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NFT: Mets Thread - Happy Winter Meetings To All!!!

Shecky : 12/4/2023 10:28 am
- Luis Severino has joined the Mets in free agency after a mixed history with the Yankees. His career with the Yankees was marked by both success and extensive injuries. Severino signed a one-year, $13 million deal with the Mets.
Mets' Catching Depth:
- The Mets' catching depth is a concern, regarding Omar Narváez's performance and health. Cooper Hmel is considered a potential replacement for Narváez. They also picked up Tyler Heineman.
- Joey Wendle was picked up to replace LG as the utility man.
- Kyle Crick, a new Mets relief pitcher, has joined on a minor league deal with hopes of strengthening the bullpen.
The Mets have signed Austin Adams, Joseph Yabbour, Andre Scrubb and Cole Sulser to aid bullpen depth.

Mets Winter Meetings Focus:
- The Mets are expected to be active at the Winter Meetings, with a focus on acquiring an outfielder, starting pitching, and relief pitching. They are also interested in improving run prevention and outfield defense.
- The team may engage in trade talks, expect to hear the usual prospect names such as Kevin Parada, Brett Baty, Mark Vientos, and Ronny Mauricio.

Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Player Meetings:
- The New York Mets are planning to meet with Japanese pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto in the next week and he is expected to continue to draw significant interest from MLB teams.
- Shohei Ohtani is also expected to make a decision on his next team soon, with bids for his services surpassing $500 million.
- The Mets are also considering Korean outfielder Jung Hoo Lee.

Summary from pre Winter Meeting thread:

Hall of Fame Ballot Newbies: Inclusion of players like Big Sexy, Wright, and Reyes in the Hall of Fame ballot.
- Several iconic Yankees and Mets greats were in contention for Hall of Fame induction, but they fell short of the required votes.
Management and Coaching Updates: Significant changes in the Mets' management and coaching staff, including a new contract for manager Mendoza. Bench coach vacancy and role shifts for Eric Chavez and Jeremy Barnes as hitting coaches. Introduction of Kris Gross and Andy Green in player development and amateur scouting.

Pitching Strategy and Market Moves: Focus on fortifying the rotation, implications of the Cardinals' signings, and the pursuit of high-caliber pitchers.

Bullpen and Player Performance: Signing of BP arms to minor league deals and review of the players.
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dan or anyone with a BA membership able to get the mets relevant info?  
Eric on Li : 12/31/2023 11:43 am : link
this would seem an unexpected positive.

Baseball America
@BaseballAmerica
#BestofBA2023

We examined how all 30 major league farm systems ranked based on advanced statcast pitching data



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Our Methodology

For each organization, team-level metrics such as xwOBA (expected weighted on-base average) were calculated by aggregating the metrics of each pitcher in the organization, weighted by the number of pitches thrown in 2023 by each pitcher. The xwOBA stat measures how hitters are expected to perform statistically against these pitches based on their batted ball data

The overall Stuff+ number is a blended metric of each organization’s STF+ (based on our internal model), per pitch Run Value, xwOBA, and pitch quality metrics such as in-zone whiff% and chase %. The resultant number was then scaled on a wRC+ scale where 100 is average and a standard deviation is 10 points. In other words, an organization with an overall Stuff+ number of 90 is one standard deviation worse than a league-average organization.

Players between the ages of 17 to 26 years old were included in this study. Any pitcher older than that was eliminated to minimize the impact of older pitchers on rehabilitation stints or older veterans who make up a great deal of the Triple-A pitching staffs. We are trying to view the developing pitching talent in each organization, not the team’s ability to stock quality MiLB free agents into Triple-A bullpens.

