- Luis Severino has joined the Mets in free agency after a mixed history with the Yankees. His career with the Yankees was marked by both success and extensive injuries. Severino signed a one-year, $13 million deal with the Mets.
Mets' Catching Depth:
- The Mets' catching depth is a concern, regarding Omar Narváez's performance and health. Cooper Hmel is considered a potential replacement for Narváez. They also picked up Tyler Heineman.
- Joey Wendle was picked up to replace LG as the utility man.
- Kyle Crick, a new Mets relief pitcher, has joined on a minor league deal with hopes of strengthening the bullpen.
The Mets have signed Austin Adams, Joseph Yabbour, Andre Scrubb and Cole Sulser to aid bullpen depth.
Mets Winter Meetings Focus:
- The Mets are expected to be active at the Winter Meetings, with a focus on acquiring an outfielder, starting pitching, and relief pitching. They are also interested in improving run prevention and outfield defense.
- The team may engage in trade talks, expect to hear the usual prospect names such as Kevin Parada, Brett Baty, Mark Vientos, and Ronny Mauricio.
Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Player Meetings:
- The New York Mets are planning to meet with Japanese pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto in the next week and he is expected to continue to draw significant interest from MLB teams.
- Shohei Ohtani is also expected to make a decision on his next team soon, with bids for his services surpassing $500 million.
- The Mets are also considering Korean outfielder Jung Hoo Lee.
Summary from pre Winter Meeting thread:
Hall of Fame Ballot Newbies: Inclusion of players like Big Sexy, Wright, and Reyes in the Hall of Fame ballot.
- Several iconic Yankees and Mets greats were in contention for Hall of Fame induction, but they fell short of the required votes.
Management and Coaching Updates: Significant changes in the Mets' management and coaching staff, including a new contract for manager Mendoza. Bench coach vacancy and role shifts for Eric Chavez and Jeremy Barnes as hitting coaches. Introduction of Kris Gross and Andy Green in player development and amateur scouting.
Pitching Strategy and Market Moves: Focus on fortifying the rotation, implications of the Cardinals' signings, and the pursuit of high-caliber pitchers.
Bullpen and Player Performance: Signing of BP arms to minor league deals and review of the players.
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I'm having a hard time seeing the Mets come away with Yamamoto personally.
We know the Asian players like to be on the west coast for obvious reasons. If the Dodgers don't land Shohei, they'll just throw tons of cash at Yamamoto. If the Dodgers do get Ohtani then San Francisco has the cash to play with.
I know we will offer a boatload of cash, but Yamamoto is going to have to be ok with the geography.
Incoming .800 OPS/30 HR/ 30 SB year for Kelenic
This team is in danger of what is happening with the Giants....looking up at Philly and Dallas.
Atlanta and Philly are doing things right and I feel like the Mets are without a real plan.
This off-season could be a real indicator of what the next five years holds.....fighting for third place with Florida and Washington.
Braves aren't keeping Gonzalez. They are going to trade him again per Rosenthal.
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who says no?
obviously this is assuming ohtani doesn't go to toronto.
vlad jr has 2 years of control and SD needs a 1b.
manoah who knows but the upside is there and they get 4 years of control. dont think TOR can count on him so in their shoes why not?
is the upgrade from soto to vlad jr enough to pull the trigger? is tiedemann + manoah a preferable deal for both sides?
i wouldnt mind that i think they need a + defensive CF to hedge nimmo. clearly marte aint that (or anything else they can count on).
i think thats mostly what they see in margot, who i have always liked and i think is a bit of a higher end option than taylor or bader (steamer proejcts margot better offensively than both but not as valuable defensively).
margot has had some mixed defensive metrics the last couple years but he's still 29 and the sprint speed is still there so may just be noise since he doesnt have big sample sizes at any 1 position.
IMO, that money is so much better spent over bidding someone by a mil as a FA. Don't overpay for mehh and become known as the salary dumpster.
If you're taking on money, I'd save that for the deadline when teams are shedding and paying.
Something like that Correa deal (with a different ending, of course)
IMO, that money is so much better spent over bidding someone by a mil as a FA. Don't overpay for mehh and become known as the salary dumpster.
