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JT039 : 12/1/2023 5:57 am
Oregon vs Washington tonight. Oregon is the better team right now. Washington clipped them earlier. Should be a fun matchup with Penix and Nix slinging it. Lot of good WRs as well.

Here’s a hypothetical scenario. You’re winners this weekend:
Washington
Michigan
FSU
Bama
Texas

If this is this case - No SEC in the final 4? Hmmmm
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RE: RE: The Selection Committee...  
bigbluewillrise : 12/2/2023 11:01 pm : link
In comment 16311411 HomerJones45 said:
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is praying right now for Louisville.

this whole championship business is a phony made for tv event. The sporting press bitched and moaned about coaches polls and AP polls and so now they have a “selection committee” which is nothing but another poll by a tiny group.

The ratings have been dropping and are down 30 or 40% from where they were 10 years ago.

Watch Alabama get dropped because they are old hat and everyone is sick of seeing them in the phony- baloney playoffs and the ratings are down.


where do you see ratings are down? they are massively up!
lousisville with the punt block/sack of the punter  
bigbluewillrise : 12/2/2023 11:02 pm : link
opprunity to get a lead in the 4th QTR

WOWWWW
brohm should have played conservative  
bigbluewillrise : 12/2/2023 11:05 pm : link
4 FGs wins this lol
RE: FSU should not be in it  
allstarjim : 12/2/2023 11:07 pm : link
In comment 16311389 PatersonPlank said:
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Can any seriously say that FSU would beat Georgia, Texas, or Bama?


Why can't they? They have a championship caliber defense that has gotten better as the season has gone along. They can also run the ball as good as anyone in the country.

Finish the sentence: "Defense wins ____."

Now, also understand that Rodemaker would likely start over Glenn in the postseason game(s). Rodemaker hasn't yet shown what he can do, but they are going to do everything to get him ready and they are going to have a gameplan. It's not all about the QB. Yes, it's a big deal, but what FSU has at all the other positions can compete with anybody.

Some of you are underestimating how good this Florida State TEAM is.

If they win this game, they should be in. It's a slap in the face to have an undefeated Power 5 conference champion out of the CFP. It's never been done before and it has to matter that they won every game on their schedule. All this BS about "they're not better than Ohio State, Alabama, or Texas," well, those teams lost a game, and they didn't play FSU, so it's just subjective conjecture. The '0' on the loss side of the W-L column, it has to matter.
Loveland and Barner  
JT039 : 12/2/2023 11:09 pm : link
Both have dropped 3rd down money passes.

RE: RE: The Selection Committee...  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:11 pm : link
In comment 16311411 HomerJones45 said:
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is praying right now for Louisville.

this whole championship business is a phony made for tv event. The sporting press bitched and moaned about coaches polls and AP polls and so now they have a “selection committee” which is nothing but another poll by a tiny group.

The ratings have been dropping and are down 30 or 40% from where they were 10 years ago.

Watch Alabama get dropped because they are old hat and everyone is sick of seeing them in the phony- baloney playoffs and the ratings are down.


The Final 4 has not lived up to the billing for a variety of reasons. Two that stick out in my mind are the dates they play the games (currently the finals are a week after New Years and viewers lose interest; so, move the semis to Dec 24th and the finals back to New Years) and the competitiveness of the games have been God awful.

This is why the playoffs have been expanded to twelve games with the intentions to have more relevant bowls and, hopefully, have more competitive games.

Let's be honest. Outside of the F4 games, the bowls are exhibition games that have completely lost their fanfare. The ratings are poor across the board and attendance is also piss poor.

But I'm all for an expanded playoff. Just wish they had settled on just eight.

You are correct. This is a TV show when you strip it down to it's core. And getting the best ratings are a driver.
RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16311417 allstarjim said:
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Can any seriously say that FSU would beat Georgia, Texas, or Bama?



