The obvious thing he hit on is that Jones is injured right now and his status for next year is up in the air anyway.
He said very adamantly he will address QB this offseason. He is doing a good job of providing enough "grayness" that he is looking for his replacement vs. adding to the QB room.
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - there is a human and locker room element to making deals....it was a tough decision to trade williams....says every trade is different and you dont always get the player involved in the process like this one
Dan Salomone
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Joe Schoen said they have a lot of talented people in the building. "I believe the staff in there has stuck together" and understands the big picture.
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - must be prepared to maybe bring in a QB who can win a few games early if jones is not ready for wk 1 next year.....so much is still undetermined
RE: RE: RE: Sounds like Jones will be the QB next year.
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#Giants are not acting like Daniel Jones is definitely going to be ready for Week 1. Might need someone to get through a few weeks.
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Tommy DeVito signed a standard 3-year rookie contract when he was added to the active roster earlier this season, Joe Schoen confirmed. #NYGiants
Dan Duggan
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Biggest takeaway from Schoen: He said the “expectation” is that Daniel Jones will be the starting QB when he’s healthy. *However* Schoen pointed out that they need to add a QB this offseason based on the uncertain timeline of Jones’ ACL recovery. He didn’t rule out that being a QB in the draft.
Even in the first round? Schoen said they’ll take the “best player available.”
and does so with grace and aplomb. But you get no style points in the NFL. He either fixes this roster or he doesn't and by the end of next year I believe we are going to get a read on his long term employment at Mara Tech.
than I would have expected. Of course, he isn't going to damage an asset, but he talked pretty specifically about finding a bridge to DJ being healthy. That isn't to say, if a special QB falls into their lap in the draft they won't take them. But didn't see any urgency in his manner.
The thing about not evaluating a QB solely from game tape was interesting coupled with his comments about the failure rate of high first-round QBs. The draft, as always, should be pretty interesting.
Of course they are looking at QBs. What they need to do is take BPA throughout the draft including the first few rounds, in case their QB choices are gone or they can't trade up, if they wanted to.
They aren't just blindly taking a quarterback no matter what. That would be stupid. And that is the same reason people got pissed off at the Jones pick.
RE: RE: I don't want to read too much into body language
team that is happy with its QB doesn't draft a QB in the first round because of "BPA."
They do so either because they want to replace the existing starter or that guy is nearing the end.
Now Schoen may be perfectly happy with Jones and wants to be deliberately vague. But I doubt it.
You are failing to recognize that taking a QB because you want to replace one doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do. If you take the 3rd or 4th "best" QB in the draft and pass on the 2nd WR or best edge player, that would be a bad decision.
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Schoen:
"Through trying times we found out a lot about people in the building."
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Wink.
Someone should tell Daboll.
He just added fuel to that fire.
Schoen said Daboll addressed it already in initial response. And then intimated he doesn't agree with reported media story.
He just said he would.
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Schoen:
"Through trying times we found out a lot about people in the building."
What does that mean...
That is a great answer from Schoen on the QB stuff.
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Joe Schoen on the punt return situation earlier this season: “That’s on me.”
Accountability is so refreshing
He chose not to.
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Not sure I got that.
The obvious thing he hit on is that Jones is injured right now and his status for next year is up in the air anyway.
He said very adamantly he will address QB this offseason. He is doing a good job of providing enough "grayness" that he is looking for his replacement vs. adding to the QB room.
I like that.
He did not say "we are definitely taking a quarterback in the 1st round of the draft."
What is so hard about this.
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Not sure I got that.
The obvious thing he hit on is that Jones is injured right now and his status for next year is up in the air anyway.
He literally said he expect him to be QB next year. Could be lying, but he said it.
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#NYGiants Schoen - there is a human and locker room element to making deals....it was a tough decision to trade williams....says every trade is different and you dont always get the player involved in the process like this one
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#NYGiants Schoen - says the staff has done a great job of sticking together and following the team's plan
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Schoen:
"We will get this thing going, trust the process, we have a lot of good people working on getting it better."
Correct - but again - why should this be news to anyone?
