTF?

Yes, a Mitch free throw to boot. Breen killed him for it.
Zach Lavine is a loser  
Heisenberg : 11/27/2023 11:37 am : link
Not interested in him at all. Randle and Grimes >> Lavine and Williams.
this arguing with the refs crap  
AROCK1000 : 11/27/2023 11:46 am : link
is a league wide problem-and needs to stop.
Perhaps if Adam Silver won't,Thibs and the coaches should put the kybosh on it....
It hurts the team
RJ does it too and I cringe
Is it me  
JT039 : 11/28/2023 12:32 pm : link
or the Bucks and the Heat on national TV every week?

I am tired of watching them play each other.
Clippers lost last night to denver  
nygiants16 : 11/28/2023 12:39 pm : link
at home and Denver was led by reggie jackson snd Deandre Jordan, Jokic, Murray and Gordon all out
RE: Zach Lavine is a loser  
Greg from LI : 11/28/2023 1:34 pm : link
In comment 16304436 Heisenberg said:
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Not interested in him at all. Randle and Grimes >> Lavine and Williams.


Grimes has been putrid this season
Its looking like Knicks  
nygiants16 : 11/28/2023 1:40 pm : link
may have 4 top 40 picks in this years draft, their own 1st, Dallas 1st, Pistons unprotected 2nd and jazz unprotected 2nd
Knicks on the season  
Knickstape : 11/28/2023 1:53 pm : link
7-0 vs teams below .500
2-7 vs teams above .500

Tough schedule to start the season but feels about what the Knicks are capable of 5-8 seed range. Handle business against crappy teams but they aren’t going to be able to handle the good/top teams.

Eventually if this team wants to raise its ceiling it’s gotta come in the form of a trade. I don’t know who fits that bill. I see the appeal of a lavine to help lighten the load of Brunson but if you’re gonna spend alot of assets I think it needs to be a clear upper echelon type of player. Issue is you can’t guarantee they become available.
RE: Is it me  
Stu11 : 11/28/2023 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16306110 JT039 said:
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or the Bucks and the Heat on national TV every week?

I am tired of watching them play each other.

Well tonight it's cool because of the in season tournament relevance for the Knicks.
Long story short  
Semipro Lineman : 11/28/2023 2:35 pm : link
The In-Season Tournament is silly but I'm hooked and want to see the Knicks advance by beating the Hornets by 8 plus points. Don't do this if you're only ahead by seven points ...



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Yeah I'm more into this tournament thing than I thought I'd be  
Stu11 : 11/28/2023 2:58 pm : link
I want to see the Knicks advance. I guess listening to Scal and Isola every morning on NBA radio has gotten me into it. It will be very interesting to see how the East teams handle it in terms of going all out to run it up even if the game isn't close. 2 of the 3 East divisions- Ours and Boston/Orlando/Nets are wide open. Cleveland also is alive for a WC even though Indiana has clinched theirs.
RE: Knicks on the season  
nygiants16 : 11/28/2023 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16306225 Knickstape said:
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7-0 vs teams below .500
2-7 vs teams above .500

Tough schedule to start the season but feels about what the Knicks are capable of 5-8 seed range. Handle business against crappy teams but they aren’t going to be able to handle the good/top teams.

Eventually if this team wants to raise its ceiling it’s gotta come in the form of a trade. I don’t know who fits that bill. I see the appeal of a lavine to help lighten the load of Brunson but if you’re gonna spend alot of assets I think it needs to be a clear upper echelon type of player. Issue is you can’t guarantee they become available.


Stat doesnt really tell the whole story..

lost to Boston on opening night and got absokutely screwed on a call up 6 that should of put Brunson at the line shooting 3, instead they called a flopping technical on Brunson..

Lost to Boston on a back to back

Lost to the Bucks in the final seconds on the road..

Lost to Minnesota on the end of a 5 game trip where they played 5 games in 7 nights..

Lost to the Suns on a fadeaway 3..

