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NFT: NHL - at the halfway point

pjcas18 : 1/16/2024 10:11 am
Every team (except OTT and EDM) has reached our passed the 41 game halfway point, so thought let's take some stock in how things look vs what we expected and look at 1st half performances.

First the playoff standings (GD = goal differential):
East
Atlantic:
BOS 43GP 61PTs +30 GD
FLA 43 GP 57PTs +25 GD
TOR 41 GP 50PTs +14 GD

Metro:
NYR 42 GP 56PTs +17 GD
PHI 44 GP 54PTs +10 GD
CAR 43 GP 53PTs +16 GD

East Wild Card
DET 43 GP 49PTs +11 GD
TBL 44 GP 49PTs -3 GD
PIT 42 GP 48PTs +16 GD
NYI 43 GP 48PTs -18GD
NJD 41 GP 47PTs -2GD
WAS 41 GP 46PTs -26GD

West
Central
WIN 42 GP 60PTs +42GD
COL 44 GP 59PTs +26GD
DAL 42 GP 55PTs +26GD

Pacific
VAN 44 GP 62PTs +54GD
LVG 44 GP 55PTs +20GD
LAK 40 GP 50PTs +30GD

West Wild Card
NSH 44 GP 49PTs +1GD
EDM 39 GP 47PTs +21GD
SEA 43 GP 47PTs -3GD
CAL 43 GP 45PTs -1GD
ARI 41 GP 44PTs +3GD
STL 42 GP 44PTs -15GD

not much really that unexpected. but from a standings standpoint I say this:
VAN (positive)
PHI (positive)
ARI (positive)
DET (positive)
MIN (WTF?)
OTT (has a bunch of games in hand on everyone, but I expected more)
BUF (let's me down every year)


Awards:
Calder: Bedard, but being out 4-6 weeks it's in jeopardy. Luke Hughes, Brock Faber, Rossi, Adam Fantilli, and more nipping at his heels

Vezina: Demko or Hellebuyck
Selke: Barkov or Danault
Hart: MacKinnon or Panarin
Norris: Quinn Hughes (has a case for Hart too), Makar not far behind though
Jack Adams: Tocchet or Torts

should be a fun second half
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RE: RE: Sounds like the  
BH28 : 2/16/2024 3:24 pm : link
In comment 16400835 Stu11 said:
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Devils are still working on Martkstrom.

I have watched every start Jake Allen has made the past 3 years (or however long he's been a Hab, what's the point? He does have another year under contract, but is he an upgrade? )

from LeBrun in the Athletic today:



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...Markstrom, Saros and the quirky goalie market

Despite a failed attempt recently at reeling in Jacob Markstrom from Calgary, I’m told the New Jersey Devils will continue to try to find a way to make a deal work with the Flames before March 8. That doesn’t mean they’ll be able to get it done, of course.

My understanding is that there was disagreement in trade talks between the teams over Calgary retaining salary on Markstrom’s contract, which runs for another two and a half years at $6 million per. And tied to that, I think there was disagreement on what the cost, asset-wise, should be just for salary retention if Calgary did agree to it, in addition to the other parts of a proposed trade.

But New Jersey hasn’t closed the door on Markstrom. The Devils will keep trying. And in the meantime, they have also kicked tires on the likes of Juuse Saros, John Gibson and Jake Allen, among other goalies....




Yeah I think Markstrom is the one they've zeroed in on. I didn't realize he had 2 more years after this left on his contract though. Thats a pretty big gulp for a 34 year old at 6 mill per. I agree on Allen, he's no big upgrade at all. Gibson I've really soured on. ton of $ left and he's constantly getting injured this year. He hasn't finished his last 2 starts. I'd almost look at him as a negative assett at this point. Meanwhile Daws has been great the past 3 games, especially last night. I'm almost ready to just go with him and see how it goes and reassess in the summer.


I think I am with you Stu. This save by Daws yesterday was bananas:
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Bittman was on  
JayBinQueens : 2/16/2024 5:46 pm : link
Local espn radio.

Was asked about the guys from Team Canada and if they should be operating under innocent until proven guilty. He sidestepped the question, obviously, but said something to the extent that if you had the information he did that wouldn't be an option
Makar had a response  
pjcas18 : 2/16/2024 6:13 pm : link
when he was questioned by a reporter about it.