We also removed all players who spent the entirety of their season at the complex level. There’s less reliability within the data at that level and its impact on overall performance could cloud the final results.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2023-mlb-farm-system-statcast-pitching-rankings/ - ( New Window )
Eric  
DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 1:18 pm : link
That’s an old piece (I referenced it before). Funny thing is… they only ranked the Mets top 3 P’s 6-8-9 in the system with Vasil having 4-5 upside so essentially what they are saying is the data is pretty good but the talent level isn’t yet that great. Here is the Mets centric blurb


“ The Mets perform well across all metrics. They rank fourth for in-zone whiff, sixth in chase rate and ninth in xwOBA against. They have some interesting traits under the hood, they rank first in extension, sixth in four-seam fastball xwOBA, third in slider in-zone whiff and fourth in changeup in-zone whiff. They also throw the fourth most amount of sliders of any organization.”


Here are the top five teams in each metric.

In-Zone Whiff Percentage
Rays
Yankees
Dodgers
Mets
Rangers
Chase Percentage
Blue Jays
Yankees
Tigers
Braves
Rays
xWOBA
Rays
Orioles
Yankees
Royals
Giants
Thank u dmm  
Eric on Li : 12/31/2023 1:26 pm : link
Didn’t remember that one. Scout the stat line had some met pitchers also over ranked relative to prospect ranks so I’d imagine there’s some crossover there. The stuff+ is interesting, I think whatever we have publicly is prob a joke compared to what teams have but that seems to be something that continues to be predictive to where teams place value (yamamoto).
Sox  
DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 1:50 pm : link
are shopping Jansen as a salary dump to try and sign an unnamed FA, (Montgomery/Teoscar have both been mentioned). Jansen doesn't make a ton of sense for the Mets unless it were a pure dump and I get the feeling the Sox would "do him right" as a potential future HOFer. Highly doubt he wants to set up for Edwin Diaz. He's 80 saves from 500, 17 saves behind K-Rod for 4th all-time, 58 from Lee Smith (3rd all-time). Just hope Philadelphia or LAD doesn't get him as a pure dump aka free talent.
Only  
DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 1:51 pm : link
other bad money on the Sox books is Story and nobody is touching that (4 for 95) but hey, if they want to send Roman Anthony our way... sign me up lol
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DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 1:54 pm : link


@WexlerRules
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12m
@ZackScottSports
Zack, how true do you think "money talks" is when dealing with FA's? What % of FA's actually take less to join a good team? How transparent are FA's (agents) when they don't find a market appealing? Do players ever actually cite media/fans as deterrents?
Zack Scott


@ZackScottSports
The overwhelming majority of FAs go to the highest bidder. I don't recall an agent citing media/fans as a deterrent. My sense, for example, was that deGrom preferred a few landing spots and his agent still got a great contract despite those potential limitations.
Jansen back to lad makes a lot of sense  
Eric on Li : 12/31/2023 1:56 pm : link
Exact type of move they make, Bos probably throws in a little
$ and gets some guy from lad 40 man they may not even have room for.
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Eric on Li : 12/31/2023 2:02 pm : link
In comment 16340396 DanMetroMan said:
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@WexlerRules
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12m
@ZackScottSports
Zack, how true do you think "money talks" is when dealing with FA's? What % of FA's actually take less to join a good team? How transparent are FA's (agents) when they don't find a market appealing? Do players ever actually cite media/fans as deterrents?
Zack Scott


@ZackScottSports
The overwhelming majority of FAs go to the highest bidder. I don't recall an agent citing media/fans as a deterrent. My sense, for example, was that deGrom preferred a few landing spots and his agent still got a great contract despite those potential limitations.


