First 10 selections:
(1) Chicago (from Carolina): Caleb Williams, QB
(2) Arizona: Marvin Harrison, Jr., WR
(3) New England: Drake Maye, QB
(4) Chicago: Joe Alt, OT
(5) Washington: Olu Fashanu, OT
(6) Giants: Malik Nabers, WR
(7) Tampa Bay: Jayden Daniels, QB
(8) Jets: Brock Bowers, TE
(9) L.A. Chargers: J.C. Latham, OT
(10) Tennessee: Dallas Turner, EDGE
I think the odds of the Giants passing on Jayden Daniels are ZERO. I wouldn't cry, however, taking Malik Nabers. The Giants have nothing on their roster that can touch him. And the Giants have no pass rushing complement to Kayvon Thibodeaux, so I would have no problem taking either Dallas Turner or Laiatu Latu.
No Nix or Penix in first round.
Brugler has consistently not been that high on those 2 QB’s.
Joe Burrow went to a Super Bowl in his second year?
Jets going TE is such a Jets move.
Please, for the love of God, watch other teams in the NFL.
I'd be thrilled with either of the 3. Those 3 are probably 3 of my favorite players in the draft, other than Harrison.
you're saying that if you draft the right QB even if you have a trash OL, you can go to the Super Bowl in 2 years.
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When $40 Million is committed to Daniel Jones next season? Makes zero sense. And then when Daniels fails epically behind a trash O-line, Schoen and Dabboll fall on the sword. You guys will never learn. You don't draft a new QB until you fix the O-line, period. Even Burrow couldn't overcome the crap O-line he plays behind. You think Daniels is going to do it?
Please, for the love of God, watch other teams in the NFL.
Not going to happen. You want the Giants to continue to fail? Drafting Daniels behind one of the worst O-lines in football will make that happen. Take a look at Carolina. How did that can't miss prospect Yound work out?
Hyatt is still developing. He is much better now than earlier in the season.
Yea yea yea i hear you but the ol needs to be fixed regardless of what we do.
Milroe is a bigger faster Hurts and it isn't a stretch to think with a few years experience Nabers and Hyatt are in Brown and Smith's league. Nabers is already a legit game changer.
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When $40 Million is committed to Daniel Jones next season? Makes zero sense. And then when Daniels fails epically behind a trash O-line, Schoen and Dabboll fall on the sword. You guys will never learn. You don't draft a new QB until you fix the O-line, period. Even Burrow couldn't overcome the crap O-line he plays behind. You think Daniels is going to do it?
you're saying that if you draft the right QB even if you have a trash OL, you can go to the Super Bowl in 2 years.
And how do the Bengals look this year? And did they win that SB? Burrow got hurt playing behind his trash O-line.
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When $40 Million is committed to Daniel Jones next season? Makes zero sense. And then when Daniels fails epically behind a trash O-line, Schoen and Dabboll fall on the sword. You guys will never learn. You don't draft a new QB until you fix the O-line, period. Even Burrow couldn't overcome the crap O-line he plays behind. You think Daniels is going to do it?
Please, for the love of God, watch other teams in the NFL.
Not going to happen. You want the Giants to continue to fail? Drafting Daniels behind one of the worst O-lines in football will make that happen. Take a look at Carolina. How did that can't miss prospect Yound work out?
What about Cj Stroud?
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When $40 Million is committed to Daniel Jones next season? Makes zero sense. And then when Daniels fails epically behind a trash O-line, Schoen and Dabboll fall on the sword. You guys will never learn. You don't draft a new QB until you fix the O-line, period. Even Burrow couldn't overcome the crap O-line he plays behind. You think Daniels is going to do it?
Please, for the love of God, watch other teams in the NFL.
Not going to happen. You want the Giants to continue to fail? Drafting Daniels behind one of the worst O-lines in football will make that happen. Take a look at Carolina. How did that can't miss prospect Yound work out?
What about Cj Stroud?
The only guy out of dozens. Not very good odds.
I suspect you think Daniel Jones is a good quarterback in a bad situation.
That likely influences your views.
What about Cj Stroud?
The only guy out of dozens. Not very good odds.
