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Monday's Press Conferences with Schoen and Daboll

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 8:10 am

Monday, November 27, 2023

Head Coach Brian Daboll Available — Approx. 10:00 a.m.

Senior Vice President & General Manager Joe Schoen – Approx. 10:30 a.m.

Players Available – TBD

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 8:12 am : link
Pat Leonard @PLeonardNYDN

Giants corner Adoree Jackson on the possibility of losing Wink Martindale:

“I think losing a guy like Wink would be a huge blow,” the veteran corner said. “That’s why I don’t think he’ll do it. Because if you’re gonna do something like that, I don’t know, that’d be crazy … That’s like, let’s say you were a kid and you see your parents get into it and then they get a divorce. Then you’re sitting there like, ‘Damn, what the f— is going on?’

“And that’s how I personally feel it would be — it’s not gonna happen — but if that situation was to happen, that’s how I would be: like ‘What the hell is going on? Did we do something wrong? Is it us? Is it this? Is it that?’ And it [would be] too much confusion. That’s how I view it.

“[Martindale] coaches well, but he also listens to everybody and listens to the things we may want to change throughout the week or even during the game, which I think is cool. And I feel like you can’t have somebody else coming in. It could be the same, but at the end of the day that’s like somebody saying you’re gonna have a new stepdad or a stepmom. But I want my daddy or momma. I don’t want no stepdad.”

Jackson said he sees no sign of tension and “if that’s the case, they must need to get an Oscar or something. Good a– actors.”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 8:13 am : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Here’s everything I know about the Brian Daboll-Wink Martindale situation.

Some of it stems from the offense’s struggles and the pressure it has put on the defense, the polar opposite approaches of both coaches, the Xavier McKinney situation and more.

There has definitely been tension. Didn’t know it reached the point of Jay Glazer’s report. And they seem to have genuinely kept it from reaching the players, which gives hope the relationship can be mended long term. Especially when the defense is playing at this level.

Martindale didn’t just get the game ball out of nowhere after Sunday’s win 🤔
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 8:14 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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A high-ranking #Giants official who spoke to
@nypostsports
after the game called the idea of a Brian Daboll and Wink Martindale rift “complete bulls–t.”

By
@MarkCannizzaro
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 8:15 am : link
Carl Banks
@CarlBanksGIII
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Xavier McKinney has been Lights Out for the last few gms.. Sometimes, the *Squeaky Wheel* gets the oil. I'm glad he is more involved in the scheme, and I hope he stays a #NYGiants    that INT was special.. the break on the ball after being at the Line of Scrimmage 💰
Glazer's Source  
Costy16 : 11/27/2023 8:33 am : link
I'd love to know (and we never will) who the source within the Giants organization is that leaked this to Glazer. As others have pointed out, when Glazer usually breaks something, it's accurate.
A few thoughts  
Chris684 : 11/27/2023 8:43 am : link
While seemingly somewhat overblown, there does seem to be some smoke here. McKinney got the game ball last week, Wink this week. So while it seems like we shouldn't expect a Wink departure today, "complete bullshit" seems like a stretch as well.

My first thought on connecting obvious dots is that Strahan and Glazer are like brothers and Strahan has taken Thibs under his wing. Could there be a line off communication there? Not sure. I have no reason to believe Thibs would be involved, just a guess.
RE: A few thoughts  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 8:47 am : link
In comment 16303908 Chris684 said:
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While seemingly somewhat overblown, there does seem to be some smoke here. McKinney got the game ball last week, Wink this week. So while it seems like we shouldn't expect a Wink departure today, "complete bullshit" seems like a stretch as well.

My first thought on connecting obvious dots is that Strahan and Glazer are like brothers and Strahan has taken Thibs under his wing. Could there be a line off communication there? Not sure. I have no reason to believe Thibs would be involved, just a guess.


Except did you see KT's comments after the game?
Is it possible they fed someone something  
nygiants16 : 11/27/2023 8:50 am : link
and were trying to smoke out a rat? didnt Daboll do this last year with someone?

just a thought
We’ll find out soon enough.  
bceagle05 : 11/27/2023 8:58 am : link
I bet Wink’s coaching somewhere else next season - I trust Glazer’s sources, whoever they are.
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Chris684 : 11/27/2023 9:01 am : link
In comment 16303917 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16303908 Chris684 said:


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While seemingly somewhat overblown, there does seem to be some smoke here. McKinney got the game ball last week, Wink this week. So while it seems like we shouldn't expect a Wink departure today, "complete bullshit" seems like a stretch as well.