Most of us know what he meant, but the way he said it drew ire:

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...“It’s tough. I’ve been told not to comment on that ongoing investigation. I’ve been straightforward from the start. I wasn’t there,” Makar said. "It was a very fortunate bounce to not obviously be a part of something like that. I’m just going to leave it to the people who are handling the work right now. I can’t stress enough that I wasn’t part of that"....


So a lot of the media pounced on it and said seriously, a "fortunate bounce" prevented him from committing a rape/sexual assault.

But I think he was just saying not being at the event meant he didn't have to defend himself or prove innocence.
It appears the Devils will open next season in Prague vs The Sabres  
Stu11 : 2/16/2024 6:16 pm : link
News: According to David Pagnotta of the Fourth Period, the #NJDevils    and Buffalo Sabres will faceoff in Prague for two games to begin the 2024-25 regular season.
RE: Makar had a response  
Stu11 : 2/16/2024 6:20 pm : link
In comment 16401042 pjcas18 said:
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when he was questioned by a reporter about it.

Most of us know what he meant, but the way he said it drew ire:



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...“It’s tough. I’ve been told not to comment on that ongoing investigation. I’ve been straightforward from the start. I wasn’t there,” Makar said. "It was a very fortunate bounce to not obviously be a part of something like that. I’m just going to leave it to the people who are handling the work right now. I can’t stress enough that I wasn’t part of that"....



So a lot of the media pounced on it and said seriously, a "fortunate bounce" prevented him from committing a rape/sexual assault.

But I think he was just saying not being at the event meant he didn't have to defend himself or prove innocence.

PJ come on he's an adult. That was a very poor choice of words on his part.
RE: RE: Makar had a response  
pjcas18 : 2/16/2024 6:23 pm : link
In comment 16401049 Stu11 said:
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when he was questioned by a reporter about it.

Most of us know what he meant, but the way he said it drew ire:



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...“It’s tough. I’ve been told not to comment on that ongoing investigation. I’ve been straightforward from the start. I wasn’t there,” Makar said. "It was a very fortunate bounce to not obviously be a part of something like that. I’m just going to leave it to the people who are handling the work right now. I can’t stress enough that I wasn’t part of that"....



So a lot of the media pounced on it and said seriously, a "fortunate bounce" prevented him from committing a rape/sexual assault.

But I think he was just saying not being at the event meant he didn't have to defend himself or prove innocence.


PJ come on he's an adult. That was a very poor choice of words on his part.


Definitely poor choice of words by him, but I don't think he was saying literally if he decided to go to the gala with his teammates he would have raped a woman, so lucky bounce for him. But I agree it was an awful response.
Auston Matthews  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2024 8:26 pm : link
is on absolute fire.

2 more goals tonight (still in the 2nd period).

He gets overlooked with the games greats because his teams have had some famous failures, but not many can shoot it like Matthews in the league. He can release from so many angles it's hard for goalies to read. Plus he's a big dude even if he doesn't play a heavy game (kind of like Kreider) so he can get some greasy goals since he's hard to move in front of the net.

He has consistently scored his whole career.
Just got the hat trick  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2024 8:30 pm : link
still in the 2nd period.

He has 48 goals in 52 games (so far).

He has led the league in 5v5 goals 4 times (including as a 19 year old rookie) and does this year too.
Injury data  
pjcas18 : 2/18/2024 2:27 pm : link
Habs brought over the NYR trainer this year. MTL in 2022-2023 had record injuries (MGL) and NYR had record health. Of course nothing changed really. MTL still among most injured, NYR among healthiest.

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322 VGK
292 SJS
272 MTL
265 CHI
222 TOR
201 ANA
198 WSH
196 VAN
185 COL
179 CBJ
177 NJD
174 TBL
162 ARI
161 BUF
160 MIN
150 DET
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Raw MGL totals through 17 February (2/2)

139 NYI
136 CGY
134 PIT
127 WPG
121 SEA
117 OTT
107 LAK
105 FLA
97 CAR
93 NYR
92 BOS
88 PHI
75 NSH
50 EDM
41 DAL
29 STL
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I'm calling it now: The Blues won't end up with fewer than 32 MGL for the season


Jagr  
pjcas18 : 2/18/2024 6:37 pm : link
jersey retirement in PIT, looks like he could still play at 52.

not even joking.
Latest prospect pool rankings  
pjcas18 : 2/18/2024 8:09 pm : link
from Wheeler (Athletic).

I think we left off with NYR at 19.