This is why Mets have a chance with anyone but especially boras clients and players subject to posting process.

i think I saw Wolfe is now the agent for sasaki, obviously how he comes to mlb is unknown but I think a part of Wolfe keeping that pipeline is that he isn’t leaving $ on table for the teams. He threaded a tricky needle with yamamoto getting to his preferred destination.
Story and  
DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 2:26 pm : link
Kenley would save Boston 111 million. I don't actually think Boston wants to move that money enough to trade Anthony but I'd make the call. Send Kenley to a third team for an additional prospect. I don't think the Red Sox are desperate enough for Teoscar Hernandez do something idiotic so they will probably just move Kenley and cash for a prospect or 2.
On  
DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 2:27 pm : link
the extension "offer" DeGrom's agent presented to the Mets



@ZackScottSports
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4m
Replying to
@DVainchenker

@bulkypenguin47
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@WexlerRules
We had two years of control remaining at a club-friendly luxury tax number. He was seeking a deal that I believed could only be attained as a free agent. Extensions two years in advance of FA typically have some element of risk sharing, but this did not.
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 3:04 pm : link
like whichever team gives Teoscar 4 years will land him. I'll guess Boston, I don't think LAD is as desperate.
RE: Sounds  
Eric on Li : 12/31/2023 3:11 pm : link
In comment 16340708 DanMetroMan said:
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like whichever team gives Teoscar 4 years will land him. I'll guess Boston, I don't think LAD is as desperate.


lad very confident on a rh hitter (I assume it’s him).
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DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 3:16 pm : link
I would not be shocked to see @mets sign Matt Bush to a minor league deal. Spent almost 1 year in the Brewers organization. Ancient but good season as recently as 2022 (59.2 innings 43 hits 18 walks 74 k's 3.47 era) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 12/31/2023 4:43 pm : link
Sportsnet
Verified

@Sportsnet
According to industry sources, Joc Pederson is drawing serious interest from the Blue Jays, whose greatest need is offence at this point in the off-season.

Link - ( New Window )
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pjcas18 : 12/31/2023 4:51 pm : link
In comment 16341524 DanMetroMan said:
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Sportsnet
Verified

@Sportsnet
According to industry sources, Joc Pederson is drawing serious interest from the Blue Jays, whose greatest need is offence at this point in the off-season. Link - ( New Window )


Be awesome if they sign Pham too.

I'd actually sign Pham if I were the Mets he was much different than I expected, but he's a better fit on a contender IMO.
Pham would be a good sign  
Eric on Li : 12/31/2023 8:35 pm : link
He hit well all around including for az and is at least competent in the field.

There are a handful of every day players left who can help them so value hunting there and waiting out the market is no issue. They could add 2-3 fwar by grabbing 1 or 2 fairly priced veterans for depth.
mlbtr had an interesting post today updating teams FA spending so far  
Eric on Li : 1/1/2024 10:48 pm : link
lad the most obviously at 1.043bn
phi 2nd thanks to nola at 172m
az 3rd with 122m
sfg 4th with 121m
cin 5th with 106m
kc 6th with 105m
st lou 7th with 99m
det 8th with 45m
bos 9th with 39m
atl 10th with 30m

nym 16th with 18m spent

probably $400m left to be spent on the top 3 remaining pitchers. maybe $500m if you add in hader. just 6 weeks from ST and a lot still on the board.
Each Team’s Free Agent Spending Thus Far - ( New Window )
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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 11:50 am : link
My personal top 5 wish list (SP FA edition)
1. Imanaga
2. Rodriguez
3. Manaea
4. Paxton
5.Junis
Ideal world @mets add 2 of these guys. Doesn't appear they are "in" on Rodriguez and Junis would be a speculative "shot to start headed into ST out of ST, or move to BP" #Mets
MLBTR  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 11:54 am : link
Things get a little more interesting when digging deeper into his season, which may give more insight into his decision to try free agency again. Notably, Manaea added a sweeper this year and had great results with it. Per Statcast data, he first threw the pitch on May 30 and ultimately tossed it 214 times, 10.4% of his pitches thrown on the season overall. He felt comfortable throwing it to both righties and lefties, with a perfect split of 107 sweepers thrown to each. That resulted in a huge whiff percentage of 35.1% and a batting line of .140/.161/.163. Even when batters did make contact, the 82.8mph average exit velocity was easily the lowest of any of his offerings.

