I have someone close to me that has an extremely good track record of identifying NFL QBs to the point where I think they could scout professionally. They LOVE DeVito and don't think him turning into a legit NFL starter is out of the question.
In addition to what Sy says about him, his biggest plus with DeVito is that the team seems to rally behind him and play for him.
Most of these 3rd qb/project type guys who were transfers in college or played with lesser competition come in and you can immediately see the lack of confidence, fear or hesitation in their play. DeVito hasn't shown even a glimpse of that.
Maybe Dabes should of had him throw a couple of passes against the Jets?
To my untrained eye, needs to be weighed in the Bobby Johnson evaluation. They are getting better.
Given the discussion around X and his contract, worth reading Sy’s praise of his performance. I didn’t even see the trickery X used to lure the QB into throwing an INT, so thanks for educating me.
Finally, A’Shawn’s steady performance sure suggests he should be one of the vets resigned this offseason.
One very small, tiny quibble. I can't see Saquon Barkley adorned with one of your Dud awards. It seems like every time he rushed up the middle or to his left he was smashed at or behind the LOS. IMO, Justin Pugh is much more deserving.
on Daniel Jones. From all that I've read on this site, it's due to one of three reasons:
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
I have someone close to me that has an extremely good track record of identifying NFL QBs to the point where I think they could scout professionally. They LOVE DeVito and don't think him turning into a legit NFL starter is out of the question.
In addition to what Sy says about him, his biggest plus with DeVito is that the team seems to rally behind him and play for him.
DeVito appears to me to be the sort of player Parcells would back. The "Jersey Guy" moxie and not inconsiderable tools are tantalizing. If he can continue to progress in processing and reading Defenses, he looks like a keeper.
RE: The pendulum on BBI has swung way too negative
on Daniel Jones. From all that I've read on this site, it's due to one of three reasons:
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
Talent? Are we sure about that? I felt the word Go Terps used yesterday describing the NYG offense was perfect. "Remedial".... it worked because it kept things simple for Daniel. When he is asked to do more, he can't handle it.
I understand I keep harping on it, and it is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but Daniel Jones has a problem with the end zone. He can't seem to reach it. Scoring is kind of important to a QB. Dave Brown had the same problem.
RE: Sy’s comment about the OL improving, which was noticeable
To my untrained eye, needs to be weighed in the Bobby Johnson evaluation. They are getting better.
Given the discussion around X and his contract, worth reading Sy’s praise of his performance. I didn’t even see the trickery X used to lure the QB into throwing an INT, so thanks for educating me.
Finally, A’Shawn’s steady performance sure suggests he should be one of the vets resigned this offseason.
Yep. Every time the unit starts to gel there is a new regime to reset everything.
One very small, tiny quibble. I can't see Saquon Barkley adorned with one of your Dud awards. It seems like every time he rushed up the middle or to his left he was smashed at or behind the LOS. IMO, Justin Pugh is much more deserving.
has coincided with Evan Neal missing time. It is also around the same time frame that Andrew Thomas returned to the field.
Does the improvement have more to do with Neal not being there (was he bad enough to bring down the whole unit?) or is it more do to with Thomas returning?
I don't sound so stupid saying Jones may be the third best QB on his own team?
I love what DeVito is doing relative to what to expect from a third string QB. I'm rooting for him all the way. But, let's keep it in perspective. He benefitted from the Giants D producing 9 turnovers in the two games. And, despite them, the Giants nearly got tied by the Patriots (a missed easy FG) and were one Commanders' drive away from losing. It's not like the offense is running away with the games. Devito is throwing some nice balls and not turning the ball over. But, he's holding the ball way too long and taking a lot of sacks. Those sacks would show up a lot more if the Giants D wasn't producing the turnovers.
on Daniel Jones. From all that I've read on this site, it's due to one of three reasons:
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
Talent? Are we sure about that? I felt the word Go Terps used yesterday describing the NYG offense was perfect. "Remedial".... it worked because it kept things simple for Daniel. When he is asked to do more, he can't handle it.
I understand I keep harping on it, and it is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but Daniel Jones has a problem with the end zone. He can't seem to reach it. Scoring is kind of important to a QB. Dave Brown had the same problem.
Surely disconcerting about Daniel Jones lack of TD passes. It is what it is, and it ain't pretty. But it's also disconcerting that over his career Daniel Jones never had the opportunity to play with a bona-fide star like Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb, A.J. Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, Davonte Smith, Travis Kelce or Jordan Jefferson, et. al. In the end, Daniel Jones may be a mediocrity (or worse), but he never threw to top shelf talent and he never stood behind an offensive line worthy of NFL status.
