New CBS Mock: Giants take Jayden Daniels

I approve of this selection.

And Schoen and Daball know it

That would make watching the NYG fun again.

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Assuming that we don't pick in the top 5, Daniels is intriguing for sure.

but I'm wary of being unduly influenced by the "Even if he sucks, the games will be more fun to watch" factor.

I'd be happy with that.

players will go, and what each team will prioritize, probably worth noting it's from before this weekend, so doesn't account for the change in our expected draft position.

at #1 by April.

In comment 16304877 Chris in Philly said:

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at #1 by April.

Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me to be honest. And if we keep winning games, not sure we will be in a position to pick one of Williams, Mayre, OR Daniels with trading up.

But I think that is unlikely given the recent wins.

to a big deal and this mock has Latu going #1? NFW.

Not to say this wouldn't be typical Bears, but even they wouldn't be dumb enough to at least go Harrison...

As much as I love Daniels and would love the selection, I just can't see the Giants going for him. He's just not their - especially for Mara - prototype.

In comment 16304866 Eightshamrocks said:

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And Schoen and Daball know it

You are quite the mind-reader Shamrock.

Can you guess what I am thinking about your post?

But he can’t even spell his name. And it isn’t a typo. This same poster has been typing “Daball” for over a week now.

He’s a troll. If we ignore him long enough he will probably (Hopefully?) go away.

is highly contentious. It would work in our favour, but with two high picks, I don't really see it.
Take Harrison with #1, and see how the draft goes at #2 and #3. Latu could well be there at #4 or a QB that they might like.

In comment 16304866 Eightshamrocks said:

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And Schoen and Daball know it

Huh? That would be the HR of the draft.

In comment 16304913 bw in dc said:

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to a big deal and this mock has Latu going #1? NFW. Not to say this wouldn't be typical Bears, but even they wouldn't be dumb enough to at least go Harrison... As much as I love Daniels and would love the selection, I just can't see the Giants going for him. He's just not their - especially for Mara - prototype.

I don't see him being there at 5. If he is and we pick there, you couldn't get the card to the podium fast enough for me. Fuck Mara and fuck prototype.

The Bears are going to take a guy No. 1 whose college team refused to let him play for them again because of the severity or his neck injury? He was "retired". Then he change schools to find doctors who finally cleared him to play. People are worried about Jones' neck, but a guy who is hitting people with his head, neck and shoulders all the time isn't a massive risk? Maybe at 15. But not at 1. You can't take that risk at 1.

I would be fine with this.

In comment 16304866 Eightshamrocks said:

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And Schoen and Daball know it

Schoen and who?

To someone that wants a quarterback

That is all.

when he's their #8 QB.

smells like trolling NYG.

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I would be very excited to see what he can do with a fresh prospect.

There are worse places to be than have Jones start early, assuming he's healthy, and let the kid push him. If Jones falters, the kid plays. If Jones plays well, that means the Giants are winning and DJ is building up his value.

See what happens. This talk that the regime is or isn't going to pick a QB based on some manufactured myth that the clock gets reset or the expectations work for or against them loses sight of the fact that young QBs are expected to play well relatively soon, assuming other things are in place.

Let it play out.

In comment 16305129 djm said:

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I would be very excited to see what he can do with a fresh prospect. There are worse places to be than have Jones start early, assuming he's healthy, and let the kid push him. If Jones falters, the kid plays. If Jones plays well, that means the Giants are winning and DJ is building up his value. See what happens. This talk that the regime is or isn't going to pick a QB based on some manufactured myth that the clock gets reset or the expectations work for or against them loses sight of the fact that young QBs are expected to play well relatively soon, assuming other things are in place. Let it play out.

Jones?

highly unlikely, but if he is, would we take him? Does he fit the profile of a NY Giant QB and face of the franchise? As Schoen said, there’s more to just being a QB in NY, he’s got to also have a good head on his shoulders and by all reports I’m not so sure Williams does, at least emotionally. I could see the Giants moving back into the first round to grab their guy, if the one guy they like isn’t there at their top 10 first round pick.

Everyone take a deep breath!!!
BTW, QB’s are almost always overdrafted
Just go back to 2019….

In comment 16305154 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 16305129 djm said: Quote: I would be very excited to see what he can do with a fresh prospect. There are worse places to be than have Jones start early, assuming he's healthy, and let the kid push him. If Jones falters, the kid plays. If Jones plays well, that means the Giants are winning and DJ is building up his value. See what happens. This talk that the regime is or isn't going to pick a QB based on some manufactured myth that the clock gets reset or the expectations work for or against them loses sight of the fact that young QBs are expected to play well relatively soon, assuming other things are in place. Let it play out. Jones?

Cool.

point is if the Giants draft a kid this April in round 1 it may or may not buy them some time, but it's more contingent on how good the kid is, early on. If the kid bombs, even in year 1, Schoen and Daboll are in trouble. If they don't draft a kid this coming April and the team bombs, they are in trouble. We don't need to get into Jones' year 1-3 here anymore but Jones wasn't terrible in year 1. If you think he sucked fine he sucked. I don't care anymore.

In comment 16304866 Eightshamrocks said:

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And Schoen and Daball know it

Lmao! Clueless.

