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JT039 : 12/1/2023 5:57 am
Oregon vs Washington tonight. Oregon is the better team right now. Washington clipped them earlier. Should be a fun matchup with Penix and Nix slinging it. Lot of good WRs as well.

Here’s a hypothetical scenario. You’re winners this weekend:
Washington
Michigan
FSU
Bama
Texas

If this is this case - No SEC in the final 4? Hmmmm
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RE: In football  
speedywheels : 12/1/2023 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16310502 GiantGrit said:
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Sometimes it gets away from you and it happens quickly. And it felt that way from the jump for Oregon. The spread for this game was ridiculous, Washington clearly came in very disrespected.

I really thought Oregon was going to win, shows what I know.

Lol


As a UO fan, i thought the the spread was waaaaay too high
This drive  
Amtoft : 12/1/2023 9:40 pm : link
is what Oregon has looked like all year
The RT for Oregon  
RCPhoenix : 12/1/2023 9:41 pm : link
Looks like he’s on skates
RE: RE: In football  
Dennis : 12/1/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16310507 speedywheels said:
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Sometimes it gets away from you and it happens quickly. And it felt that way from the jump for Oregon. The spread for this game was ridiculous, Washington clearly came in very disrespected.

I really thought Oregon was going to win, shows what I know.

Lol



As a UO fan, i thought the the spread was waaaaay too high


It's still entirely possible that the 2nd half could be the mirror image of the 1st half.
With the PI call, it could all change now!\
That’s an awful penalty  
JT039 : 12/1/2023 9:42 pm : link
Holy shit. That’s pathetic.
RE: Nix has been on the money  
speedywheels : 12/1/2023 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16310505 Mike from Ohio said:
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And making good decisions so far. I just don’t love the lack of mobility, injury history and his mechanics. He looks to my untrained eye like an arm thrower.


He actually has good mobility. Injury history is not an issue. Mechanics? I’ll leave that to thr experts.
Nix looks like a poor man Daniel Jones  
bigbluewillrise : 12/1/2023 9:43 pm : link
lol
What a grab  
ajr2456 : 12/1/2023 9:43 pm : link
Bailed out lannings decision to run. If Oregon can get a Td out of half we have a game
Great catch and response  
JT039 : 12/1/2023 9:43 pm : link
But man that penalty saved that drive.
RE: That’s an awful penalty  
bw in dc : 12/1/2023 9:43 pm : link
In comment 16310513 JT039 said:
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Holy shit. That’s pathetic.


Ratings...
see....  
Amtoft : 12/1/2023 9:43 pm : link
can't count them out... Nix is better than people say and they are a good team. Man I hope Washington can pull this out.
Great play by Oregon!  
Dennis : 12/1/2023 9:43 pm : link
There you go Speedy, it may have all changed right there.
Great drive by Oregon  
RCPhoenix : 12/1/2023 9:44 pm : link
Nix certainly looked the part on that drive
To be fair  
speedywheels : 12/1/2023 9:44 pm : link
That PI call was weak
fucking ref changes the game  
gtt350 : 12/1/2023 9:44 pm : link
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That’s a good PI call  
Sammo85 : 12/1/2023 9:44 pm : link
Muhammad interfered for like 10 seconds, lol. Oregon targeted him in first game and abused him. Need to do it more in second half.
RE: Nix looks like a poor man Daniel Jones  
RCPhoenix : 12/1/2023 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16310515 bigbluewillrise said:
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lol


Jones could never have made that TD throw
Bo Nix  
Amtoft : 12/1/2023 9:45 pm : link
looks good for a 55 year old
RE: To be fair  
Sammo85 : 12/1/2023 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16310522 speedywheels said:
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That PI call was weak


You can’t impede a receiver like that. Period.
RE: RE: Nix looks like a poor man Daniel Jones  
Amtoft : 12/1/2023 9:45 pm : link
In comment 16310525 RCPhoenix said:
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lol



Jones could never have made that TD throw


He could make that throw, we just wouldn't have caught it and someone would have pulled a hammy on the play.
Impressive drive by Oregon  
Mike from Ohio : 12/1/2023 9:46 pm : link
Nix seems to have all the tools and intangibles. I can see him going mid-first to mid-second round.
RE: To be fair  
Dennis : 12/1/2023 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16310522 speedywheels said:
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That PI call was weak


Oregon could have totally lost it's composure, and it could have been a blowout. Got to credit Lannings for keeping things together until something broke for the better.
RE: see....  
GiantGrit : 12/1/2023 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16310519 Amtoft said:
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can't count them out... Nix is better than people say and they are a good team. Man I hope Washington can pull this out.