Lay off the Whiskey, Pat
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When $40 Million is committed to Daniel Jones next season? Makes zero sense. And then when Daniels fails epically behind a trash O-line, Schoen and Dabboll fall on the sword. You guys will never learn. You don't draft a new QB until you fix the O-line, period. Even Burrow couldn't overcome the crap O-line he plays behind. You think Daniels is going to do it?
I suspect you think Daniel Jones is a good quarterback in a bad situation.
That likely influences your views.
I think Jones is a good QB, yes. Not a great one, a good one. I don't believe on taking a chance on a new QB until the Giants fix their roster issues. That is my position. When you a take a QB before fixing your roster, you end up looking like the Panthers more often than not. Stroud and the Texans are the exception, not the rule.
The same Joe Burrow that got the Bengals to the SB with a worse OLine than this year?
The flip side is if one doesn't think Jones is the answer and/or has too many health questions now, this may be the team's best shot at replacing him given their draft position, extra 2nd round pick, and the QBs who are available.
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When $40 Million is committed to Daniel Jones next season? Makes zero sense. And then when Daniels fails epically behind a trash O-line, Schoen and Dabboll fall on the sword. You guys will never learn. You don't draft a new QB until you fix the O-line, period. Even Burrow couldn't overcome the crap O-line he plays behind. You think Daniels is going to do it?
I suspect you think Daniel Jones is a good quarterback in a bad situation.
That likely influences your views.
I think Jones is a good QB, yes. Not a great one, a good one. I don't believe on taking a chance on a new QB until the Giants fix their roster issues. That is my position. When you a take a QB before fixing your roster, you end up looking like the Panthers more often than not. Stroud and the Texans are the exception, not the rule.
Too bad the Giants only have one draft pick and no free agency this year
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When $40 Million is committed to Daniel Jones next season? Makes zero sense. And then when Daniels fails epically behind a trash O-line, Schoen and Dabboll fall on the sword. You guys will never learn. You don't draft a new QB until you fix the O-line, period. Even Burrow couldn't overcome the crap O-line he plays behind. You think Daniels is going to do it?
you're saying that if you draft the right QB even if you have a trash OL, you can go to the Super Bowl in 2 years.
And how do the Bengals look this year? And did they win that SB? Burrow got hurt playing behind his trash O-line.
Lol reasonably, you get to championship games and SBs...you got there, whether you win or not comes down to a few plays. I certainly wouldn't take the stance of "they lost" and cross my arms as an argument. Getting the QB right raises the entire floor of the time. And its possible to get the QB right while making the OLine better.
Injuries can happen on any given play. What are we talking about here? Wasn't it a wrist while he fell to the ground? Ya know, something that happens every game?
The flip side is if one doesn't think Jones is the answer and/or has too many health questions now, this may be the team's best shot at replacing him given their draft position, extra 2nd round pick, and the QBs who are available.
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No Nix or Penix in first round.
Brugler has consistently not been that high on those 2 QB’s.
This is not his rankings; this is based on what he thinks the teams will do:
The picks don’t reflect my personal rankings or what I would do, but rather this projection strictly goes by what I think teams would do if the draft was tomorrow.
Amazing how some still do not understand the draft or the big picture.
Amazing how some still do not understand the draft or the big picture.
This is a fair point.
I could be wrong but for some reason I envision Daniels being the guy who "shoots" up draft boards (atleast through the media) through his off season work outs and throwing in shorts. Ala Anthony Richardson.
Amazing how some still do not understand the draft or the big picture.
Big picture is we need players - lots of holes to fill, AND we need a QB. Trade back, accumulate assets, and pick a QB you like later in round one or two (if the QB’s you value at the top 10 are gone, assuming we have a top 10 draft slot).
Amazing how some still do not understand the draft or the big picture.
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I'd be looking at Turner and the WRs if their QB target is gone.
Amazing how some still do not understand the draft or the big picture.
Big picture is we need players - lots of holes to fill, AND we need a QB. Trade back, accumulate assets, and pick a QB you like later in round one or two (if the QB’s you value at the top 10 are gone, assuming we have a top 10 draft slot).
Viable plan, you see the big picture.
