In comment 16311875 Eman11 said:
[quote] In comment 16311796 markky said:
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put Georgia ahead of FSU. they just showed they're full of shit.
Will it really matter since I’d bet they’re going to face each other in a Bowl? [/quote
They are supposed to be in the Orange Bowl, yes. But the point is they took the #8 team and jumped them 4 places but dropped Georgia 5 places. It was a placation...
RE: RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't
Jordan Travis was a major part of why they were one of the best teams in the country.
Yup and sounds like him being out is a major reason why they got bounced. They must think even with a practicing #2 they still aren’t near a top 4 level.
I think it simply comes down to that as much as it sucks for them to be out.
It would’ve been really interesting if he wasn’t hurt and they couldn’t be kept out. Then it would’ve come down to Bama/UT for the final spot and I think the committee is relieved not to have to make that choice. Much easier to cite Travis’s injury, bounce them and get the other two in.
If Travis isn't hurt FSU is #2 behind Michigan. Remember the polls jumped Washington over FSU after Travis got hurt.
Yes and why I said they’d be in easy. My point was the committee would’ve really had its hands full deciding and then justifying either UT or Bama at 4 if he wasn’t hurt.
Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
Do
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't
Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
Do
Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?
Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't
Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
Do
Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?
Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.
I’m not sure you’re getting what I’m saying. I said if Travis didn’t get hurt they’d definitely in and the the argument comes down to Bama/UT for the 4th team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: so FSU could have the defense of the 1985 Bears and it wouldn't
Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
Do
Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?
Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.
I’m not sure you’re getting what I’m saying. I said if Travis didn’t get hurt they’d definitely in and the the argument comes down to Bama/UT for the 4th team.
Ok thanks. No I wasn't getting it. My fault.
But I am done with this. Will never be good with this decision. I can rationalize it but when you need to rationalize a decision it it wrong.
SEC team is on the bubble for a bye next year and we hear how being undefeated matters
I don't think that would have nearly the magnitude today's decision did. Noise? Maybe. But the fallback position will be that at least the team got in...
But they have a 3rd string QB and the committee takes that into consideration.
FSU would have been blown out vs whomever they were matched up against.
I do not think this was some set up to keep an SEC team in...
But they have a 3rd string QB and the committee takes that into consideration.
FSU would have been blown out vs whomever they were matched up against.
I do not think this was some set up to keep an SEC team in...
again, they'd have their 2nd string QB back. and we'll see if they get blown out.
RE: RE: if the committee is putting Bama ahead of FSU they should also
put Georgia ahead of FSU. they just showed they're full of shit.
Will it really matter since I’d bet they’re going to face each other in a Bowl?
what I meant is that it matters because it shows their logic is inconsistent. if they are saying they are putting the best teams in, the logic they used to justify Bama over FSU could easily be used for Georgia over FSU. and probably Ohio as well. they're saying the FSU QB is hurt but only enough to get Bama into the playoffs.
need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.
man, i'm on a rant fest today.
RE: and the irony is that the argument that FSU is out because you
need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.
man, i'm on a rant fest today.
The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.
The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.
It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT
RE: RE: and the irony is that the argument that FSU is out because you
need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.
man, i'm on a rant fest today.
The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.
The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.
It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT
Not it wouldn’t be. The only reason Texas is at three is because they couldn’t just putting Bama in and not them.
RE: RE: RE: and the irony is that the argument that FSU is out because you
need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.
man, i'm on a rant fest today.
The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.
The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.
It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT
Not it wouldn’t be. The only reason Texas is at three is because they couldn’t just putting Bama in and not them.
Sure man, you tell yourself whatever you need to to deal with the truth. If you can’t see Bama and UT are better teams than FSU, then any further discussion is useless.
Will it really matter since I’d bet they’re going to face each other in a Bowl?
[quote] In comment 16311796 markky said:
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put Georgia ahead of FSU. they just showed they're full of shit.
