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Who is WR2 in this draft?

Everyone Relax : 11/28/2023 10:24 am
MHJ seems to be a lock for WR1 in the draft. I don't see a big drop off between him and the next crop. This draft seems to have incredible talent at WR. I love Odunze, Naber and Coleman, but curious who the pundits see as #2.

People will have differing opinions  
Anakim : 11/28/2023 10:30 am : link
Nabers is on the shorter end compared to Coleman, Odunze and his teammate Brian Thomas Jr., but boy is he explosive and what body control! He's also lethal with the ball in his hands. Just a YAC beast. He doesn't have the most reliable hands, but if you can overlook the occasional drop, he's a special talent. He's going to get the Biletnikoff, methinks.

Coleman, Odunze and Thomas are H/W/S freaks. They're bigger and stronger than Nabers and who can 50-50 balls into 70-30 balls.




So pick your flavor.
Nabers IMO  
KDavies : 11/28/2023 10:39 am : link
and I've watched a decent bit of LSU. Reminds me a lot of another LSU WR, OBJ
after the combine  
Dave on the UWS : 11/28/2023 10:43 am : link
I think Odunze, and he will go top 10.
I want the guy who is always open and any QB can connect with  
Ivan15 : 11/28/2023 10:49 am : link
I shy away from the player whose best skill is being able to win 50-50 balls because you need a QB who will throw it to him when he is covered.

OBJ would be fine with me.
Coleman is a 6’-4” Odell Beckham  
rasbutant : 11/28/2023 10:50 am : link
But I think I still like Nabers more. But Coleman is fun to watch.

There is a lot to like at wr in this draft. Even Polk who it first glance I though was speedy slot type, he is listed at 6’3.
I think there is a pretty big drop off between  
barens : 11/28/2023 10:50 am : link
MHJ and the rest, and that's not to take anything away from anyone else. I just think Harrison Jr is a force, and there won't be a corner who will be able to lock him down.
Thomas...  
bw in dc : 11/28/2023 10:50 am : link
is in the running for me. He and Nabors are dynamite.

I am very fond of Ja'Lynn Polk and JM Sturdivant. Sturdivant is very interesting as a prospect who is basically playing with an incompetent group of QBs at UCLA. He is big, fast and explosive.
Coleman and Odunze imv  
Rick in Dallas : 11/28/2023 10:55 am : link
2A and 2B behind Harrison
Freakish athletes
RE: People will have differing opinions  
Anakim : 11/28/2023 10:58 am : link
In comment 16305912 Anakim said:
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Nabers is on the shorter end compared to Coleman, Odunze and his teammate Brian Thomas Jr., but boy is he explosive and what body control! He's also lethal with the ball in his hands. Just a YAC beast. He doesn't have the most reliable hands, but if you can overlook the occasional drop, he's a special talent. He's going to get the Biletnikoff, methinks.

Coleman, Odunze and Thomas are H/W/S freaks. They're bigger and stronger than Nabers and who can 50-50 balls into 70-30 balls.




So pick your flavor.


*turn
Odunze and Sturdivant are two I've mentioned the past two seasons  
JonC : 11/28/2023 11:01 am : link
Odunze and Coleman are two to watch early in the draft, but it's still really early to think definitively.
Leggette  
JT039 : 11/28/2023 11:02 am : link
may not be number 2. But he should be on our radar.
Malik Nabers  
M.S. : 11/28/2023 11:07 am : link

Is a mean motor-scooter and a bad go-getter.

So is Rome Odunze.

I'll take either one. Gladly.
Nabers  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/28/2023 11:08 am : link
That kid is a STUD.
RE: Leggette  
Anakim : 11/28/2023 11:08 am : link
In comment 16305973 JT039 said:
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may not be number 2. But he should be on our radar.


Xavier Legette. Fan of him as well. He struggled against Tennessee, but he's been awesome all year with Rattler.
RE: I think there is a pretty big drop off between  
Eman11 : 11/28/2023 11:09 am : link
In comment 16305954 barens said:
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MHJ and the rest, and that's not to take anything away from anyone else. I just think Harrison Jr is a force, and there won't be a corner who will be able to lock him down.


Agree 100%.

I think he’s the most can’t miss prospect in this draft, and the other WR’s a tier below him.
O’Dunze, Coleman, Nabers  
RAIN : 11/28/2023 11:18 am : link
I think will slot out based on what flavors a team prefers.

They all are WR1 in past two drafts. This is a serious WR draft.
Nabers, by a sizable margin  
Breeze_94 : 11/28/2023 12:02 pm : link
He’d be WR1 most other years. He’s good at everything - before the catch, at the catch, and after the catch. Explosive, athletic and strong. And only 20 years old - he’s been incredibly productive from the onset.

