Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
I’d have UT over OSU but it’s close. The expanded Playoff is coming a year too late and I hope there are this many deserving teams next year.
head to head, etc. are all objective, factual things. Getting way too subjective going into, "well I think this 1 loss team is better than this 0 loss team because they lost their QB"
Ohio State made the playoffs last year having lost to Michigan (who made it, too), not winning the Big Ten championship, not even getting to the Big Ten championship, and not even winning their division in the Big Tean.
So, why do you think they made it without so many "factual things"?
Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
I’d have UT over OSU but it’s close. The expanded Playoff is coming a year too late and I hope there are this many deserving teams next year.
Why would Texas be over OSU? I think I have residual disdain for Big 12 Conference, like the PAc-12.
head to head, etc. are all objective, factual things. Getting way too subjective going into, "well I think this 1 loss team is better than this 0 loss team because they lost their QB"
Ohio State made the playoffs last year having lost to Michigan (who made it, too), not winning the Big Ten championship, not even getting to the Big Ten championship, and not even winning their division in the Big Tean.
So, why do you think they made it without so many "factual things"?
Because there weren’t three undefeated teams
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Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
I’d have UT over OSU but it’s close. The expanded Playoff is coming a year too late and I hope there are this many deserving teams next year.
Why would Texas be over OSU? I think I have residual disdain for Big 12 Conference, like the PAc-12.
Because for me their Bama win carries more weight than anything OSU has done.
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Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
I’d have UT over OSU but it’s close. The expanded Playoff is coming a year too late and I hope there are this many deserving teams next year.
Why would Texas be over OSU? I think I have residual disdain for Big 12 Conference, like the PAc-12.
Because for me their Bama win carries more weight than anything OSU has done.
But no matter how it shakes out, we are going to have some massive meltdowns from elite programs and fan bases that are left out and they’re not use to being told no. And I can’t wait for the entertaining mayhem from all their sniveling 😂
But no matter how it shakes out, we are going to have some massive meltdowns from elite programs and fan bases that are left out and they’re not use to being told no. And I can’t wait for the entertaining mayhem from all their sniveling 😂
This. Going to be quite the drama after the selections are made. Extremely entertaining.
But no matter how it shakes out, we are going to have some massive meltdowns from elite programs and fan bases that are left out and they’re not use to being told no. And I can’t wait for the entertaining mayhem from all their sniveling 😂
If you have a loss, especially in a conference championship game, you have no reason to pout.
What will cause an uproar is jumping teams over teams that were ranked higher before the weekend and the higher ranked teams won.
If not for the Playoff Poll, the two main polls (AP and Coaches)
Likely are:
1.) Michigan
2.) Washington
3.) FSU
4.) Alabama/Texas
5.) Texas/Alabama
6.) Georgia
7.) Ohio State
and so on...
I thoroughly expect:
Michigan
Washington
Texas/Alabama
Alabama/Texas
the pride of the Big 10 Michigan will make it. I wish Harbaugh would trademark "Back to back to back" for his accomplishments with winning the Big 10 title these past 3 seasons.
But no matter how it shakes out, we are going to have some massive meltdowns from elite programs and fan bases that are left out and they’re not use to being told no. And I can’t wait for the entertaining mayhem from all their sniveling 😂
If you have a loss, especially in a conference championship game, you have no reason to pout.
What will cause an uproar is jumping teams over teams that were ranked higher before the weekend and the higher ranked teams won.
If not for the Playoff Poll, the two main polls (AP and Coaches)
Likely are:
1.) Michigan
2.) Washington
3.) FSU
4.) Alabama/Texas
5.) Texas/Alabama
6.) Georgia
7.) Ohio State
and so on...
I thoroughly expect:
Michigan
Washington
Texas/Alabama
Alabama/Texas
Oh I agree with everything you say but you’re out of your mind if you don’t think there will be any “pouting”. Hell, the preemptive strikes already started last night. Kirby Smart took about 5 seconds after coming off a loss to completely dismiss the loss as a nothing burger and telling the world that Georgia deserved to be in. Ummm, you just LOST!