Why can't they? They have a championship caliber defense that has gotten better as the season has gone along. They can also run the ball as good as anyone in the country.

Finish the sentence: "Defense wins ____."

Now, also understand that Rodemaker would likely start over Glenn in the postseason game(s). Rodemaker hasn't yet shown what he can do, but they are going to do everything to get him ready and they are going to have a gameplan. It's not all about the QB. Yes, it's a big deal, but what FSU has at all the other positions can compete with anybody.

Some of you are underestimating how good this Florida State TEAM is.

If they win this game, they should be in. It's a slap in the face to have an undefeated Power 5 conference champion out of the CFP. It's never been done before and it has to matter that they won every game on their schedule. All this BS about "they're not better than Ohio State, Alabama, or Texas," well, those teams lost a game, and they didn't play FSU, so it's just subjective conjecture. The '0' on the loss side of the W-L column, it has to matter.


Thread winner right here ☝🏽.

I don’t see it with McCarthy  
JoeyBigBlue : 12/2/2023 11:14 pm : link
He seems more athlete than QB. Not risking a first round pick on him.
RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16311417 allstarjim said:
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Some of you are underestimating how good this Florida State TEAM is.



They were a really good team. Without their Heisman candidate, they are hanging on to be a good team. It's just a bad break.

Are they a better team right NOW than Alabama, Texas, or Georgia? NFW.

RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:26 pm : link
In comment 16311423 bw in dc said:
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Some of you are underestimating how good this Florida State TEAM is.


All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.





They were a really good team. Without their Heisman candidate, they are hanging on to be a good team. It's just a bad break.

Are they a better team right NOW than Alabama, Texas, or Georgia? NFW.
RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:28 pm : link
In comment 16311424 Ceez2.0 said:
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Some of you are underestimating how good this Florida State TEAM is.


All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.





They were a really good team. Without their Heisman candidate, they are hanging on to be a good team. It's just a bad break.

Are they a better team right NOW than Alabama, Texas, or Georgia? NFW.




I fucked up the response.

All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:37 pm : link
In comment 16311425 Ceez2.0 said:
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All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.


So?

If Georgia played FSU right now, Georgia would be favored.

If Alabama played FSU right now, Alabama would be favored.

If Texas played FSU right now, Texas would be favored.

Why? The are better teams right now. And largely because FSU is missing their best offensive player.
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Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:40 pm : link
In comment 16311429 bw in dc said:
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All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.



So?

If Georgia played FSU right now, Georgia would be favored.

If Alabama played FSU right now, Alabama would be favored.

If Texas played FSU right now, Texas would be favored.

Why? The are better teams right now. And largely because FSU is missing their best offensive player.


Hella it’s….. what is a fact is the fucking Noles are undefeated and absolutely deserve to be a top 4 team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
section125 : 12/2/2023 11:40 pm : link
In comment 16311429 bw in dc said:
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All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.



So?

If Georgia played FSU right now, Georgia would be favored.

If Alabama played FSU right now, Alabama would be favored.

If Texas played FSU right now, Texas would be favored.

Why? The are better teams right now. And largely because FSU is missing their best offensive player.


If Rodemaker is at QB, and he will be, you need to re-assess your thinking.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:40 pm : link
In comment 16311430 Ceez2.0 said:
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All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.



So?

If Georgia played FSU right now, Georgia would be favored.

If Alabama played FSU right now, Alabama would be favored.

If Texas played FSU right now, Texas would be favored.

Why? The are better teams right now. And largely because FSU is missing their best offensive player.



Hella it’s….. what is a fact is the fucking Noles are undefeated and absolutely deserve to be a top 4 team.


It’s *
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:41 pm : link
In comment 16311432 Ceez2.0 said:
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All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.



So?

If Georgia played FSU right now, Georgia would be favored.

If Alabama played FSU right now, Alabama would be favored.

If Texas played FSU right now, Texas would be favored.