In comment 16305028 k2tampa said:

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The Bears are going to take a guy No. 1 whose college team refused to let him play for them again because of the severity or his neck injury? He was "retired". Then he change schools to find doctors who finally cleared him to play. People are worried about Jones' neck, but a guy who is hitting people with his head, neck and shoulders all the time isn't a massive risk? Maybe at 15. But not at 1. You can't take that risk at 1.

I wouldn't take that risk at #15. In fact, I would take him completely off the board. For his own good.

I think the Giants will like him better than some of the guys getting more publicity.

I'm just not sure if Daniels has the elite arm talent you need. Winning these games really screwed us.

Sanders is not entering this draft.

In comment 16305265 81_Great_Dane said:

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I think the Giants will like him better than some of the guys getting more publicity.

In comment 16305269 ElitoCanton said:

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I'm just not sure if Daniels has the elite arm talent you need. Winning these games really screwed us.

I'm not sure what you're seeing but he absolutely has a strong arm. In fact, I think it's stronger than Maye's.

Maye makes Josh Allen-type off platform throws every single game. That is but one factor in QB play. Daniels is further along overall probably. But his arm is not stronger.

In comment 16305270 ElitoCanton said:

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Sanders is not entering this draft. In comment 16305265 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: I think the Giants will like him better than some of the guys getting more publicity.

Well, that's that, then.

In comment 16305265 81_Great_Dane said:

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I think the Giants will like him better than some of the guys getting more publicity.

He's been discussed repeatedly here, especially on Saturdays.

Apparently, he has a back fracture now. He took an absolute beating this year behind an OL that made NYG's look like the Great Wall of China.

So, I think there is a good chance he stays with his dad and brother and returns for one last hurrah in Boulder.

In comment 16304913 bw in dc said:

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to a big deal and this mock has Latu going #1? NFW. Not to say this wouldn't be typical Bears, but even they wouldn't be dumb enough to at least go Harrison... As much as I love Daniels and would love the selection, I just can't see the Giants going for him. He's just not their - especially for Mara - prototype.

Mara Prototype??? If that’s the case this team doesn’t deserve to win… EVER.

In comment 16305604 SleepyOwl said:

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In comment 16304913 bw in dc said: Quote: to a big deal and this mock has Latu going #1? NFW. Not to say this wouldn't be typical Bears, but even they wouldn't be dumb enough to at least go Harrison... As much as I love Daniels and would love the selection, I just can't see the Giants going for him. He's just not their - especially for Mara - prototype. Mara Prototype??? If that’s the case this team doesn’t deserve to win… EVER.

It’s not true. It’s a made up thing.

In comment 16305610 Chris in Philly said:

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It’s not true. It’s a made up thing.

It's not. Ostensibly every person wearing the GM crown has said that NY is a very difficult place to play and that factors into the type of player they scout for the position.

In comment 16305643 bw in dc said:

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In comment 16305610 Chris in Philly said: Quote: It’s not true. It’s a made up thing. It's not. Ostensibly every person wearing the GM crown has said that NY is a very difficult place to play and that factors into the type of player they scout for the position.

Yes it takes a certain kind of personality to succeed in NY in any sport. Congrats on cracking that elusive code. So it’s not a Mara type, it’s also a Steinbrenner type and a Neil Smith type and a Glen Sather type and a Pat Riley type and a George Young Type.

In comment 16305648 Chris in Philly said:

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Yes it takes a certain kind of personality to succeed in NY in any sport. Congrats on cracking that elusive code. So it’s not a Mara type, it’s also a Steinbrenner type and a Neil Smith type and a Glen Sather type and a Pat Riley type and a George Young Type.

That's the manufactured myth: that it takes a certain kind of personality to succeed in NY.

You know what wins? Talent. Not some intangible variable that may or may not impact something.

In comment 16305664 bw in dc said:

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In comment 16305648 Chris in Philly said: Quote: Yes it takes a certain kind of personality to succeed in NY in any sport. Congrats on cracking that elusive code. So it’s not a Mara type, it’s also a Steinbrenner type and a Neil Smith type and a Glen Sather type and a Pat Riley type and a George Young Type. That's the manufactured myth: that it takes a certain kind of personality to succeed in NY. You know what wins? Talent. Not some intangible variable that may or may not impact something.

And you blame this belief, which has existed for a century, on John Mara. Makes sense.

In comment 16305320 ElitoCanton said:

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Maye makes Josh Allen-type off platform throws every single game. That is but one factor in QB play. Daniels is further along overall probably. But his arm is not stronger.

Daniels has the strongest arm and best release (by far Re release) in this draft. If you think daniels arm is not at least on par with Maye, you aren’t watching the games

His platform is everything. Any angle, any position.

This just isn't true. His arm strength is not on par with Maye. He throws a very nice deep ball. That is about touch and placement. He doesn't throw off platform like the top two guys.


In comment 16305678 NJBlueTuna said:

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In comment 16305320 ElitoCanton said: Quote: Maye makes Josh Allen-type off platform throws every single game. That is but one factor in QB play. Daniels is further along overall probably. But his arm is not stronger. Daniels has the strongest arm and best release (by far Re release) in this draft. If you think daniels arm is not at least on par with Maye, you aren’t watching the games

Then grab one of the young QBs. Roll with Fields until kid is ready and Trade Fields