- Luis Severino has joined the Mets in free agency after a mixed history with the Yankees. His career with the Yankees was marked by both success and extensive injuries. Severino signed a one-year, $13 million deal with the Mets.
Mets' Catching Depth:
- The Mets' catching depth is a concern, regarding Omar Narváez's performance and health. Cooper Hmel is considered a potential replacement for Narváez. They also picked up Tyler Heineman.
- Joey Wendle was picked up to replace LG as the utility man.
- Kyle Crick, a new Mets relief pitcher, has joined on a minor league deal with hopes of strengthening the bullpen.
The Mets have signed Austin Adams, Joseph Yabbour, Andre Scrubb and Cole Sulser to aid bullpen depth.
Mets Winter Meetings Focus:
- The Mets are expected to be active at the Winter Meetings, with a focus on acquiring an outfielder, starting pitching, and relief pitching. They are also interested in improving run prevention and outfield defense.
- The team may engage in trade talks, expect to hear the usual prospect names such as Kevin Parada, Brett Baty, Mark Vientos, and Ronny Mauricio.
Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Player Meetings:
- The New York Mets are planning to meet with Japanese pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto in the next week and he is expected to continue to draw significant interest from MLB teams.
- Shohei Ohtani is also expected to make a decision on his next team soon, with bids for his services surpassing $500 million.
- The Mets are also considering Korean outfielder Jung Hoo Lee.
Summary from pre Winter Meeting thread:
Hall of Fame Ballot Newbies: Inclusion of players like Big Sexy, Wright, and Reyes in the Hall of Fame ballot.
- Several iconic Yankees and Mets greats were in contention for Hall of Fame induction, but they fell short of the required votes.
Management and Coaching Updates: Significant changes in the Mets' management and coaching staff, including a new contract for manager Mendoza. Bench coach vacancy and role shifts for Eric Chavez and Jeremy Barnes as hitting coaches. Introduction of Kris Gross and Andy Green in player development and amateur scouting.
Pitching Strategy and Market Moves: Focus on fortifying the rotation, implications of the Cardinals' signings, and the pursuit of high-caliber pitchers.
Bullpen and Player Performance: Signing of BP arms to minor league deals and review of the players.
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I see two positive outcomes and one I wouldn't say is a negative but not as positive.
Outcome #1: We get Yamamoto. This is the most desirable to me. I am a believer, but I tend to be more on the optimistic side usually, but the potential build of the rotation with Yamamoto and Senga at the top seems like it would be very strong.
Outcome #2: We miss on Yamamoto, and are able to pivot and somehow get under the luxury tax threshold, resetting for the 2025 season. I still think this is a positive outcome. Whether or not Yamamoto is a Met, this is many ways is a development year for many prospects with the Mets both at the big club and in the high minors. The foundation, at least offensively, seems promising. I'm with (I think Eric on LI) who would really entertain moving Alonso in this scenario, hopefully Marte as well, and get us under the threshold.
This would allow Cohen to really be able to be uber aggressive next year and see what we have with the foundation moving forward.
Option #3: We miss on Yamamoto, but stay above the luxury tax. The worst option for me, but still, everything above holds true except the additional year of luxury tax implications. But with another losing season, I have to think the team has to consider re-setting that luxury tax.
I think it's the ridicule that is triggering me. I even have pjcas (who I like) going out of character.
Because you're acting like a spineless jellyfish. what ridicule? and who gives a F? You mentioned being a grown man and a father when I said you were acting like a loser - imagine how your behavior would look in the eyes of your children? it's a f-ing baseball team, we all want them to win, but you were apoplectic when they signed Severino for the back of the rotation (to the same money as Carrasco got this past year to pitch to a 6 ERA).
you need to take a breath and let it play out, I'd rather if they miss on Yamamoto to sit on the sidelines and let Stearns build a team for the long haul. and no idea why are you concerned with the optics if they need to "overpay" Yamamoto, who cares it's one of the advantages of having Cohen as the owner. I don't mean it personally but you seem like you are having a breakdown. Maybe something else going on in your life bleeding into sports and you need an outlet or something. Maybe get some help. Seriously.
