Oregon vs Washington tonight. Oregon is the better team right now. Washington clipped them earlier. Should be a fun matchup with Penix and Nix slinging it. Lot of good WRs as well.
Here’s a hypothetical scenario. You’re winners this weekend:
Washington
Michigan
FSU
Bama
Texas
If this is this case - No SEC in the final 4? Hmmmm
I got the final four as such-Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, & Texas.
I got the final four as such-Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, & Texas.
I think if Oregon wins tonight they re in……. no?
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I think Oregon wins tonight. FSU loses tomorrow, but Texas, Michigan, & Georgia win tomorrow.
I got the final four as such-Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, & Texas.
I think if Oregon wins tonight they re in……. no?
Yeah - no question. No conference is getting two in this year unless Michigan, Texas, and Georgia loses.
Bama has a good chance to beat Georgia whose defense is not as strong as previous 2 years.
I think Oregon beats Washington and Michigan beats Iowa.
Not sure who wins ACC.It’s a toss up to me.
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I think Oregon wins tonight. FSU loses tomorrow, but Texas, Michigan, & Georgia win tomorrow.
I got the final four as such-Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, & Texas.
I think if Oregon wins tonight they re in……. no?
Sorry misread, didn’t have coffee yet.
So if they all win, decision committee has an easy job. Texas would get left out with one loss. (Although I think the TV networks would really love to have Texas in it.)
Texas needs an upset, I think FSU is a possibility due to second string QB.
If multiple upsets, decision committee will have a very tough time with many one loss teams.
I know. But I can dream.
If you want to get a good laugh, look at Iowa's offensive stats. I've linked below.
It's absolutely stunning how bad their offense is and they have ten wins. They have 20 offensive TDs in 12 games.
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It's absolutely stunning how bad their offense is and they have ten wins. They have 20 offensive TDs in 12 games. Brutal - ( New Window )
Please no Daniel Jones talk on this thread.... lol.
I think the committee has to be secretly rooting for a Georgia win or FSU/Texas to lose.
I think the committee has to be secretly rooting for a Georgia win or FSU/Texas to lose.
How do you put Bama in over undefeated teams and a team that beat them?
Oregon would have the better resume and head to head has to matter even if it was early in the year
Then it comes down to Bama and Texas. Texas beat Bama. Sorry Georgia has to be out too. No (real) quality wins and no SEC title.
Oregon would have the better resume and head to head has to matter even if it was early in the year
Beating Georgia on the road - SEC CG is in ATL - would be enough for me to qualify Bama over FSU and UT.
For me, FSU just isn't the same team right now and Bama lost early enough to recover from that UT loss, even if it was H2H.
Even an undefeated FSU team is not one of the 4 best teams. And both Georgia and Bama would put a whooping on Oregon, Wash and maybe even Michigan.
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Along with Michigan, Texas, fsu, Oregon Bama shouldn’t get in.
Oregon would have the better resume and head to head has to matter even if it was early in the year
Beating Georgia on the road - SEC CG is in ATL - would be enough for me to qualify Bama over FSU and UT.
For me, FSU just isn't the same team right now and Bama lost early enough to recover from that UT loss, even if it was H2H.
That’s the way I see it as well but I was curious as to what others thought the committee would do.
I know Bama lost to Texas and that has to count in Texas’ favor but it was very early on and Bama hasn’t lost since, while Texas has. Plus beating UGA would have to give Bama huge bonus points in the committees eyes.
Gonna be interesting to see this all play out but my gut tells me an SEC team gets in even a one loss Bama.
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Along with Michigan, Texas, fsu, Oregon Bama shouldn’t get in.
Oregon would have the better resume and head to head has to matter even if it was early in the year
Beating Georgia on the road - SEC CG is in ATL - would be enough for me to qualify Bama over FSU and UT.
For me, FSU just isn't the same team right now and Bama lost early enough to recover from that UT loss, even if it was H2H.
Disagree. Florida and Auburn are equally as bad and FSU covered with their backup and Alabama needed a Hail Mary
Ugh my reading comp sucks this AM! Looks like you were actually agreeing on Bama lol
Texas scheduled Alabama on the road and beat them.
Texas scheduled Alabama on the road and beat them.
It should count for something but my question is does the fact Bama hasn’t lost since while Texas has, along with Bama beating #1 Georgia in a Conf Champ this late in the year count more heading into the playoffs?
The goal is to get the four best teams right now in right? I’d put Texas in over FSU because of the Noles QB situation but not over Bama if Bama wins. Plus I have a hard time seeing the committee not putting an SEC Champ in.
Especially at the teams place.
Past conference reputation should have no impact on this years rankings.
Texas scheduled Alabama on the road and beat them.
I cede the point on H2H. But there is more credibility and weight if Bama takes out Georgia on the "road". That would be too good of an accomplishment.
BTW, you know these rivalries like Bama v Auburn are games where the records mean nothing. Those games get nuts. So, I wouldn't be so quick to diminish that win by Bama....
Past conference reputation should have no impact on this years rankings.
I wouldnt even consider Missouri or Ole Miss good teams. They are pretty good. Ole Miss two best wins are against Tulane and LSU and they gave up 50 in one of those games.
And dont give me rankings with this team. If Michigan beats Iowa - is anyone really going to be impressed with them beating a top 15 team? Of course not.
Especially at the teams place.
They were better in September but if Bama beats UGA in Atlanta tomorrow are they better now?
Doesn’t the fact Bama hasn’t lost since while UT has factor into it? The goal is to get the four best teams now in the playoffs.