Some of the critiques here on him I just flat out don't agree with. But what do I know.
RE: That’s a good PI call  
MookGiants : 12/1/2023 9:46 pm : link
In comment 16310524 Sammo85 said:
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Muhammad interfered for like 10 seconds, lol. Oregon targeted him in first game and abused him. Need to do it more in second half.



That's not PI. Receiver engaged as well and he absolutely gave up on the play. Play on. The booth official was spot on.
RE: Nix has been on the money  
Mike from Ohio : 12/1/2023 9:47 pm : link
In comment 16310505 Mike from Ohio said:
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And making good decisions so far. I just don’t love the lack of mobility, injury history and his mechanics. He looks to my untrained eye like an arm thrower.


I meant Penix, not Nix.
RE: That’s a good PI call  
bw in dc : 12/1/2023 9:47 pm : link
In comment 16310524 Sammo85 said:
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Muhammad interfered for like 10 seconds, lol. Oregon targeted him in first game and abused him. Need to do it more in second half.


He's very handsy.
RE: Impressive drive by Oregon  
MookGiants : 12/1/2023 9:47 pm : link
In comment 16310529 Mike from Ohio said:
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Nix seems to have all the tools and intangibles. I can see him going mid-first to mid-second round.


I think he's going to go 2nd round. I want no part of him for the Giants though. He doesn't have all of the tools. There's not one tool in his toolbox thats elite. Intangibles i'll give you
RE: RE: see....  
Amtoft : 12/1/2023 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16310531 GiantGrit said:
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can't count them out... Nix is better than people say and they are a good team. Man I hope Washington can pull this out.



Some of the critiques here on him I just flat out don't agree with. But what do I know.


I think the problem is two fold... 1) he isn't great at any one thing. average to good at everything but not great... 2) he sucked when he was thrown in on a crappy Auburn team and it is tough for people to forget.
RE: RE: Nix has been on the money  
Dennis : 12/1/2023 9:48 pm : link
In comment 16310533 Mike from Ohio said:
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And making good decisions so far. I just don’t love the lack of mobility, injury history and his mechanics. He looks to my untrained eye like an arm thrower.



I meant Penix, not Nix.


Mike, I agree. I have the same concerns about Penix.
RE: RE: That’s a good PI call  
Sammo85 : 12/1/2023 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16310532 MookGiants said:
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Muhammad interfered for like 10 seconds, lol. Oregon targeted him in first game and abused him. Need to do it more in second half.




That's not PI. Receiver engaged as well and he absolutely gave up on the play. Play on. The booth official was spot on.


You cannot impede a receiver on a route and hold him. It’s textbook interference.
RE: RE: Impressive drive by Oregon  
Dennis : 12/1/2023 9:50 pm : link
In comment 16310535 MookGiants said:
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Nix seems to have all the tools and intangibles. I can see him going mid-first to mid-second round.



I think he's going to go 2nd round. I want no part of him for the Giants though. He doesn't have all of the tools. There's not one tool in his toolbox thats elite. Intangibles i'll give you


+1. I'm a UW homer, but I don't want him for the Giants either, for the same reasons. He's a really good college QB, but not in the NFL.
Penix looks way better than Nix  
gtt350 : 12/1/2023 9:50 pm : link
reads the field well, is accurate and has arm strength.
Heading out..  
Amtoft : 12/1/2023 9:50 pm : link
enjoy the last of the Pac-12... Two great teams and this could be another close finish... Go Washington because my Aunt is there and a huge fan, so have to root for them.
RE: That’s an awful penalty  
section125 : 12/1/2023 9:51 pm : link
In comment 16310513 JT039 said:
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Holy shit. That’s pathetic.


