It's not the route I would take, but have seen multiple articles now potentially linking Harbaugh to the Bears, should they decide to move on from Eberflus.
It's a complete change at HC and QB....a fresh start for Chicago.
The slight twist is that it is being rumored that Harbaugh would want McCarthy as his QB, not one of the presumed tope 3 QB prospects (Williams, Maye, or Daniels).
In addition to the linked article, I saw Diana Russini quoted as similar in Sports Illustrated yesterday with a similar story.
That would certainly create a curveball, and opportunity should the Giants be looking to move up.
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not a 22-24 year old in his 4th, 5th, 6th year.
he has a chance to make himself a lot of money this postseason.
If McCarthy was on say Oklahoma State or any good, but not great DIV 1 program, he'd be a projected 4th rounder.
He makes some good plays, but his accuracy and decision making at times is dreadful.
I'm not quite sure I see the potential that a Caleb, Maye, or even Jayden Daniels has in McCarthy. Someone will take a shot on him, but I fully expect him to be a backup in the NFL.
If he somehow becomes Justin Herbert, I'll gladly eat my words and prediction, but I don't see it in him.
Harbaugh is notorious for this.
Trading the 32nd pick in the draft for Chase Claypool ... he's lucky to still be employed.
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Trading the 32nd pick in the draft for Chase Claypool ... he's lucky to still be employed.
Agreed - jury still out too on the trade/asset buildup (he may not even get to enjoy it) to reformulate roster.
I'd like him better if he somehow wound up in a situation that pushed Williams/Maye/Daniels to us.
If it's true this time (including the JJ preference) then the Bears could get a big haul for trading out of the #1 spot to a team in the 4-8 range like... the GIANTS!
I'd give up a lot for the Giants to have their choice of Williams or Maye. Maybe even a 1, both 2s and a 1 next year.
If McCarthy was on say Oklahoma State or any good, but not great DIV 1 program, he'd be a projected 4th rounder.
He makes some good plays, but his accuracy and decision making at times is dreadful.
I'm not quite sure I see the potential that a Caleb, Maye, or even Jayden Daniels has in McCarthy. Someone will take a shot on him, but I fully expect him to be a backup in the NFL.
If he somehow becomes Justin Herbert, I'll gladly eat my words and prediction, but I don't see it in him.
a lot of this could have (and was) written about russell wilson even after he was succeeding in seattle for a while. tua too.
i totally understand and agree that mccarthy doesn't have the electric skills players like herbert/kyler/caleb/maye have, but in the league today QBs are more point guard than anything else. they are distributors who need to make good decisions. not necessarily highlight machines with crazy raw talent. that's why bryce young went ahead of stroud/richardson.
the most critical piece of his eval for nfl coaches will be his decision making, and if they like they will like him if they dont they wont. harbaugh seems to be a fan and he accomplished more in the nfl than most of the coaches who will be evaluating though so if he's happy im inclined to think it will be a selling point to nfl coaches too.
If McCarthy was on say Oklahoma State or any good, but not great DIV 1 program, he'd be a projected 4th rounder.
He makes some good plays, but his accuracy and decision making at times is dreadful.
I'm not quite sure I see the potential that a Caleb, Maye, or even Jayden Daniels has in McCarthy. Someone will take a shot on him, but I fully expect him to be a backup in the NFL.
If he somehow becomes Justin Herbert, I'll gladly eat my words and prediction, but I don't see it in him.
McCarthy has improved his accuracy. His completion% is 75%. So, that's noteworthy.
And his only poor game was against Maryland where he was dreadful. On the other hand, Michigan's early season schedule was laughable and the Big Ten is way down this year. So, I'm not sure what to make of Michigan as a team.
But I agree that he's nothing special. Good athlete, good mobility. After that? I'm not sure what he brings to the table that makes you fond of his prospects.
You could make a case he's more a by-product of Harbaugh's system and a very good game manager at the college level.
If McCarthy was on say Oklahoma State or any good, but not great DIV 1 program, he'd be a projected 4th rounder.
He makes some good plays, but his accuracy and decision making at times is dreadful.
I'm not quite sure I see the potential that a Caleb, Maye, or even Jayden Daniels has in McCarthy. Someone will take a shot on him, but I fully expect him to be a backup in the NFL.
If he somehow becomes Justin Herbert, I'll gladly eat my words and prediction, but I don't see it in him.
Couldn't disagree more. It's funny, people talking about QB's like Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, Penox, and even Justin Herbert, these are all QB's who played 5 years in college. McCarthy has only played 3, and has looked very good. I think his best ball is ahead of him.