@JimBowdenGM
The latest that I'm hearing re: Yamamoto
Favorites to land him: #Dodgers or #Yankees
Expected highest bidders: #Mets or #Giants
Backburner teams: #RedSox #Phillies #BlueJays
Time Frame: This week
Projected contract: $250-$300 million
Expected posting fee: $50m
Expected length: 8-12 years depending on offer
Agent: Joel Wolfe - Wasserman
What's more important, offer or team situation: N/A
Now we wait.
Héctor Gómez
@hgomez27
Starling Marte will play in the Dominican Winter League with @EscogidoBBClub
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@mikemayer22
Starling Marte was at practice today with the Leones del Escogido of the Dominican Winter League.
The team says he took batting practice and they’re waiting to get permission from the Mets to activate Marte.
100%. i have no idea if they can measure sprint speed or bat speed in winter league, but he was so bad with the eye test in the field last year that alone would have value.
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I see two positive outcomes and one I wouldn't say is a negative but not as positive.
Outcome #1: We get Yamamoto. This is the most desirable to me. I am a believer, but I tend to be more on the optimistic side usually, but the potential build of the rotation with Yamamoto and Senga at the top seems like it would be very strong.
Outcome #2: We miss on Yamamoto, and are able to pivot and somehow get under the luxury tax threshold, resetting for the 2025 season. I still think this is a positive outcome. Whether or not Yamamoto is a Met, this is many ways is a development year for many prospects with the Mets both at the big club and in the high minors. The foundation, at least offensively, seems promising. I'm with (I think Eric on LI) who would really entertain moving Alonso in this scenario, hopefully Marte as well, and get us under the threshold.
This would allow Cohen to really be able to be uber aggressive next year and see what we have with the foundation moving forward.
Option #3: We miss on Yamamoto, but stay above the luxury tax. The worst option for me, but still, everything above holds true except the additional year of luxury tax implications. But with another losing season, I have to think the team has to consider re-setting that luxury tax.
I think it's the ridicule that is triggering me. I even have pjcas (who I like) going out of character.
Because you're acting like a spineless jellyfish. what ridicule? and who gives a F? You mentioned being a grown man and a father when I said you were acting like a loser - imagine how your behavior would look in the eyes of your children? it's a f-ing baseball team, we all want them to win, but you were apoplectic when they signed Severino for the back of the rotation (to the same money as Carrasco got this past year to pitch to a 6 ERA).
you need to take a breath and let it play out, I'd rather if they miss on Yamamoto to sit on the sidelines and let Stearns build a team for the long haul. and no idea why are you concerned with the optics if they need to "overpay" Yamamoto, who cares it's one of the advantages of having Cohen as the owner. I don't mean it personally but you seem like you are having a breakdown. Maybe something else going on in your life bleeding into sports and you need an outlet or something. Maybe get some help. Seriously.
pj - I said it as a compliment. We have had some pleasurable conversations about my son and youth hockey. So I recognize your handle as "a friend". It's an internet message board so I gambled and lost. I am not going to reply with insults because I think you're better than this. Just keep in mind something, you may not be fully aware what's going on in someone's life before you get mad. My fault for venting but I have had some pleasant exchanges with you. I am using this is an outlet and distraction.
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
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Mets acquiring RHP Adrian Houser and OF Tyrone Taylor from Brewers for a minor leaguer, source tells
@TheAthletic
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@MarinoMLB
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Eduardo Escobar for Coleman Crow and Landon Marceaux and then Coleman Crow for Houser and Tyrone Taylor is a pretty good outcome IMO. Very nice flipping.
he has played CF well by both DRS/OAA and can play all 3 positions. not huge splits in his career. he has 3 years of control and is cheap this year. this seems like a solid cheap backup CF.
never walks but not a huge k guy either. michael taylor or kiermeier likely better defenders but appears to be a good cheap alternative. his RC is actually predicted higher than keirmeier's next year. in 2022 he was worth 2 wins.
he looks to have a pretty similar floor to keirmeier with a little lower ceiling, but at a 1/10th the price.
seems like a pretty savvy move, especially if they are looking to fill some slots cheaply because they are spending bigger on 1-2 other pieces.