And I love the ole “it’s not the most deserving, it’s the best teams” nonsense. So, if deserving has nothing to do with it, why the hell are we bothering to play the games? Just pick the 4 teams YOU randomly think are the 4 best teams at the beginning of the season and let them go right into the playoffs. No need to play all the other games since deserve has nothing to do with it, apparently. How the hell does anyone know who “the best” teams are unless they play? Everyone thought Oregon was better than Washington. Oops! Everyone thought Georgia would beat Alabama. Oops! They are supposed to be playing the games for a reason. Results should matter more than some random nerds opinions sitting in a room together
What will cause an uproar is jumping teams over teams that were ranked higher before the weekend and the higher ranked teams won.
If not for the Playoff Poll, the two main polls (AP and Coaches)
Likely are:
1.) Michigan
2.) Washington
3.) FSU
4.) Alabama/Texas
5.) Texas/Alabama
6.) Georgia
7.) Ohio State
and so on...
I thoroughly expect:
Michigan
Washington
Texas/Alabama
Alabama/Texas
Oh I agree with everything you say but you’re out of your mind if you don’t think there will be any “pouting”. Hell, the preemptive strikes already started last night. Kirby Smart took about 5 seconds after coming off a loss to completely dismiss the loss as a nothing burger and telling the world that Georgia deserved to be in. Ummm, you just LOST!
And I love the ole “it’s not the most deserving, it’s the best teams” nonsense. So, if deserving has nothing to do with it, why the hell are we bothering to play the games? Just pick the 4 teams YOU randomly think are the 4 best teams at the beginning of the season and let them go right into the playoffs. No need to play all the other games since deserve has nothing to do with it, apparently. How the hell does anyone know who “the best” teams are unless they play? Everyone thought Oregon was better than Washington. Oops! Everyone thought Georgia would beat Alabama. Oops! They are supposed to be playing the games for a reason. Results should matter more than some random nerds opinions sitting in a room together
Well yeah, there will be pouting, but they shouldn't. They lost.
It will be fascinating to see.
the selection committee specifically says their charter is to select the best teams.
In fact, it's in writing.
First, lose the condescending bullshit. The uninformed? You are such a freaking clown show.
Second, most of us are well aware that the committee says they go with the “best teams”. That doesn’t mean everyone has to agree with it. What the hell is the best team? Nobody knows unless they prove it on the field against each other. Your idea of what the best teams are is different than what others’ think the best teams are. The committee has final say, of course but I’m sure even they debate amongst each other on who that even is.
is still subjective. FSU thoroughly dominated Louisville but is getting docked points for not having their starting QB. But, that defense held a team scoring 30 points a game to 6. The D has been very good all season long. And they are undefeated from a power conference.
Weighing that the offense look bad with a true freshman shouldn't negate the dominance their D showed, especially when some of the other hopeful teams are playing track meets each week.
the selection committee specifically says their charter is to select the best teams.
In fact, it's in writing.
Ok...do you think people thought they were supposed to select the worst teams? The question is how the best teams are determined. By actually playing games, or what some BCS politicians think in their heads?
IMO, this year is pretty easy. Three unbeaten major conference champs. Then there are two major conference champs with one loss: Texas and AL. They played head to head and Texas won convincingly
the selection committee specifically says their charter is to select the best teams.
In fact, it's in writing.
They’ve never actually done that though. If they did Cincianitti and TCU would have never made it
I don't want to suggest the SC has always selected the right teams. It's still a subjective conclusion.
Just stating their mission statement.
And I don't want to give the impression that it's the end of the world if FSU gets a spot. They have had a great year. So, if they get it, good for them. I have consistently said the sport is better when they are relevant.
the selection committee specifically says their charter is to select the best teams.
In fact, it's in writing.
Which four, in your opinion, are the best?
IMO the best 4 are Bama, Michigan, Georgia and Texas. I don't think the SC would do that, no matter what their charter says.
I agree with your four. And would applaud the committee for doing that.
There is history to support that, actually. A #1 team going into the final week has never fallen below the #4 line after a loss. And the SEC champ has never been excluded.
If FSU makes it, I understand but they are not the same quality team without Travis. The country doesn't want to watch Tate Rodemaker in the semi finals
is still subjective. FSU thoroughly dominated Louisville but is getting docked points for not having their starting QB. But, that defense held a team scoring 30 points a game to 6. The D has been very good all season long. And they are undefeated from a power conference.
Weighing that the offense look bad with a true freshman shouldn't negate the dominance their D showed, especially when some of the other hopeful teams are playing track meets each week.