Pelicans was on a back to back

So yeah 2-7 but its not like they are getting blown out by good teams and most of them the Knicks were at a rest disadvantage
I guess I'm the oddball then  
Greg from LI : 11/28/2023 3:37 pm : link
I have absolutely no interest in this ridiculous "tournament"
RE: I guess I'm the oddball then  
nygiants16 : 11/28/2023 4:01 pm : link
In comment 16306428 Greg from LI said:
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I have absolutely no interest in this ridiculous "tournament"


It may have been the same because it was Miami but there was definitely a different buzz in the Garden friday night for the IST game..

Granted they played Miami but it seems like the players and fans are getting into it
RE: I guess I'm the oddball then  
Semipro Lineman : 11/28/2023 4:10 pm : link
In comment 16306428 Greg from LI said:
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I have absolutely no interest in this ridiculous "tournament"


This surprises me Greg, because you are usually one of the more open-minded members of the forum who likes new things.
they needed to do something  
Enzo : 11/28/2023 4:21 pm : link
to make the tournament games different other than stupid new courts. Maybe use the Elam ending? Play by international rules (no goaltending, etc.)? Play 4 on 4? Introduce a 4 pt shot? SOMETHING!

And it needs a better name!
RE: RE: I guess I'm the oddball then  
Greg from LI : 11/28/2023 4:36 pm : link
In comment 16306490 Semipro Lineman said:
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This surprises me Greg, because you are usually one of the more open-minded members of the forum who likes new things.


Yeah Greg hating it may be the least surprising thing I've encountered  
Stu11 : 11/28/2023 6:09 pm : link
In the past decade.
I don’t even know what an “in season tournament” is supposed to be  
Greg from LI : 11/28/2023 7:18 pm : link
They’re just regular season games
Looks like Mitch is playing full first quarters now?  
bceagle05 : 11/28/2023 8:01 pm : link
The highest honor granted by General Thibs.
Nope, IHart  
bceagle05 : 11/28/2023 8:03 pm : link
gets the last minute after a timeout.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/28/2023 8:04 pm : link
I'm with Greg. The in-season tournament does nothing for me.
lol what a shit start to the 3rd  
Knickstape : 11/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
..
Is RJ becoming money  
xman : 11/28/2023 9:24 pm : link
at the free throw line
RE: I don’t even know what an “in season tournament” is supposed to be  
Del Shofner : 11/28/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16306734 Greg from LI said:
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They’re just regular season games


I'm only starting to get it. I believe that now that the Knicks are in the 1/4-finals, there will be extra games that are not regular season.

I think. They sure haven't explained it very well.
RE: RE: I don’t even know what an “in season tournament” is supposed to be  
shyster : 11/28/2023 10:30 pm : link
In comment 16306880 Del Shofner said:
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I'm only starting to get it. I believe that now that the Knicks are in the 1/4-finals, there will be extra games that are not regular season.

I think. They sure haven't explained it very well.


Only the championship game is an extra 83rd game that doesn't count for the regular season for the two teams involved.

The quarters and semis count as regular season games.

Every team was only assigned 80 games in the schedule published before the season. The 22 teams that didn't make the quarters will play two additional games against other teams that didn't make the quarters.

The teams that lose in the quarters play one additional game against a quarter loser from their own conference.

The teams that lose in the semis have played their two additional games necessary to make 82.

Leaving the two semi winners to battle it out in the one game that doesn't count in the regular standings.

RE: RE: RE: I don’t even know what an “in season tournament” is supposed to be  
Del Shofner : 11/28/2023 10:36 pm : link
In comment 16306885 shyster said:
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In comment 16306880 Del Shofner said:


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I'm only starting to get it. I believe that now that the Knicks are in the 1/4-finals, there will be extra games that are not regular season.

I think. They sure haven't explained it very well.



Only the championship game is an extra 83rd game that doesn't count for the regular season for the two teams involved.

The quarters and semis count as regular season games.

Every team was only assigned 80 games in the schedule published before the season. The 22 teams that didn't make the quarters will play two additional games against other teams that didn't make the quarters.

The teams that lose in the quarters play one additional game against a quarter loser from their own conference.

The teams that lose in the semis have played their two additional games necessary to make 82.

Leaving the two semi winners to battle it out in the one game that doesn't count in the regular standings.


Thanks! Pretty simple .... :-)
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