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GBN Draft Report: Post-College Season 1st Round Mock Draft

M.S. : 12/6/2023 5:40 am
The Giants are picking 7th and many BBIers will love GBN's selection.

But just a reminder, as our friends at GBN have said many times before, "... the value of a projection at this time is not that we... are going to tell you with any accuracy at all which teams are going to take which particular player. Hopefully, though, it will give people a bit of an idea which players are likely to be selected at different points in the draft based on current intelligence."

One-quarter of the first round is devoted to offensive tackles and between them and WRs you practically have half the first round:

OT/ 8
WR/ 7
CB/ 5
QB/ 5
DE/ 4
DT/ 2
TE/ 1
Total/ 32

Eight schools have placed at least 2 prospects into the first round of this mock with the SEC leading the way with four players each from Alabama and LSU. The way college football is going, I fully expect the NFL's next expansion to include these two teams:

Alabama/ 4
LSU/ 4
Penn State/ 3
Florida State/ 2
Georgia/ 2
Ohio State/ 2
Oregon/ 2
Washington/ 2


GBN Mock First Round Draft (December 5th) - ( New Window )
This is the right idea  
Chris684 : 12/6/2023 7:03 am : link
But I’d love to get up to at least 5, preferably 4.

4 is obviously where 1 of the big 3 QBs or MHjr are guaranteed.
Works for me.  
Giantophile : 12/6/2023 7:25 am : link
Interesting to see Nix climb into the top 10. His stock seems to be rising of late. I find him hard to assess as he is constantly throwing from a squeaky clean pocket.
RE: This is the right idea  
M.S. : 12/6/2023 7:37 am : link
In comment 16314661 Chris684 said:
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But I’d love to get up to at least 5, preferably 4.

4 is obviously where 1 of the big 3 QBs or MHjr are guaranteed.

Based on The Athletic's December 5th projection, the Giants are drafting 5th (expected 5.2 wins.) They also have a .4% chance of making the playoffs!
Problem here is the notion  
Gruber : 12/6/2023 8:59 am : link
that Washington will not go QB with their first pick.
Would love for Troy Fautanu to slide down to us in 2nd round  
Rick in Dallas : 12/6/2023 9:04 am : link
He would make a great OG imv
Also versatile to play OT at NFL level.
RE: Problem here is the notion  
uther99 : 12/6/2023 9:09 am : link
In comment 16314704 Gruber said:
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that Washington will not go QB with their first pick.


I can't see Washington passing on a QB
RE: RE: Problem here is the notion  
Dankbeerman : 12/6/2023 9:12 am : link
In comment 16314715 uther99 said:
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that Washington will not go QB with their first pick.



I can't see Washington passing on a QB
More importantly if they do pass they would likely trade 4 to someone who will.
Good think we’re taking Daniels because he can clearly run...  
Simms11 : 12/6/2023 9:34 am : link
Which he’ll be doing a lot of here!
Washington is off this week  
Chris684 : 12/6/2023 9:35 am : link
But then plays Rams, Jets, Niners and Cowboys.

If they beat the Jets and we lost out we would be back in front of them.

Not that I root for losses but I think wins are going to be very hard to come by for us over these next 5 weeks.
FSU players are allowed to go first round  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2023 10:20 am : link
With Jordan Travis hurt?
RE: Would love for Troy Fautanu to slide down to us in 2nd round  
M.S. : 12/6/2023 10:33 am : link
In comment 16314711 Rick in Dallas said:
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He would make a great OG imv
Also versatile to play OT at NFL level.

THAT would be nice… very nice!!!
I  
AcidTest : 12/6/2023 10:47 am : link
don't see the Commanders or Jets passing on a QB, whether that is Daniels, Nix, or someone else. That is especially true with the Commanders since Rivera will almost certainly be fired at the end of the season. Their new coach will most likely want his own QB, not Howell. And he will have the chance to take one without having to mortgage future drafts.

The Jets also need a QB. Z. Wilson is done and G. Wilson would likely prefer a QB who can get him the ball regularly.
Every year  
Giants : 12/6/2023 11:21 am : link
Teams over value QBs in the draft. It's the reason why so many haven't worked out. Fans are guilty of doing the same thing. The desire to have a elite QB leads to this over valuing theses QB
Drafting a qb when the Giants already have a very good qb and  
Jack Stroud : 12/6/2023 11:39 am : link
back up will not make this team any better! With a less than average oline a rookie qb is not the answer. Draft oline, pass rushers, that at least makes them a better team.
Dan Snyder's Commanders  
Lambuth_Special : 12/6/2023 12:02 pm : link
Would be the type of franchise to pass on QB and convince themselves on Howell.

