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Monday's Press Conferences with Schoen and Daboll

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 8:10 am

Monday, November 27, 2023

Head Coach Brian Daboll Available — Approx. 10:00 a.m.

Senior Vice President & General Manager Joe Schoen – Approx. 10:30 a.m.

Players Available – TBD

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Not getting squat on Giants' website  
ColHowPepper : 11/27/2023 10:51 am : link
since 10:25
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:51 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Schoen:

"Through trying times we found out a lot about people in the building."
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ryanmkeane : 11/27/2023 10:52 am : link
If anyone thinks Joe Schoen is going to say "we are taking a QB i9n the first round" they are going to be disappointed.
RE: RE: Schoen not aligned with media reports about getting rid of  
ThomasG : 11/27/2023 10:54 am : link
In comment 16304262 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16304259 ThomasG said:


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Wink.



Someone should tell Daboll.

He just added fuel to that fire.


Schoen said Daboll addressed it already in initial response. And then intimated he doesn't agree with reported media story.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:55 am : link
In comment 16304270 ryanmkeane said:
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If anyone thinks Joe Schoen is going to say "we are taking a QB i9n the first round" they are going to be disappointed.


He just said he would.
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Anakim : 11/27/2023 10:55 am : link
In comment 16304267 Eric from BBI said:
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Schoen:

"Through trying times we found out a lot about people in the building."


What does that mean...
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ryanmkeane : 11/27/2023 10:55 am : link
"It's not a position you can just evaluate on film."

That is a great answer from Schoen on the QB stuff.
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Anakim : 11/27/2023 10:55 am : link
In comment 16304248 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
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Joe Schoen on the punt return situation earlier this season: “That’s on me.”


Accountability is so refreshing
ThomasG  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:56 am : link
All he needed to say was that Wink isn't going anywhere.

He chose not to.
RE: RE: Sounds like Jones will be the QB next year.  
ThomasG : 11/27/2023 10:56 am : link
In comment 16304263 Chris684 said:
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In comment 16304249 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Not sure I got that.

The obvious thing he hit on is that Jones is injured right now and his status for next year is up in the air anyway.


He said very adamantly he will address QB this offseason. He is doing a good job of providing enough "grayness" that he is looking for his replacement vs. adding to the QB room.

I like that.
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ryanmkeane : 11/27/2023 10:56 am : link
He said they would take BPA regardless of whether it was QB.

He did not say "we are definitely taking a quarterback in the 1st round of the draft."

What is so hard about this.
Schoen was watching his words carefully  
Chris684 : 11/27/2023 10:56 am : link
But the QBs in this draft are in play.
RE: RE: Sounds like Jones will be the QB next year.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/27/2023 10:57 am : link
In comment 16304263 Chris684 said:
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In comment 16304249 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Not sure I got that.

The obvious thing he hit on is that Jones is injured right now and his status for next year is up in the air anyway.


He literally said he expect him to be QB next year. Could be lying, but he said it.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:57 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - there is a human and locker room element to making deals....it was a tough decision to trade williams....says every trade is different and you dont always get the player involved in the process like this one
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:57 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - says the staff has done a great job of sticking together and following the team's plan
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:57 am : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Schoen:

"We will get this thing going, trust the process, we have a lot of good people working on getting it better."
RE: Schoen was watching his words carefully  
ryanmkeane : 11/27/2023 10:57 am : link
In comment 16304283 Chris684 said:
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But the QBs in this draft are in play.

Correct - but again - why should this be news to anyone?

Schoen is going to take the best player available for the Giants at that draft slot.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:58 am : link
Dan Salomone
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Joe Schoen said they have a lot of talented people in the building. "I believe the staff in there has stuck together" and understands the big picture.
RE: ThomasG  
ThomasG : 11/27/2023 10:58 am : link
In comment 16304279 Eric from BBI said:
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All he needed to say was that Wink isn't going anywhere.

He chose not to.


