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Those who say the Giants will draft a QB because Daboll/Scho

Eightshamrocks : 11/27/2023 12:59 pm
Want to save their jobs-you have it wrong. It's actually the opposite-they will roll it back with Jones AND a fixed O-line/ legit #1 receiver. If the Giants draft Jayden Daniels/ Bo Nix, etc., then you can get ready for a 3-14 season. Because if you draft a new QB, you are doing it at the expense of drafting to improve the line and recieving core/other areas of the team. A rookie playing behind this trash line will fail, guaranteed. And going 3-14 will get Daboll and Schoen fired under any circumstance. A rookie QB will not buy them an extra year. Fix the O-line, fix the reciving core, add LB depth, and D line. You do that, you have a chance at 10-7 or 11-6 if you avoid major injury. You know how Mara thinks-that is what he would want. Not to go 3-14 with an overwhelmed rookie.
Lol  
bwitz : 11/27/2023 1:00 pm : link
Ok
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool  
Mike from Ohio : 11/27/2023 1:00 pm : link
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Just going to put that here.
My favorite team has been hijacked by a personality cult.  
jinkies : 11/27/2023 1:08 pm : link
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Dave Gettleman had the same strategy back in 2021.  
ThomasG : 11/27/2023 1:10 pm : link
And then he wound up that offseason signing Kenny Golladay & Kyle Rudolph, and telling us the team is far more confident in the offensive line than fans and media members.

How'd that work out?

Jones off an ACL  
Lambuth_Special : 11/27/2023 1:10 pm : link
Against the Browns, Ravens, Steelers, Bengals plus Dallas and Philly 2X again.

Pencil in that 10-7!
Incorrect  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/27/2023 1:14 pm : link
It resets the clock for them.

Also, is there only 1 round in the draft? Did they cancel free agency?

They will get OL & Edge help in rounds 2-7 & FA.
RE: Dave Gettleman had the same strategy back in 2021.  
Eightshamrocks : 11/27/2023 1:14 pm : link
In comment 16304723 ThomasG said:
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And then he wound up that offseason signing Kenny Golladay & Kyle Rudolph, and telling us the team is far more confident in the offensive line than fans and media members.

How'd that work out?
Considering Kenny Golladay is the worst FA signing in the history of NY sports, how do you think?
Someone should tell the Texans  
ajr2456 : 11/27/2023 1:15 pm : link
Then, that you can’t make the playoffs with a rookie QB before it’s too late
RE: Someone should tell the Texans  
Eightshamrocks : 11/27/2023 1:21 pm : link
In comment 16304738 ajr2456 said:
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Then, that you can’t make the playoffs with a rookie QB before it’s too late
Yea, because Daniels, McCarthy and Nix are just as good as Stroud. And how about Young? Really tearing it up for the 1-10 Panthers.
All we heard last year was Stroud wasn’t good  
ajr2456 : 11/27/2023 1:24 pm : link
Because his guys were always open at Ohio State.

How do you know Daniels and McCarthy won’t be as good?
Definitely do not want to go 3-14  
lax counsel : 11/27/2023 1:26 pm : link
with an overwhelmed rookie. Would rather go 5-12 with an overwhelmed 6th year qb who misses at least 2 games!!
RE: Definitely do not want to go 3-14  
ajr2456 : 11/27/2023 1:31 pm : link
In comment 16304759 lax counsel said:
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with an overwhelmed rookie. Would rather go 5-12 with an overwhelmed 6th year qb who misses at least 2 games!!


The Giants have the 4th worst record in all of pro sports since 2019. Not the NFL, the four major sports. Why are people so afraid of being one or two games worse with a rookie QB
Definitely do not want to go 3-14  
lax counsel : 11/27/2023 1:32 pm : link
with an overwhelmed rookie. Would rather go 5-12 with an overwhelmed 6th year qb who misses at least 2 games!!
I'd rather watch a season...  
bw in dc : 11/27/2023 1:33 pm : link
with Jayden Daniels struggling and learning the ropes of the NFL than a sixth season of the Daniel Jones Experiment.

I find it so fascinating that the DJFC is convinced Jones will be better with a better supporting cost. There is nothing to suggest that other than rubbing a rabbit's foot hoping so...