18. VAN
17. LAK
16. WIN
15. CAL
14. STL
13. CAR

link below for all the write-ups (behind the Athletic paywall)


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Latest prospect rankings  
pjcas18 : 2/20/2024 8:14 am : link
SEA 12
MIN 11 (and this is with graduating Faber and Rossi - good young core in MIN)

Athletic link below

NHL Prospect Pool Rankings - ( New Window )
Habs  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2024 10:29 am : link
#10. They have a glut of D. not a bad thing to have but all of the below are 23 or under.

Kaiden Guhle
Arber Xhekaj
Jordan Harris
Jayden Struble
Justin Barron
Lane Hutson
Logan Mailloux
David Reinbacher
Adam Engstrom
William Trudeau


and all project to top 6 easily and are either in MTL, Laval (AHL), or playing pro (except Lane Hutson who is their #1 prospect)
RE: Jagr  
Route 9 : 2/22/2024 1:30 am : link
In comment 16402140 pjcas18 said:
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jersey retirement in PIT, looks like he could still play at 52.

not even joking.


Silly question. What makes hockey players able to play at an old age in comparison to other sports?

Chris Chelios was like 50 when he finally stopped playing. What was the difference in his game and what could someone like him "get away" with doing in the sport of hockey, playing at such an ... Older age?
RE: RE: Jagr  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/22/2024 6:26 am : link
In comment 16404977 Route 9 said:
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jersey retirement in PIT, looks like he could still play at 52.

not even joking.



Silly question. What makes hockey players able to play at an old age in comparison to other sports?

Chris Chelios was like 50 when he finally stopped playing. What was the difference in his game and what could someone like him "get away" with doing in the sport of hockey, playing at such an ... Older age?


They’re tougher mentally lol. Good question Have a friend who played 14 years in the NHL. . Dude is different breed. I also think hockey teams have a place for players as they age as they run multiple lines And TBH. There always outliers.
RE: RE: Jagr  
pjcas18 : 2/22/2024 7:43 am : link
In comment 16404977 Route 9 said:
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jersey retirement in PIT, looks like he could still play at 52.

not even joking.



Silly question. What makes hockey players able to play at an old age in comparison to other sports?

Chris Chelios was like 50 when he finally stopped playing. What was the difference in his game and what could someone like him "get away" with doing in the sport of hockey, playing at such an ... Older age?


there is a 90 year old guy who plays beer league in the town next to me (Natick, MA). His 70 year old son is in the league too. if anyone even accidentally goes near the older guy they get their face caved in, lol. It's funny to see him play because in his equipment and with his helmet on (no cage) you can tell he's old, but not 90. Obviously not NHL but still pretty impressive to compete with men 30/40 years old when you're half a century (or more) older.

One of my beer league teammates when we were younger, he was probably 40 years old (he's older than me) got a contract with the FHL Delaware Federals who needed a body to play some minutes in a game on the Cape vs the Cape Cod Blue Fins. He played two games. Who gives a shit it's pro and he made his debut at 40 (he had 2 PIMs and was - 6 in the two games). He played college at Union. We call him squirrel because he was faster than everyone and people chased him around the ice like dogs chasing a squirrel.

Anyway, wish I knew. Love of the game?
Auston  
pjcas18 : 2/22/2024 8:24 am : link
Matthews keeps up his 70+ goal pace.

with 2 more last night he becomes the fastest US born player to 50 goals.

50 goals in 54 games.

He broke his own record of 62 games (tied with Kevin Stevens)
RE: Auston  
Stu11 : 2/22/2024 8:38 am : link
In comment 16405021 pjcas18 said:
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Matthews keeps up his 70+ goal pace.

with 2 more last night he becomes the fastest US born player to 50 goals.

50 goals in 54 games.

He broke his own record of 62 games (tied with Kevin Stevens)

My son and I were joking about this last night. He gets all the info you are talking about on twitter/YouTube. Like it's really impressive and I was telling him about how big Mike Bossy's chase was to get 50 in 50 when I was a kid and how dramatic it was to him getting 2 in the 3rd period of game 50. Then like the next year Gretzky did it in 38 games. We joked Gretzky was some different breed of hockey human being. I mean it's a great season to get 100 points and Gretzky got over 200 4 times in 5 seasons(196 the 5th one) its just insane. 11 seasons in a row with over 100 assists alone. I watched it and I still don't believe what I saw.
I didn't realize Matthews almost had 50 in 50  
Greg from LI : 2/22/2024 8:57 am : link
Been a long time since anyone did that. I think Brett Hull was the last one.