He said Wink wasn't going anywhere this season. Not sure where people get this stuff. Something like that.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:59 am : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - must be prepared to maybe bring in a QB who can win a few games early if jones is not ready for wk 1 next year.....so much is still undetermined
RE: RE: RE: Sounds like Jones will be the QB next year.  
Chris684 : 11/27/2023 10:59 am : link
In comment 16304284 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 16304263 Chris684 said:


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In comment 16304249 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Not sure I got that.

The obvious thing he hit on is that Jones is injured right now and his status for next year is up in the air anyway.



He literally said he expect him to be QB next year. Could be lying, but he said it.


And that would be the case if they draft a kid in the top 2 rounds, right?

They're not handing the starting role to a rookie either way so for him to say that is not earth shattering.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:59 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
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#Giants are not acting like Daniel Jones is definitely going to be ready for Week 1. Might need someone to get through a few weeks.

Smart.
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christian : 11/27/2023 10:59 am : link
Both Daboll and Schoen couldn't say "Wink will remain the defensive coordinator."

That's a pretty easy thing to say if it's true.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 10:59 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
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Joe Schoen indicates that #Giants ownership is on board with their plan. Important after all the 2-year cycle changes
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 11:00 am : link
Dan Salomone
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Schoen said there are no guarantees that Daniel Jones will be ready Week 1 in 2024 and they have to plan for that.
We knew this Art  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 11:00 am : link
Art Stapleton
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Tommy DeVito signed a standard 3-year rookie contract when he was added to the active roster earlier this season, Joe Schoen confirmed. #NYGiants
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/27/2023 11:01 am : link
In comment 16304303 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Salomone
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Schoen said there are no guarantees that Daniel Jones will be ready Week 1 in 2024 and they have to plan for that.


The smart and logical approach.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 11:01 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Biggest takeaway from Schoen: He said the “expectation” is that Daniel Jones will be the starting QB when he’s healthy. *However* Schoen pointed out that they need to add a QB this offseason based on the uncertain timeline of Jones’ ACL recovery. He didn’t rule out that being a QB in the draft.

Even in the first round? Schoen said they’ll take the “best player available.”
Joe Schoen always says the right thing  
M.S. : 11/27/2023 11:01 am : link
and does so with grace and aplomb. But you get no style points in the NFL. He either fixes this roster or he doesn't and by the end of next year I believe we are going to get a read on his long term employment at Mara Tech.
Why do these feeds  
Gap92 : 11/27/2023 11:01 am : link
always crap out?
BPA  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 11:02 am : link
is a myth.

They are clearly looking at QBs.
I don't want to read too much into body language  
aimrocky : 11/27/2023 11:03 am : link
but Schoen appeared uncomfortable talking about the Wink news. It certainly sounds like there's an issue.
RE: BPA  
ThomasG : 11/27/2023 11:04 am : link
In comment 16304317 Eric from BBI said:
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is a myth.

They are clearly looking at QBs.


Of course.

Maybe just me, but I like his answers and tone.
He was more upbeat on Daniel Jones  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/27/2023 11:04 am : link
than I would have expected. Of course, he isn't going to damage an asset, but he talked pretty specifically about finding a bridge to DJ being healthy. That isn't to say, if a special QB falls into their lap in the draft they won't take them. But didn't see any urgency in his manner.

The thing about not evaluating a QB solely from game tape was interesting coupled with his comments about the failure rate of high first-round QBs. The draft, as always, should be pretty interesting.
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ryanmkeane : 11/27/2023 11:04 am : link
This press conference solidified the fact that Schoen knows what he's doing, just based on how he handled a lot of those questions.
RE: I don't want to read too much into body language  
M.S. : 11/27/2023 11:04 am : link
In comment 16304319 aimrocky said:
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but Schoen appeared uncomfortable talking about the Wink news. It certainly sounds like there's an issue.

I saw the press conference. I saw no change in his body language.
RE: BPA  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/27/2023 11:05 am : link
In comment 16304317 Eric from BBI said:
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is a myth.