I like Odunze as WR3, Coleman as WR4. Some people are waaay too high on Coleman. Great traits, but iffy production and often disappears. I might even like Troy Franklin, AD Mitchell and Brian Thomas over him.

Egbuka/Worthy/Roman Wilson are also good prospects.

This WR class is LOADED
RE: Nabers, by a sizable margin  
bw in dc : 11/28/2023 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16306062 Breeze_94 said:
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I might even like Troy Franklin, AD Mitchell and Brian Thomas over him.


I can't believe I forgot about Franklin. Very good call. He's been very impressive for Oregon.
Nabers is the most impressive prospect I have seen.  
ThomasG : 11/28/2023 12:16 pm : link
He can really give opposing CBs fits with his extensive skill set, including contested catches for a guy not that tall.

Coleman and Franklin are probably in the next rung.
RE: Nabers is the most impressive prospect I have seen.  
bw in dc : 11/28/2023 12:23 pm : link
In comment 16306082 ThomasG said:
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He can really give opposing CBs fits with his extensive skill set, including contested catches for a guy not that tall.

Coleman and Franklin are probably in the next rung.


Thomas Jr is great. He's going very high. GMs see the size, speed, catch radius.
WR 2  
Cheech d : 11/28/2023 12:24 pm : link
I’d favor Nabors but it’s ten deep behind Harrison.
RE: WR 2  
Cheech d : 11/28/2023 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16306092 Cheech d said:
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I’d favor Nabors but it’s ten deep behind Harrison.

Sorry Nabers
Nabers per Matt Waldman  
BigTymer : 11/28/2023 12:27 pm : link
Matt Waldman does a lot of analysis for Footballguys.com as well as a lot of content related to the draft. Won't paste everything he's written on this topic but right now he actually has Nabers over MHJ fwiw.

Few snipits:

"Nabers some of the best skills in this class against press coverage. He not only has a large repertoire of moves, but he also executes them with a balance of patience and suddenness that forces defenders off-balance or in the wrong direction."

"In contrast to what I've seen from Harrison, Nabers is more precise with his breaks and executes a greater variety of break types at a high level of accuracy and form. Nabers has no significant lapses as a pass catcher and wins difficult targets against tight coverage and hard contact."

Very early in the draft coverage process and so a lot will change from here thru Pro Days / Combine but this seems to be a very good WR draft.
I know you said aside from MHJ  
mittenedman : 11/28/2023 12:31 pm : link
but holy sh#t, this guy is so good. He's a gap-closer for the Giants. Not just a #1 - an elite #1.

I know the prevailing wisdom is accumulate picks to rebuild, but the Eagles & Cowboys are loaded with great football players. You've got to have front-line talent to beat them, too.

This team - especially offensively - is lacking star power. MHJ is worth trading up for, even in this loaded class IMO. If they could somehow land him and Nix or another mid-1st round QB, it would be amazing.
RE: Nabers, by a sizable margin  
allstarjim : 11/28/2023 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16306062 Breeze_94 said:
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He’d be WR1 most other years. He’s good at everything - before the catch, at the catch, and after the catch. Explosive, athletic and strong. And only 20 years old - he’s been incredibly productive from the onset.

I like Odunze as WR3, Coleman as WR4. Some people are waaay too high on Coleman. Great traits, but iffy production and often disappears. I might even like Troy Franklin, AD Mitchell and Brian Thomas over him.

Egbuka/Worthy/Roman Wilson are also good prospects.

This WR class is LOADED


Disagree. I think when you see him have a game where the numbers aren't there, it's because of other factors. In the Florida game, you had Tate Rodemaker making his first start and he wasn't ready for primetime, pretty inaccurate.

In others, FSU is either taking what the defense is giving, and Coleman got a lot of attention, or they were running the ball a lot. Jordan Travis did spread the ball around. Like in the Duke game, 9 receivers caught passes from Travis' 27 attempts. And they have other really talented receivers like Johnny Wilson and Jaheim Bell. BTW, not sure if Bell will come out in this draft but if he does, he would be a terrific pick in the 4th or 5th round. He may go higher, but if he stays in school he has a chance to go in the first round in the 2025 draft.

I've said this a couple of times, but Coleman reminds me of Terrell Owens.
As for the question to the OP  
allstarjim : 11/28/2023 12:40 pm : link
I haven't studied all of them enough to make an assertion, but I love Nabers, his teammate Thomas, and Coleman. I haven't watched many of the other guys much yet but I know Sy has Rome Odunze as the #6 overall player in the draft and #2 behind MHJ. He has Coleman as #8 and Nabers as #11 overall.