Josh Harris's Commanders likely won't. Harris openly tanked the Sixers for 3 years to get a franchise player before the Adam Silver stepped in and forced them to hire Coangelo. Once it became clear that Embiid was the guy, they've been very aggressive in trying to pair him with no. 2 and no.3 superstars. The Sixers (and the fanbase) have not been satisfied with being a perpetual 3 seed and going out in the second round.

Maybe he'll run an NFL team differently, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who will talk himself into a quarterback who could maybe deliver 9 or 10 wins in good circumsstances (*cough cough*).

RE: Drafting a qb when the Giants already have a very good qb and  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2023 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16314915 Jack Stroud said:
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back up will not make this team any better! With a less than average oline a rookie qb is not the answer. Draft oline, pass rushers, that at least makes them a better team.


Just because you keep saying they have a very good QB doesn’t make it true
RE: FSU players are allowed to go first round  
Eman11 : 12/6/2023 1:20 pm : link
In comment 16314789 ajr2456 said:
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With Jordan Travis hurt?


Trying to muck up another good thread?

Do everyone a favor and give it a rest.
RE: RE: FSU players are allowed to go first round  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2023 2:31 pm : link
In comment 16315043 Eman11 said:
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With Jordan Travis hurt?



Trying to muck up another good thread?

Do everyone a favor and give it a rest.



Have a sense of humor loser, it was a joke.
RE: RE: Drafting a qb when the Giants already have a very good qb and  
Milton : 12/6/2023 4:02 pm : link
In comment 16315003 ajr2456 said:
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back up will not make this team any better! With a less than average oline a rookie qb is not the answer. Draft oline, pass rushers, that at least makes them a better team.



Just because you keep saying they have a very good QB doesn’t make it true
Wait, are you accusing him of repeating him opinion on Jones? Is there anyone on BBI who hasn't given their opinion on Jones at least a hundred times in the past 100 days? None of what any of us says makes any of what we say true.
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McCarthy  
BigBlueCane : 12/6/2023 4:06 pm : link
over Daniels please.

I feel better that Colin thinks the other way.
RE: Drafting a qb when the Giants already have a very good qb and  
Go Terps : 12/6/2023 4:07 pm : link
In comment 16314915 Jack Stroud said:
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back up will not make this team any better! With a less than average oline a rookie qb is not the answer. Draft oline, pass rushers, that at least makes them a better team.


Jumping the gun a bit on DeVito, aren't you?
RE: RE: RE: Drafting a qb when the Giants already have a very good qb and  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2023 4:09 pm : link
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back up will not make this team any better! With a less than average oline a rookie qb is not the answer. Draft oline, pass rushers, that at least makes them a better team.



Just because you keep saying they have a very good QB doesn’t make it true

Wait, are you accusing him of repeating him opinion on Jones? Is there anyone on BBI who hasn't given their opinion on Jones at least a hundred times in the past 100 days? None of what any of us says makes any of what we say true. It's not what you look like when you're doing what you're doing... - ( New Window )


But what I’m saying is true. That’s why the Giants are looking to upgrade at QB.
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Eman11 : 12/6/2023 4:39 pm : link
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With Jordan Travis hurt?



Trying to muck up another good thread?

Do everyone a favor and give it a rest.




Have a sense of humor loser, it was a joke.


You’re resorting to childish name calling and I’m the loser? Now that’s funny.

It was hard enough to follow your moving the goal posts so much in the other thread, How the hell am I or anyone else supposed to know you were trying to make a joke with this post?
RE: FSU players are allowed to go first round  
bw in dc : 12/6/2023 4:55 pm : link
In comment 16314789 ajr2456 said:
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With Jordan Travis hurt?


Lol.

Any truth to the rumor the Noles may boycott the Orange Bowl?
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Milton : 12/6/2023 5:03 pm : link
In comment 16315263 ajr2456 said:
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But what I’m saying is true. That’s why the Giants are looking to upgrade at QB.
The Giants are looking to upgrade the QB position in the draft, that much I agree with. I doubt they have given up on Jones, but they surely must be concerned about his ability to stay healthy. When you have a top five or so pick, you don't pass on a QB who is worthy of such a selection. But you don't reach and you don't give up the farm for one. You simply prioritize it in the draft and you look for the right opportunity to land one that you covet, somebody you think you can win with, somebody that is very coachable.
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ajr2456 : 12/6/2023 5:06 pm : link
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With Jordan Travis hurt?