On the subject of goals...what does everyone think of Ovi's chances of breaking the record now? He's finally having a season where his numbers, thus far at least, are declining noticeably. If he doesn't miss any more games this season, he's on pace for 24 goals this year. That would put him at 846, 48 behind Gretzky. Is he going to fall off a cliff over the next couple of years or can he keep chugging along at a 20ish per season pace for a few more years?
RE: I didn't realize Matthews almost had 50 in 50  
Route 9 : 2/22/2024 12:35 pm : link
In comment 16405042 Greg from LI said:
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Been a long time since anyone did that. I think Brett Hull was the last one.

On the subject of goals...what does everyone think of Ovi's chances of breaking the record now? He's finally having a season where his numbers, thus far at least, are declining noticeably. If he doesn't miss any more games this season, he's on pace for 24 goals this year. That would put him at 846, 48 behind Gretzky. Is he going to fall off a cliff over the next couple of years or can he keep chugging along at a 20ish per season pace for a few more years?


He looks like a future New York Ranger already
I think Ovi  
pjcas18 : 2/22/2024 12:39 pm : link
will stick it out until he breaks the record even if he limps along to do it.

he began the season slowly but I think had a 6 or 7 game goal streak recently.
Yeah Ovi got a couple vs the Devils the other night  
Stu11 : 2/22/2024 1:58 pm : link
I think he has something like 7 in his last 8 games. Who knows goal scoring can be luck at times, getting the right bounces. I think next year is the key. If he declines any more it will be tough but if he can get 20-25 he'll stick it out.
BOS V EDM..  
BillKo : 2/22/2024 2:47 pm : link
...last night was very entertaining.

Edmonton needs a goaltender in the worst way, IMO.

Sure, they might win the Cup but the odds are against it with their current tending.

I could see Ulmark getting sent there in the offseason from BOS.

I can't believe this  
Jay on the Island : 2/23/2024 9:58 am : link
Last night post game Lindy Ruff blamed the media for the teams struggling power play causing "excess pressure" on the players. If he isn't fired soon then ownership needs to take seriously consider moving on from Fitzgerald also. The guy has blamed everyone but himself for the teams pitiful performance this season.

When Brunette left to become HC of Nashville I said that I was worried that much of the Devils success was because of him not Ruff last season. Now it's becoming more obvious that I was right.

RE: BOS V EDM..  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2024 10:01 am : link
In comment 16405469 BillKo said:
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...last night was very entertaining.

Edmonton needs a goaltender in the worst way, IMO.

Sure, they might win the Cup but the odds are against it with their current tending.

I could see Ulmark getting sent there in the offseason from BOS.


I have been saying this for most of McDavid's tenure. the fact they haven't gotten him a goalie is criminal.

it's at least McDavid's 3rd GM and astonishingly he's still *just* 27 years old.
RE: I can't believe this  
Stu11 : 2/23/2024 11:02 am : link
In comment 16405950 Jay on the Island said:
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Last night post game Lindy Ruff blamed the media for the teams struggling power play causing "excess pressure" on the players. If he isn't fired soon then ownership needs to take seriously consider moving on from Fitzgerald also. The guy has blamed everyone but himself for the teams pitiful performance this season.

When Brunette left to become HC of Nashville I said that I was worried that much of the Devils success was because of him not Ruff last season. Now it's becoming more obvious that I was right.

Jay it's been a long time, if ever since I've seen a coach do as poor of a job as Ruff has this season. The lineups he puts out there night in night out defy logic. It's like a toddler threw darts at a dartboard or something. Thankfully I spent the day in the city yesterday and took in a Broadway show with the wife last night and missed that embarrassment. Timo on the 3rd line and little to no PP time for weeks now? Jack on the wing? Starting Smith & Luke together vs Washington when the metrics have them as as the 20th worst pairing in the league when put together, and of course they're on the ice for like 3 goals including a tap in 30 seconds into the game. I agree I generally have no beef with Fitz but this season has been a complete debacle from top to bottom. I wouldn't have an issue with any of them being fired over this. First that let Ruff hide behind the injuries, well now everyone is back besides Dougie and the past 2 games have been completely embarrassing. I don't see how a coach survives that.
Two weeks  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2024 11:12 am : link
to the trade deadline (3/8)

separation starting to happen to determine sellers and buyers.

Updated  
pjcas18 : 2/24/2024 6:18 pm : link
MGL, EDM really has no excuse. it's the goalie.