The argument against FSU isn’t, “Can they win a playoff game without Travis?” Of course they could. It’s “Are they one of the four best teams without him?” I think that’s a difficult argument to make. And how the teams looked yesterday isn’t particularly important IMO.
The PAC 12 was way better than the ACC.
The BIG 12 champ has a win in the home stadium of the SEC Champ.
THE SEC Champ just ended the winning streak of the two time defending national champs.
Michigan, despite the cupcake schedule and cheating scandal, was largely seen as the best team this season. They also have a superior win to any of FSU’s.
Those are arguments that the committee can make. However, there’s no doubt in my mind that the Noles would’ve made it with a healthy Travis. It sucks, but it is what it is (tm Antrel Rolle).
The best 4 teams are probably Georgia, Bama, Michigan, Washington, but the 4 most deserving are MI, Wash, Texas and FSU. The question is what does the committee favor more
1. Michigan (51) 13-0
2. Washington (11) 13-0
3. Texas 12-1
4. Florida State 13-0
They got it right. Alabama shouldn't make it if you watched them play other than yesterday.
With the exception of Michigan and Texas, all of the other teams have ugly games against bad teams. FSU-Boston College, WASH-Arizona State/Washington State/Stanford, Alabama-Auburn. The Huskies had so many that they were underdogs to Oregon.
The difference is regular viewers didn’t watch any of those games aside from the Iron Bowl so they got memory holed.
If FSU makes it, I understand but they are not the same quality team without Travis. The country doesn't want to watch Tate Rodemaker in the semi finals
How do you know? The guy is likely the starter next year for FSU unless they bring in someone through the portal.
How about let's see if some of the others can score on FSU's defense.
If FSU makes it, I understand but they are not the same quality team without Travis. The country doesn't want to watch Tate Rodemaker in the semi finals
How do you know? The guy is likely the starter next year for FSU unless they bring in someone through the portal.
How about let's see if some of the others can score on FSU's defense.
Im basing my post off of watching him struggle vs Florida last week. Maybe you're an FSU guy and know more about him but I wasn't impressed in the only game I've seen him play.
Being the starter next year and having the whole spring/summer to get used to playing, has nothing to do with selecting the best 4 teams for the playoffs.
As I said, I won't be surprised if they are the 4th seed but lets not pretend FSU's offense is the same with him vs Travis
If FSU makes it, I understand but they are not the same quality team without Travis. The country doesn't want to watch Tate Rodemaker in the semi finals
How do you know? The guy is likely the starter next year for FSU unless they bring in someone through the portal.
How about let's see if some of the others can score on FSU's defense.
Im basing my post off of watching him struggle vs Florida last week. Maybe you're an FSU guy and know more about him but I wasn't impressed in the only game I've seen him play.
Being the starter next year and having the whole spring/summer to get used to playing, has nothing to do with selecting the best 4 teams for the playoffs.
As I said, I won't be surprised if they are the 4th seed but lets not pretend FSU's offense is the same with him vs Travis
He had 5 days to prepare for UF. How much do you think Norvell let him do in that game? Do I expect Rodemaker to turn into Travis in a month? No. But he would be a significant upgrade to Glenn.
But I suspect he will be significantly better than Glenn.
The FSU offense from last night probably can't. But that will not be the offense in a month. And FSU's defense can play with anyone.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
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Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
I’d have UT over OSU but it’s close. The expanded Playoff is coming a year too late and I hope there are this many deserving teams next year.
Ohio State made the playoffs last year having lost to Michigan (who made it, too), not winning the Big Ten championship, not even getting to the Big Ten championship, and not even winning their division in the Big Tean.
So, why do you think they made it without so many "factual things"?
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Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
I’d have UT over OSU but it’s close. The expanded Playoff is coming a year too late and I hope there are this many deserving teams next year.
Why would Texas be over OSU? I think I have residual disdain for Big 12 Conference, like the PAc-12.
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head to head, etc. are all objective, factual things. Getting way too subjective going into, "well I think this 1 loss team is better than this 0 loss team because they lost their QB"
Ohio State made the playoffs last year having lost to Michigan (who made it, too), not winning the Big Ten championship, not even getting to the Big Ten championship, and not even winning their division in the Big Tean.
