For the first time.
He is one of twenty five semi finalists. The next round gets cut to 15, then the class is announced in February.
I’m not sure Tiki will ever actually get in, but it’s nice to see him recognized.
He has a complicated history with the Giants, but he’s probably the best running back I’ve ever seen on this team in my lifetime.
Barber was a devastating player in those 5 or 6 years. He dominated games.
IMO, he would have been a shoe in with one or two more years with close to what he was doing(and with the 2007 and 2008 teams he would have likley kept his output) and likely would have meant Bradshaw was not drafted by the Giants.
Tiki had blow ups with Strahan and Eli, yes. Should have no reflection on his eligibility.
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Tiki did not. That definitely matters, and is why our boy Eli will be in. TD went ape shit in those SB years.
So because Jerome Bettis has a ring from a Super Bowl that is the gold standard for awful officiating, which allowed the Steelers to win a title despite being outplayed, and he ran for all of 43 yards on 14 carries....that gets him over the hump?
No but in comparison to Tiki he has a better case because of that; I do think it matters. I don't really care about Jerome Bettis at all. I probably wouldn't put him in the HoF but this isn't the baseball Hall of Fame, they're letting a lot of people in.
I feel like Im being inconsistent saying 4 great years isnt enough for Tiki but O think you can argue TD. He was absolutely dominant in 96 and 97, and I'm pretty sure he set some scoring records. Plus he powered them to back to back Super Bowls, a feat only accomplished 8 times, and only once since 97.
He was a great all-around RB.
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Tiki did not. That definitely matters, and is why our boy Eli will be in. TD went ape shit in those SB years.
I feel like Im being inconsistent saying 4 great years isnt enough for Tiki but O think you can argue TD. He was absolutely dominant in 96 and 97, and I'm pretty sure he set some scoring records. Plus he powered them to back to back Super Bowls, a feat only accomplished 8 times, and only once since 97.
They're all very borderline, and I think the SBs might be what differentiates them and sways the voters. Whether that's right or wrong, I dunno.
When they asked Drew Brees whether Eli should be a Hall of Famer, he said something along the lines of yes because "you can't tell the story of the NFL without discussing Eli Manning." Terrel Davis definitely passes that test. Bettis probably does. I would say Tiki doesn't but I know I'm going to get yelled at. (I really don't care that much, and I know some of you guys love Tiki.)
He was a great all-around RB.
Of course. I'm looking at that as well and still only see 4 truly great seasons. Ego, conflict, and the lure of a career in television pulled him away before he could really cement his status.
Tiki Barber is the best RB in Giants history, and the only reason he's not a Hall of Fame RB is because he chose to not be.
Bettis, again, I don’t get him being in, but Tiki isn’t. Barber was the better back.
Bettis, again, I don’t get him being in, but Tiki isn’t. Barber was the better back.
Tiki was just as good a runner as TD, had longevity, a huge receiving edge and excellent punt returning skills. He was the better football player and had a better career and it shouldn’t be debatable.
And he was such a great pass blocker. He would attack a blitzer.
This. While he was a great pass catcher and a fantastic running back (who almost never got injured) it was his blocking that really made him special. Saquon (who I'm also a huge fan of) should take note. As they say, blocking is all about desire. Tiki never shied away from pass rushers. Would love to see him get HOF recognition. He single-handily got us into the playoffs in at least two of his years. Wish he had a SB ring too.
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are about comparable arguments for getting in.
I bet Tony Romo gets in because the love fest for all things Cowboys still exists.
I will take that bet (Romo) --he aint getting in.
The only way Tony Romo gets in the HOF is if he buys a ticket
some eye-opening stats lonk - ( New Window )
That's an impressive and I would say convincing list of reasons.
I know some people think he retired too soon, didn't compile enough stats and some hold his early years against him.
Terrell Davis is in based on 4 great yrs and a SB. Tiki doesn't have the SB, but his last 7 yrs compare favorably to T.D.'s entire 7 yr career.
Unfortunately, a lot of the voting is subjective. I kind of doubt he's going to make it this yr, but maybe sometime in the future.
I think the devaluing of RBs and shorter prime years (compared to the past), might help Tiki in the future, bc his stats will look more impressive as time goes by.
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Tiki did not. That definitely matters, and is why our boy Eli will be in. TD went ape shit in those SB years.
So because Jerome Bettis has a ring from a Super Bowl that is the gold standard for awful officiating, which allowed the Steelers to win a title despite being outplayed, and he ran for all of 43 yards on 14 carries....that gets him over the hump?
Some might say rigged officiating.
If people say that Bettis (and Terrell Davis) don't deserve to be in, that's one thing. But to say that Bettis does because of that game, that's silly.
That being said, if he didn't burn almost every bridge possible with the giants in 07 he would probably be in the HOF right now.
I don't even remember the last time I saw someone wearing a Tiki jersey at a game.
I vividly remember when I met one of my college friends at the bar and he said he was a Giants fan, I asked him who his favorite Giants player ever was, he said Tiki and not going to lie I kind of openly scoffed at him lol.
It goes to show you how yes, Tiki is the greatest Giants RB ever but also nobody openly cares for him
I agree though - I can't help but love him and what he did for the team when he was in uniform. And he was an amazing athlete. Literally like if Rhonde was fashioned to be a RB. And he played in a time back when workhorse, every-down RBs were a big deal and a dime a dozen.
I remember how drunk/hungover he was when he got interviewed in the wake of Superbowl 42 - I can't even imagine what kind of emotions he must have been going throw (and probably suppressing) - poor dude.
Eli has to get in before Tiki though. Right?