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Sky King : 12/2/2023 7:37 pm
I say(if Michigan and FSU win):

Michigan
Washington
Texas
FSU

If FSU loses, sub in Bama.

Michigan will not lose.
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RE: RE: RE: FSU had to show something at back up QB  
section125 : 12/3/2023 12:39 pm : link
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they had to.

they did not.

if they showed they had something on offense theyd be in ala a cardale jones situation.




They won with the third string freshman QB who had 5 practices. They beat the #14 team in the country. It was ugly but they won.




they won and he threw for 50 yards.


What part of freshman QB with 5 practices can you not comprehend.
Total scumbag maneuver no matter how it is packaged.
At least the committee  
ajr2456 : 12/3/2023 12:39 pm : link
Admits they have no credibility going forward
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2023 12:40 pm : link
Said it earlier: the committee would run over their grandmother to get 'Bama in.
RE: ...  
markky : 12/3/2023 12:40 pm : link
In comment 16311734 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Said it earlier: the committee would run over their grandmother to get 'Bama in.


you were right
RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/3/2023 12:41 pm : link
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matter. WTF.


Jordan Travis was a major part of why they were one of the best teams in the country.
The way this played out, even if Georgia won  
BH28 : 12/3/2023 12:43 pm : link
It seems like Texas would have jumped FSU for the final spot in that scenario too.
RE: ...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/3/2023 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16311734 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Said it earlier: the committee would run over their grandmother to get 'Bama in.



That has nothing to do with this decision.

If Jordan Travis is healthy and Bama was chosen over Texas, then you could argue this point.
As an FSU fan - I’m sick  
Vin R : 12/3/2023 12:44 pm : link
No CFP because of our QB situation.. but let’s forget how dominant this defense has been
Committee got it right...  
bw in dc : 12/3/2023 12:44 pm : link
but this is just a terrible situation for FSU.

I wish the expansion was this year instead of next.

Didn't the ACC vote not to have he expansion this year? JFC, that would be ironic...
RE: The way this played out, even if Georgia won  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/3/2023 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16311741 BH28 said:
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It seems like Texas would have jumped FSU for the final spot in that scenario too.


Exactly.
RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't  
section125 : 12/3/2023 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16311736 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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matter. WTF.



Jordan Travis was a major part of why they were one of the best teams in the country.


That is part of it, and the defense wasn't?
RE: At least the committee  
GaryR : 12/3/2023 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16311733 ajr2456 said:
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Admits they have no credibility going forward


It gets easier for the committee next year with 12 teams. Fans will be arguing about # 13, 14 and 15.
RE: RE: ...  
markky : 12/3/2023 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16311743 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Said it earlier: the committee would run over their grandmother to get 'Bama in.




That has nothing to do with this decision.

If Jordan Travis is healthy and Bama was chosen over Texas, then you could argue this point.


they're getting their 2nd string QB back before the playoffs. So we're just saying he can't drive the offense with a few weeks of practicing witht he first team. this is weak.

i guess this opens the door to the NFL bouncing teams from the playoffs if their QB gets hurt in the first round and replacing them with a team with a healthy QB.
shockeyisthebest.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2023 12:46 pm : link
If it had come down to Texas vs. Bama, I still think the Tide gets in regardless of their head to head matchup in September in Tuscaloosa.

The committee loves-LOVES-'Bama. That is obvious AF to me & has been for awhile.
RE: Committee got it right...  
section125 : 12/3/2023 12:47 pm : link
In comment 16311745 bw in dc said:
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but this is just a terrible situation for FSU.

I wish the expansion was this year instead of next.

Didn't the ACC vote not to have he expansion this year? JFC, that would be ironic...


Total scumbag maneuver. They just shit on kids that played their ass off. They took the #4 team, that won their conference title and took teams rated behind them before the weekend and jumped two teams over them.

FSU shold tell the NCAA and their 40 bowls to go fuck themselves.
RE: RE: Committee got it right...  
markky : 12/3/2023 12:49 pm : link
In comment 16311759 section125 said:
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but this is just a terrible situation for FSU.

I wish the expansion was this year instead of next.

Didn't the ACC vote not to have he expansion this year? JFC, that would be ironic...



Total scumbag maneuver. They just shit on kids that played their ass off. They took the #4 team, that won their conference title and took teams rated behind them before the weekend and jumped two teams over them.