Yeah, like I said earlier on the throw Nix was a little behind the WR, that is going to be called in the NFL. I guess you missed the right hand grabbing the shoulder pad?

And yes it is possible it will not be called, but when a DB grabs shoulder pads....

Understand I don't care for either team and Oregon a little less..
RE: Heading out..  
Dennis : 12/1/2023 9:52 pm : link
In comment 16310544 Amtoft said:
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enjoy the last of the Pac-12... Two great teams and this could be another close finish... Go Washington because my Aunt is there and a huge fan, so have to root for them.


I lived in Seattle, near the UW for 40 years. Hello to your Aunt.
RE: RE: Impressive drive by Oregon  
GiantGrit : 12/1/2023 9:52 pm : link
In comment 16310535 MookGiants said:
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Nix seems to have all the tools and intangibles. I can see him going mid-first to mid-second round.



I think he's going to go 2nd round. I want no part of him for the Giants though. He doesn't have all of the tools. There's not one tool in his toolbox thats elite. Intangibles i'll give you


So I get this point but then I see guys like Jalen Hurts and Brock Purdy succeeding and it makes me second guess. I had the same thoughts on Jalen Hurts coming out, what does he do that's elite?

The thing with Nix is, to me, he has enough of everything physically. Can he run an NFL offense is my biggest question mark with him.
RE: RE: RE: That’s a good PI call  
MookGiants : 12/1/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16310540 Sammo85 said:
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Muhammad interfered for like 10 seconds, lol. Oregon targeted him in first game and abused him. Need to do it more in second half.




That's not PI. Receiver engaged as well and he absolutely gave up on the play. Play on. The booth official was spot on.



You cannot impede a receiver on a route and hold him. It’s textbook interference.


Yes, you know more than the official in the booth.

That was a "we need 20-10 at halftime" call
RE: Penix looks way better than Nix  
section125 : 12/1/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16310543 gtt350 said:
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reads the field well, is accurate and has arm strength.


Hmmm..they are different QBs for sure.
RE: RE: Impressive drive by Oregon  
bw in dc : 12/1/2023 9:54 pm : link
In comment 16310535 MookGiants said:
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Nix seems to have all the tools and intangibles. I can see him going mid-first to mid-second round.



I think he's going to go 2nd round. I want no part of him for the Giants though. He doesn't have all of the tools. There's not one tool in his toolbox thats elite. Intangibles i'll give you


I've never been enamored with him, either. And I've tried.
RE: RE: RE: Impressive drive by Oregon  
MookGiants : 12/1/2023 9:54 pm : link
In comment 16310550 GiantGrit said:
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Nix seems to have all the tools and intangibles. I can see him going mid-first to mid-second round.



I think he's going to go 2nd round. I want no part of him for the Giants though. He doesn't have all of the tools. There's not one tool in his toolbox thats elite. Intangibles i'll give you



So I get this point but then I see guys like Jalen Hurts and Brock Purdy succeeding and it makes me second guess. I had the same thoughts on Jalen Hurts coming out, what does he do that's elite?

The thing with Nix is, to me, he has enough of everything physically. Can he run an NFL offense is my biggest question mark with him.


Hurts has a better arm than Nix will ever have and is an elite runner and has elite size. He also didn't go in the first round because of some concerns but Nix is more like Mariota than he is Hurts
RE: RE: RE: RE: That’s a good PI call  
Sammo85 : 12/1/2023 9:56 pm : link
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Muhammad interfered for like 10 seconds, lol. Oregon targeted him in first game and abused him. Need to do it more in second half.




That's not PI. Receiver engaged as well and he absolutely gave up on the play. Play on. The booth official was spot on.



You cannot impede a receiver on a route and hold him. It’s textbook interference.



Yes, you know more than the official in the booth.

That was a "we need 20-10 at halftime" call


It’s a rule. You don’t have to like it but it was called correctly.



Fair point  
GiantGrit : 12/1/2023 9:57 pm : link
On Hurts' running. That was an elite trait. I didn't see it with him as a passer. I personally don't think Hurts' arm is that much stronger, if at all. But if you're looking for a guy with an elite trait, which is definitely a prerequisite for a top 15 pick, it isn't Nix.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: That’s a good PI call  
MookGiants : 12/1/2023 10:05 pm : link
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Muhammad interfered for like 10 seconds, lol. Oregon targeted him in first game and abused him. Need to do it more in second half.