If you're taking on money, I'd save that for the deadline when teams are shedding and paying.
i assume tampa will have to include an asset to move the margot $.
It's not like they are trading Jordan Montgomery for him, and then cutting him...
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soto
who says no?
obviously this is assuming ohtani doesn't go to toronto.
vlad jr has 2 years of control and SD needs a 1b.
manoah who knows but the upside is there and they get 4 years of control. dont think TOR can count on him so in their shoes why not?
is the upgrade from soto to vlad jr enough to pull the trigger? is tiedemann + manoah a preferable deal for both sides?
Not sure this makes sense from either side. For SD, they don't get the SP they desperately need and have to rely on Manoah who's a really risky bet at this juncture.
For Toronto, they upgrade from Vlad to Soto but risk Soto walking next year and getting nothing left in return. With their stadium renovations and the resulting increase in ticket prices, that's awfully risky and probably doesn't get them over the hump anyways.
Tiedemann is a more interesting centerpiece but I don't see Toronto making him available for a rental and even if they did, can SD really count on him in their rotation for this season? He was far from lights out in the minors this year. Manoah is the wild card though. Maybe SD views him differently but to me he's a guy you throw in to sweeten the pot and hope you can fix him but there are a number of red flags there.
Not worth getting into much further than that, in my view, because I don't think the Padres are interested in anything like this. The motivations to move Soto are almost exclusively financial in nature. They need to cut significant money on a net basis now, and they want multiple pieces that are very cheap (for term) and very close to the bigs.
exactly how id view him too. that's why i think there's maybe some legs to a manoah as a 2nd piece package.
there is no young, cheap, proven top of rotation anyone is giving them for soto. almost none exist in the first place. so they are going to have to take a chance on a king projecting, or an edward carbera type taking a leap (soto not going to marlins, just using cabrera as an example) or a manoah type bouncing back.
id imagine the deal that gets done is 1 piece like that SD can slot into their rotation along with a top prospect and then some spare parts (and extra salary dumped).
as much as nyy seem to not want to go there a King + Dominguez + some less valuable stuff would simplify things a lot i think. that's a pretty close deal to what lad gave up for betts.
Not worth getting into much further than that, in my view, because I don't think the Padres are interested in anything like this. The motivations to move Soto are almost exclusively financial in nature. They need to cut significant money on a net basis now, and they want multiple pieces that are very cheap (for term) and very close to the bigs.
i had toronto kicking in cash too, which if they miss out on ohtani they will seemingly have plenty of to use to facilitate a move like this. maybe they also take back cronenworth.
Based on that guys track record, lock it in for an introductory presser next week at Citi Field!
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I think SD would be the ones adding to their side of the package, probably significantly. That extra year of control is huge.
Not worth getting into much further than that, in my view, because I don't think the Padres are interested in anything like this. The motivations to move Soto are almost exclusively financial in nature. They need to cut significant money on a net basis now, and they want multiple pieces that are very cheap (for term) and very close to the bigs.
i had toronto kicking in cash too, which if they miss out on ohtani they will seemingly have plenty of to use to facilitate a move like this. maybe they also take back cronenworth.
What I meant was that Toronto should RECEIVE more. I don’t think they’d need to take on Cronenworth or add prospects.
But for the other reasons I listed I don’t think this would be remotely in play even as a framework.
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complicated right now with sfg and tor believed to be ohtani finalists.
@mikemayer22
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Carlos Mendoza says he’s excited about the options the Mets have at third base and went on to mention Ronny Mauricio, Brett Baty, and Joey Wendle.
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I think SD would be the ones adding to their side of the package, probably significantly. That extra year of control is huge.
Not worth getting into much further than that, in my view, because I don't think the Padres are interested in anything like this. The motivations to move Soto are almost exclusively financial in nature. They need to cut significant money on a net basis now, and they want multiple pieces that are very cheap (for term) and very close to the bigs.
i had toronto kicking in cash too, which if they miss out on ohtani they will seemingly have plenty of to use to facilitate a move like this. maybe they also take back cronenworth.
What I meant was that Toronto should RECEIVE more. I don’t think they’d need to take on Cronenworth or add prospects.
