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NGT. Did Aaron Rodgers really have a torn Achilles ?

Spider56 : 11/29/2023 3:45 pm
So 11 weeks after his surgery, the Jests opened the 21 day return to practice window for AR today. For all you medical guys out there, what do you think the real story is? Was his new procedure a real medical breakthrough ? Is he a miracle healer? Maybe he wasn’t hurt nearly as bad as was initially reported? Or maybe there’s no chance he comes back this year and this is just another PR play to keep the Jests in the news? I can’t see much logic in risking his 40 year old body to coming back too soon
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RE: I hope he comes back  
Dr. D : 11/29/2023 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16307710 UConn4523 said:
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if for no other reason than it will annoy all the people that hate him.

I think I'm with you
RE: Remember when Booby Miles  
Amtoft : 11/29/2023 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16307720 Drewcon40 said:
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tried to come back in Friday Night Lights?


You know that was based on a true story. He did come back and play on that injury and ruined his knee and career.
RE: RE: Remember when Booby Miles  
Drewcon40 : 11/29/2023 4:21 pm : link
In comment 16307732 Amtoft said:
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tried to come back in Friday Night Lights?



You know that was based on a true story. He did come back and play on that injury and ruined his knee and career.


I think in the book that scene was exaggerated

I actually just looked him up and never realized he actually was arrested later in life.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2023 4:22 pm : link
I detest Rodgers, but I somewhat feel bad for him too. He comes across as someone who desperately needs to stay in the news and be relevant.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2023 4:23 pm : link
You wanna win? Put Boobie in!
WWE  
Optimus-NY : 11/29/2023 4:24 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Remember when Booby Miles  
Amtoft : 11/29/2023 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16307734 Drewcon40 said:
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tried to come back in Friday Night Lights?



You know that was based on a true story. He did come back and play on that injury and ruined his knee and career.



I think in the book that scene was exaggerated

I actually just looked him up and never realized he actually was arrested later in life.


I think there is a Booby Miles documentary. It was pretty good if I remember correctly. I think they had him playing on a torn ACL or something.
RE: RE: Remember when Booby Miles  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 11/29/2023 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16307732 Amtoft said:
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tried to come back in Friday Night Lights?



You know that was based on a true story. He did come back and play on that injury and ruined his knee and career.


Came here to say this. Another fun fact: our very own Jessie Armstead played LB for the other team in the finals in the real life game. I want to say he tipped the pass that fell incomplete to end the game, but I'm probably making it up.
Of course he did  
Joey in VA : 11/29/2023 4:27 pm : link
He just had a newer procedure done that fuses the tendon at one spot rather than dropping in a slab of junk and having two infusion points, or something like that. They detailed it on the broadcast, so yes it was and yes he'll be back.
that new procedure  
Fat Wally : 11/29/2023 4:33 pm : link
is probably considered experimental and a "Longshot". But he's also loaded and has access to top notch medical equipment and staff. Remember when TO had a berimetric chamber installed in his house so he could heal in time for the super bowl? Remember when Jerry Rice came back from an ACL tear in the same season? It's not unheard of, and if a player is dedicated and determined enough... anything is possible.

I also think Achilles injuries are not as bad as they used to be. Didn't Cam Akers come back for the playoffs/Super Bowl after tearing his early in camp. I think medicine has gotten better in this area.

ACLs however are still pretty much a year or more. I'm sure this has to do with severity of the injury, cartilage damage and type of procedure performed. It's too bad there hasn't been more of an advance here. I guess the recovery rates from it are better than they used to be.
RE: …  
UConn4523 : 11/29/2023 4:40 pm : link
In comment 16307737 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I detest Rodgers, but I somewhat feel bad for him too. He comes across as someone who desperately needs to stay in the news and be relevant.


I think that’s just what people say that hate him. He seems perfectly fine quietly living his own life, in fact, people complain when he does that, too.

He detests the media, and fucks with them because they are terrible at their jobs. That’s about the only thing I see him truly enjoying and don’t see it as trying to stay relevant.
RE: …  
j_rud : 11/29/2023 4:45 pm : link
In comment 16307737 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I detest Rodgers, but I somewhat feel bad for him too. He comes across as someone who desperately needs to stay in the news and be relevant.