Schoen is going to take the best player available for the Giants at that draft slot.
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Joe Schoen said they have a lot of talented people in the building. "I believe the staff in there has stuck together" and understands the big picture.
He chose not to.
He said Wink wasn't going anywhere this season. Not sure where people get this stuff. Something like that.
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#NYGiants Schoen - must be prepared to maybe bring in a QB who can win a few games early if jones is not ready for wk 1 next year.....so much is still undetermined
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Not sure I got that.
The obvious thing he hit on is that Jones is injured right now and his status for next year is up in the air anyway.
He literally said he expect him to be QB next year. Could be lying, but he said it.
And that would be the case if they draft a kid in the top 2 rounds, right?
They're not handing the starting role to a rookie either way so for him to say that is not earth shattering.
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#Giants are not acting like Daniel Jones is definitely going to be ready for Week 1. Might need someone to get through a few weeks.
Smart.
That's a pretty easy thing to say if it's true.
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Joe Schoen indicates that #Giants ownership is on board with their plan. Important after all the 2-year cycle changes
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Schoen said there are no guarantees that Daniel Jones will be ready Week 1 in 2024 and they have to plan for that.
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Tommy DeVito signed a standard 3-year rookie contract when he was added to the active roster earlier this season, Joe Schoen confirmed. #NYGiants
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Schoen said there are no guarantees that Daniel Jones will be ready Week 1 in 2024 and they have to plan for that.
The smart and logical approach.
@DDuggan21
Biggest takeaway from Schoen: He said the “expectation” is that Daniel Jones will be the starting QB when he’s healthy. *However* Schoen pointed out that they need to add a QB this offseason based on the uncertain timeline of Jones’ ACL recovery. He didn’t rule out that being a QB in the draft.
Even in the first round? Schoen said they’ll take the “best player available.”
They are clearly looking at QBs.
They are clearly looking at QBs.
Of course.
Maybe just me, but I like his answers and tone.
The thing about not evaluating a QB solely from game tape was interesting coupled with his comments about the failure rate of high first-round QBs. The draft, as always, should be pretty interesting.
I saw the press conference. I saw no change in his body language.
They are clearly looking at QBs.
Drafting a qb early essentially resets the clock on Daboll / Schoen right? Ownership would have to give them time with another qb I’d think.
They do so either because they want to replace the existing starter or that guy is nearing the end.
Now Schoen may be perfectly happy with Jones and wants to be deliberately vague. But I doubt it.
They are clearly looking at QBs.
You are making this something that it is not.
Of course they are looking at QBs. What they need to do is take BPA throughout the draft including the first few rounds, in case their QB choices are gone or they can't trade up, if they wanted to.
They aren't just blindly taking a quarterback no matter what. That would be stupid. And that is the same reason people got pissed off at the Jones pick.
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but Schoen appeared uncomfortable talking about the Wink news. It certainly sounds like there's an issue.
I saw the press conference. I saw no change in his body language.
Agreed, no change.
While I think he may be acting kind of coy about not hearing about the Glazer report, he wasn't giving it any credibility.
It is odd.
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They are clearly looking at QBs.
Drafting a qb early essentially resets the clock on Daboll / Schoen right? Ownership would have to give them time with another qb I’d think.
That's my take. They have a built in excuse. Not with Jones.
They do so either because they want to replace the existing starter or that guy is nearing the end.
Now Schoen may be perfectly happy with Jones and wants to be deliberately vague. But I doubt it.
You are failing to recognize that taking a QB because you want to replace one doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do. If you take the 3rd or 4th "best" QB in the draft and pass on the 2nd WR or best edge player, that would be a bad decision.
It's not that difficult.
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but Schoen appeared uncomfortable talking about the Wink news. It certainly sounds like there's an issue.
I saw the press conference. I saw no change in his body language.
I heard his voice cracking, but everyone sees things differently. His non-commitment was the loudest statement regardless.
Obviously, any number of things can happen that results in a personnel change post-season.
Fans forget there are two audiences for these remarks, the market and ownership.
They must come out of this draft with a QB, either in the 1st round or 2nd.