Why? The are better teams right now. And largely because FSU is missing their best offensive player.



Hella it’s….. what is a fact is the fucking Noles are undefeated and absolutely deserve to be a top 4 team.



It’s *


If’s lol
RE: …  
Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:42 pm : link
In comment 16311325 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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FSU ain’t winning.


Derp. 🤡
Committee has to do what it  
section125 : 12/2/2023 11:43 pm : link
has to do, but FSU just beat a top 14 team with their 3rd string QB.

BTW, how would Fiske look in Blue next year?

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:43 pm : link
In comment 16311430 Ceez2.0 said:
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Hella it’s….. what is a fact is the fucking Noles are undefeated and absolutely deserve to be a top 4 team.


They had a great year but suffered a horrible break at the wrong time.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
allstarjim : 12/2/2023 11:45 pm : link
In comment 16311429 bw in dc said:
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All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.



So?

If Georgia played FSU right now, Georgia would be favored.

If Alabama played FSU right now, Alabama would be favored.

If Texas played FSU right now, Texas would be favored.

Why? The are better teams right now. And largely because FSU is missing their best offensive player.


He's their most important offensive player. But he's arguably no better than the 3rd best offensive player. Keon Coleman and Trey Benson are better players on the offensive side. Arguably Toafili is better as well. That's no shade on Travis, either. But Coleman and Benson are studs.
RE: Committee has to do what it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:45 pm : link
In comment 16311436 section125 said:
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has to do, but FSU just beat a top 14 team with their 3rd string QB.

BTW, how would Fiske look in Blue next year?


Louisville last at home last week to 6-5 Kentucky.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
section125 : 12/2/2023 11:45 pm : link
In comment 16311437 bw in dc said:
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Hella it’s….. what is a fact is the fucking Noles are undefeated and absolutely deserve to be a top 4 team.



They had a great year but suffered a horrible break at the wrong time.


So you eliminate a team that is 13-0, ACC Champion and probably with the best defense in the NCAA?
RE: RE: Committee has to do what it  
section125 : 12/2/2023 11:46 pm : link
In comment 16311440 bw in dc said:
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has to do, but FSU just beat a top 14 team with their 3rd string QB.

BTW, how would Fiske look in Blue next year?




Louisville last at home last week to 6-5 Kentucky.


Louisville ranked #14....
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:47 pm : link
In comment 16311431 section125 said:
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If Rodemaker is at QB, and he will be, you need to re-assess your thinking.


You may have a point on a Texas match-up. I'm not changing on Bama and Georgia.

RE: RE: Committee has to do what it  
section125 : 12/2/2023 11:48 pm : link
In comment 16311440 bw in dc said:
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has to do, but FSU just beat a top 14 team with their 3rd string QB.

BTW, how would Fiske look in Blue next year?




Louisville last at home last week to 6-5 Kentucky.


And, what do you think this score would have been if Tate Rodemaker was playing?
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section125 : 12/2/2023 11:49 pm : link
In comment 16311443 bw in dc said:
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If Rodemaker is at QB, and he will be, you need to re-assess your thinking.



You may have a point on a Texas match-up. I'm not changing on Bama and Georgia.


Neither looked very good today. Bama won last week on a 4th and 31 TD Hail Mary.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:49 pm : link
In comment 16311441 section125 said:
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So you eliminate a team that is 13-0, ACC Champion and probably with the best defense in the NCAA?


I would, yes. It's an unfortunate call, but someone has to get left out.

Leaving out the SEC champ would be a very bad look.

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bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:50 pm : link
In comment 16311439 allstarjim said:
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He's their most important offensive player. But he's arguably no better than the 3rd best offensive player. Keon Coleman and Trey Benson are better players on the offensive side. Arguably Toafili is better as well. That's no shade on Travis, either. But Coleman and Benson are studs.


Okay, I buy that. Travis is their most important player - yes.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:52 pm : link
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Neither looked very good today. Bama won last week on a 4th and 31 TD Hail Mary.