Lol.

Any truth to the rumor the Noles may boycott the Orange Bowl?


Nope, they’re will be a lot of opt outs though. The rumor was started because the press conference was canceled. That was because Kirby and Norvell were out recruiting
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ajr2456 : 12/6/2023 5:08 pm : link
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But what I’m saying is true. That’s why the Giants are looking to upgrade at QB.

The Giants are looking to upgrade the QB position in the draft, that much I agree with. I doubt they have given up on Jones, but they surely must be concerned about his ability to stay healthy. When you have a top five or so pick, you don't pass on a QB who is worthy of such a selection. But you don't reach and you don't give up the farm for one. You simply prioritize it in the draft and you look for the right opportunity to land one that you covet, somebody you think you can win with, somebody that is very coachable.


That’s not entirely true. If they were 100% sold they wouldn’t be looking, like the Bengals did when they took Chase.

They started looking well before Jones got hurt
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bw in dc : 12/6/2023 5:16 pm : link
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Lol.

Any truth to the rumor the Noles may boycott the Orange Bowl?



Nope, they’re will be a lot of opt outs though. The rumor was started because the press conference was canceled. That was because Kirby and Norvell were out recruiting


The portal entry date(s) need to be changed. Way too much overlap with the traditional HS recruiting and coaches changing jobs.
The problem with them not overlapping  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2023 5:22 pm : link
Is if the portal is after signing day, you’ll have guys pushed out for high school kids and less options of where to go. On the other hand it’s definitely screwing over the bottom third of the high school kids. They need to just make them employees and sign them to contracts
RE: RE: RE: Drafting a qb when the Giants already have a very good qb and  
dancing blue bear : 12/6/2023 5:49 pm : link
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back up will not make this team any better! With a less than average oline a rookie qb is not the answer. Draft oline, pass rushers, that at least makes them a better team.



Just because you keep saying they have a very good QB doesn’t make it true

Wait, are you accusing him of repeating him opinion on Jones? Is there anyone on BBI who hasn't given their opinion on Jones at least a hundred times in the past 100 days? None of what any of us says makes any of what we say true. It's not what you look like when you're doing what you're doing... - ( New Window )


haha. the cult of the arm chair GM will repeat their opinions 100 times in ONE WEEK. over and over and over and over on every thread that pops up. I saw DJs arm talent being slandered on a Seafood rissotto thread. Good tune, btw
Shoot, I would love to draft  
SomeFan : 12/6/2023 7:26 pm : link
Kool-Aid McKinstry for his name alone. If he is any player, that name will go down in history.
RE: RE: RE: FSU players are allowed to go first round  
Brown_Hornet : 12/6/2023 8:56 pm : link
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With Jordan Travis hurt?



Trying to muck up another good thread?

Do everyone a favor and give it a rest.




Have a sense of humor loser, it was a joke.
Seemed appropriate to me.
RE: Shoot, I would love to draft  
k2tampa : 12/7/2023 11:32 am : link
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Kool-Aid McKinstry for his name alone. If he is any player, that name will go down in history.


I'd be very careful about taking a diva who makes up a first name for himself. Pretty indicative of a me first attitude.
Tend to think Washington goes QB at #4  
JonC : 12/7/2023 11:33 am : link
if Daniels is truly rising to the level. Howell is a decent QB to develop, but his weak arm presents obstacles. He doesn't do anything at a plus level, so far.
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k2tampa : 12/7/2023 11:34 am : link
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Lol.

Any truth to the rumor the Noles may boycott the Orange Bowl?


They should consider it. If they play they will confirm the committee's decision by getting stomped.
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bw in dc : 12/7/2023 1:08 pm : link
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Lol.

Any truth to the rumor the Noles may boycott the Orange Bowl?



They should consider it. If they play they will confirm the committee's decision by getting stomped.


I think I would support it, actually. They would certainly leave a significant amount of $ on the table for the school and the conference (I believe).

Both teams have a lot of NFL prospects for 2024. I have to imagine there will also be some players not playing for that reason, too...


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