Sy's top 96 (never a bad time to repost this link):

https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Dave-Syvertsens-Top-96/11524/dh
Egbuka needs to be in the conversation  
RCPhoenix : 11/28/2023 12:41 pm : link
Would be an incredible steal in the second if he lasts that long, but I don’t think he will.
RE: RE: Nabers, by a sizable margin  
ajr2456 : 11/28/2023 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16306117 allstarjim said:
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In comment 16306062 Breeze_94 said:


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He’d be WR1 most other years. He’s good at everything - before the catch, at the catch, and after the catch. Explosive, athletic and strong. And only 20 years old - he’s been incredibly productive from the onset.

I like Odunze as WR3, Coleman as WR4. Some people are waaay too high on Coleman. Great traits, but iffy production and often disappears. I might even like Troy Franklin, AD Mitchell and Brian Thomas over him.

Egbuka/Worthy/Roman Wilson are also good prospects.

This WR class is LOADED



Disagree. I think when you see him have a game where the numbers aren't there, it's because of other factors. In the Florida game, you had Tate Rodemaker making his first start and he wasn't ready for primetime, pretty inaccurate.

In others, FSU is either taking what the defense is giving, and Coleman got a lot of attention, or they were running the ball a lot. Jordan Travis did spread the ball around. Like in the Duke game, 9 receivers caught passes from Travis' 27 attempts. And they have other really talented receivers like Johnny Wilson and Jaheim Bell. BTW, not sure if Bell will come out in this draft but if he does, he would be a terrific pick in the 4th or 5th round. He may go higher, but if he stays in school he has a chance to go in the first round in the 2025 draft.

I've said this a couple of times, but Coleman reminds me of Terrell Owens.


Spot on. I lean toward Coleman as the number two but it’s basically a 2A/b/c with him Nabers and Odunze.

If the Giants can get a QB round one there’s going to be some good WR talent in round two (Thomas, Worthy). The rate that receivers are getting produced in college is astonishing
The Giants  
Everyone Relax : 11/28/2023 1:09 pm : link
have been sorely missing a big physical WR really since Nicks. Nabers fits the mold of a guy who might not be the tallest but plays like AJ Brown, but quicker even. I personally would have it Naber, Odunze, Coleman.
Malachi Corley Western Kentucky  
Earl the goat : 11/28/2023 1:10 pm : link
Is a deebo Samuel clone
Love Nabers  
Woodstock : 11/28/2023 2:20 pm : link
Eom
Much better WR group than last year  
Metnut : 11/28/2023 3:37 pm : link
Even if the team ends up with 5-6 wins and we pick in the back part of the top 10, we'll have a crack at a really good prospect that will fill a bigtime area of need.

Would love to get a crack at a franchise QB, and I do think the top prospects are all worth consideration, but IMO there's no Burrow or Lawrence type at the top of the draft. If the Giants add a stud WR in round 1, and fortify the lines with a plug and play OG and Edge in round 2, we should be very happy.

Can always add a developmental QB later in the draft. Trading up for a QB and missing would set us back another 5 years.
agree with everyone on Nabers  
Eric on Li : 11/28/2023 3:38 pm : link
he looks like davante adams.
Great class of wideouts  
uconngiant : 11/28/2023 5:08 pm : link
Harrison has to be 1A but I would Nabers would be 1B
This WR class is special  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/28/2023 6:28 pm : link
Harrison Jr
Nabers
Odunze
Coleman
Thomas Jr
Egbuka
Franklin
Worthy
Leggette
Polk
Rice



RE: This WR class is special  
bw in dc : 11/28/2023 6:38 pm : link
In comment 16306684 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Harrison Jr
Nabers
Odunze
Coleman
Thomas Jr
Egbuka
Franklin
Worthy
Leggette
Polk
Rice




I love that you mentioned Rice. Very curious to see how he runs.
RE: RE: This WR class is special  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/28/2023 7:09 pm : link
In comment 16306695 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16306684 JoeyBigBlue said:


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Harrison Jr
Nabers
Odunze
Coleman
Thomas Jr
Egbuka
Franklin
Worthy
Leggette
Polk
Rice






I love that you mentioned Rice. Very curious to see how he runs.


I like him. I think he’s a solid No. 2 receiver at the NFL level.
Odunze  
charlito : 11/29/2023 2:40 am : link
.
Don’t sleep on Adonai Mitchell of Texas  
Rick in Dallas : 11/29/2023 4:17 am : link
I think he has had a better year than Worthy.
Great size, high points the ball and very good hands.
Dane Brugler  
LS : 11/29/2023 11:32 am : link
likes him to the Giants around pick 6.
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