So, why do you think they made it without so many "factual things"?
Because there weren’t three undefeated teams
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Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
I’d have UT over OSU but it’s close. The expanded Playoff is coming a year too late and I hope there are this many deserving teams next year.
Why would Texas be over OSU? I think I have residual disdain for Big 12 Conference, like the PAc-12.
Because for me their Bama win carries more weight than anything OSU has done.
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Says it’s the “four best” not four most deserving. That sounds like FSU is on the outside looking in to me.
And it really sounds like UGA might still have a shot but I don’t know who gets bounced to put them in.
They’re not gonna penalize a B10 Champ and the $$ that Conference brings, so I definitely think UM is in. UT was really impressive and hard to justify keeping them out. Bama gets in over UGA based on yesterday so could an undefeated soon to be no more PAC 12 Champ be on the bubble based on his comments?
I think UGA is one of the four best but I think they’ll end up out.
By that reasoning it would be:
UGA, Alabama, OSU, Michigan....a couple excellent teams are going to miss out.
I’d have UT over OSU but it’s close. The expanded Playoff is coming a year too late and I hope there are this many deserving teams next year.
Why would Texas be over OSU? I think I have residual disdain for Big 12 Conference, like the PAc-12.
Because for me their Bama win carries more weight than anything OSU has done.
Anything to keep Ohio State out is fine with me.
Washington
Texas
Alabama
But no matter how it shakes out, we are going to have some massive meltdowns from elite programs and fan bases that are left out and they’re not use to being told no. And I can’t wait for the entertaining mayhem from all their sniveling 😂
Washington
Texas
Alabama
But no matter how it shakes out, we are going to have some massive meltdowns from elite programs and fan bases that are left out and they’re not use to being told no. And I can’t wait for the entertaining mayhem from all their sniveling 😂
This. Going to be quite the drama after the selections are made. Extremely entertaining.
This is what it will be. Ridiculous to not have an SEC team in there.
Washington
Texas
Alabama
But no matter how it shakes out, we are going to have some massive meltdowns from elite programs and fan bases that are left out and they’re not use to being told no. And I can’t wait for the entertaining mayhem from all their sniveling 😂
If you have a loss, especially in a conference championship game, you have no reason to pout.
What will cause an uproar is jumping teams over teams that were ranked higher before the weekend and the higher ranked teams won.
If not for the Playoff Poll, the two main polls (AP and Coaches)
Likely are:
1.) Michigan
2.) Washington
3.) FSU
4.) Alabama/Texas
5.) Texas/Alabama
6.) Georgia
7.) Ohio State
and so on...
I thoroughly expect:
Michigan
Washington
Texas/Alabama
Alabama/Texas
Vegas thinks otherwise
It's Michigan vs the world.
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Michigan
Washington
Texas
Alabama
But no matter how it shakes out, we are going to have some massive meltdowns from elite programs and fan bases that are left out and they’re not use to being told no. And I can’t wait for the entertaining mayhem from all their sniveling 😂
If you have a loss, especially in a conference championship game, you have no reason to pout.
What will cause an uproar is jumping teams over teams that were ranked higher before the weekend and the higher ranked teams won.
If not for the Playoff Poll, the two main polls (AP and Coaches)
Likely are:
1.) Michigan
2.) Washington
3.) FSU
4.) Alabama/Texas
5.) Texas/Alabama
6.) Georgia
7.) Ohio State
and so on...
I thoroughly expect:
Michigan
Washington
Texas/Alabama
Alabama/Texas
Oh I agree with everything you say but you’re out of your mind if you don’t think there will be any “pouting”. Hell, the preemptive strikes already started last night. Kirby Smart took about 5 seconds after coming off a loss to completely dismiss the loss as a nothing burger and telling the world that Georgia deserved to be in. Ummm, you just LOST!
And I love the ole “it’s not the most deserving, it’s the best teams” nonsense. So, if deserving has nothing to do with it, why the hell are we bothering to play the games? Just pick the 4 teams YOU randomly think are the 4 best teams at the beginning of the season and let them go right into the playoffs. No need to play all the other games since deserve has nothing to do with it, apparently. How the hell does anyone know who “the best” teams are unless they play? Everyone thought Oregon was better than Washington. Oops! Everyone thought Georgia would beat Alabama. Oops! They are supposed to be playing the games for a reason. Results should matter more than some random nerds opinions sitting in a room together
What will cause an uproar is jumping teams over teams that were ranked higher before the weekend and the higher ranked teams won.