But for the other reasons I listed I don’t think this would be remotely in play even as a framework.
i understood your point about toronto needing to receive more for vlad, im not sure i agree with it because it depends heavily on whether or not they plan to extend him long term which will probably be pretty darn expensive.
i was responding to the financial motivation because the trade i suggested did include cash to alleviate that. SD wants to still compete so i think a framework around 2 big leaguers would be something that would get them interested.
The Jays and Angels also have interest in Shohei Ohtani, and would likely be unable to sign both Ohtani and Yamamoto.
The Mets and Yankees have long been linked to Yamamoto and remain in on him, SNY's Andy Martino has reported.
The Red Sox, Cubs, Dodgers, and Giants have also been linked to the Japanese ace.
Per Martino, Yamamoto is unlikely to sign during the Winter Meetings.
He is expected to travel back to the United States after the meetings and meet with teams that are finalists for him.
@ChrisCotillo
Eduardo Rodriguez is at the Opryland, presumably to meet with teams.
And if they can't get him, at the very least they need to get Yoko Ono.
https://youtu.be/k5YIJ1pZEBc?t=79
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mystery team a
mystery team b
complicated right now with sfg and tor believed to be ohtani finalists.
There was a surprising report earlier that Atlanta is in play for Ohtani but don't panic they are not the favorite by any means. He reportedly would like to play in Atlanta because they are a good team with a young core that he finds intriguing BUT there is no way the Braves will pay $500 million for him. I would be surprised if he doesn't sign with the Dodgers or Giants.
he kind of telegraphed that when he said mauricio and baty were both focused on IF not OF a few weeks back. will be interesting to see if they have a strong preference for mauricio at 3b or 2b.
That would be a disappointment, I’d really prefer Yamamoto.
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if they miss out on yamamoto you will come around on snell too ;)
heyman sort of insinuated that snell may be their fallback plan today.
“ The Mets aren’t assuming anything and are showing interest in other free-agent pitchers, including Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery and Eduardo Rodriguez. Among the fallback options, they may have a possible preference for Snell.”
“They may” I’d be stunned if they signed Snell. Truly stunned
“ The Mets aren’t assuming anything and are showing interest in other free-agent pitchers, including Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery and Eduardo Rodriguez. Among the fallback options, they may have a possible preference for Snell.”
“They may” I’d be stunned if they signed Snell. Truly stunned
And FWIW Martino claims the Mets have *not* shown any interest in E-Rod. His words “zero interest”
I think that’s true now but if they miss things will change. We’ll see I guess, cohen hasn’t missed much so it probably won’t come to that.
(Stearns has dipped into the KBO before (Lindblom) so it’s not impossible it’s the Mets
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If I was the Mets I’d sign Montgomery now knowing that you’re going after Yamamoto no matter what anyway. Have to figure the second YY comes off the board the price tag goes up on all these guys.
YY, Monty and Severino is a slam dunk given the pitching the Mets needed coming into the offseason.
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rotation is going to be Senga, Bauer, Quintana, MeGill and Severino/Peterson.
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If I was the Mets I’d sign Montgomery now knowing that you’re going after Yamamoto no matter what anyway. Have to figure the second YY comes off the board the price tag goes up on all these guys.
YY, Monty and Severino is a slam dunk given the pitching the Mets needed coming into the offseason.
the issue is monty likely waits to see where yamamoto goes knoiwing the teams that miss out start getting more aggressive. unless theres a place he wants to go and doesnt mind possibly sacrificing 1 year or a little aav.
only 7 games there last year (and career) between both levels so hopefully rust but yeesh.
he had 12 errors in 56 games at 2b in AAA but in big leagues he had 0 in 21 games and looked comfortable.
picking a spot and letting him acclimate is probably for the best but they also need to pick right. as a bigger guy 3rd probably makes more sense but they also have baty.
not envious of whoever needs to sort out the decisions with these kids. probably part of why im so willing to trade them for soto.
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It appears Erick Fedde’s decision is coming down to the White Sox and Mets, per source. A deal - expected to be in the two-year, $10 million range - could be finalized by Tuesday.
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Mets have been very active in the starters market in the last 48 hours sources have told me. Fedde one they are in on in addition to Jordan Montgomery, Yoshinobu Yamamoto and other lower profile options. Seems Fedde’s closer to signing than any other targets they have an eye on.
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