Yeah, that rivalry game is always crazy. Of course, Georgia also had to rally to beat Auburn as well. They were on the ropes...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:53 pm : link
In comment 16311446 bw in dc said:
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So you eliminate a team that is 13-0, ACC Champion and probably with the best defense in the NCAA?



I would, yes. It's an unfortunate call, but someone has to get left out.

Leaving out the SEC champ would be a very bad look.


Why because it’s the SEC. lol. Again, foh.
RE: RE: RE: Committee has to do what it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:54 pm : link
In comment 16311444 section125 said:
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And, what do you think this score would have been if Tate Rodemaker was playing?


Tonight? I don't know. He looked awful against Florida.
Washington, Michigan, fsu, and Texas.  
Ceez2.0 : 12/2/2023 11:55 pm : link
That should be the top 4
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section125 : 12/2/2023 11:55 pm : link
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So you eliminate a team that is 13-0, ACC Champion and probably with the best defense in the NCAA?



I would, yes. It's an unfortunate call, but someone has to get left out.

Leaving out the SEC champ would be a very bad look.


Why? Georgia lost and Alabama was ranked 8th coming in today. FSU was 4th and beat the #14 team. In a regular week, neither would be ranked ahead of FSU would they.

As I have been saying, Brock Glenn will not be QB a month from now and Rodemaker will be and have a month to practice.

I do absolutely believe that FSU is going to get screwed because they lost their #1 and #2 QBs on back to back weeks. I do think they will move Alabama to #4 and put FSU at #5 or #6.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
Eman11 : 12/2/2023 11:56 pm : link
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If Rodemaker is at QB, and he will be, you need to re-assess your thinking.



You may have a point on a Texas match-up. I'm not changing on Bama and Georgia.




Neither looked very good today. Bama won last week on a 4th and 31 TD Hail Mary.


It wasn’t exactly a Hail Mary. They didn’t throw it up into a pack and hope their guy comes down with it.

It’s a play they prepare for and actually practice. Sure it was a near miracle to pull off but they ran it to perfection and made the play.

Biggest F up was Auburn only rushing two and keeping a spy on Milroe. He wasn’t going to scramble 31 yds for the score.
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section125 : 12/2/2023 11:57 pm : link
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And, what do you think this score would have been if Tate Rodemaker was playing?



Tonight? I don't know. He looked awful against Florida.


They won 24-15 AT UF and were only a 6 point favorite.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
bw in dc : 12/2/2023 11:58 pm : link
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Why because it’s the SEC. lol. Again, foh.


Yes, because it's the best conference in the country. It's the gold standard. This isn't your best argument.

Look, this is what happens when you don't have an automatic qualifier system. It's a selection process.
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section125 : 12/2/2023 11:59 pm : link
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If Rodemaker is at QB, and he will be, you need to re-assess your thinking.



You may have a point on a Texas match-up. I'm not changing on Bama and Georgia.




Neither looked very good today. Bama won last week on a 4th and 31 TD Hail Mary.



It wasn’t exactly a Hail Mary. They didn’t throw it up into a pack and hope their guy comes down with it.

It’s a play they prepare for and actually practice. Sure it was a near miracle to pull off but they ran it to perfection and made the play.

Biggest F up was Auburn only rushing two and keeping a spy on Milroe. He wasn’t going to scramble 31 yds for the score.


Nit Picky but technically you are correct, but a chuck to the back of the endzone with the DB standing there is damn near a Hail Mary.
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bw in dc : 12/3/2023 12:01 am : link
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They won 24-15 AT UF and were only a 6 point favorite.


You asked me what kind of impact - or suggested such - if Rodemaker played tonight.

Well, he wasn't good at Gainsville. I'm not sure why I should think he would suddenly get much better for tonight's game...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FSU should not be in it  
Ceez2.0 : 12/3/2023 12:03 am : link
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Why because it’s the SEC. lol. Again, foh.