If not for the Playoff Poll, the two main polls (AP and Coaches)
Likely are:
1.) Michigan
2.) Washington
3.) FSU
4.) Alabama/Texas
5.) Texas/Alabama
6.) Georgia
7.) Ohio State
and so on...
I thoroughly expect:
Michigan
Washington
Texas/Alabama
Alabama/Texas
Oh I agree with everything you say but you’re out of your mind if you don’t think there will be any “pouting”. Hell, the preemptive strikes already started last night. Kirby Smart took about 5 seconds after coming off a loss to completely dismiss the loss as a nothing burger and telling the world that Georgia deserved to be in. Ummm, you just LOST!
And I love the ole “it’s not the most deserving, it’s the best teams” nonsense. So, if deserving has nothing to do with it, why the hell are we bothering to play the games? Just pick the 4 teams YOU randomly think are the 4 best teams at the beginning of the season and let them go right into the playoffs. No need to play all the other games since deserve has nothing to do with it, apparently. How the hell does anyone know who “the best” teams are unless they play? Everyone thought Oregon was better than Washington. Oops! Everyone thought Georgia would beat Alabama. Oops! They are supposed to be playing the games for a reason. Results should matter more than some random nerds opinions sitting in a room together
Well yeah, there will be pouting, but they shouldn't. They lost.
It will be fascinating to see.
But I just can't see how the committee can keep out an undefeated 13-0 Major Conference Champion.
(1) Michigan
(2) Washington
(3) Texas
(4) Florida State
My guess is Alabama will be on the outside looking in. Cue the outrage.
(1) Michigan
(2) Washington
(3) Florida State
(4) Alabama
3 undefeated teams plus the SEC champ.
In fact, it's in writing.
Then just have a rematch between Bama and Georgia to determine the actual best team.
I think its Michigan, Washington, FSU and Texas.
with the committee trying to arrange things so its Michigan vs Texas in the final.
I get that the committee wants a SEC team. But Florida State won all its games - beating two SEC teams in the process (and one was without Travis).
In fact, it's in writing.
Which four, in your opinion, are the best?
IMO the best 4 are Bama, Michigan, Georgia and Texas. I don't think the SC would do that, no matter what their charter says.
Michigan
Washington
Texas
FSU
Bama
Georgia
OSU
Oregon
In fact, it's in writing.
They’ve never actually done that though. If they did Cincianitti and TCU would have never made it
2. Washington,
3. Alabama
4. Texas
2. Washington,
3. Alabama
4. Texas
Brace yourself. (:-)
Michigan
Washington
Texas
FSU
Bama
Georgia
OSU
Oregon
Not gonna happen but there are really 8 teams worthy this year
In fact, it's in writing.
First, lose the condescending bullshit. The uninformed? You are such a freaking clown show.
Second, most of us are well aware that the committee says they go with the “best teams”. That doesn’t mean everyone has to agree with it. What the hell is the best team? Nobody knows unless they prove it on the field against each other. Your idea of what the best teams are is different than what others’ think the best teams are. The committee has final say, of course but I’m sure even they debate amongst each other on who that even is.
Do they select on record? (FSU has to get in.)
Do they select on strength of schedule? (Bama/SEC in.)
Do they select based on money/politics? (FSU out, Bama in, hoping for Texas/Michigan final.)
I am sure they have a hierarchy, but not sure what they weigh the most?
Weighing that the offense look bad with a true freshman shouldn't negate the dominance their D showed, especially when some of the other hopeful teams are playing track meets each week.
In fact, it's in writing.
Ok...do you think people thought they were supposed to select the worst teams? The question is how the best teams are determined. By actually playing games, or what some BCS politicians think in their heads?
IMO, this year is pretty easy. Three unbeaten major conference champs. Then there are two major conference champs with one loss: Texas and AL. They played head to head and Texas won convincingly
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the selection committee specifically says their charter is to select the best teams.
In fact, it's in writing.
They’ve never actually done that though. If they did Cincianitti and TCU would have never made it
I don't want to suggest the SC has always selected the right teams. It's still a subjective conclusion.
Just stating their mission statement.