The guy scores one TD that was assisted by one of the three turnovers the 2-win pats handed us in a game they were arguably hoping to lose. Sorry, the hype just isn't adding up.
RE: RE: RE: The pendulum on BBI has swung way too negative
on Daniel Jones. From all that I've read on this site, it's due to one of three reasons:
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
Talent? Are we sure about that? I felt the word Go Terps used yesterday describing the NYG offense was perfect. "Remedial".... it worked because it kept things simple for Daniel. When he is asked to do more, he can't handle it.
I understand I keep harping on it, and it is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but Daniel Jones has a problem with the end zone. He can't seem to reach it. Scoring is kind of important to a QB. Dave Brown had the same problem.
Surely disconcerting about Daniel Jones lack of TD passes. It is what it is, and it ain't pretty. But it's also disconcerting that over his career Daniel Jones never had the opportunity to play with a bona-fide star like Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb, A.J. Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, Davonte Smith, Travis Kelce or Jordan Jefferson, et. al. In the end, Daniel Jones may be a mediocrity (or worse), but he never threw to top shelf talent and he never stood behind an offensive line worthy of NFL status.
Neither has Cj Stroud. Or Jordan Love. Or Lamar Jackson.
DeVito is a great story. If he can really be the backup of the future
I don't sound so stupid saying Jones may be the third best QB on his own team?
The fact that it’s even a discussion highlights the overpay on Jones. I understand all the dynamics of last offseason but man….
What really sucks is drafting a qb this year won’t fully benefit the salary cap having a qb on a rookie deal cause we’ll have a backup (Jones) making 40mm+
Oh well
RE: RE: RE: The pendulum on BBI has swung way too negative
on Daniel Jones. From all that I've read on this site, it's due to one of three reasons:
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
Talent? Are we sure about that? I felt the word Go Terps used yesterday describing the NYG offense was perfect. "Remedial".... it worked because it kept things simple for Daniel. When he is asked to do more, he can't handle it.
I understand I keep harping on it, and it is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but Daniel Jones has a problem with the end zone. He can't seem to reach it. Scoring is kind of important to a QB. Dave Brown had the same problem.
Surely disconcerting about Daniel Jones lack of TD passes. It is what it is, and it ain't pretty. But it's also disconcerting that over his career Daniel Jones never had the opportunity to play with a bona-fide star like Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb, A.J. Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, Davonte Smith, Travis Kelce or Jordan Jefferson, et. al. In the end, Daniel Jones may be a mediocrity (or worse), but he never threw to top shelf talent and he never stood behind an offensive line worthy of NFL status.
JFC
He averages 1 TD pass a game over 62 game period. That is 1970s stats. Any other mediocre starter over a decent stretch of time you can google will typically average at least 1.5 TD pass a game.
Daniel Jones is an all-time great for supporters making excuses.
The guy scores one TD that was assisted by one of the three turnovers the 2-win pats handed us in a game they were arguably hoping to lose. Sorry, the hype just isn't adding up.
Yep. I like DeVito, as I am a Syracuse fan and watched much of his play over the years. He has exceeded expectations for an UDFA 3rd string QB, but the hype has gotten out of control. He scored 1 TD against one of the worst teams in football, in which they started inside the opponent's 30 yard line. The hope is he can be a cheap, competent backup QB going forward. Anyone expecting more than that is delusional.
I know Barkley is a good player and all but I am ready for him to move on to a different team so we can restart the offense.
If you really break it down.
QB - we need a new one. It's not about Jones anymore. I dont care if he can, cant, we failed him, he failed us..... It's over. Move on. Let him backup next year. Teach the new QB the Giant way for all I care.
WR - We need a true number 1 WR for whoever the new QB is. I know Bryce Young has been awful - but you cant draft a QB and give him nothing to work with. And for the people say we dont know what we have at WR. yes we do. They're average to below average WRs who make a play once every 3-4 games. Its not good enough.
TE - Always hurt. Already over 30. Move on.
OL - we need some guards. We need to hope that Neal is finally healthy for a whole offseason and can quickly become a serviceable tackle. And for christ sakes get a good OL coach.
So many pieces missing. Get the QB. Whether its with the first round pick or trading back into the first. Find a WR. And lets get back to modern day football.