Our views often align but gotta disagree here. Rodgers isn't out there live streaming, in the news every day, etc. No skin off my ass, but the reasons people often give for disliking the guy don't always add up.
UConn.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2023 4:47 pm : link
We will disagree. I think he loves people talking about him & making himself the center of attention.
RE: Do you really think  
Jints in Carolina : 11/29/2023 4:50 pm : link
In comment 16307718 Gman11 said:
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they would play him if he wasn't fully healed?


It's the Jets, so yes.
I don’t think it’s Rodgers people detest  
Drewcon40 : 11/29/2023 4:54 pm : link
Rather the team he currently plays on. At least that’s my feeling.

Rodgers and the Jets are a big time losing combo.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/29/2023 4:57 pm : link
All of the players and coach Rodgers had them sign have been AWFUL, which makes it even more hilarious.
I don't think it wise to bring him back at this point  
Matt M. : 11/29/2023 5:01 pm : link
A few weeks ago, this talk was at least compelling because the Jets were still in a viable hunt for a playoff spot. Their season is essentially done now. So, why bring back a 40 year old player from an achilles injury, even if he is cleared to play. What is there to gain?

The only advantage I can think of is it would get the mental doubt from returning from an injury out of the way now, in meaningless games, making Rodgers fully available for the off season.
Rodgers comments...  
JohnG in Albany : 11/29/2023 5:06 pm : link
from yesterday, I think from McAfee, seemed a bit more cautious than some of his previous declarations.
I'm 99% percent sure he said yesterday  
oghwga : 11/29/2023 5:07 pm : link
That he wasn't coming back this year after all. The fact that the games would be meaningless probably had an effect on him changing his mind.
RE: I'm 99% percent sure he said yesterday  
Matt M. : 11/29/2023 5:10 pm : link
In comment 16307808 oghwga said:
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That he wasn't coming back this year after all. The fact that the games would be meaningless probably had an effect on him changing his mind.
He was shooting to return to practice on his birthday, which is this Saturday.
You all know Cam Akers came back in 6 months from achilles, right?  
BH28 : 11/29/2023 5:13 pm : link
He tore his achilles in July and played in the super bowl. Why is this so hard to believe? Is it not plausible that a non-RB could make it back quicker? Medical technology is constantly improving.
Whatever sets the Jets back  
Drewcon40 : 11/29/2023 5:19 pm : link
and keeps them out of the playoffs is what I’d like to happen.
Rodgers is not a top QB anymore  
averagejoe : 11/29/2023 5:21 pm : link
but he is a world class attention whore. Watching him lose to a bad Jets team and a mediocre Giants team in 2022 I feel like he has lost his fastball and is fading fast. Will have a good laugh when he plays again and is immediately injured.

How hard is Green Bay GM laughing ?
The only thing will be  
Drewcon40 : 11/29/2023 5:24 pm : link
the insufferable summer of Jets fans declaring that 2024 is their year.
This is the test  
Turf Toe : 11/29/2023 6:27 pm : link
I haven’t seen one yet for physical therapy post surgery, but I’m pretty familiar with Arthrex as their headquarters is just down the road from me. Twenty yrs ago they were an unknown, but over the past 10yrs they really put themselves on the ortho map, particularly with the success of the “tightrope” surgery that has got a lot of high ankle sprains back quicker and with less reoccurrence. Hurts and Tua both had it and we’re back a few weeks ahead of schedule. About 10yrs ago a foot/ankle doc I used to do lunch/learns with showed me and my coworker the “speedbridge”. It used a bio tape and cross-over stabilization technique that was going to be strong enough to be ready for aggressive rehab in 6-12 wks. It was quite ambitious IMO, from a tissue healing perspective. Since then, I’ve never seen one for PT as docs here still go with traditional tech. When I heard AR was doing some advanced technique, I checked and the speedbridge is mainstream, or will be. Idk how it will turn out, but if it’s a success, I’d expect to see more it at least in sports.
RE: RE: I hope he comes back  
BillKo : 11/29/2023 6:27 pm : link
In comment 16307731 Dr. D said:
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if for no other reason than it will annoy all the people that hate him.


I think I'm with you


Well, I dislike him but definitely want to see him come back.

First, I feel cheated that I didn't get to see him play this year - he's a great talent.

Second, I want to see if the blowhard can really pull it off.

