Mike Garafolo: NYG still want Wink to be their DC

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Because they want him to resign on their terms. Wink will not be back next year and the longer this draws out, the more it will hurt Wink from finding another position.

Again, bottom 5 defense and this guy thinks he is the second coming of Buddy Ryan.

You want this hot head to STILL be DC after all this?

obligated to say they aren't looking in order to keep the contract enforced

and good for them.

They are maintaining the fiction that his exit will be entirely on his own accord.

In comment 16357328 Sean said:

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You want this hot head to STILL be DC after all this?

No. They don’t. They just don’t want to fire him.

In comment 16357328 Sean said:

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You want this hot head to STILL be DC after all this?

No, they are taking the high road with the media. It’s winks move.

comes the public posturing

Stranger things have happened. Maybe they just need to sit down and had it out like adults.

Off-seasons are more entertaining than the regular season.

I’m SHOCKED it was Garafolo who got the scoop. /s

Giants are unleashing their full media savvy on Wink right now.

They want to force Martindale’s hand to resign. They don’t want to fire him and pay him his money, and let him choose his next destination. (Philadelphia).

on this thread get it.

As they should.

Wink tried to manipulate a situation where he could get out and get paid, and they're calling his bluff.

I may be dead wrong, but I don't see how this prevents the team from reaching out to other DC prospects right now. What they say publicly is not what they are doing privately.

Geez

Why can this franchise never just be fucking normal?

playing hard ball now. Either shit or get off the pot. You're not getting fired you blowhard!

So hopefully this charade is over soon.

In comment 16357354 I am Ninja said:

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Why can this franchise never just be fucking normal?

It might have something to do with NYC market and the media there. Just a hunch.

Legal battle. They don’t want him to be their DC but if they say anything else he can argue he was effectively fired and try and collect on his contract and go where he wants.

This will get worked out in a separation agreement, will just take some time for all sides to realize they need to give a little to get a little.

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to call his hand. They know he doesn't want to come back here .

crap going on now. We still like you and want you back Wink. The Wilkens Bros were the problem not you. Balls in your court now Wink. You playing or not. If not give me the ball back and go home . It's a forfeit. We win.

In comment 16357368 Ira said:

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It's not "getting more absurd"... this is the same position they were taking yesterday. It's just being reiterated today.

They are calling Wink's bluff.

Garafolo is such a Giants mouthpiece. They don’t want Wink back.

In comment 16357350 Eric from BBI said:

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I may be dead wrong, but I don't see how this prevents the team from reaching out to other DC prospects right now. What they say publicly is not what they are doing privately.

They may have already decided that they have their in house candidate in place and under contract. They may feel no need to rush if Patterson or Henderson is the plan.

He’s not an at will hire . Therefore his resignation doesn’t have to be accepted . The Giants could, for example , allow him to negotiate with other teams with the expectation that they receive 2 #2s in the draft .

My guess: The twins blew Daboll in to Glazer. Either at Wink’s direction or maybe they did it on their own. Daboll is big on keeping these matters in house . This is as it should be. Note that Giant players who air grievances on social media aren’t around for too long.

Daboll fired the twins after he asked them if they were the source . Wink went berserk when he found out . Too bad. He’s not the HC. Go try to find an HC job. So let him know via certified mail that if he doesn’t resume his contractual responsibilities he will be suspended without pay, fined and have his health benefits revoked .

by the Giants now, calling the bluff. good. I would bet behind the scenes they are looking for an new DC, ahem sorry a new "Outside Linebacker Coach" to replace Wilkins, "wink wink" with no pun intended.

Good on the Giants for playing hardball with Wink who definitely seems like the asshole here but there are usually 2 sides to every story.

And also, this situation does not benefit the Giants overall. Things can be perceived or taken the wrong way in league circles, coordinator circles and perhaps this could scare talent away. On top of the fact there is now a ton of legitimate business to conduct this offseason like figuring out the QB, the OL, Barkley/McKinney. A Daboll pissing match with Wink is not high on the list.

Yup. My guess is it would be Henderson if they stay in-house, given his age. The DL coach has also had some health issues.

In comment 16357340 Eric from BBI said:

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comes the public posturing

Correction … here comes the legal posturing. The continuation of a well documented trail showing the Giants are continuing BAU.

If the Winkieleaks are true and can be proven, he’ll be on the defensive .. no pun.

I think this actually pretty entertaining.

If they can't give me an 11-6 season, I'll take the soap opera.

thing that would make this better is if Taylor Swift and Kelce somehow get involved.

What this indicates is the Giants don't have the contractual tools to both fire and prohibit Martindale from going to a division rival. If they had those tools, this would be over.

I suspect they need him to resign for a work prohibition clause to trigger.

They probably feel they have a good case to fire him with cause and withhold the money, but then he would be free to join any team he pleases.

Their leverage is the money. This will come down to the Giants paying his salary in exchange for not joining a rival.

In comment 16357384 Eric from BBI said:

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I think this actually pretty entertaining. If they can't give me an 11-6 season, I'll take the soap opera.

Totally agree. In a season that was over within 5 games, this is far more fun

I'd be shocked if Daboll went with Henderson as the DC.

It seemed odd once when the Bengals hired former Giants DB coach Lou Anarumo for their DC too.

Wink wants his freedom and guaranteed top dollar at next location which this contract offers him

The giants don’t want to pay him top dollar as another team piggybacks on it and they don’t want him going in division.

I think Wink will blink first as long as he gets his money (meaning another team can hire him and the giants have to make up difference).

In comment 16357384 Eric from BBI said:

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I think this actually pretty entertaining. If they can't give me an 11-6 season, I'll take the soap opera.

Hell at this point, if I'm John Mara why not just punch in the nuclear code and say all of you pack your shit.

That would really provide some entertainment.

In comment 16357373 TyreeHelmet said:

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Garafolo is such a Giants mouthpiece. They don’t want Wink back.

Not even close to true.

And they’re saying exactly what they should be saying at this point for the ongoing negotiations with Wink’s agent for his release and for PR.

In comment 16357396 Essex said:

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I think Wink will blink first as long as he gets his money (meaning another team can hire him and the giants have to make up difference).

How is this Wink blinking first? This appears to be exactly what he wants.

Meanwhile I hope Daboll is working diligently on getting a OL and ST coach. Very important steps in this offseason.

In comment 16357350 Eric from BBI said:

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I may be dead wrong, but I don't see how this prevents the team from reaching out to other DC prospects right now. What they say publicly is not what they are doing privately.

Agree. At the very least I expect they are doing their in-house scouting/talks with internal candidates.

nice.

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In comment 16357396 Essex said: Quote: I think Wink will blink first as long as he gets his money (meaning another team can hire him and the giants have to make up difference). How is this Wink blinking first? This appears to be exactly what he wants.

My take is that for Wink it is about money and for the Giants it is about where he is going to go. If I am wrong and its about money for both, it will eventually be solved with some negotiation of a middle ground.

to agree with Joey... Schwartz has been the team's mouthpiece, not Garafolo.

That all said, I assume most of you know this, but teams and agents use the media for their own purposes.

There is a PR/legal battle going on here right now.

People are reaching out to people to form narratives.

and playing a Peter Gabriel song?