The impact on his overall results is quite clear. In his first 11 appearances of the year, prior to introducing the sweeper, he had a 6.61 ERA, 28.9% strikeout rate, 12.5% walk rate, 32.6% ground ball rate and eight home runs in just 32 2/3 innings. The rest of the way, he had a 3.60 ERA, 24.2% strikeout rate, 6.6% walk rate, 44% ground ball rate and six home runs in 85 innings. The Giants gave him four actual starts to finish the year and he posted a 2.25 ERA in those, averaging six innings per start.

This is still a fairly small sample size of results but the change in his arsenal at least gives some reason to believe that it may not just be a fluke. Last month, Driveline tweeted some video of a session with Manaea which showed him also trying out a splitter, perhaps suggesting Manaea is still trying to find yet another gear going forward.
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bigbluehoya : 1/2/2024 11:55 am : link
In comment 16344149 DanMetroMan said:
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My personal top 5 wish list (SP FA edition)
1. Imanaga
2. Rodriguez
3. Manaea
4. Paxton
5.Junis
Ideal world @mets add 2 of these guys. Doesn't appear they are "in" on Rodriguez and Junis would be a speculative "shot to start headed into ST out of ST, or move to BP" #Mets


I'm a NYY fan just scrolling for baseball content, but enjoy your baseball postings here and on twitter and was curious...

do you really prefer guys like Paxton and Junis to a Mike Cleavinger or Michael Lorenzen?

I'm guessing you're including an expected dollar cost as part of the reason you have those guys where you do, but just something that I've been ruminating on as a fan of NYY who are similarly in need of pitching with the options seemingly dwidling by the week.
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Section331 : 1/2/2024 12:01 pm : link
In comment 16344149 DanMetroMan said:
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My personal top 5 wish list (SP FA edition)
1. Imanaga
2. Rodriguez
3. Manaea
4. Paxton
5.Junis
Ideal world @mets add 2 of these guys. Doesn't appear they are "in" on Rodriguez and Junis would be a speculative "shot to start headed into ST out of ST, or move to BP" #Mets


I’m glad to see you list Imanaga #1. If the price is right, I think he makes a ton of sense for NYM, but I haven’t seen anything linking the Mets to him.
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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 12:08 pm : link
In comment 16344161 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 16344149 DanMetroMan said:


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My personal top 5 wish list (SP FA edition)
1. Imanaga
2. Rodriguez
3. Manaea
4. Paxton
5.Junis
Ideal world @mets add 2 of these guys. Doesn't appear they are "in" on Rodriguez and Junis would be a speculative "shot to start headed into ST out of ST, or move to BP" #Mets



I'm a NYY fan just scrolling for baseball content, but enjoy your baseball postings here and on twitter and was curious...

do you really prefer guys like Paxton and Junis to a Mike Cleavinger or Michael Lorenzen?

I'm guessing you're including an expected dollar cost as part of the reason you have those guys where you do, but just something that I've been ruminating on as a fan of NYY who are similarly in need of pitching with the options seemingly dwidling by the week.


In the case of Lorenzen, he was truly awful post trade to the Phillies (people sort of forget about this because he threw a no-hitter) but post trade to the Phillies 5.51 era/5.81 FIP, 5.3 k's/3.8 BB. Over his final 9 appearances....6.98 FIP, 8.01 era. He was so bad, the Phillies opted not to use him in the playoffs. He's about to be 32 (I realize, Paxton is even older) but the upside is extremely limited and the batted ball data wasn't very good.