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BillKo : 11/29/2023 6:29 pm : link
In comment 16307778 j_rud said:
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I detest Rodgers, but I somewhat feel bad for him too. He comes across as someone who desperately needs to stay in the news and be relevant.



Our views often align but gotta disagree here. Rodgers isn't out there live streaming, in the news every day, etc. No skin off my ass, but the reasons people often give for disliking the guy don't always add up.


Because the guy comes off as a know it all.

And he's allowed to do that LOL

But I'm also allowed to feel that way too.
RE: The only thing will be  
nygiants16 : 11/29/2023 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16307826 Drewcon40 said:
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the insufferable summer of Jets fans declaring that 2024 is their year.


you mean like every year?
RE: RE: The only thing will be  
Drewcon40 : 11/29/2023 7:31 pm : link
In comment 16307933 nygiants16 said:
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the insufferable summer of Jets fans declaring that 2024 is their year.



you mean like every year?


Exactly!!
RE: This is the test  
Spider56 : 11/29/2023 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16307890 Turf Toe said:
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I haven’t seen one yet for physical therapy post surgery, but I’m pretty familiar with Arthrex as their headquarters is just down the road from me. Twenty yrs ago they were an unknown, but over the past 10yrs they really put themselves on the ortho map, particularly with the success of the “tightrope” surgery that has got a lot of high ankle sprains back quicker and with less reoccurrence. Hurts and Tua both had it and we’re back a few weeks ahead of schedule. About 10yrs ago a foot/ankle doc I used to do lunch/learns with showed me and my coworker the “speedbridge”. It used a bio tape and cross-over stabilization technique that was going to be strong enough to be ready for aggressive rehab in 6-12 wks. It was quite ambitious IMO, from a tissue healing perspective. Since then, I’ve never seen one for PT as docs here still go with traditional tech. When I heard AR was doing some advanced technique, I checked and the speedbridge is mainstream, or will be. Idk how it will turn out, but if it’s a success, I’d expect to see more it at least in sports.


Thank you!
He' not going  
k2tampa : 11/29/2023 7:47 pm : link
to play. His two requirements are that he can do everything he wants, and that the Jets are in contention. Are the Jets going to be in contention?
RE: The only thing will be  
nochance : 11/29/2023 8:02 pm : link
In comment 16307826 Drewcon40 said:
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the insufferable summer of Jets fans declaring that 2024 is their year.



Not after the shit year they're having now. The Jets are no better than the Giants
Hmmmm, and they say he can start practicing again the same week  
PatersonPlank : 11/29/2023 8:09 pm : link
as the 60th anniversary of JFK's shooting. Coincidence?
RE: RE: The only thing will be  
Drewcon40 : 11/29/2023 8:15 pm : link
In comment 16307980 nochance said:
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the insufferable summer of Jets fans declaring that 2024 is their year.




Not after the shit year they're having now. The Jets are no better than the Giants


nochance, thats what ya got (Vince McMahon theme)


Oh not these Jets fans. I’ve never seen a more arrogant, obnoxious fan base.


Due to the ban on political content on BBI,  
lawguy9801 : 11/29/2023 10:52 pm : link
we can't discuss why so many hate Rodgers. But everyone knows why.
RE: Due to the ban on political content on BBI,  
SirLoinOfBeef : 11/29/2023 10:58 pm : link
In comment 16308110 lawguy9801 said:
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we can't discuss why so many hate Rodgers. But everyone knows why.


Or...

Why so many love Rodgers.

Too easy.
RE: Due to the ban on political content on BBI,  
UConn4523 : 11/29/2023 10:59 pm : link
In comment 16308110 lawguy9801 said:
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we can't discuss why so many hate Rodgers. But everyone knows why.


Lol, yeah because that argument has held up well. And way to make it political.
RE: RE: Due to the ban on political content on BBI,  
lawguy9801 : 11/29/2023 11:04 pm : link
In comment 16308115 UConn4523 said:
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we can't discuss why so many hate Rodgers. But everyone knows why.



Lol, yeah because that argument has held up well. And way to make it political.


Haha - well, I guess I did. Btw, I am in full agreement with your 4:06 pm post!
RE: Due to the ban on political content on BBI,  
Mike from SI : 11/29/2023 11:10 pm : link
In comment 16308110 lawguy9801 said:
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we can't discuss why so many hate Rodgers. But everyone knows why.