FSU shold tell the NCAA and their 40 bowls to go fuck themselves.


exactly. and I am not an FSU fan. but to screw the kids like this is bullshit.
RE: RE: Committee got it right...  
bw in dc : 12/3/2023 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16311759 section125 said:
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but this is just a terrible situation for FSU.

I wish the expansion was this year instead of next.

Didn't the ACC vote not to have he expansion this year? JFC, that would be ironic...



Total scumbag maneuver. They just shit on kids that played their ass off. They took the #4 team, that won their conference title and took teams rated behind them before the weekend and jumped two teams over them.

FSU shold tell the NCAA and their 40 bowls to go fuck themselves.


I get it. It's a very tough pill to swallow if you are an FSU supporter.
I didn't see anyway they were  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/3/2023 12:52 pm : link
leaving Bama out if they beat Georgia and they did.

What a great season FSU had and I hope the school and the community do something really nice for them.

Some teams have gotten in who probably shouldn't have and vice versa. Very unfortunate for FSU and I certainly understand and respect those who felt they got screwed.

I still hope they get to 16 with every conference champion in one day.

Going to 12 teams is irrelevant  
ajr2456 : 12/3/2023 12:53 pm : link
The sport lost all credibility
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2023 12:54 pm : link
Feel bad for the Noles, as much as I can for FSU considering I'm still not over '93 when FSU won the national championship despite losing to ND. Not that I'm still bitter or anything...Haha.
Two final points  
ajr2456 : 12/3/2023 12:55 pm : link
If Travis is that important, than give him the heisman.

If FSU isn’t one of the top 4 teams how are they ahead of Georgia
RE: RE: RE: Committee got it right...  
section125 : 12/3/2023 12:56 pm : link
In comment 16311768 bw in dc said:
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but this is just a terrible situation for FSU.

I wish the expansion was this year instead of next.

Didn't the ACC vote not to have he expansion this year? JFC, that would be ironic...



Total scumbag maneuver. They just shit on kids that played their ass off. They took the #4 team, that won their conference title and took teams rated behind them before the weekend and jumped two teams over them.

FSU shold tell the NCAA and their 40 bowls to go fuck themselves.



I get it. It's a very tough pill to swallow if you are an FSU supporter.


Scumbag decision.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/3/2023 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16311752 markky said:
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they're getting their 2nd string QB back before the playoffs. So we're just saying he can't drive the offense with a few weeks of practicing witht he first team. this is weak.

i guess this opens the door to the NFL bouncing teams from the playoffs if their QB gets hurt in the first round and replacing them with a team with a healthy QB.


Your NFL point is silly. There’s no subjectivity to the NFL playoff process. That’s how teams with losing records make the postseason while teams with ten wins sit at home. Unfortunately, that’s not the process here and while it will be easier going forward, subjectivity will still play a role in the college playoffs.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that FSU couldn’t win a game with backup QBs. I think in this process that it’s very easy to argue that FSU isn’t one of the 4 best teams without Jordan Travis. That may not even be true, but it’s an argument that can be made. And with very tough choices, that was the easiest way to make the decision.
RE: Two final points  
markky : 12/3/2023 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16311780 ajr2456 said:
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If FSU isn’t one of the top 4 teams how are they ahead of Georgia


excellent point
RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't  
Eman11 : 12/3/2023 12:59 pm : link
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matter. WTF.



Jordan Travis was a major part of why they were one of the best teams in the country.


Yup and sounds like him being out is a major reason why they got bounced. They must think even with a practicing #2 they still aren’t near a top 4 level.

I think it simply comes down to that as much as it sucks for them to be out.

It would’ve been really interesting if he wasn’t hurt and they couldn’t be kept out. Then it would’ve come down to Bama/UT for the final spot and I think the committee is relieved not to have to make that choice. Much easier to cite Travis’s injury, bounce them and get the other two in.
RE: Two final points  
bw in dc : 12/3/2023 1:00 pm : link
In comment 16311780 ajr2456 said:
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If Travis is that important, than give him the heisman.

If FSU isn’t one of the top 4 teams how are they ahead of Georgia


I can buy that point re: Travis. He's been on my list since the end of the first month of games.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
markky : 12/3/2023 1:01 pm : link
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they're getting their 2nd string QB back before the playoffs. So we're just saying he can't drive the offense with a few weeks of practicing witht he first team. this is weak.

i guess this opens the door to the NFL bouncing teams from the playoffs if their QB gets hurt in the first round and replacing them with a team with a healthy QB.