In the case of Clevinger (33), he has a very poor reputation as a teammate/off the field, poor with the media etc. Just feels like a bad fit for the Mets with a rookie manager in what may be a trying season. They could certainly do worse than Clevinger but 2 TJ's, looking for multiple seasons, 33 years old etc just don't like the fit for the Mets.
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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 12:09 pm : link
In comment 16344172 Section331 said:
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In comment 16344149 DanMetroMan said:


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My personal top 5 wish list (SP FA edition)
1. Imanaga
2. Rodriguez
3. Manaea
4. Paxton
5.Junis
Ideal world @mets add 2 of these guys. Doesn't appear they are "in" on Rodriguez and Junis would be a speculative "shot to start headed into ST out of ST, or move to BP" #Mets



I’m glad to see you list Imanaga #1. If the price is right, I think he makes a ton of sense for NYM, but I haven’t seen anything linking the Mets to him.


Imanaga's deadline to sign is 1/11. He's reportedly going to be making some visits, so we should have some clarity on the Mets interest soon.
Probably  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 12:09 pm : link
just a total BS rumor but there is a reddit post floating around from a guy claiming Snell will sign with the Red Sox. As I said, probably not true.
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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 12:31 pm : link
* Not a Mets post* but wild how Tim Anderson's market has been completely silent. Had an AWFUL season (and was KO'ed) but 4.6 fWAR in 21 (118 wRC+), 2.0 fWAR over 79 games in 22 (110 wRC+) and still only 30/31. Maybe Alomar rapid decline 2.0 but could be a bargain for somebody
Looks  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 3:28 pm : link
like Mets made subtle changes to the black hats

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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 3:41 pm : link
Missed this... Phillies, Blue Jays, Cardinals first 3 teams with "confirmed" City Connect jerseys in 2024. That would leave 7 teams yet to announce or debut theirs... Oakland is going to be... awkward.
Not even just Mets  
pjcas18 : 1/2/2024 4:25 pm : link
related, but does anyone else feel like this is the coldest hot stove season ever.
RE: Not even just Mets  
Eric on Li : 1/2/2024 4:36 pm : link
In comment 16344607 pjcas18 said:
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related, but does anyone else feel like this is the coldest hot stove season ever.


yes it blows. i think in hindsight it may end up because of the dual postings since it seems like nobody is in a rush to deal with boras before imanaga. only 6 weeks until ST and 7 of FG top 12 FA still out there.
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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 5:31 pm : link
I assume because they needed swelling to go down? But per @WillSammon Ronny Mauricio has yet to undergo surgery to repair his ACL but that sounds imminent.
Baseball  
GF1080 : 1/2/2024 5:33 pm : link
I said this over a month ago but was told to wait and still not much has happened. Baseball and the FOs have killed the off-season. It moves at a glacial pace with a reassesment of the market after every FA signs. It's been like this but getting worse every year. There's only been one somewhat major trade as well correct? Absolute boredom.
I don't see how Mets fans can really complain about the past couple  
pjcas18 : 1/2/2024 5:52 pm : link
off-seasons.

2022:
Marte, Scherzer, Bassitt, Otto, etc.

2023:
Senga, Verlander, Robertson, Nimmo extension, Diaz extension (until the WBC at least we could be happy about it)

this year is completely different - and I'm not even unhappy about it. it's just slow and boring.

And I could of wish they'd trade the scrap parts and get closer to the LT to get under it next year and reset.
they are projected about $100m under threshold for next year right now  
Eric on Li : 1/2/2024 6:06 pm : link
with nobody of note due for a big arbitration award and that's with 17.5m retained if JV's option kicks in (so they'd have more room if it doesnt). $ flexibility beyond this year isn't as much of a problem as having enough pitching depth to keep building forward.
RE: they are projected about $100m under threshold for next year right now  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 6:23 pm : link
In comment 16344696 Eric on Li said:
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with nobody of note due for a big arbitration award and that's with 17.5m retained if JV's option kicks in (so they'd have more room if it doesnt). $ flexibility beyond this year isn't as much of a problem as having enough pitching depth to keep building forward.