What we are saying is there is no discernible difference between him and the $140 million dollar man.
The argument isn't that the Giants have found a starting QB. It's the Giants don't have a starting quarterback.
Big difference.
Go re-read the review on Devito's game. This post is not at all aligned with what was written. It was a glowing review for a kid in a game which the results were one TD on a short field created by the defense, sub 200 yards passing, where we scored tied for the lowest point output scored against the Pats all year. It was an ugly ugly win against a terrible team where the defense and specials played well but not nearly enough done on the offensive side.
I can't reconcile my interpretation of the game with Sy's glowing review.
I’m not sure you entirely got my point. Daniel Jones is what he is for better or worse.
But ask yourself: How well did Eli Manning perform toward the end of his career with a non-existent O-line and no top-shelf wide receiver.
In the end, it is a lot easier for fans to just piss on Daniel Jones than to fully catalogue the utter stench of the franchise he has been a part of since 2019.
Saying a QB played the position fundamentally well FOR AN UNDRAFTED ROOKIE does not mean Sy is hyping him as a starter in the NFL. In fact, Sy goes onto talk about the need to see if DeVito can be an adequate back-up.
What we are saying is there is no discernible difference between him and the $140 million dollar man.
The argument isn't that the Giants have found a starting QB. It's the Giants don't have a starting quarterback.
Big difference.
Go re-read the review on Devito's game. This post is not at all aligned with what was written. It was a glowing review for a kid in a game which the results were one TD on a short field created by the defense, sub 200 yards passing, where we scored tied for the lowest point output scored against the Pats all year. It was an ugly ugly win against a terrible team where the defense and specials played well but not nearly enough done on the offensive side.
I can't reconcile my interpretation of the game with Sy's glowing review.
How about a glowing review for an UNDRAFTED ROOKIE on a bad team with a bad offense?
Point to history where this has ever happened.
I also note multiple times DeVito is trying out for a backup job. Hardly over the top.
But ask yourself: How well did Eli Manning perform toward the end of his career with a non-existent O-line and no top-shelf wide receiver.
In the end, it is a lot easier for fans to just piss on Daniel Jones than to fully catalogue the utter stench of the franchise he has been a part of since 2019.
What we are saying is there is no discernible difference between him and the $140 million dollar man.
The argument isn't that the Giants have found a starting QB. It's the Giants don't have a starting quarterback.
Big difference.
Go re-read the review on Devito's game. This post is not at all aligned with what was written. It was a glowing review for a kid in a game which the results were one TD on a short field created by the defense, sub 200 yards passing, where we scored tied for the lowest point output scored against the Pats all year. It was an ugly ugly win against a terrible team where the defense and specials played well but not nearly enough done on the offensive side.
I can't reconcile my interpretation of the game with Sy's glowing review.
How about a glowing review for an UNDRAFTED ROOKIE on a bad team with a bad offense?
Point to history where this has ever happened.
I also note multiple times DeVito is trying out for a backup job. Hardly over the top.
Lol...DeVito's total QBR is 7.4. Time to size him up for the Yellow Jacket.
I’m not sure you entirely got my point. Daniel Jones is what he is for better or worse.
But ask yourself: How well did Eli Manning perform toward the end of his career with a non-existent O-line and no top-shelf wide receiver.
In the end, it is a lot easier for fans to just piss on Daniel Jones than to fully catalogue the utter stench of the franchise he has been a part of since 2019.
You don't need to have a "top-shelf" wide receiver to be successful in the NFL as a quarterback. An offensive line will be a tremendous help.
Piss on Daniel Jones? It's been five years. An undrafted rookie FA has seven TDs to Daniel's two in half the snaps.
Jones has thrown 38 TDs in four years. Do the math.
I have someone close to me that has an extremely good track record of identifying NFL QBs to the point where I think they could scout professionally. They LOVE DeVito and don't think him turning into a legit NFL starter is out of the question.
In addition to what Sy says about him, his biggest plus with DeVito is that the team seems to rally behind him and play for him.
Whatever "it" is, he has "it".
Most of these 3rd qb/project type guys who were transfers in college or played with lesser competition come in and you can immediately see the lack of confidence, fear or hesitation in their play. DeVito hasn't shown even a glimpse of that.
Maybe Dabes should of had him throw a couple of passes against the Jets?
No. You’re right.