That's not PI. Receiver engaged as well and he absolutely gave up on the play. Play on. The booth official was spot on.



You cannot impede a receiver on a route and hold him. It’s textbook interference.



Yes, you know more than the official in the booth.

That was a "we need 20-10 at halftime" call



It’s a rule. You don’t have to like it but it was called correctly.




You got it. You clearly know the rule better than the guy who was an official for decades that espn pays to analyze these things. Sorry for doubting you
RE: RE: Impressive drive by Oregon  
Mike from Ohio : 12/1/2023 10:05 pm : link
In comment 16310535 MookGiants said:
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Nix seems to have all the tools and intangibles. I can see him going mid-first to mid-second round.



I think he's going to go 2nd round. I want no part of him for the Giants though. He doesn't have all of the tools. There's not one tool in his toolbox thats elite. Intangibles i'll give you


QBs get overdrafted and a lot of teams need QBs which is why I put him as a possibility in the middle of the 1st.

I don’t know that the next QB has to be elite at anything if he is good at everything. He seems smart which to me is the most necessary tool. I think he can make the throws you need. His arm is not a wow, but it is strong enough.

Gun to my head, if I had to take one of these guys for the Giants it would be Nix. Penix is a better passer, but just too many other concerns. I think Nix has a better NFL career if he ends up in the right situation (which later picks often do).
So why wasn’t it Offensive PI too  
JT039 : 12/1/2023 10:08 pm : link
The WR clearly grabbbed the defender.

There was no infraction or impediment. They both stopped and it was overthrown. Terrible terrible call.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: That’s a good PI call  
speedywheels : 12/1/2023 10:09 pm : link
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Muhammad interfered for like 10 seconds, lol. Oregon targeted him in first game and abused him. Need to do it more in second half.




That's not PI. Receiver engaged as well and he absolutely gave up on the play. Play on. The booth official was spot on.



You cannot impede a receiver on a route and hold him. It’s textbook interference.



Yes, you know more than the official in the booth.

That was a "we need 20-10 at halftime" call



It’s a rule. You don’t have to like it but it was called correctly.






You got it. You clearly know the rule better than the guy who was an official for decades that espn pays to analyze these things. Sorry for doubting you


And I’m sure had that been a call against ND, your opinion would be the same.

🙄
RE: RE: RE: Impressive drive by Oregon  
Sammo85 : 12/1/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16310563 Mike from Ohio said:
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Nix seems to have all the tools and intangibles. I can see him going mid-first to mid-second round.



I think he's going to go 2nd round. I want no part of him for the Giants though. He doesn't have all of the tools. There's not one tool in his toolbox thats elite. Intangibles i'll give you



QBs get overdrafted and a lot of teams need QBs which is why I put him as a possibility in the middle of the 1st.

I don’t know that the next QB has to be elite at anything if he is good at everything. He seems smart which to me is the most necessary tool. I think he can make the throws you need. His arm is not a wow, but it is strong enough.

Gun to my head, if I had to take one of these guys for the Giants it would be Nix. Penix is a better passer, but just too many other concerns. I think Nix has a better NFL career if he ends up in the right situation (which later picks often do).


Penix health is such a yellow flag. He’s one knee injury away from being in the waiting line for needing a new knee. The one shoulder injury he had scares me too.
I've got money on Oregon ML live  
MookGiants : 12/1/2023 10:11 pm : link
so that call benefitted me. It was just a bad call.

Had the receiver tried to actually go by him and not totally give up on the play, it would have deserved a flag.
RE: So why wasn’t it Offensive PI too  
speedywheels : 12/1/2023 10:11 pm : link
In comment 16310566 JT039 said:
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The WR clearly grabbbed the defender.

There was no infraction or impediment. They both stopped and it was overthrown. Terrible terrible call.


Yes it was. But that’s what happens sometimes.
and these booth officials  
MookGiants : 12/1/2023 10:11 pm : link
ALWAYS error on the side of agreeing with the officials call. When in doubt they always give the officials the benefit of the doubt
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