In fairness, that’s minus nearly 30 million for Alonso (assuming he’s back)
Probably  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 6:26 pm : link
Want to knock out a Senga extension as well if he’s anywhere near 2023 Senga. He’s an absolute lock to opt out if he continues pitching anywhere near as well as 2023 in a world where Severino got 13, Flaherty got 14, Montas got 16 at 15 per. Heck, even if he’s simply just “healthy” he’ll get much more than he’s currently making
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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 6:54 pm : link
In comment 16344149 DanMetroMan said:
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My personal top 5 wish list (SP FA edition)
1. Imanaga
2. Rodriguez
3. Manaea
4. Paxton
5.Junis
Ideal world @mets add 2 of these guys. Doesn't appear they are "in" on Rodriguez and Junis would be a speculative "shot to start headed into ST out of ST, or move to BP" #Mets


With all of the driveline guys they have brought in I’m sure they are considering Manaea. His new sweeper looks like a weapon and now he’s working on a splitter with driveline
Martino  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 7:03 pm : link
Believes they only add another back end arm as they don’t want to block Megill, Peterson (who will miss half the season) and Vasil

-doesn’t expect them to sign JDM… don’t want to block Vientos and Stewart… maybe they should check Stewart’s September and age…he’s not a prospect. If true… going to be a long season.
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DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 7:10 pm : link
How many ? players can you rely on and actually compete? Severino, Baty, Vientos, Stewart, Taylor, Megill, Peterson, most of the bullpen, Marte, all of the yet to debut prospects and that’s with Houser being solid but a back end type, Quintana being 35 and Senga with 1 MLB season under his belt…
RE: Martino  
Section331 : 1/2/2024 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16344753 DanMetroMan said:
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Believes they only add another back end arm as they don’t want to block Megill, Peterson (who will miss half the season) and Vasil

-doesn’t expect them to sign JDM… don’t want to block Vientos and Stewart… maybe they should check Stewart’s September and age…he’s not a prospect. If true… going to be a long season.


If they’re making FA decisions based on Megill and Peterson, we’re in for a world of hurt. If they’re not good enough, they should be blocked.
Pipeline  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 7:22 pm : link
Jeremy Rodriguez (No. 47/NYM No. 30)
Dykstra: We just put him onto the Mets list at No. 30. He will be moving up when we do our update here in a few months. But, Jeremy Rodriguez was one of the younger players in the DSL this year, only turned 17 on the fourth of July. He was moved from the D-backs to the Mets pretty quickly after that in the Tommy Pham deal. What I like about Jeremy Rodriguez is he doesn’t swing and miss very much, at least, for that level and especially for his age. That especially came through after the trade, you know, it was a very small sample, he only played 13 games for the Mets’ DSL affiliate. But in those 13 games he walked 11 times and struck out only four. Showed some good speed too with seven steals. He’s got mostly gap power right now. All the reports we got on him when he first signed with the D-backs for $1.25 million, which was their biggest signing last year, was that power could come for him eventually, it’s mostly to the gaps right now. It’s going to take a while for that to develop, I think. But that fact that he’s making some really interesting swing decisions, he is putting bat on ball – especially relative to his age – it’s a strong start. Could play short, could play second base, we’ll see how he ends up defensively. But, this could end up being, you know, for just a few months of Tommy Pham, a pretty strong pickup for the Mets if he continues on this developmental path.
Paternostro  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 7:23 pm : link
Actually said Rodriguez had a lot of similarities to Vargas with more power potential
RE: Paternostro  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 7:24 pm : link
In comment 16344779 DanMetroMan said:
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Actually said Rodriguez had a lot of similarities to Vargas with more power potential


He did say he was in wait and see mode on Vargas when it comes to hitting better pitching and making an impact. Felt his type advanced approach with less “athletic” guys ends up being just that. Wasn’t really being a hater more the profile
RE: Martino  
GF1080 : 1/2/2024 7:32 pm : link
In comment 16344753 DanMetroMan said:
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Believes they only add another back end arm as they don’t want to block Megill, Peterson (who will miss half the season) and Vasil

-doesn’t expect them to sign JDM… don’t want to block Vientos and Stewart… maybe they should check Stewart’s September and age…he’s not a prospect. If true… going to be a long season.