This is a moot point.  
FStubbs : 11/27/2023 1:47 pm : link
We aren't getting a QB with 4 wins.
I'll tell you who has it wrong.....  
Joe in CT : 11/27/2023 2:03 pm : link
The folks who think Jones was a "forced" QB pick and now think the Giants are going to have a repeat performance. There are 4 or 5 QBs who should be better than DJ, which is how we should roll. Of course, the OL and WR room needs better depth and new starters, this can all happen during one off-season with more money available for FA and improved scouting for DL, OL, and a new QB prospect.
I've often said  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/27/2023 2:18 pm : link
If you draft a QB in the first round there are no more picks and you can't sddres any other position.
RE: I'll tell you who has it wrong.....  
Mike in NY : 11/27/2023 2:23 pm : link
In comment 16304841 Joe in CT said:
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The folks who think Jones was a "forced" QB pick and now think the Giants are going to have a repeat performance. There are 4 or 5 QBs who should be better than DJ, which is how we should roll. Of course, the OL and WR room needs better depth and new starters, this can all happen during one off-season with more money available for FA and improved scouting for DL, OL, and a new QB prospect.


I disagree that “should be better than DJ” is the appropriate measure. You use the first round pick to have the fifth year option. If none of the QB’s available you project to have the realistic upside of not wanting to tender a fifth year option wait until Day 2.
RE: RE: Dave Gettleman had the same strategy back in 2021.  
ThomasG : 11/27/2023 2:23 pm : link
In comment 16304736 Eightshamrocks said:
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In comment 16304723 ThomasG said:


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And then he wound up that offseason signing Kenny Golladay & Kyle Rudolph, and telling us the team is far more confident in the offensive line than fans and media members.

How'd that work out?


Considering Kenny Golladay is the worst FA signing in the history of NY sports, how do you think?


Guess what contract signing is a close second?
RE: My favorite team has been hijacked by a personality cult.  
ElitoCanton : 11/27/2023 2:25 pm : link
Exactly this. The Daniel Jones cult is deranged.

In comment 16304719 jinkies said:
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So if we stay the QB course  
SomeFan : 11/27/2023 2:35 pm : link
It is likely that we will have 2-3 more years of QB mediocrity.
Somewhere in the Jacksonville area  
Mike from Ohio : 11/27/2023 2:35 pm : link
Evan Engram is saying “I work hard and I am a nice guy. I even went to a Pro Bowl! Why didn’t I have a fan base in NY who believed in me despite repeated disappointment year after year?”

The number of fans who refuse to let reality slip into their wet dreams about Daniel Jones’ potential is just so hard to understand.
Oh you are absolutely right  
Jay on the Island : 11/27/2023 4:15 pm : link
It makes way more sense to rely on a QB coming off a terrible season, a second neck injury, and a torn ACL that might force him to miss the beginning of the season. Jones looked shell shocked dropping into the pocket and regressed back to where he was two seasons ago and you think they will trust Jones to play well and save heir jobs.

If they draft a QB they are destined for a 3-14 season? Tell that to Houston.
RE: Somewhere in the Jacksonville area  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/27/2023 4:15 pm : link
In comment 16304918 Mike from Ohio said:
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Evan Engram is saying “I work hard and I am a nice guy. I even went to a Pro Bowl! Why didn’t I have a fan base in NY who believed in me despite repeated disappointment year after year?”

The number of fans who refuse to let reality slip into their wet dreams about Daniel Jones’ potential is just so hard to understand.



As I've said before, it's a crock that people laud jones for being hardworking and a good person but can't wait to ship the other hardworking good guys out the door for non-performance.
And if they go  
Scooter185 : 11/27/2023 4:24 pm : link
3-14 with Jones starting?

Everyone's fired then too
Schoen knows what is up  
Andrew in Austin : 11/27/2023 5:17 pm : link
They took a shot on Jones based on last year where I think we all felt he took a step up in decision making. He played well and was a large chunk of our offense.

We all hoped he would continue improving. It looks like not only did he revert back, he got beat to hell which made him more gun-shy, and he is now 2 neck injuries and an ACL backwards.

Schoen has no choice but to invest in the QB position.
More importantly…..  
thrunthrublue : 11/28/2023 1:27 pm : link
Think of a top ‘24 draft pick qb as the backup to Jones who is now in the unreliable category, on top of that, his football/qb IQ is provably very incapable of quick reads, pre snap adjustments and throws that open up receivers. He has shown his ceiling which was on full display against the eagles in last year’s playoff, blowout loss. Jones is now a well paid journeyman backup….with no trade value. Thanks to DG.
Why doesn't anyone tell Hanlon that NYG's stupid sleeper cell  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/28/2023 1:33 pm : link
BBI accounts are useless and just antagonize the team's paying customers?
We can improve the OL without using a top 5 pick  
UConn4523 : 11/28/2023 1:34 pm : link
it’s actually how most OLs improve. Go look it up.
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