Will it really matter since I’d bet they’re going to face each other in a Bowl? [/quote
They are supposed to be in the Orange Bowl, yes. But the point is they took the #8 team and jumped them 4 places but dropped Georgia 5 places. It was a placation...
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In comment 16311736 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 16311731 markky said:
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matter. WTF.
Jordan Travis was a major part of why they were one of the best teams in the country.
Yup and sounds like him being out is a major reason why they got bounced. They must think even with a practicing #2 they still aren’t near a top 4 level.
I think it simply comes down to that as much as it sucks for them to be out.
It would’ve been really interesting if he wasn’t hurt and they couldn’t be kept out. Then it would’ve come down to Bama/UT for the final spot and I think the committee is relieved not to have to make that choice. Much easier to cite Travis’s injury, bounce them and get the other two in.
If Travis isn't hurt FSU is #2 behind Michigan. Remember the polls jumped Washington over FSU after Travis got hurt.
Yes and why I said they’d be in easy. My point was the committee would’ve really had its hands full deciding and then justifying either UT or Bama at 4 if he wasn’t hurt.
Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
Do
Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
Do
Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?
Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.
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Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
Do
Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?
Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.
I’m not sure you’re getting what I’m saying. I said if Travis didn’t get hurt they’d definitely in and the the argument comes down to Bama/UT for the 4th team.
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In comment 16311888 Eman11 said:
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Do you take the SEC Champ who just beat #1 or a team that beat them, even if very early in the season? I think secretly the Committee is glad they didn’t have to make that choice and used the Travis injury as an easy or easier out for their selections.
Do
Right, you take the #8 team over the undefeated #4 team(who would have been the #2 team if Travis wasn't hurt). What kind of thinking is that? The committee would have hoped to bypass FSU even with Travis just to get Alabama in?
Not worth arguing over. The committee is a bunch of scumbags.
I’m not sure you’re getting what I’m saying. I said if Travis didn’t get hurt they’d definitely in and the the argument comes down to Bama/UT for the 4th team.
Ok thanks. No I wasn't getting it. My fault.
But I am done with this. Will never be good with this decision. I can rationalize it but when you need to rationalize a decision it it wrong.
I don't think that would have nearly the magnitude today's decision did. Noise? Maybe. But the fallback position will be that at least the team got in...
FSU would have been blown out vs whomever they were matched up against.
I do not think this was some set up to keep an SEC team in...
FSU would have been blown out vs whomever they were matched up against.
I do not think this was some set up to keep an SEC team in...
again, they'd have their 2nd string QB back. and we'll see if they get blown out.
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put Georgia ahead of FSU. they just showed they're full of shit.
Will it really matter since I’d bet they’re going to face each other in a Bowl?
what I meant is that it matters because it shows their logic is inconsistent. if they are saying they are putting the best teams in, the logic they used to justify Bama over FSU could easily be used for Georgia over FSU. and probably Ohio as well. they're saying the FSU QB is hurt but only enough to get Bama into the playoffs.
man, i'm on a rant fest today.
man, i'm on a rant fest today.
The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.
The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.
It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT
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need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.
man, i'm on a rant fest today.
The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.
The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.
It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT
Not it wouldn’t be. The only reason Texas is at three is because they couldn’t just putting Bama in and not them.
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In comment 16312077 markky said:
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need the QB that brought you there. and the team that is in is the one that benched their QB that got them there DURING a national championship game. and they went on to win.
man, i'm on a rant fest today.
The committee only looks at this year and what happened with Hurts/Tua is irrelevant as it should be. Besides the fact one change was made during the game and Travis has been out for a few games now and everyone can see how it has affected their O.
The rants against Bama are kind of funny to me though, as even if they lost to UGA yesterday, FSU still would be out based on where they put UT in the Final 4.
It would’ve been::
UGA
UM
UW
UT
Not it wouldn’t be. The only reason Texas is at three is because they couldn’t just putting Bama in and not them.
Sure man, you tell yourself whatever you need to to deal with the truth. If you can’t see Bama and UT are better teams than FSU, then any further discussion is useless.