They are clearly looking at QBs.


Drafting a qb early essentially resets the clock on Daboll / Schoen right? Ownership would have to give them time with another qb I’d think.
JS  
bronxboy : 11/27/2023 11:05 am : link
Eric Gray returned two punts as junior and none as a senior. He has to be kidding. Gray had 9 punt returns total in 4 years.
I'd be stunned if Bobby Johnson is the OL coach next year  
Anakim : 11/27/2023 11:05 am : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 11:06 am : link
team that is happy with its QB doesn't draft a QB in the first round because of "BPA."

They do so either because they want to replace the existing starter or that guy is nearing the end.

Now Schoen may be perfectly happy with Jones and wants to be deliberately vague. But I doubt it.
RE: BPA  
ryanmkeane : 11/27/2023 11:06 am : link
In comment 16304317 Eric from BBI said:
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is a myth.

They are clearly looking at QBs.

You are making this something that it is not.

Of course they are looking at QBs. What they need to do is take BPA throughout the draft including the first few rounds, in case their QB choices are gone or they can't trade up, if they wanted to.

They aren't just blindly taking a quarterback no matter what. That would be stupid. And that is the same reason people got pissed off at the Jones pick.
RE: RE: I don't want to read too much into body language  
ThomasG : 11/27/2023 11:06 am : link
In comment 16304326 M.S. said:
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In comment 16304319 aimrocky said:


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but Schoen appeared uncomfortable talking about the Wink news. It certainly sounds like there's an issue.


I saw the press conference. I saw no change in his body language.


Agreed, no change.

While I think he may be acting kind of coy about not hearing about the Glazer report, he wasn't giving it any credibility.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/27/2023 11:06 am : link
Like the Dabs Wink thing is weird. Dabs had a chance to nip it in the bud this morning & all but punted.

It is odd.
RE: RE: BPA  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 11:07 am : link
In comment 16304327 GiantsRage2007 said:
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In comment 16304317 Eric from BBI said:


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is a myth.

They are clearly looking at QBs.



Drafting a qb early essentially resets the clock on Daboll / Schoen right? Ownership would have to give them time with another qb I’d think.


That's my take. They have a built in excuse. Not with Jones.
RE: any  
ryanmkeane : 11/27/2023 11:07 am : link
In comment 16304330 Eric from BBI said:
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team that is happy with its QB doesn't draft a QB in the first round because of "BPA."

They do so either because they want to replace the existing starter or that guy is nearing the end.

Now Schoen may be perfectly happy with Jones and wants to be deliberately vague. But I doubt it.

You are failing to recognize that taking a QB because you want to replace one doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do. If you take the 3rd or 4th "best" QB in the draft and pass on the 2nd WR or best edge player, that would be a bad decision.
ryanmkeane  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 11:08 am : link
If they are even considering a QB in the first round, they are not happy with Jones.

It's not that difficult.

RE: RE: I don't want to read too much into body language  
aimrocky : 11/27/2023 11:09 am : link
In comment 16304326 M.S. said:
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In comment 16304319 aimrocky said:


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but Schoen appeared uncomfortable talking about the Wink news. It certainly sounds like there's an issue.


I saw the press conference. I saw no change in his body language.


I heard his voice cracking, but everyone sees things differently. His non-commitment was the loudest statement regardless.
Schoen clearly said that coaching staff discussions  
logman : 11/27/2023 11:09 am : link
were an offseason topic, so any notion of Wink getting fired mid-season seems off the table

Obviously, any number of things can happen that results in a personnel change post-season.
 
christian : 11/27/2023 11:09 am : link
The best tactical move is to indicate Jones will be the starter next year.

Fans forget there are two audiences for these remarks, the market and ownership.
ryanmkeane  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/27/2023 11:09 am : link
You can't win in the NFL without a QB.

They must come out of this draft with a QB, either in the 1st round or 2nd.
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