Your NFL point is silly. There’s no subjectivity to the NFL playoff process. That’s how teams with losing records make the postseason while teams with ten wins sit at home. Unfortunately, that’s not the process here and while it will be easier going forward, subjectivity will still play a role in the college playoffs.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that FSU couldn’t win a game with backup QBs. I think in this process that it’s very easy to argue that FSU isn’t one of the 4 best teams without Jordan Travis. That may not even be true, but it’s an argument that can be made. And with very tough choices, that was the easiest way to make the decision.


i was being facetious. but what I really think is that yes, you can argue that FSU isn't the same team and not a top 4 team. but you can also argue that their defense alone makes them a top 4 team. they haven't lost a game yet, even after adversity. it's not fair to bounce them because you believe they won't rise to the challenge. let them rise or not rise. you're replacing them with a team that has already lost. and barely, barely got past auburn just 8 days ago.
if the committee is putting Bama ahead of FSU they should also  
markky : 12/3/2023 1:03 pm : link
put Georgia ahead of FSU. they just showed they're full of shit.
RE: RE: The way this played out, even if Georgia won  
shyster : 12/3/2023 1:06 pm : link
In comment 16311746 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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It seems like Texas would have jumped FSU for the final spot in that scenario too.



Exactly.


Not at all, at least not necessarily.

Alabama winning gave Texas a big boost because now they've beaten the SEC champs and how do you leave them out and put Bama in.

Would have been much easier for Committee to go with undefeated FSU if Bama had gone down to UGA.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: ...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/3/2023 1:06 pm : link
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i was being facetious. but what I really think is that yes, you can argue that FSU isn't the same team and not a top 4 team. but you can also argue that their defense alone makes them a top 4 team. they haven't lost a game yet, even after adversity. it's not fair to bounce them because you believe they won't rise to the challenge. let them rise or not rise. you're replacing them with a team that has already lost. and barely, barely got past auburn just 8 days ago.


As I mentioned earlier, you can do the “almost lost to a bad team” argument with everyone except for Michigan and Texas. The difference is everyone watched the Iron Bowl and no one remembers Washington-Arizona State or FSU-Boston College.

Losing a Heisman Trophy finalist QB was the key factor and I don’t think that any result against Louisville was going to move the needle enough to keep FSU over those other 4 teams. It’s unfortunate, but that’s life.
RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't  
section125 : 12/3/2023 1:09 pm : link
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matter. WTF.



Jordan Travis was a major part of why they were one of the best teams in the country.



Yup and sounds like him being out is a major reason why they got bounced. They must think even with a practicing #2 they still aren’t near a top 4 level.

I think it simply comes down to that as much as it sucks for them to be out.

It would’ve been really interesting if he wasn’t hurt and they couldn’t be kept out. Then it would’ve come down to Bama/UT for the final spot and I think the committee is relieved not to have to make that choice. Much easier to cite Travis’s injury, bounce them and get the other two in.


If Travis isn't hurt FSU is #2 behind Michigan. Remember the polls jumped Washington over FSU after Travis got hurt.
I have no skin in the game for FSU  
M.S. : 12/3/2023 1:18 pm : link
But I really feel badly for them. Definitely hope the school /town does something very special for them.

As for Alabama, I am a big fan, but I also know that if they don’t complete that last gasp TD pass last week, they are on the outside looking in, regardless of Georgia game.

And so it goes.

Here’s to an expanded play-off system where the teams fighting for the 11th and 12th seeds won’t mean Jack.
RE: if the committee is putting Bama ahead of FSU they should also  
Eman11 : 12/3/2023 1:48 pm : link
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put Georgia ahead of FSU. they just showed they're full of shit.


Will it really matter since I’d bet they’re going to face each other in a Bowl?
RE: RE: if the committee is putting Bama ahead of FSU they should also  
section125 : 12/3/2023 1:53 pm : link
In comment 16311875 Eman11 said:
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put Georgia ahead of FSU. they just showed they're full of shit.



Will it really matter since I’d bet they’re going to face each other in a Bowl? [/quote

They are supposed to be in the Orange Bowl, yes. But the point is they took the #8 team and jumped them 4 places but dropped Georgia 5 places. It was a placation...
RE: RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't  
Eman11 : 12/3/2023 1:55 pm : link
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matter. WTF.



Jordan Travis was a major part of why they were one of the best teams in the country.



Yup and sounds like him being out is a major reason why they got bounced. They must think even with a practicing #2 they still aren’t near a top 4 level.

I think it simply comes down to that as much as it sucks for them to be out.