My first thought on connecting obvious dots is that Strahan and Glazer are like brothers and Strahan has taken Thibs under his wing. Could there be a line off communication there? Not sure. I have no reason to believe Thibs would be involved, just a guess.



Except did you see KT's comments after the game?


I just skimmed the transcript but didn't see anything other than a few questions, nothing that covered this topic.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 9:07 am : link
Charlotte Carroll @charlottecrrll

On the Wink Martindale-Brian Daboll tension, #giants Kayvon Thibodeaux says he “doesn’t acknowledge” things that don’t come from inside the building.

“Wink is a great coach”



The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper @GiantInsider

Kayvon praised the defense. Said he loves playing for Wink.
RE: Is it possible they fed someone something  
blueblood : 11/27/2023 9:20 am : link
In comment 16303920 nygiants16 said:
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and were trying to smoke out a rat? didnt Daboll do this last year with someone?

just a thought



This is also a possibility that should be worth considering. Anyone with half a brain could see how some tension could break out when the defense is doing all it can to keep the team in games and the offense is doing little to nothing...

I trust Jordan  
UberAlias : 11/27/2023 9:22 am : link
He said there is tension, and why wouldn't there be? The team came in with expectations and has not lived up to them. McKinney's comments were clear as day sign there was some tension out there.

But Jordan also said that he hadn't thought it had boiled to the point Glazer had made it, and I suspect there is a chance his remarks were stated a bit strongly.
Some people's first response  
UberAlias : 11/27/2023 9:24 am : link
Is always to go to the conspiracy. There must be some covert leak, lol.
RE: Is it possible they fed someone something  
Costy16 : 11/27/2023 9:27 am : link
In comment 16303920 nygiants16 said:
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and were trying to smoke out a rat? didnt Daboll do this last year with someone?

just a thought


Could be.
If only Wink had done a better job  
M.S. : 11/27/2023 9:36 am : link
coaching the offensive line, he wouldn't be in such a mess right now.
With management teams there is friction at times  
kelly : 11/27/2023 9:37 am : link
I could see Daboll not being happy with the defense against the cowpukes and Wink not being happy with the offense. Hard to imagine anyone was happy with that game.

I could see Daboll saying can we make a stop and Wink saying can you score some points.

Hopefully they can stay together.
RE: Is it possible they fed someone something  
Sean : 11/27/2023 9:43 am : link
In comment 16303920 nygiants16 said:
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and were trying to smoke out a rat? didnt Daboll do this last year with someone?

just a thought

My exact thoughts.
This stuff about their approaches being  
mittenedman : 11/27/2023 9:51 am : link
"polar opposites" is hard to understand. Why the f#ck did they hire him if their visions didn't align? It seems like revisionist BS.

Wink's an old school coach in the Buddy Ryan mold. I have zero doubt there's been tension about how unbelievably bad the offense was this year.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:00 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll on QB - staff will have plenty of meetings on this and other things
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:01 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll - waller and taylor are getting better...no definite timetable for their return
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:01 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Brian Daboll says Tyrod Taylor and Darren Waller are getting better. #giants

Do they have a chance to return after bye week?

“We’ll see”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:01 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll - devito has done everything asked...just met with him again this morning..."made some progress...done a good job"....
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:02 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll on devito - he trusts his eyes and is "intelligently aggressive"......the reps have helped him
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:04 am : link
Matt Citak
@MattCitak
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Coach Brian Daboll said they’ll work as a coaching staff over the next two weeks to determine who starts at quarterback moving forward. Tyrod Taylor (ribs) is eligible to come off IR after the bye and is “getting better,” but there’s no definite timetable for his return
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:05 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll on devito - "he has only played a few games and has a long way to go; he's done a good job"