And I don't want to give the impression that it's the end of the world if FSU gets a spot. They have had a great year. So, if they get it, good for them. I have consistently said the sport is better when they are relevant.
I just see a path where they should be excluded.
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the selection committee specifically says their charter is to select the best teams.
In fact, it's in writing.
Which four, in your opinion, are the best?
IMO the best 4 are Bama, Michigan, Georgia and Texas. I don't think the SC would do that, no matter what their charter says.
I agree with your four. And would applaud the committee for doing that.
There is history to support that, actually. A #1 team going into the final week has never fallen below the #4 line after a loss. And the SEC champ has never been excluded.
It's a very difficult year.
If FSU makes it, I understand but they are not the same quality team without Travis. The country doesn't want to watch Tate Rodemaker in the semi finals
Weighing that the offense look bad with a true freshman shouldn't negate the dominance their D showed, especially when some of the other hopeful teams are playing track meets each week.
The argument against FSU isn’t, “Can they win a playoff game without Travis?” Of course they could. It’s “Are they one of the four best teams without him?” I think that’s a difficult argument to make. And how the teams looked yesterday isn’t particularly important IMO.
The PAC 12 was way better than the ACC.
The BIG 12 champ has a win in the home stadium of the SEC Champ.
THE SEC Champ just ended the winning streak of the two time defending national champs.
Michigan, despite the cupcake schedule and cheating scandal, was largely seen as the best team this season. They also have a superior win to any of FSU’s.
Those are arguments that the committee can make. However, there’s no doubt in my mind that the Noles would’ve made it with a healthy Travis. It sucks, but it is what it is (tm Antrel Rolle).
2. Washington (11) 13-0
3. Texas 12-1
4. Florida State 13-0
They got it right. Alabama shouldn't make it if you watched them play other than yesterday.
2. Washington (11) 13-0
3. Texas 12-1
4. Florida State 13-0
They got it right. Alabama shouldn't make it if you watched them play other than yesterday.
With the exception of Michigan and Texas, all of the other teams have ugly games against bad teams. FSU-Boston College, WASH-Arizona State/Washington State/Stanford, Alabama-Auburn. The Huskies had so many that they were underdogs to Oregon.
The difference is regular viewers didn’t watch any of those games aside from the Iron Bowl so they got memory holed.
If FSU makes it, I understand but they are not the same quality team without Travis. The country doesn't want to watch Tate Rodemaker in the semi finals
How do you know? The guy is likely the starter next year for FSU unless they bring in someone through the portal.
How about let's see if some of the others can score on FSU's defense.
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Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama.
If FSU makes it, I understand but they are not the same quality team without Travis. The country doesn't want to watch Tate Rodemaker in the semi finals
How do you know? The guy is likely the starter next year for FSU unless they bring in someone through the portal.
How about let's see if some of the others can score on FSU's defense.
Im basing my post off of watching him struggle vs Florida last week. Maybe you're an FSU guy and know more about him but I wasn't impressed in the only game I've seen him play.
Being the starter next year and having the whole spring/summer to get used to playing, has nothing to do with selecting the best 4 teams for the playoffs.
As I said, I won't be surprised if they are the 4th seed but lets not pretend FSU's offense is the same with him vs Travis
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Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama.
If FSU makes it, I understand but they are not the same quality team without Travis. The country doesn't want to watch Tate Rodemaker in the semi finals
How do you know? The guy is likely the starter next year for FSU unless they bring in someone through the portal.
How about let's see if some of the others can score on FSU's defense.
Im basing my post off of watching him struggle vs Florida last week. Maybe you're an FSU guy and know more about him but I wasn't impressed in the only game I've seen him play.
Being the starter next year and having the whole spring/summer to get used to playing, has nothing to do with selecting the best 4 teams for the playoffs.
As I said, I won't be surprised if they are the 4th seed but lets not pretend FSU's offense is the same with him vs Travis
He had 5 days to prepare for UF. How much do you think Norvell let him do in that game? Do I expect Rodemaker to turn into Travis in a month? No. But he would be a significant upgrade to Glenn.
But I suspect he will be significantly better than Glenn.
Maybe Alabama is better. But they have already lost on the field. Let an undefeated team have their shot.
Plus Bama should not have even won last weekend.
So unfair to the FSU students.