Given the discussion around X and his contract, worth reading Sy’s praise of his performance. I didn’t even see the trickery X used to lure the QB into throwing an INT, so thanks for educating me.
Finally, A’Shawn’s steady performance sure suggests he should be one of the vets resigned this offseason.
You don’t really think Taylor is better than DJ do you?
I know you said “may” and that’s a bit of a disclaimer but was that just taking a shot at DJ or do you honestly think Taylor is better?
very informative / enjoyable read!
One very small, tiny quibble. I can't see Saquon Barkley adorned with one of your Dud awards. It seems like every time he rushed up the middle or to his left he was smashed at or behind the LOS. IMO, Justin Pugh is much more deserving.
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I don't sound so stupid saying Jones may be the third best QB on his own team?
You don’t really think Taylor is better than DJ do you?
I know you said “may” and that’s a bit of a disclaimer but was that just taking a shot at DJ or do you honestly think Taylor is better?
It's not clear to me. I wouldn't want either as my starter.
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I don't sound so stupid saying Jones may be the third best QB on his own team?
You don’t really think Taylor is better than DJ do you?
I know you said “may” and that’s a bit of a disclaimer but was that just taking a shot at DJ or do you honestly think Taylor is better?
It's not clear to me. I wouldn't want either as my starter.
Fair enough.
I also would not be surprised to see Daboll go back to Taylor.
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
The entire Giants squad will look like a train wreck with DeVito serving as one of the front cars.
You still could, we haven’t seen Barkley yet
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I have someone close to me that has an extremely good track record of identifying NFL QBs to the point where I think they could scout professionally. They LOVE DeVito and don't think him turning into a legit NFL starter is out of the question.
In addition to what Sy says about him, his biggest plus with DeVito is that the team seems to rally behind him and play for him.
DeVito appears to me to be the sort of player Parcells would back. The "Jersey Guy" moxie and not inconsiderable tools are tantalizing. If he can continue to progress in processing and reading Defenses, he looks like a keeper.
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
Talent? Are we sure about that? I felt the word Go Terps used yesterday describing the NYG offense was perfect. "Remedial".... it worked because it kept things simple for Daniel. When he is asked to do more, he can't handle it.
I understand I keep harping on it, and it is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but Daniel Jones has a problem with the end zone. He can't seem to reach it. Scoring is kind of important to a QB. Dave Brown had the same problem.
Given the discussion around X and his contract, worth reading Sy’s praise of his performance. I didn’t even see the trickery X used to lure the QB into throwing an INT, so thanks for educating me.
Finally, A’Shawn’s steady performance sure suggests he should be one of the vets resigned this offseason.
Yep. Every time the unit starts to gel there is a new regime to reset everything.
very informative / enjoyable read!
One very small, tiny quibble. I can't see Saquon Barkley adorned with one of your Dud awards. It seems like every time he rushed up the middle or to his left he was smashed at or behind the LOS. IMO, Justin Pugh is much more deserving.
Yes why isn't Pugh a DUD? In fact he is the DUD
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I will be shocked if DeVito doesn't look like a train wreck against the Eagles.
I also would not be surprised to see Daboll go back to Taylor.
Taylor will just get hurt again, so Devito will get to play.
Does the improvement have more to do with Neal not being there (was he bad enough to bring down the whole unit?) or is it more do to with Thomas returning?
I love what DeVito is doing relative to what to expect from a third string QB. I'm rooting for him all the way. But, let's keep it in perspective. He benefitted from the Giants D producing 9 turnovers in the two games. And, despite them, the Giants nearly got tied by the Patriots (a missed easy FG) and were one Commanders' drive away from losing. It's not like the offense is running away with the games. Devito is throwing some nice balls and not turning the ball over. But, he's holding the ball way too long and taking a lot of sacks. Those sacks would show up a lot more if the Giants D wasn't producing the turnovers.
Funny how having Barkley playing helps an offense, not to mention a top level LT
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on Daniel Jones. From all that I've read on this site, it's due to one of three reasons:
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
Talent? Are we sure about that? I felt the word Go Terps used yesterday describing the NYG offense was perfect. "Remedial".... it worked because it kept things simple for Daniel. When he is asked to do more, he can't handle it.
I understand I keep harping on it, and it is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but Daniel Jones has a problem with the end zone. He can't seem to reach it. Scoring is kind of important to a QB. Dave Brown had the same problem.