If it's true this time (including the JJ preference) then the Bears could get a big haul for trading out of the #1 spot to a team in the 4-8 range like... the GIANTS!
I'd give up a lot for the Giants to have their choice of Williams or Maye. Maybe even a 1, both 2s and a 1 next year.
Yeah, I get that it's another year/another rumor about JH. The difference this year is that he has been suspended twice in one season, and likely is facing additional punishment if he stays at UM. If they win tomorrow, he'll have had his team in the playoffs 3 years in a row....it's likely not going to get much better for him.
It really feels like his time at UM is coming to an end in another 30-40 days.
McCarthy has improved his accuracy. His completion% is 75%. So, that's noteworthy.
And his only poor game was against Maryland where he was dreadful. On the other hand, Michigan's early season schedule was laughable and the Big Ten is way down this year. So, I'm not sure what to make of Michigan as a team.
But I agree that he's nothing special. Good athlete, good mobility. After that? I'm not sure what he brings to the table that makes you fond of his prospects.
You could make a case he's more a by-product of Harbaugh's system and a very good game manager at the college level.
I think McCarthy has a plus arm. I think its very underrated and that we just dont see it a lot.
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McCarthy has improved his accuracy. His completion% is 75%. So, that's noteworthy.
And his only poor game was against Maryland where he was dreadful. On the other hand, Michigan's early season schedule was laughable and the Big Ten is way down this year. So, I'm not sure what to make of Michigan as a team.
But I agree that he's nothing special. Good athlete, good mobility. After that? I'm not sure what he brings to the table that makes you fond of his prospects.
You could make a case he's more a by-product of Harbaugh's system and a very good game manager at the college level.
I think McCarthy has a plus arm. I think its very underrated and that we just dont see it a lot.
I've seen him fire it. But it looks like his body is going to fall off after he uncoils. I just don't see a naturally gifted thrower that has natural zip.
I've seen him fire it. But it looks like his body is going to fall off after he uncoils. I just don't see a naturally gifted thrower that has natural zip.
I can see that. My biggest worry is that he always tries to fire it. He needs to learn the touch throws and deep shots downfield. He doesnt have to throw the fast ball every time to get there.
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I've gotten to watch a lot of the Wolverines in person (unfortunately), and McCarthy is one of those guys like Sam Ehlinger, Jake Fromm, Josh Rosen and honestly Bo Nix that are severely overrated based on the quality teams they have played for.
If McCarthy was on say Oklahoma State or any good, but not great DIV 1 program, he'd be a projected 4th rounder.
He makes some good plays, but his accuracy and decision making at times is dreadful.
I'm not quite sure I see the potential that a Caleb, Maye, or even Jayden Daniels has in McCarthy. Someone will take a shot on him, but I fully expect him to be a backup in the NFL.
If he somehow becomes Justin Herbert, I'll gladly eat my words and prediction, but I don't see it in him.
a lot of this could have (and was) written about russell wilson even after he was succeeding in seattle for a while. tua too.
i totally understand and agree that mccarthy doesn't have the electric skills players like herbert/kyler/caleb/maye have, but in the league today QBs are more point guard than anything else. they are distributors who need to make good decisions. not necessarily highlight machines with crazy raw talent. that's why bryce young went ahead of stroud/richardson.
Agreed, there is something to be said about decision making ability and game management. But the QBs whose games are really built around this and nothing else are not first or early second round guys. You draft 1st round QBs for upside.
McCarthy could be a solid starter one day down the line. I just prefer drafting guys with higher upside rather than the guys who might be more refined coming right out of the draft.
With a good QB coach and an offensive minded HC, you can turn a raw athlete like Josh Allen, Lamar, Anthony Richardson into a weapon in 2-3 years.
McCarthy is kind of akin to a Kirk Cousins, where nothing wows you but does his job. In a highly drafted QB, I eventually expect to do more than just "doing his job".
Sure, there is something to be said about the "bustability" of a raw QB, but the ones who develop end up like Josh Allen.
I doubt anyone will take him super early, but who knows, we fucking took Jones at 6. This is a guy you don't trade up in the early stages of the draft to get is what I'm getting at.
In fact, if he didn't have a horrible injury history, Penix is the Tua of this draft.
Penix reminds me so much of Tua it's almost unfathomable.
Only thing was that Tua played a lot of good defenses in the SEC and Penix plays in the PAC-10
Especially if he wins the CFB championship, he is already packing his bags for Chicago.
What will be interesting is if the NFL does anything suspension wise if the NCAA comes down hard on Michigan after the season.
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Add Dennis Erickson to this list as well.