Yikes. Maybe Stearns wants a full year to evaluate everyone before he starts to make the big decisions? I don't know that's all I got.
I think that it’s clear now that they were being truthful  
CooperDash : 1/2/2024 7:46 pm : link
to Scherzer when they told him they (essentially) were going to punt 2024. Because, from an off-season perspective, that’s exactly what they are doing. Their pursuit of YY doesn’t change that for me. The Mets haven’t done anything and don’t really seem to want to.

The funny thing is - that doesn’t bother me as much as hearing from a reporter that the Mets don’t want to block Megill or Peterson. Gross. Really hope that’s not true. But I am a little surprised that they don’t want to improve some of the biggest holes on this team. Next year is going to suck…again.
RE: RE: they are projected about $100m under threshold for next year right now  
Eric on Li : 1/2/2024 7:54 pm : link
In comment 16344714 DanMetroMan said:
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with nobody of note due for a big arbitration award and that's with 17.5m retained if JV's option kicks in (so they'd have more room if it doesnt). $ flexibility beyond this year isn't as much of a problem as having enough pitching depth to keep building forward.



In fairness, that’s minus nearly 30 million for Alonso (assuming he’s back)


That assumption hasnt seemed like a foregone conclusion since the deadline and if martino ends up right that severino is their sp3 I’d say it’s probably 50/50 odds they are out of the race and deal Alonso at deadline. And if they deal Alonso why not deal senga too assuming he’ll waive his ntc? He’s about to turn 31.

It looks like martino also said “it’s possible but not probable” they sign imanaga, so I’m going to hold out hope this is a lot of posturing and at minimum they’ll spend a chunk of money on 1 year deals to try to compete.
Padres  
DanMetroMan : 1/2/2024 10:11 pm : link
Sign Go
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DanMetroMan : 1/3/2024 8:36 am : link
@mets to sign 2/50 top bonuses on the IFA market per @BaseballAmerica 5. Yovanny Rodriguez, C, Venezuela

43. Edward Lantigua, OF, Dominican Republic #Mets
It’s kind of crazy how entitled  
bhill410 : 1/3/2024 8:51 am : link
We have gotten as a fan base. We swung for the fences and missed. We are I believe only 6ish million over the competitive tax rate, I am sure there is a temptation to press the reset button and move forward with a cleaner slate rather than have to cut 100 million tax checks every year. I realize there are not a great crop of free agents next year, but it’s okay not to be reckless and rely upon multiple uncertain things panning out(like Giolito bouncing back).

Yea it’s been a bad offseason starting with the draft spot. But we will likely have to take a couple of lumps to let this franchise start to function on an elite level and that includes letting player development catch up.
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DanMetroMan : 1/3/2024 8:54 am : link
In comment 16344670 DanMetroMan said:
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I assume because they needed swelling to go down? But per @WillSammon Ronny Mauricio has yet to undergo surgery to repair his ACL but that sounds imminent.


Hector Gomez says he had the surgery yesterday. Gomez has had incorrect Mauricio information in the past (twice reporting he was promoted when he wasn’t) so grain of salt but it fits the timeline Sammon noted “shortly after new years”
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DanMetroMan : 1/3/2024 9:04 am : link
In comment 16345009 DanMetroMan said:
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@mets to sign 2/50 top bonuses on the IFA market per @BaseballAmerica 5. Yovanny Rodriguez, C, Venezuela

43. Edward Lantigua, OF, Dominican Republic #Mets


I think most are aware of this at this point but these agreement pre-date Stearns and in fact the Mets 2025 class also is via Eppler as well as some 2026/2027 names. 2025 will see the Mets give out their biggest bonus of the IFA pool era.
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