I call BS on that as Texas if it wins the BigXII absolutely deserves the nod over Bama.
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Is part of the problem. Why? The SEC had the worst non conference record, the bottom half of the SEC was absolutely terrible. There were five good teams (tennesse shouldn’t be ranked they only are because they’re SEC).
Past conference reputation should have no impact on this years rankings.
I wouldnt even consider Missouri or Ole Miss good teams. They are pretty good. Ole Miss two best wins are against Tulane and LSU and they gave up 50 in one of those games.
And dont give me rankings with this team. If Michigan beats Iowa - is anyone really going to be impressed with them beating a top 15 team? Of course not.
I’m thinking you haven’t seen much of Missouri this year if you don’t think they’re a good team
Especially at the teams place.
Really? Teams can't get better as a season evolves?
Do you think the Jets are better than Philly? ;)
Do you think if Bama played Texas now - anywhere - Texas would be favored?
Milroe is a much better player/QB now then when they lost to Texas three months ago. Which makes Bama a better team...
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Over Bama doesn’t count because it was too early, then just start the season in November. What’s the point of playing the games?
Texas scheduled Alabama on the road and beat them.
I cede the point on H2H. But there is more credibility and weight if Bama takes out Georgia on the "road". That would be too good of an accomplishment.
BTW, you know these rivalries like Bama v Auburn are games where the records mean nothing. Those games get nuts. So, I wouldn't be so quick to diminish that win by Bama....
Doesn’t that say even more about FSU winning a rivalry game with their backup?
Jordan Travis is good, but it’s not like they’re losing Clemson Deshaun Watson. There’s even some things Rodemaker does better, including the deep ball. Their defense has also given up 58 second half points this year. FSU is legit with out without Travis. Would they beat Georgia, probably not. But I don’t think it’s r guaranteed blowout everyone is expecting.
I call BS on that as Texas if it wins the BigXII absolutely deserves the nod over Bama.
Of course it counts. It would count more to me if it wasn’t the first game of the year though and If UT had run the table and were undefeated there wouldn’t even be a discussion.
But they have lost since while Bama hasn’t, and if Bama beats the #1 team in the country tomorrow that’s a huge win.
Watching the crappy defenses of the west coast teams and some of the weak QB play in the Big 10 is alarming.
The game tomorrow between Bama and Georgia is basically for the SEC Championship and basically for National Championship as well.
I call BS on that as Texas if it wins the BigXII absolutely deserves the nod over Bama.
Agree, and to add to that, they beat Alabama on Tuscaloosa, fairly handily. And Texas losing to Oklahoma, in a rivalry game, isn't a bad loss.
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That tells me they’re the better team.
Especially at the teams place.
Really? Teams can't get better as a season evolves?
Do you think the Jets are better than Philly? ;)
Do you think if Bama played Texas now - anywhere - Texas would be favored?
Milroe is a much better player/QB now then when they lost to Texas three months ago. Which makes Bama a better team...
But they still didnt beat Texas at home nonetheless. Week 1 matters as much as week 14. There is no order of importance on when games are played. They all count the same.
Why even look at records then? Just put the 4 hottest teams in and let them duke it out.
This stuff whos playing matters now is a sports jock type commentary. Should we discount FSU win over LSU since LSU is playing better now? Of course not. The game counts. It doesnt matter when its played.
Watching the crappy defenses of the west coast teams and some of the weak QB play in the Big 10 is alarming.
The game tomorrow between Bama and Georgia is basically for the SEC Championship and basically for National Championship as well.
Disagree. I think it’s more equal than it’s ever been between the conferences. Georgia is still the leader by far, but the top of the conferences are closer than people think.
Watching the crappy defenses of the west coast teams and some of the weak QB play in the Big 10 is alarming.
The game tomorrow between Bama and Georgia is basically for the SEC Championship and basically for National Championship as well.
Theres a shit ton of crappy defenses in the SEC. Georgia is the best team in the nation. There is no doubt. But if they lose - they cant get in over Bama. And they cant get in over undefeated teams. People shit on Michigan for their non-conference schedule. Georgia's is just as bad. Missouri and Ole Miss arent good enough to leap undefeated teams.
Maybe hatred is too strong a word but objectively looking at it, I don’t know how anyone following the game doesn’t see how good that Conference is. To me it’s on another tier than any other and while I too would like to see new teams in, I want the best teams playing now in.
I think whoever wins that Championship has earned the right to be in, even a one loss Bama.
Well if Georgia takes care of business - then there is no argument. So why worry?
But if Georgia loses tomorrow and it is a good close game, both Bama and Georgia should be in the final four.
I’m with you there but it’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out, especially if Bama wins.
Interested to see how Penix does this evening in a big game.
Pretty sure ThomasG is a huge Dawgs fan, no?
But if Georgia loses tomorrow and it is a good close game, both Bama and Georgia should be in the final four.
Theres no chance. Unless there are other upset. I know you think FSU doesnt deserve it, and they probably dont. But an undefeated team from the ACC being left out? Thats a really really tough argument to make.
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And obviously a 2-loss Bama team would be out as well.
But if Georgia loses tomorrow and it is a good close game, both Bama and Georgia should be in the final four.
Theres no chance. Unless there are other upset. I know you think FSU doesnt deserve it, and they probably dont. But an undefeated team from the ACC being left out? Thats a really really tough argument to make.
FSU doesn't. Undefeated in this ACC?...whatever.
Hopefully they will just lose and give the committee a way out instead of having to exercise poor judgment.