......  
Route 9 : 2/25/2024 3:07 am : link
Edmonton walloped again
Blackhawks  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 10:13 am : link
have a good chance at back to back #1 picks.

Bedard and Celebrini would go a long way to rebuilding a franchise.

I hope they don't, but it's starting to seem like that is the most likely outcome.
Calgary  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 11:11 am : link
still trying to extend Hanifin, but he seems intent on playing in the US.

If he didn't sign the 8-year deal they offered in September, no clue why they think he'd sign it now.

he bet on himself and it seems like he won.

He already has the most goals in his career and he has had a good year. Probably wind up close to his career high in points (or exceed it).

Does Calgary play chicken and risk him walking in FA or do they trade him?

Calgary in WC contention (just 3 points back of NSH with a lot to play), but I think they should be sellers.

RE: Calgary  
Jay on the Island : 2/25/2024 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16407529 pjcas18 said:
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still trying to extend Hanifin, but he seems intent on playing in the US.

If he didn't sign the 8-year deal they offered in September, no clue why they think he'd sign it now.

he bet on himself and it seems like he won.

He already has the most goals in his career and he has had a good year. Probably wind up close to his career high in points (or exceed it).

Does Calgary play chicken and risk him walking in FA or do they trade him?

Calgary in WC contention (just 3 points back of NSH with a lot to play), but I think they should be sellers.

If they are wise they would trade him. He will leave in free agency and they will receive nothing. Even if they do make the playoffs they won't get far.
RE: Calgary  
BrettNYG10 : 2/25/2024 3:01 pm : link
In comment 16407529 pjcas18 said:
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still trying to extend Hanifin, but he seems intent on playing in the US.

If he didn't sign the 8-year deal they offered in September, no clue why they think he'd sign it now.

he bet on himself and it seems like he won.

He already has the most goals in his career and he has had a good year. Probably wind up close to his career high in points (or exceed it).

Does Calgary play chicken and risk him walking in FA or do they trade him?

Calgary in WC contention (just 3 points back of NSH with a lot to play), but I think they should be sellers.


Separate from your post, but what a deal that Tkachuk trade turned into. I liked it from FL's perspective, mostly due to Tkachuk's style and age vs. Huberdeau, but never thought it would be this good for FL and this bad for CAL.
RE: RE: Calgary  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16407668 BrettNYG10 said:
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still trying to extend Hanifin, but he seems intent on playing in the US.

If he didn't sign the 8-year deal they offered in September, no clue why they think he'd sign it now.

he bet on himself and it seems like he won.

He already has the most goals in his career and he has had a good year. Probably wind up close to his career high in points (or exceed it).

Does Calgary play chicken and risk him walking in FA or do they trade him?

Calgary in WC contention (just 3 points back of NSH with a lot to play), but I think they should be sellers.




Separate from your post, but what a deal that Tkachuk trade turned into. I liked it from FL's perspective, mostly due to Tkachuk's style and age vs. Huberdeau, but never thought it would be this good for FL and this bad for CAL.


I think the big thing is it should never have got to that point. Cost Treliving his job. You lose Gaudreau and Tkachuck and the return (for Gaudreau was nothing) and Tkachuk underwhelms you damage your franchise.

I like Weegar but Huberdeau has done nothing but make Sasha Barkov look better, lol.


Didn't expect PIT and OTT to be  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 3:16 pm : link
healthy and bad teams.

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BrettNYG10 : 2/25/2024 3:16 pm : link
My view is you can't really half ass and try and thread the needle that Calgary did. When you lose a top five/ten player, just tear down. Tkachuk should have fetched a haul of prospects and picks, not veterans.
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 3:19 pm : link
In comment 16407677 BrettNYG10 said:
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My view is you can't really half ass and try and thread the needle that Calgary did. When you lose a top five/ten player, just tear down. Tkachuk should have fetched a haul of prospects and picks, not veterans.


especially when they lost Gaudreau in the same off-season.

That was 219 points between the two of them removed from your roster.

it was replaced the next season with 86 points.

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BrettNYG10 : 2/25/2024 3:39 pm : link
Yeah, exactly.

Also, forgot the inverse: you have an opportunity to get a Matthew Tkachuk, you do it.
Another uninspiring loss for the devils. Tampa is now 7 points clear.  
BH28 : 2/25/2024 3:41 pm : link
Lost the second game of back to back again, I don't think they've won one all year. About to hit the road for three games on the West coast. At this point, if they don't come away with at least 4 points (probably need 6), they are toast.

