RIP Norm Snead

Traded to the Eagles for Sonny Jurgenson. Came to the Giants in the deal that sent Fran Tarkenton to Minnesota

Average plus QB prior to the Giants. One good year with Giants and then very bad.

Rip. One of my dads favorite Giant QBs

Worth posting this about him -

“I remember him as someone who would stop at the (Newport News) Boys Club, when it was on Jefferson Avenue, to play games with the boys and encourage them,” Snead’s brother, Danny, told The Virginia Pilot. “He was more than one-dimensional, more than just a football player, and I think he influenced a lot of people positively off of the football field.”

Once a Giant always a Giant.

Snead was next. Another bit of my childhood gone.

He was a very good qb in his time

He gave me hope for better things post-Tarkenton. Unfortunately it didn't last.
RIP Norm.

I can recall he and the team had a really good year in 1972 and then the bottom fell out the next year. Can't recall the reasons.. probably OL and DL issues. Almost sounds like a pattern with the Giants ... with the absence of the George Young years, there has been a lack of sustainable, long term success / relevancy.

at Yankee Stadium as a kid with my father. I recall how he appeared to be so unathletic compared to previously watching Tark running around. Decent arm however.

I wore #16 in HS because of Norm. Now, he had his flaws, and no one would mistake him for a HOF’er, but he was far better than some of the guys who followed him. RIP Norm.

In comment 16365011 varco said:

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I can recall he and the team had a really good year in 1972 and then the bottom fell out the next year. Can't recall the reasons.. probably OL and DL issues. Almost sounds like a pattern with the Giants ... with the absence of the George Young years, there has been a lack of sustainable, long term success / relevancy.

My dad did not share my enthusiasm for Norm, when I pointed out that at one point he led the NFL in completion %, my dad responded by saying, that’s what happens when you throw 5 yd passes. He wasn’t entirely wrong.

which hindered Sneed a great deal, since he had little mobility and was a pocket passer. When I say awful, it wasn't as bad as what we witnessed this year, as I'd describe the OL this year as one of the most horriffic offensive lines in football history.

In comment 16365124 Since1965 said:

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which hindered Sneed a great deal, since he had little mobility and was a pocket passer. When I say awful, it wasn't as bad as what we witnessed this year, as I'd describe the OL this year as one of the most horriffic offensive lines in football history.

True. My earlier post may seem harsh. He had no help after 72 and was not mobile.

QB for the 1972 team-a one -year flash that featured guys like Vince Clements and Charlie Evans. Legitimate Giants like Bob Tucker and Ron Johnson as well . Still remember the season-ending win in Dallas. The game didn’t mean anything other than to give the Giants a titular winning record . Katkavage was a defensive line coach that year . During that game you could hear him screaming from the sideline, “He’s moving ; He’s moving!” trying to get a false start on Rayfield Wright, I think it was . Ultimately Kat was successful. After ‘72 Jim Files prematurely retired to become a minister . That one hurt .


Norm was the last Giant QB to make the Pro Bowl roster before Phil Simms was named in 1985. He actually had two tours of service . The second did not go very well. His arm had atrophied when I saw him at the Yale Bowl against Jim Plunkett and the Patriots . He was reduced to flaring out helium balls to the flat
Joined at the hip in football QB lore with Sonny Jurgensen . First they played against each other in college . Norm with Wake Forest; Sonny with Duke. Then they were traded for each other : Snead went from the Redskins to the Eagles . Sonny IB reverse .

RIP Norman Snead . Seemed like a completely honest , team-first guy .

In comment 16364989 chiro56 said:

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He was a very good qb in his time

Not really. He was an INT machine.

In his time with the Giants the ran the same East Coast Offense that Tarkington invented out of necessity pretty well. The Giants OL was so bad both QBs had to rely on short passes to throw the ball without getting sacked. Past is prologue.

I don't know, but I'll guess someone who covered the 49ers and Bill Walsh named it the West Coast offense. Walsh kind of perfected it in San Francisco, unless Bill Parcells was on the other sideline, but Walsh started using a short pass instead of/as a run and quick passes offense as OC with Bengals in the early 1970s. Tarkington was doing the same thing in the late 1960s.

As someone said above I feel it every time I read about a player from the Wellington era passing away. Norm has a place in NFL history. Traded for a HOFer and followed a HOFer and he was pretty good doing it. Rest easy Norm.

Some what off topic and no disrespect to Norm Snead...

I fixed this for the person who posted it earlier in this thread.

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with the absence of the Bill Parcells years, there has been a lack of sustainable, long term success / relevancy.

George Young is in the NFL HOF and the Giants Ring of Honor and IMO deservedly so. But without Bill Parcells his record wasn't very good. Like all GMs he was far from perfect. I'm still pissed off about Reggie White, the 87 strike season and how GY refused to or couldn't deal with free agency when the NFL changed its business model.

The Parcells Years
Regular season record 77-49- 1
Playoff Record 8-3 with 2 Super Bowl Championships

The non-Parcells Years
Regular Season 78-90-1
Playoff Record 2-3

George Young with Ray Perkins - 4 years
Regular season record 23-34
Playoff record 1-1

George Young with Bill Parcells - 8 years
Regular season record 77-49- 1
Playoff record 8-3 2 Super Bowls

George Young with Ray Handley - 2 years
Regular season record 14-18
Playoff record 0

George Young with Dan Reeves - 3 years
Regular season record 31-33
Playoff record 1-1

George Young with Jim Fassel - 1 year
Regular season record 10-5-1
Playoff record 0-1

I said Norm Snead was traded for a HOFer and followed a HOFer and he was pretty good doing it. Rest easy Norm.

He was actually traded twice for a HOFer. Sorry about that.

Threw a lot of short passes as I recall and lead the league Pass completions. Memories

His family is from VA. His brother was a lawyer who I hired once. Hisnoffice was fulled with Norm memorabilia, but mostly Redskins stuff.

but to trade Tark for Snead seemed good only on paper. Giants received Snead, WR Bob Grim, FB Vince Clements, and the Vikings' 1972 first round draft pick (Giants took Larry Jacobson) and their second-round draft pick for ‘73 (Giants drafted Brad Van Pelt). Seems like a nice haul, but Tark was special. I was sorry to see him go.

and I can still here the fans chanting... "Sneeeeeeeeed"