Yes, because it's the best conference in the country. It's the gold standard. This isn't your best argument.

Look, this is what happens when you don't have an automatic qualifier system. It's a selection process.


Ok, we’ll agree to disagree. Time will tell soon enough. Peace and love.
I could see a curve ball tomorrow...  
bw in dc : 12/3/2023 12:04 am : link
by the Selection Committee.

I could see a sympathy vote for FSU, but Bama getting in over Texas.

And they eschew the H2H outcome by saying Bama looks like the better team NOW.

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section125 : 12/3/2023 12:06 am : link
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They won 24-15 AT UF and were only a 6 point favorite.



You asked me what kind of impact - or suggested such - if Rodemaker played tonight.

Well, he wasn't good at Gainsville. I'm not sure why I should think he would suddenly get much better for tonight's game...


Because he would have had another week to practice and Norvell probably doesn't call such a conservative game. Basically Norvell did nothing offensively in the 1st half of that game.
I honestly think it will be:  
section125 : 12/3/2023 12:09 am : link
1.) Michigan
2.) Washington
3.) Alabama
4.) Texas

5.) Georgia
6.) FSU
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JT039 : 12/3/2023 12:10 am : link
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1.) Michigan
2.) Washington
3.) Alabama
4.) Texas

5.) Georgia
6.) FSU


This
RE: I could see a curve ball tomorrow...  
Eman11 : 12/3/2023 12:11 am : link
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by the Selection Committee.

I could see a sympathy vote for FSU, but Bama getting in over Texas.

And they eschew the H2H outcome by saying Bama looks like the better team NOW.


I could’ve seen that too before today but Texas was really impressive. If they skated by in a nail biter I’d feel differently but they put on a show for the Nation and committee today.

I think FSU is on the outside looking in tomorrow.
13-0 is in.  
BigBlueBuff : 12/3/2023 12:13 am : link
It's really a shame that such great teams in Austin and Tuscaloosa lost a game. Better luck next time.
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ajr2456 : 12/3/2023 12:16 am : link
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All those teams have 1 loss. Assuming FSU holds on to win with their true freshman 3rd string QB. lol come on man. Foh.



So?

If Georgia played FSU right now, Georgia would be favored.

If Alabama played FSU right now, Alabama would be favored.

If Texas played FSU right now, Texas would be favored.

Why? The are better teams right now. And largely because FSU is missing their best offensive player.


Oregon was favored by 10 last night. Georgia was favored over Alabama. What does that mean.

Does anyone actually think this FSU defense is getting blown out by anyone?
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bw in dc : 12/3/2023 12:22 am : link
In comment 16311467 ajr2456 said:
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Oregon was favored by 10 last night. Georgia was favored over Alabama. What does that mean.

Does anyone actually think this FSU defense is getting blown out by anyone?


The lines of those theoretical games are completely different if Travis is healthy.

I don't think FSU would get blown out. But I don't think they are a real threat on offense anymore, especially against one on of these F4 teams...
Points were made.  
Ceez2.0 : 12/3/2023 12:23 am : link
Pay attention.
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FSU cannot be in the playoff without Jordan Travis.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/3/2023 12:26 am : link
It sucks, but I don’t know how you can consider them better than the other possible options without him.

Michigan
Washington
Texas
Alabama
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section125 : 12/3/2023 12:26 am : link
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Oregon was favored by 10 last night. Georgia was favored over Alabama. What does that mean.

Does anyone actually think this FSU defense is getting blown out by anyone?



The lines of those theoretical games are completely different if Travis is healthy.

I don't think FSU would get blown out. But I don't think they are a real threat on offense anymore, especially against one on of these F4 teams...


Right now if they had Travis, I think they could beat anybody. Nobody looks THAT good. Georgia's offense was terrible today. I truly is a damn shame.
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