Not sexy, but desperately needed
i think this is almost definitely a sign they are out on keirmeir or m taylor.
t taylor has been the better hitter than m taylor last 3 years, also lower k. defense isn't gg like m taylor but it still appears +.
presuming stearns is familiar with both and thinks they are good fits, this seems like a nice value move. i think houser may be better than fedde would have been and he's cheaper.
From 2022
Track Record: Jensen touched 98 mph and was the Mountain West Conference pitcher of the year as a junior at Fresno State, but the Cubs still went above industry consensus when they drafted him 27th overall in 2019. Concerns about Jensen’s control appeared well-founded at the start of his full-season debut with High-A South Bend in 2021, but he locked in his delivery and release point midway through the year. He posted a 2.28 ERA in his final 11 starts and rose to Double-A.
Scouting Report: Jensen is undersized, but he is a power pitcher with a pair of plus-plus fastballs that overwhelm hitters. His four-seamer averages 96 mph and rides above barrels and his two-seamer averages 95 mph and breaks bats with its late run and bore. Jensen’s mid-80s slider with lateral run is an above-average pitch and he introduced a vertical curveball last year that flashes average. His upper-80s changeup gets swings and misses in the strike zone but doesn’t get chase swings. Jensen has an effortful delivery with a long arm action that leads to inconsistent mechanics and bouts of below-average control. He’s a good athlete who took off when he found a consistent release point.
The Future: Jensen has the stuff to be a hard-throwing back-end starter if he maintains his delivery and release point. If not, his stuff should play in late relief.
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In comment 16330235 allstarjim said:
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I see two positive outcomes and one I wouldn't say is a negative but not as positive.
Outcome #1: We get Yamamoto. This is the most desirable to me. I am a believer, but I tend to be more on the optimistic side usually, but the potential build of the rotation with Yamamoto and Senga at the top seems like it would be very strong.
Outcome #2: We miss on Yamamoto, and are able to pivot and somehow get under the luxury tax threshold, resetting for the 2025 season. I still think this is a positive outcome. Whether or not Yamamoto is a Met, this is many ways is a development year for many prospects with the Mets both at the big club and in the high minors. The foundation, at least offensively, seems promising. I'm with (I think Eric on LI) who would really entertain moving Alonso in this scenario, hopefully Marte as well, and get us under the threshold.
This would allow Cohen to really be able to be uber aggressive next year and see what we have with the foundation moving forward.
Option #3: We miss on Yamamoto, but stay above the luxury tax. The worst option for me, but still, everything above holds true except the additional year of luxury tax implications. But with another losing season, I have to think the team has to consider re-setting that luxury tax.
I think it's the ridicule that is triggering me. I even have pjcas (who I like) going out of character.
Because you're acting like a spineless jellyfish. what ridicule? and who gives a F? You mentioned being a grown man and a father when I said you were acting like a loser - imagine how your behavior would look in the eyes of your children? it's a f-ing baseball team, we all want them to win, but you were apoplectic when they signed Severino for the back of the rotation (to the same money as Carrasco got this past year to pitch to a 6 ERA).
you need to take a breath and let it play out, I'd rather if they miss on Yamamoto to sit on the sidelines and let Stearns build a team for the long haul. and no idea why are you concerned with the optics if they need to "overpay" Yamamoto, who cares it's one of the advantages of having Cohen as the owner. I don't mean it personally but you seem like you are having a breakdown. Maybe something else going on in your life bleeding into sports and you need an outlet or something. Maybe get some help. Seriously.
pj - I said it as a compliment. We have had some pleasurable conversations about my son and youth hockey. So I recognize your handle as "a friend". It's an internet message board so I gambled and lost. I am not going to reply with insults because I think you're better than this. Just keep in mind something, you may not be fully aware what's going on in someone's life before you get mad. My fault for venting but I have had some pleasant exchanges with you. I am using this is an outlet and distraction.
I hope things are ok with your personal life, the only reason I even commented the way I did is it seemed out of context the way you were acting/commenting.
no bad blood on my end.
Easy kid to root for
I hope things are ok with your personal life, the only reason I even commented the way I did is it seemed out of context the way you were acting/commenting.
no bad blood on my end.
