Mike Garafolo
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Meanwhile, the #Giants have not begun a search for a new defensive coordinator and don't plan to do so as of right now, sources say. They want Wink Martindale to be their DC unless and until he resigns. So the standoff continues.
My take is that for Wink it is about money and for the Giants it is about where he is going to go. If I am wrong and its about money for both, it will eventually be solved with some negotiation of a middle ground.
I would agree that I don't think the money is the big issue. I don't think they would have a problem paying him to sit on his ass for a year. It's letting him go elsewhere, regardless of where it is, in 2024, without them getting something in return, that they probably have an issue with. That return could be the money or it could be draft compensation.
If they can't give me an 11-6 season, I'll take the soap opera.
yeah seriously. zero issues with this at this juncture. in season they kept it under wraps and actually performed better post rift.
Hahahaha!
Best laugh I've had all week.
What prevents them from looking at and even hiring a new DC? Where does it say that teams can only have 1 DC?
They could always go with the meaningless DC/AssistHC. Yes it would cost $1.5 mill extra.
The Giants seem intent on preventing Martindale from going to a rival, and the only way that seems possible is if Martindale resigns.
The Giants seem intent on preventing Martindale from going to a rival, and the only way that seems possible is if Martindale resigns.
The first press conference at 8:30 on Monday I think bears this out. My take was they wanted to get on top of this because they knew it was going to get nasty, They can fire Wilkins, but they knew they couldn't have Wink without Wilkins. Wilkins from what is reported is Wink's brain and the person who sets up the exoctic blitz packages.
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It's not "getting more absurd"... this is the same position they were taking yesterday. It's just being reiterated today.
They are calling Wink's bluff.
It's actually a smart decision by the Giants. Martindale can't talk to any other team because if any other team speaks with him, they will be tampering.
The Giants seem intent on preventing Martindale from going to a rival, and the only way that seems possible is if Martindale resigns.
This. I’ve worked with Employee Relations enough to know that this is a standard response to this type of situation.
They could always go with the meaningless DC/AssistHC. Yes it would cost $1.5 mill extra.
Nothing precludes them from parking Martindale and hiring someone else to do the job.
But what high pedigree coach is going to break ranks with the fraternity of coaches and be scab over the top of Martindale, or even want to enter a messy situation?
There will be good, clean, easy positions open.
out to other DC prospects right now. What they say publicly is not what they are doing privately.
And we will never know which is how it should be until the new DC is announced
See my write-up on the front page. I've been told that is fairly accurate.
No, both sides don't want that. There is stuff going on and people know more than they are saying.
Probably a Come to Jesus meeting with Mara and the other Parties
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comes the public posturing
Correction … here comes the legal posturing. The continuation of a well documented trail showing the Giants are continuing BAU.
If the Winkieleaks are true and can be proven, he’ll be on the defensive .. no pun.
What does BAU mean?
That's when things would get super juicy.
Enter Taylor Swift, our new senior defensive coordinator.
I agree with Eric that the team is probably using back channels to look into replacements.
At least, this keeps me engaged.
OMG, please let that happen.
It would be like Housewives from East Rutherford NJ
Today either ends in a good faith resolution, or a game of chicken.
Hahaha good one!
I understand what the Giants are doing here, but there are ways that Wink can string things along that could seriously handicap how the Giants move forward. Given that Wink’s Giants career is almost certainly over, they could miss out on the opportunity to interview the better DC candidates.
I guess make sure that Henderson and Patterson are resigned for next year, and one of them can become the DC if no better candidates are left, but yeah, what a shitshow.
Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out ...
Giants are unleashing their full media savvy on Wink right now.
Yeah, and as Eric pointed out yesterday, be very concerned if Pat Hanlon is the one pulling the strings here. My guess (hope?) is that he’s simply carrying out Schoen’s orders.
I think they’d have to do it very privately. I would think that any conversations with a DC candidate could be grounds for termination of Wink’s contract.
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Garafolo is such a Giants mouthpiece. They don’t want Wink back.
Not even close to true.
Wink marches out with his "24" clipboard, while Gmen drill down into the language of the contract
Very laughable.
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Garafolo is such a Giants mouthpiece. They don’t want Wink back.
Not even close to true.
Their lawyers probably told them to pretend to still want Wink.
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I may be dead wrong, but I don't see how this prevents the team from reaching out to other DC prospects right now. What they say publicly is not what they are doing privately.
I think they’d have to do it very privately. I would think that any conversations with a DC candidate could be grounds for termination of Wink’s contract.
There is also a code amongst coaches though. It is a bad look to be interviewing for a job that isn't open. Other than that, nothing is really stopping them.
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It's not "getting more absurd"... this is the same position they were taking yesterday. It's just being reiterated today.
They are calling Wink's bluff.
It's actually a smart decision by the Giants. Martindale can't talk to any other team because if any other team speaks with him, they will be tampering.
But I’m sure teams do this ALL THE TIME. There is no way to know what is going on “behind the scenes” and extremely difficult to prove tampering charges unless it’s so obvious. If it were, there would be a plethora of tampering charges each year.
Trade Wink for Kelce and maybe a DC to be named later? Taylor would look better in Giant blue.
Despite leading a disappointing 26th ranked defense last season, the 60-year-old Martindale is a highly respected coach, and instilled enough fear in his former team, they maneuvered around the prospect of not facing him twice a year.
MG is not an NYG mouthpiece, pay attention.
Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out ...
Hahaha outstanding!!
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In comment 16357368 Ira said:
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It's not "getting more absurd"... this is the same position they were taking yesterday. It's just being reiterated today.
They are calling Wink's bluff.
It's actually a smart decision by the Giants. Martindale can't talk to any other team because if any other team speaks with him, they will be tampering.
True, but there are ways around it. Wink’s agents can talk to other teams about other clients of theirs, and then ask on the sly, “are you in the market for a DC? Asking for a friend.”
Wink marches out with his "24" clipboard, while Gmen drill down into the language of the contract
Very laughable.
They haven't pulled off a queen's gambit if they pay him most or all of his salary and he's the defensive coordinator of his hometown Bengals in two weeks.
I'm not calling a victory quite yet.