I'll be at the Devils-Sharks game on Tuesday, they better not get swept by the sharks this year.

RE: Another uninspiring loss for the devils. Tampa is now 7 points clear.  
Jay on the Island : 2/25/2024 3:47 pm : link
In comment 16407687 BH28 said:
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Lost the second game of back to back again, I don't think they've won one all year. About to hit the road for three games on the West coast. At this point, if they don't come away with at least 4 points (probably need 6), they are toast.

I'll be at the Devils-Sharks game on Tuesday, they better not get swept by the sharks this year.

Damn media creating "excess pressure" on the team again.
Granato  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 3:55 pm : link
just asked Sullivan before the Pens game about coaching the 2026 Olympic team. Sully didn't say he had been asked, but he was slated to be the HC in 2022 before they pulled the NHL from the Olympics, but reminded me he was the assistant in the Turin Olympics in 2006 when Lavy was the head coach. Between those two US is in good hands.

Here is a graphic about a possible US roster.

They have my Hughes/Tkachuck line, but not Luke Hughes (he looks like an alternate). 2026 is a couple years away....

Friedman  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 4:03 pm : link
says Jarry and Guentzel could be moved (per Biz in between periods)
I'm such a die-hard fan and love watching the games  
Stu11 : 2/25/2024 4:06 pm : link
And I can't believe I'm saying this but I have no interest watching the next few. Today was an embarrassment. Kucherov, Point,and Stamkos skated circles around them all day. This game easily could have been 8-1. The system is so broken right now I don't even know how you fix it. Firing Lindy would be months late at this point. Fitz has basically been on vacation since the summer. Hasn't lifted a finger to try and change what is going on. Of course we need a forward body today and up from the minors comes up you guessed it another career AHL'er Brian Halonen! Why bring up a 1st pick with a little fire and physicality like Stillman? Nahhhh lets sleepwalk through another must win game. Should have lost yesterday too to Montreal. They outplayed us. Jack is an issue too. He misses too much time, then when he comes back like clockwork is awful for a few weeks before he gets going. He looks lost out there right now.
Stu I get it  
Jay on the Island : 2/25/2024 4:24 pm : link
I agree that they should have brought up Stillman or even Graeme Clarke but they went with Halonen. It's still better than several of the AHL garbage they called up earlier as Halonen has been red hot in the AHL.

It is obvious that Fitzgerald is going to stick with Ruff all season. Let's face it the season is over they aren't going to go on a magical run with this disaster running the team. If Ruff is brought back then ownership needs to step in and fire Fitzgerald as well.
At this point  
Jay on the Island : 2/25/2024 4:25 pm : link
I would trade Toffoli and try to move Palat and his contract even if it means retaining part of his salary this year.
I loved Toffoli  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 4:37 pm : link
on MTL. Seemed like all the players did too.

I bet there would be a good market for him.
Devils are done, IMO  
PetesHereNow : 2/25/2024 4:38 pm : link
Yes it was a back to back but it's the team right ahead of you in the wild card and they got outskated and outworked throughout. TBL was on a back to back too but didn't seem to affect them.

RE: I loved Toffoli  
Jay on the Island : 2/25/2024 4:43 pm : link
In comment 16407722 pjcas18 said:
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on MTL. Seemed like all the players did too.

I bet there would be a good market for him.

I want him to stay and I am sure the Devils do but they simply won't have the cap space to re-sign him unless they can move Palat which I doubt anyone would take the 3 years at $6 AAV left on his contract.
Biz  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2024 4:45 pm : link
also said in between periods that discussions were pretty serious prior to the season for Hellebuyck to NJD, but broke down.

I don't know who/how the talks broke down or that goalie would have made all the difference in NJ, but when you get that chance at a goalie of that caliber on an expected contender you make it happen.
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Jay on the Island : 2/25/2024 4:45 pm : link
In comment 16407724 PetesHereNow said:
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Yes it was a back to back but it's the team right ahead of you in the wild card and they got outskated and outworked throughout. TBL was on a back to back too but didn't seem to affect them.

They sure are and it's better for the future if they don't make the playoffs because it will ensure that they fire Ruff and bring in a better coach. If they somehow made the playoffs Fitzgerald could try to use the injuries as an excuse for them losing in the first round as the reason why they didn't go on a run. The truth is this team is nearly back to full strength and they look just as bad.
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