Surely disconcerting about Daniel Jones lack of TD passes. It is what it is, and it ain't pretty. But it's also disconcerting that over his career Daniel Jones never had the opportunity to play with a bona-fide star like Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb, A.J. Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, Davonte Smith, Travis Kelce or Jordan Jefferson, et. al. In the end, Daniel Jones may be a mediocrity (or worse), but he never threw to top shelf talent and he never stood behind an offensive line worthy of NFL status.
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on Daniel Jones. From all that I've read on this site, it's due to one of three reasons:
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
Talent? Are we sure about that? I felt the word Go Terps used yesterday describing the NYG offense was perfect. "Remedial".... it worked because it kept things simple for Daniel. When he is asked to do more, he can't handle it.
I understand I keep harping on it, and it is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but Daniel Jones has a problem with the end zone. He can't seem to reach it. Scoring is kind of important to a QB. Dave Brown had the same problem.
Surely disconcerting about Daniel Jones lack of TD passes. It is what it is, and it ain't pretty. But it's also disconcerting that over his career Daniel Jones never had the opportunity to play with a bona-fide star like Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb, A.J. Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, Davonte Smith, Travis Kelce or Jordan Jefferson, et. al. In the end, Daniel Jones may be a mediocrity (or worse), but he never threw to top shelf talent and he never stood behind an offensive line worthy of NFL status.
Neither has Cj Stroud. Or Jordan Love. Or Lamar Jackson.
The fact that it’s even a discussion highlights the overpay on Jones. I understand all the dynamics of last offseason but man….
What really sucks is drafting a qb this year won’t fully benefit the salary cap having a qb on a rookie deal cause we’ll have a backup (Jones) making 40mm+
Oh well
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on Daniel Jones. From all that I've read on this site, it's due to one of three reasons:
(1) Injuries
(2) Talent
(3) Injuries & Talent
I understand the issue over injuries (and I wish this young man would just retire for his own personal health), but it seems that his "talent" has been denigrated far beyond what he deserves, and I say that knowing full well what his limitations are.
Talent? Are we sure about that? I felt the word Go Terps used yesterday describing the NYG offense was perfect. "Remedial".... it worked because it kept things simple for Daniel. When he is asked to do more, he can't handle it.
I understand I keep harping on it, and it is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but Daniel Jones has a problem with the end zone. He can't seem to reach it. Scoring is kind of important to a QB. Dave Brown had the same problem.
Surely disconcerting about Daniel Jones lack of TD passes. It is what it is, and it ain't pretty. But it's also disconcerting that over his career Daniel Jones never had the opportunity to play with a bona-fide star like Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb, A.J. Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, Davonte Smith, Travis Kelce or Jordan Jefferson, et. al. In the end, Daniel Jones may be a mediocrity (or worse), but he never threw to top shelf talent and he never stood behind an offensive line worthy of NFL status.
JFC
He averages 1 TD pass a game over 62 game period. That is 1970s stats. Any other mediocre starter over a decent stretch of time you can google will typically average at least 1.5 TD pass a game.
Daniel Jones is an all-time great for supporters making excuses.
Yep. I like DeVito, as I am a Syracuse fan and watched much of his play over the years. He has exceeded expectations for an UDFA 3rd string QB, but the hype has gotten out of control. He scored 1 TD against one of the worst teams in football, in which they started inside the opponent's 30 yard line. The hope is he can be a cheap, competent backup QB going forward. Anyone expecting more than that is delusional.
However, DeVito is not turning the ball over despite getting sacked 15 times in two games. He's also throwing TD passes.
No one is claiming DeVito is the answer.
What we are saying is there is no discernible difference between him and the $140 million dollar man.
The argument isn't that the Giants have found a starting QB. It's the Giants don't have a starting quarterback.
Big difference.
However, DeVito is not turning the ball over despite getting sacked 15 times in two games. He's also throwing TD passes.
And, he's also threatening defenses vertically down the field.
If you really break it down.
QB - we need a new one. It's not about Jones anymore. I dont care if he can, cant, we failed him, he failed us..... It's over. Move on. Let him backup next year. Teach the new QB the Giant way for all I care.
WR - We need a true number 1 WR for whoever the new QB is. I know Bryce Young has been awful - but you cant draft a QB and give him nothing to work with. And for the people say we dont know what we have at WR. yes we do. They're average to below average WRs who make a play once every 3-4 games. Its not good enough.
TE - Always hurt. Already over 30. Move on.