I hear what you're saying, but Malik Nabers is a legit #1 NFL Team wide receiver, and I don't think Joe Schoen would pick this guy because he had Daniel Jones in mind. I love Marvin Harrison, Jr., but Malik Nabers is much more than a consolation prize for missing out on Harrison. In any event, as I said before, I believe Joe Schoen would snag Jayden Daniels in a heart-beat if the draft unfolded the way Dane Bugler has it.
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I'd be looking at Turner and the WRs if their QB target is gone.
Amazing how some still do not understand the draft or the big picture.
This is a fair point.
I could be wrong but for some reason I envision Daniels being the guy who "shoots" up draft boards (atleast through the media) through his off season work outs and throwing in shorts. Ala Anthony Richardson.
Richardson is an athlete who plays QB.
Daniels is an athletic QB.
I've seen enough of Daniels throwing in full pads in the SEC to see he's much better at playing QB than Richardson.
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Oy vey . I guess this means DeVito is a future HOF'er..lol..
And his 2022 season, winning a road playoff was a figment of our imaginations? This os where the Jobes haters go too far. You can argue he needs to be replaced sure, but to label him as a bust is a joke.
BUST
lots of QBs won a playoff game once:
Bortles
Osweiler
Trubisky
Tebow
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When $40 Million is committed to Daniel Jones next season? Makes zero sense. And then when Daniels fails epically behind a trash O-line, Schoen and Dabboll fall on the sword. You guys will never learn. You don't draft a new QB until you fix the O-line, period. Even Burrow couldn't overcome the crap O-line he plays behind. You think Daniels is going to do it?
I suspect you think Daniel Jones is a good quarterback in a bad situation.
That likely influences your views.
I think Jones is a good QB in a bad situation. That said, if the Giants think a QB available to them in the draft has the potential to be great, you have to get him. Add to that, the injuries to Jones? They need to move on from him and that contract in '25.
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Oy vey . I guess this means DeVito is a future HOF'er..lol..
And his 2022 season, winning a road playoff was a figment of our imaginations? This os where the Jobes haters go too far. You can argue he needs to be replaced sure, but to label him as a bust is a joke.
Blake Bortles once threw for 30 touchdowns and won two playoff games, and went head to head with Tom Brady in the AFC championship game. Is he not a bust?
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Oy vey . I guess this means DeVito is a future HOF'er..lol..
And his 2022 season, winning a road playoff was a figment of our imaginations? This os where the Jobes haters go too far. You can argue he needs to be replaced sure, but to label him as a bust is a joke.
BUST
lots of QBs won a playoff game once:
Bortles
Osweiler
Trubisky
Tebow
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Oy vey . I guess this means DeVito is a future HOF'er..lol..
And his 2022 season, winning a road playoff was a figment of our imaginations? This os where the Jobes haters go too far. You can argue he needs to be replaced sure, but to label him as a bust is a joke.
2022 is a figment of your imagination. A team that squeaked by with 9 wins and beat a vastly overrated team with zero production from our QB before getting blown out for a third time by the Eagles.
Let it go man
You are missing something here. Whether they take "WR2" or "QB3" is a separate issue to Jones. The scholarship comment is ignorant. The Giants have an out after next season where they can get out of the contract without getting killed financially. Even if Jones is not the long-term answer, you don't pass on a Nabers if you don't think Daniels is a franchise QB.
I am a big fan of both, but you don't shop hungry, desperate for a position. If they view Nabers as an all-pro and aren't nearly as high on Daniels, you don't pass on Nabers (who would be the #1 WR in most drafts). And I say this as someone who would take Daniels over Nabers if the draft worked out like that.
They do not need to pick QB early. He can go in the 2nd or even 3rd. Look what Daboll is able to do with a UDFA. Never force picks. Don't draft position, but the individual.
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Oy vey . I guess this means DeVito is a future HOF'er..lol..
And his 2022 season, winning a road playoff was a figment of our imaginations? This os where the Jobes haters go too far. You can argue he needs to be replaced sure, but to label him as a bust is a joke.
BUST
lots of QBs won a playoff game once:
Bortles
Osweiler
Trubisky
Tebow
And Jones is berrer than all of them. Let me explain to you what a bust looks like. Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russel, Dwayne Haskins, etc. Not Daniel Jones.
In 2023 based on his performance on the field Daniel Jones was a bottom three QB in the league. QBs who play that poorly in year 5 aren't NFL starting QBs.