#NYGiants Daboll - the younger players have played good football for the team....they have the right mindset and work hard to improve
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Ivan15 : 11/27/2023 10:08 am : link
In comment 16303878 Eric from BBI said:
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Carl Banks
@CarlBanksGIII
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Xavier McKinney has been Lights Out for the last few gms.. Sometimes, the *Squeaky Wheel* gets the oil. I'm glad he is more involved in the scheme, and I hope he stays a #NYGiants    that INT was special.. the break on the ball after being at the Line of Scrimmage 💰
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Until the interception,I can’t say I noticed McKinney at all.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:09 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll - gave wink the game ball because the defense had 3 takeaways and held a team to 7 pts
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:10 am : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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Daboll was asked about Wink and if he’ll be here the rest of the year. He said he addressed the matter last night.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:10 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Brian Daboll was asked 2x if he can assure that Wink Martindale will be the DC the rest of the season.

Said he is sticking to yesterday’s comments and moving forward.

So, not yes. But not no.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:11 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll - late bye week gives you more to look at than normal.....staff will work on reviewing on mon and tue and then get on to prep for packers
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:11 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Daboll -players will return next monday for walk thru
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:14 am : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Daboll twice avoids answering whether Wink Martindale will definitely remain the Giants’ defensive coordinator the rest of this season. And he makes another weight joke about him and Martindale meeting over donuts. Refers to his comments last night. GM Joe Schoen is due to speak soon
where are you all streaming this?  
ILGMan : 11/27/2023 10:19 am : link
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RE: where are you all streaming this?  
cjac : 11/27/2023 10:20 am : link
In comment 16304133 ILGMan said:
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Looks like we're getting the info from the beat writers tweets
RE: where are you all streaming this?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:21 am : link
In comment 16304133 ILGMan said:
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New York Giants

@Giants
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Watch GM Joe Schoen speak LIVE as the team heads into the bye week on http://Giants.com, GiantsTV, Giants App & YouTube
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:22 am : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Brian Daboll was asked if he could say for sure that Wink Martindale would be here rest of season.

Daboll said he’s leaving it at yesterday’s comments. Didn’t definitively say one way or other.
Thanks!  
ILGMan : 11/27/2023 10:22 am : link
Link just came up for Joe.
RE: Some people's first response  
nygiants16 : 11/27/2023 10:23 am : link
In comment 16303982 UberAlias said:
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Is always to go to the conspiracy. There must be some covert leak, lol.


Teams do it all the time
are you guys paying attention?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:26 am : link
Daboll wouldn't answer if Wink is safe even this year.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/27/2023 10:26 am : link
The Dabs Wink thing is weird.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:27 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Daboll still non-committal on #Giants QB after bye. Doesnt sound like it will be as simple as ‘gives us the best chance to win.’
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:27 am : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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Giants players were given the full week off for their bye week, per Brian Daboll. Still, there are players trickling in and Daboll already met with Tommy DeVito this morning.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/27/2023 10:28 am : link
It’d be a crime to bench DeVito for TT.
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k2tampa : 11/27/2023 10:28 am : link
In comment 16303953 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll @charlottecrrll

On the Wink Martindale-Brian Daboll tension, #giants Kayvon Thibodeaux says he “doesn’t acknowledge” things that don’t come from inside the building.

“Wink is a great coach”



The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper @GiantInsider

Kayvon praised the defense. Said he loves playing for Wink.


I have no way of knowing if that is what he truly believes, but do you really think he would say something bad?
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ThomasG : 11/27/2023 10:29 am : link
In comment 16304163 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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It’d be a crime to bench DeVito for TT.


Agree. Develop Devito as much as possible.
k2tampa  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:31 am : link
I think for some reason there is a clique on BBI that wants to blame KT for something.

I don't think this is coming from the players. They seem genuinely confused about all of this.

Meanwhile, Daboll basically confirmed he's not happy with Wink. Yet some think this is coming from the players? LOL
Schoen said Daniel Jones is his starter when he is ready  
ThomasG : 11/27/2023 10:31 am : link
but don't know when that is because of surgery/rehab.

Said he will address QB in either Free Agency or Draft though.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:32 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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Joe Schoen: The expectation is that Daniel Jones will be our starting QB when he’s healthy. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:32 am : link
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
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#NYGiants Schoen - difficult sked in first 11 days....and things snowballed...had some injuries but have to continue to build depth so we can remain competitive
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