OL - we need some guards. We need to hope that Neal is finally healthy for a whole offseason and can quickly become a serviceable tackle. And for christ sakes get a good OL coach.
So many pieces missing. Get the QB. Whether its with the first round pick or trading back into the first. Find a WR. And lets get back to modern day football.
No one is claiming DeVito is the answer.
What we are saying is there is no discernible difference between him and the $140 million dollar man.
The argument isn't that the Giants have found a starting QB. It's the Giants don't have a starting quarterback.
Big difference.
I KNOW Jones can win in this league.
I SAW it.
There is nothing anyone can say that can change history.
He is done here and I expect his career to end soon.
He will get to start 2024 if healthy no matter who we draft.
I suspect he know he has to be. So,he will be.
I don't feel sorry for him because of the compensation.
The hand Jones was dealt by NYG leaves much to desire.
Is what it is.
Burried in this.
Sorry Terps, you havecevery right to repeat your opinions.
I got personal.
I was wrong.
No one is claiming DeVito is the answer.
What we are saying is there is no discernible difference between him and the $140 million dollar man.
The argument isn't that the Giants have found a starting QB. It's the Giants don't have a starting quarterback.
Big difference.
I can't reconcile my interpretation of the game with Sy's glowing review.
But ask yourself: How well did Eli Manning perform toward the end of his career with a non-existent O-line and no top-shelf wide receiver.
In the end, it is a lot easier for fans to just piss on Daniel Jones than to fully catalogue the utter stench of the franchise he has been a part of since 2019.
Saying a QB played the position fundamentally well FOR AN UNDRAFTED ROOKIE does not mean Sy is hyping him as a starter in the NFL. In fact, Sy goes onto talk about the need to see if DeVito can be an adequate back-up.
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claiming "hype" are not getting it.
No one is claiming DeVito is the answer.
What we are saying is there is no discernible difference between him and the $140 million dollar man.
The argument isn't that the Giants have found a starting QB. It's the Giants don't have a starting quarterback.
Big difference.
Go re-read the review on Devito's game. This post is not at all aligned with what was written. It was a glowing review for a kid in a game which the results were one TD on a short field created by the defense, sub 200 yards passing, where we scored tied for the lowest point output scored against the Pats all year. It was an ugly ugly win against a terrible team where the defense and specials played well but not nearly enough done on the offensive side.
I can't reconcile my interpretation of the game with Sy's glowing review.
How about a glowing review for an UNDRAFTED ROOKIE on a bad team with a bad offense?
Point to history where this has ever happened.
I also note multiple times DeVito is trying out for a backup job. Hardly over the top.
But ask yourself: How well did Eli Manning perform toward the end of his career with a non-existent O-line and no top-shelf wide receiver.
In the end, it is a lot easier for fans to just piss on Daniel Jones than to fully catalogue the utter stench of the franchise he has been a part of since 2019.
Eli had Odell.
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In comment 16305987 Eric from BBI said:
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claiming "hype" are not getting it.
No one is claiming DeVito is the answer.
What we are saying is there is no discernible difference between him and the $140 million dollar man.
The argument isn't that the Giants have found a starting QB. It's the Giants don't have a starting quarterback.
Big difference.
Go re-read the review on Devito's game. This post is not at all aligned with what was written. It was a glowing review for a kid in a game which the results were one TD on a short field created by the defense, sub 200 yards passing, where we scored tied for the lowest point output scored against the Pats all year. It was an ugly ugly win against a terrible team where the defense and specials played well but not nearly enough done on the offensive side.
I can't reconcile my interpretation of the game with Sy's glowing review.
How about a glowing review for an UNDRAFTED ROOKIE on a bad team with a bad offense?
Point to history where this has ever happened.
I also note multiple times DeVito is trying out for a backup job. Hardly over the top.
Lol...DeVito's total QBR is 7.4. Time to size him up for the Yellow Jacket.
But ask yourself: How well did Eli Manning perform toward the end of his career with a non-existent O-line and no top-shelf wide receiver.
In the end, it is a lot easier for fans to just piss on Daniel Jones than to fully catalogue the utter stench of the franchise he has been a part of since 2019.
You don't need to have a "top-shelf" wide receiver to be successful in the NFL as a quarterback. An offensive line will be a tremendous help.
Piss on Daniel Jones? It's been five years. An undrafted rookie FA has seven TDs to Daniel's two in half the snaps.
Jones has thrown 38 TDs in four years. Do the math.
We're in a weird area with a group of Giants fans.