I appreciate that pj. Thank you
Taylor has been excellent in a 4th OF role this year, hitting .282/.378/.564 in 45 PA with 3 HR and 1 SB. A quick return to the IL by Christian Yelich and a brutal start by Jackie Bradley Jr. should open up some more playing time for Taylor as opposed to just spotting in against lefties. Taylor averaged 20 HR and 10 SB per 500 PA in Triple-A with an .813 OPS.
I actually wrote Taylor up recently and he was sent down as I was finished that piece only to return almost immediately because of Yelich’s re-injury. I mentioned that he was mostly an NL-only consideration in that piece, but that was with Yelich and Lorenzo Cain returning to join JBJ and Avisaíl García. Cain is back and Garcia is surging, but as I mentioned earlier Bradley has struggled badly thus far (59 wRC+) so the Brewers would be justified in giving Taylor some more burn to see if he can do anything against righties.
"prototypical 4th of" seems to be the general consensus.
Easy kid to root for
I didn't but the scouts/Mets all think he's made for the big city. Doesn't get too high or low. Not quite David Wright but that "kind" of kid.
@martinonyc
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3m
It was Yamamoto or houser
Jk they’re very much hoping to sign Yamamoto this week
Yeah, both Houser and Lauer (currently a FA actually) have def being discussed on BBI.
If we are looking at Brewers depth arms, Eric Lauer is a FA. Horrendous 2023 but only 29 in June 2021-2022 almost 300 quality innings for MIL. Wouldn't be a horrible minor league deal, invite to ST
Michael Marino
@MarinoMLB
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Adrian Houser getting $6 million this year coming off a 1.8 WAR season. Lance Lynn signed for $11M this upcoming year coming off a 0.5 WAR season…there’s definitely some value here comparatively with Milwaukee trying to dump cash.
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as a possible return for like duda or someone like that.
Yeah, both Houser and Lauer (currently a FA actually) have def being discussed on BBI.
If we are looking at Brewers depth arms, Eric Lauer is a FA. Horrendous 2023 but only 29 in June 2021-2022 almost 300 quality innings for MIL. Wouldn't be a horrible minor league deal, invite to ST
Eric Lauer was really bad in 2023... BUT... 2021+2022 53 appearances (49 starts) 3.47 era/4.30 FIP over 277.1 innings. 100% think he'd be worth a minor league deal with an invite to ST
Mathew Brownstein
@MBrownstein89
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Adrian Houser was part of the deal that sent Josh Hader from the Astros to the Brewers in July 2015. Milwaukee sent Mike Fiers & Carlos Gómez to Houston.
This was after the failed trade between the #Mets & Brewers that had Zack Wheeler & Wilmer Flores being flipped for Gómez.
@ZackScottSports
Good deal for the Mets. Before the '21 season, the Brewers asked me about McNeil for Houser. This is better.😀 #Mets #Brewers #MLB
big years ahead for baty + vientos.
interesting deal - his median projected was 2x8m (16m). so he gets +5m guaranteed spread over more years.
clemens was high man on him at 3x10m.
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Eno did a good article on yamamoto that was also somewhat applicable to imanaga. yamamoto's 3 year k-bb% would be 3rd best on this list at 22.2%. in 2023 it was 22.5%.
in 2023 imanaga's k%-bb% = 25.8%
imanaga gave up homers at a 10x rate, most on this list, he's 5 years older than yamamoto, and his raw stuff isnt the same but after his stuff+ success in wbc and senga's over-performance last year who knows?
at various points ive wondered how much of the mets pitch to yamamoto is him leading a rotation that's all-team-japan and going full on 6 man.
magic wand best outcome of rest of offseason, this might be it:
yamamoto
senga
imanaga
severino
quintana
houser (competing w/ megill, luchesi, etc)
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garrett, bickford, short can all go. i assume milwaukee didnt want the salary, but drew smith getting swapped for more useful spare pieces not unlike yesterdays trade is another. 2 more IL spots eventually coming back also so they just need to preplan those maneuvers. presumably those spots will go to 2 arms on ST invites.