I was going to post this as well. The reasons a lot of people hate (and yes, love) him are pretty obvious but speaking of such things is verboten.

Before he became more "outspoken," so to say, it seems like most people liked him, but I could be wrong.
RE: Remember when Booby Miles  
santacruzom : 11/29/2023 11:27 pm : link
In comment 16307720 Drewcon40 said:
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tried to come back in Friday Night Lights?


Him crying in the car with his uncle after cleaning out his locker was honestly one of the most well-acted, devastating scenes I've ever seen.
RE: RE: Due to the ban on political content on BBI,  
Spider56 : 11/30/2023 8:09 am : link
In comment 16308123 Mike from SI said:
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In comment 16308110 lawguy9801 said:


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we can't discuss why so many hate Rodgers. But everyone knows why.



I was going to post this as well. The reasons a lot of people hate (and yes, love) him are pretty obvious but speaking of such things is verboten.

Before he became more "outspoken," so to say, it seems like most people liked him, but I could be wrong.


I liked him initially in Green Bay and I thought he did a vg job with Jeopardy. I started disliking him when he started to dive at the first signs of pressure and then turned it up a notch when he signed with the jests. I have a few guys in a ‘hate’ category, but he’s not one of them.
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bluefin : 11/30/2023 8:37 am : link
In comment 16308119 lawguy9801 said:
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In comment 16308110 lawguy9801 said:


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we can't discuss why so many hate Rodgers. But everyone knows why.



Lol, yeah because that argument has held up well. And way to make it political.



Haha - well, I guess I did. Btw, I am in full agreement with your 4:06 pm post!

if you did it was in a non-incriminating way - bet you’re a good lawyer.
More likely he had a partial tear  
BlueHurricane : 11/30/2023 8:40 am : link
Had the speedbridge surgery and has been using BPC157 peptide and stem cells to speed recovery. Peptides are a game changer in healing.
An actual doctor weighs in  
BUgiantfan : 11/30/2023 9:16 am : link
on the topic in this video:
Were doctors wrong? - ( New Window )
I had a rupture of my achilles almost 2 years ago.  
SuperRonJohnson : 11/30/2023 7:14 pm : link
It's still a problem. But then again I'm almost 64 and no longer am in consideration for a quarterback job. But I can't see AR coming back this season. It would be foolish. Jets are not going anywhere.
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bwitz : 11/30/2023 10:32 pm : link
In comment 16307737 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I detest Rodgers, but I somewhat feel bad for him too. He comes across as someone who desperately needs to stay in the news and be relevant.


There’s a reason he’s on Pat McAfee’s show on ESPN every week. He’s the personification of a person who believes he’s smarter than everyone else in the room but, nothing could be further from the truth.
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Ned In Atlanta : 12/1/2023 9:36 am : link
In comment 16307778 j_rud said:
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I detest Rodgers, but I somewhat feel bad for him too. He comes across as someone who desperately needs to stay in the news and be relevant.



Our views often align but gotta disagree here. Rodgers isn't out there live streaming, in the news every day, etc. No skin off my ass, but the reasons people often give for disliking the guy don't always add up.



Maybe we're seeing a different guy. Have you seen him on Mcafee? Calling Kelce Mr Pfizer? Guy is an attention whore - don't know that's even debatable.
That was a fantastic comment  
UConn4523 : 12/1/2023 9:57 am : link
so anyone that makes a joke is an attention whore or is it only when you don’t like the guy already or the content of the joke?

Does the Manningcast make the Mannings attention whores? All their commercials? All their skits and parody’s?
RE: That was a fantastic comment  
bceagle05 : 12/1/2023 10:08 am : link
In comment 16309577 UConn4523 said:
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so anyone that makes a joke is an attention whore or is it only when you don’t like the guy already or the content of the joke?

I didn’t mind the joke, but I’m assuming he didn’t refer to Kelce by that name when he saw him and spoke to him in person a couple days prior at the Jets/Chiefs game. He waits til he’s back on his couch in Cali during an interview.
Kelce took it just fine  
UConn4523 : 12/1/2023 1:03 pm : link
seems to me, like usual, it’s fans and the media who make something a huge deal out of nothing. And to earlier points, I do believe Rodgers feeds off that and enjoys mocking the media. I don’t find that to be problematic or a knock on his character - it’s actually quite refreshing.
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