It would’ve been really interesting if he wasn’t hurt and they couldn’t be kept out. Then it would’ve come down to Bama/UT for the final spot and I think the committee is relieved not to have to make that choice. Much easier to cite Travis’s injury, bounce them and get the other two in.



If Travis isn't hurt FSU is #2 behind Michigan. Remember the polls jumped Washington over FSU after Travis got hurt.


Yes and why I said they’d be in easy. My point was the committee would’ve really had its hands full deciding and then justifying either UT or Bama at 4 if he wasn’t hurt.

Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't  
section125 : 12/3/2023 2:09 pm : link
In comment 16311888 Eman11 said:
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Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
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Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?

Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't  
Eman11 : 12/3/2023 2:13 pm : link
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Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
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Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?

Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.


I’m not sure you’re getting what I’m saying. I said if Travis didn’t get hurt they’d definitely in and the the argument comes down to Bama/UT for the 4th team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't  
section125 : 12/3/2023 2:18 pm : link
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Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
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Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?

Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.



I’m not sure you’re getting what I’m saying. I said if Travis didn’t get hurt they’d definitely in and the the argument comes down to Bama/UT for the 4th team.


Ok thanks. No I wasn't getting it. My fault.

But I am done with this. Will never be good with this decision. I can rationalize it but when you need to rationalize a decision it it wrong.
It’s going to be funny if an undefeated  
ajr2456 : 12/3/2023 2:38 pm : link
SEC team is on the bubble for a bye next year and we hear how being undefeated matters
RE: It’s going to be funny if an undefeated  
bw in dc : 12/3/2023 2:50 pm : link
In comment 16311952 ajr2456 said:
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SEC team is on the bubble for a bye next year and we hear how being undefeated matters


I don't think that would have nearly the magnitude today's decision did. Noise? Maybe. But the fallback position will be that at least the team got in...
Yes FSU was Undefeated...  
AROCK1000 : 12/3/2023 2:56 pm : link
But they have a 3rd string QB and the committee takes that into consideration.
FSU would have been blown out vs whomever they were matched up against.
I do not think this was some set up to keep an SEC team in...
Where’s the consistency  
ajr2456 : 12/3/2023 2:58 pm : link
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Boo Corrigan just said that Liberty got the G5 New Year's Six bowl berth because "Liberty just continued to win."
RE: Yes FSU was Undefeated...  
markky : 12/3/2023 3:47 pm : link
In comment 16311971 AROCK1000 said:
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But they have a 3rd string QB and the committee takes that into consideration.
FSU would have been blown out vs whomever they were matched up against.
I do not think this was some set up to keep an SEC team in...


again, they'd have their 2nd string QB back. and we'll see if they get blown out.
RE: RE: if the committee is putting Bama ahead of FSU they should also  
markky : 12/3/2023 3:50 pm : link
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put Georgia ahead of FSU. they just showed they're full of shit.



Will it really matter since I’d bet they’re going to face each other in a Bowl?


what I meant is that it matters because it shows their logic is inconsistent. if they are saying they are putting the best teams in, the logic they used to justify Bama over FSU could easily be used for Georgia over FSU. and probably Ohio as well. they're saying the FSU QB is hurt but only enough to get Bama into the playoffs.
The Committee got this right IMO  
AnnapolisMike : 12/3/2023 3:53 pm : link
Sucks for FSU, but they lost the most important player on the team. It matters
and the irony is that the argument that FSU is out because you  
markky : 12/3/2023 4:13 pm : link
need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.

man, i'm on a rant fest today.
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Eman11 : 12/3/2023 4:24 pm : link
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need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.

man, i'm on a rant fest today.


The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.

The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.

It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT
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ajr2456 : 12/3/2023 4:26 pm : link
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need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.

man, i'm on a rant fest today.



The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.

The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.

It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT


Not it wouldn’t be. The only reason Texas is at three is because they couldn’t just putting Bama in and not them.
RE: RE: RE: and the irony is that the argument that FSU is out because you  
Eman11 : 12/3/2023 4:35 pm : link
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need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.

man, i'm on a rant fest today.



The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.

The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.

It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT



Not it wouldn’t be. The only reason Texas is at three is because they couldn’t just putting Bama in and not them.


Sure man, you tell yourself whatever you need to to deal with the truth. If you can’t see Bama and UT are better teams than FSU, then any further discussion is useless.
If Georgia won yesterday  
ajr2456 : 12/3/2023 4:50 pm : link
Texas’ win over a two loss Bama jumps them over an undefeated team? No chance.
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